Levant crisis - III

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Austin » 03 May 2018 11:53

Yes they have their own agenda in syria each his own , You should not forget that Israel and Russia are friendly contries and both dont have hostilities towards each other like Iran/Israel does , so its a balancing act

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Austin » 03 May 2018 14:02

Y. Kanan wrote:They all look so terribly vulnerable. The US or Israel could wipe out that concentration of Russian air power so easily... the only thing stopping them is the fear of Russian nuclear retaliation. And the Russians are losing even that small advantage, with increasingly large and brazen attacks coming from the US and Isreal, with France and Britain now joining in as well. And of course there is still Turkey. Things are not looking good for Russia at this point. It has been demonstrated that not only will Russia let their allies be bombed, but they will even allow their own soldiers to be openly attacked and killed by US forces, something unprecedented that did not happen even during the Cold War. If the other side believes Russia won't go nuclear over Syria, they will keep pushing and ultimately get their war. At that point Russia loses, period. And badly. It's silly for the Russophiles here to even debate that, and deep down you all know it. Their tech just isn't that good and even if it were, they are vastly outnumbered.


Well if US or coilation wants to bomb Russian bases then they have enough airpower to over come Russian Airdefence if not in 1st then 2nd or 3rd or 4th but thats a different story altogether that would be an act of war with consequences there off .

Right now Russia has Allies in Iraq , Iran ( Shiah majority country ) and an unpredictable Turkey but for now it works in Russia favour , It has SAA land troops and bases in Syria ........ Syria has been won by Russia and its allies from Jaws of Certain Defeat .......make no mistake its no mean achievement , In hind sight it is easy to over look this.

During start of war , many NATO countries and US allies would not even allow Russian Merchant ship to get birthed on their port as it was carrying weapons for Syria ....Russian merchant ship was hounded till Russian Navy came to the picture.

Israel attacks are tactical hits it will hurt the Irans but it wont change the outcome of the conflict as it is , it is spectular to watch but it ends there.

They need to figure out a way on ground I mean the Iranians how to reduce such losses by preventing intel leaks and not storing weapons at one places etc ....This is a Major Win for Israel Intel rather than its Air Power its based on good ground Intel from Israel

The way things are going, Russia's only real hope is convincing the US public that war with Russia means nuclear annihilation at home. The public has to believe nuclear war is a real danger, that they and their families could perish or see their entire way of life destroyed. The Russians have to make Americans believe that, because trying to win over the Americans' hearts and minds has failed. There have been only a few voices crying out against the globalist\warmonger crowd, and none of them has gained any traction beyond the fringes of American politics. The globalists control the entire US (and western) mainstream media and have successfully downplayed the risk to the American public, to the point where most Americans would let this war happen without even realizing what they're getting into.


Once you start with Nuclear Trump card there may not be a chance to roll back , So short of Full scale Conventional War the nuclear detterence wont come into effect ...... And if that does come no one will be alive to type the victors and loosers on BRF

Let the globalist control what they can , Lies have no Feet it can watch as much long and Russian are a very self sufficient country in every matter of being and rich in natural resources ....it really does not have to worry about US , France or UK

It is also a Policy Fault of Putin to put too much resources and time in convincing the west , He should shift his policy from being EU centric to Asia Centric , China , India are the real powers .....followed by many other South East asian country ....The growth lies in these countries in Asia and Resources will be needed in these countries .........The EU is dying and eventually it will break up barring few nations like Germany in there they have no future.

They Debt to GDP ratio of Europen Countries and of US and their Big Bubble Stock Market are their nemisis that is starring at them....That is their bigger problem and as days weeks months years go by it just gets bigger.
IMO the Russians should be trying to convince the American public just how crazy they are, even if its an exaggeration. Put the nuclear forces on standby, give all the appearances of being ready to launch at a moment's notice. Do it in a very public fashion. The only thing that will stop the Western coalition and their Saudi\Jew allies, will be public outcry. If the US public demands an end to this intervention, the Israeli public will follow, and of course at that point Saudi bloc and Turkey would fall in line as well. As for the British and French public, they're already quite wary of this adventure; they don't want a war and if their leaders see America waiver, they'll stand down immediately.


Putin strategy in Syria was not really to help the Shiah or Syrian but was a break out strategy to come out of NATO encirclement they have mentioned that even in their Military Doctrine , The rest is a side story with added benefits , Its good for their Military to get real war practise the first after SU Afghanistan debacle and test new weapons , fix the problems etc plus Let Shiah country like Iraq and IRan know that there would be some one in the region that can be relied upon since US has put both Iran and Iraq at the slaughter table of Saudi lead OPEN Sunni group.

Who ever is the Russian leader Putin or any one after him , Needs to build alliance with China and India two major powers , Strengthn CSTO its formal milirary alliance and SCO which is psedo alliance .....Dump USD in Trade to the extent possible and start using just Euro and Renminbi and if India gains entry into SDR then use Rupee .....Stop being a Sucker at EU and realise there is a world beyond EU and look to Asia and its growing economies.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Austin » 03 May 2018 14:15

The Ministry of Defense named the possible cause of the crash of Su-30SM in Syria
Vedomosti03-May- 11 11:39
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According to preliminary data, the reason for the crash of the Russian Su-30SM fighter in Syria could be a bird caught in the engine. This was reported by the Russian Defense Ministry, RIA Novosti reports . The fire impact on the plane was not, stressed the department.

The Su-30SM fighter crashed in the morning on Thursday, May 3. The catastrophe occurred shortly after the take - off of Su-30SM from the Russian airbase "Khmeimim", when the ship was already above the water area of ​​the Mediterranean Sea. As a result of the crash, both pilots were killed, the Defense Ministry reported.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 03 May 2018 14:27

rumour that with hymenim getting overcrowded, a second base ie al shayrat of 56 tomahawk fame might be taken over or partially used.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Austin » 03 May 2018 14:38

How come the pilot did not eject both pilots getting killed is sad , must be Su-30SM from Naval Flanker of Russian Navy

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 03 May 2018 16:49

yarmouk camp front

blue part nusra front will go to Idlib. black part ISIS is holding on to 80% behind the rubble and fighting hard

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby UlanBatori » 03 May 2018 17:21

Yes, the bird strike sounds a bit suspicious. An AAM is also a "bird".

israel is hoping the iranians launch an attack from syria on israel which will give nato+idf the perfect excuse to hammer them there, plus tear up the iran nuclear deal and impose sanctions on iran at the minimum. this is the same way pakistan keeps taunting india with terror strikes

Hence the Russian emphasis on SAMs. So far the ISISraelis have avoided having a plane crash inside Syria, and the Syrians are getting a bit better at hitting missiles.

If Russia brings in laser weapons it might change the equation considerably.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 03 May 2018 18:47

yarmouk camp isis bastion cleaved in half. russians helping Syaf with targeted airstrikes and drone recon
its a much harder area to fight than east ghouta as its all urban with no farmlands and open areas to creep into
syrians trying to spread the defences thin by opening multiple new attack fronts

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 03 May 2018 18:49

meantime the long time northern homs pocket has been asked to either surrender or face the tiger forces who have reached onsite.
various factions are still trying to show some defiance there

if that is cleared out, the scene might finally shift to western tracts of Idlib - the heartland of the nusra front and mere 10 mins flying time from hymenim

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 03 May 2018 18:53

israeli a/c has only rarely like this f15 attack and a f16 attack near T4 (where one was hit by a SAM and crashed inside israel killing the pilot) intruded over syrian airspace

mostly they take advantage of 2 things

the rugged mountains of lebanon make their movement hard to track by syrian radars
their long range missiles can be launched from over lebanon which has no AF and no SAM to prevent such overflights
damascus is quite close to the golan heights de facto border

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Philip » 03 May 2018 20:10

Tragic about the SU.Bird strike? If it was and the engine exploded damaging the second, which is located some distance away too, it is arguably plausible, unless theoretically the exploding engine damaged the wing/ control surfaces making it impossible to sustain flight.

The inability of the pilots to eject is puzzling, even if it was a missile strike or mechanical failure.Where the pilots disorientated due to the problem?
It could've been flying v.low over the sea and the "problem " caused the aircraft to hit the water before there was any chance of ejection.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 03 May 2018 20:27

french general...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Maysalun

Gouraud reportedly went to the tomb of Saladin, kicked it, and said:[33]

Awake, Saladin. We have returned. My presence here consecrates the victory of the Cross over the Crescent.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Austin » 03 May 2018 21:23

'Chemical Attack' Provocation With US Participation Planned in Syria - Source

https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/2018 ... ovocation/

BEIRUT (Sputnik) - The tensions in the country have been running high since April, when media accused Damascus of carrying out a chemical attack in the city of Douma, with US launching missile strikes against Syria without waiting for the end of an investigation into the case.

"US security services are planning provocations with the use of prohibited substances in Syria. The operation is led by a former militant of the Islamic State *[Daesh], Mishan Idris Hamash. The aim is to stage a chemical attack against civilians to be further spread in the media," the source told Sputnik.

According to the source, the preparations began on April 23. The civilians are being shipped to a territory near Jafra oil field to participate in a staged filming of an attack scene.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby UlanBatori » 05 May 2018 22:28

DT has put aid to White Helmets on hold: $200M program for Deep State under review. What do u experts make of this? Glimmer of wisdom? Getting bolder?

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 06 May 2018 12:32

Mccain has told friends per CNN he wants obama and bush at his funeral but not Trump. clearly shows which way the deep state warmongers and chaos churners found traction


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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Y. Kanan » 06 May 2018 13:54

Iraqi Air Force bombing ISIS positions in Syria
https://www.yahoo.com/news/iraqi-air-st ... 30587.html

Interesting. Iraqi govt deliberately trying to put US in a more awkward position? How long before the US starts bombing their Iraqi allies again? By doing unilateral air strikes in Syria, Iraq is openly supporting the Syrian regime by helping them kill US/Israeli proxies, while Syria gets bombed for doing the same thing.

Maybe the Iraqi govt is finally starting to toughen up.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby IndraD » 06 May 2018 18:25

Israel’s Netanyahu To Attend Victory Day Parade, Meet Putin https://www.rferl.org/a/israel-netanyah ... 10897.html

Netanyahu: Iran Must Be Stopped, Even if It Means Conflict – and Better Sooner Than Later https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/net ... -1.6055907

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Philip » 06 May 2018 18:57

Bibi N wants to stop Ru guaranteeing mil.support to Iran for any attack from Israel and the US.Even the Brits are warning against this.This will only spur Iran to restart clandestine efforts to be able to produce a N-8device.
I doubt Putin will agree to any move weakening Ru- Iranian mil cooperation which has been essential for defeating ISIS on the ground.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Y. Kanan » 07 May 2018 12:19

Russia might actually be ok with Iran getting bombed, as long as it doesn't threaten the Russian position in Syria. After all, if Iran is attacked, they do have the ability to close the Straight of Hormuz (at least temporarily), and oil prices will spike for a good year or so, probably longer. This would help the Russian economy.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby IndraD » 07 May 2018 14:49

Israel is drum beating about an impending attack by Iran from Sy soil, they seem to be itching for a war with Iran. Possibly only if they have reached an agreement with local players.
ISRAEL: IDF preparing for Iranian missile attack on northern border in retaliation of Israeli air strikes on bases in Syria, local media report -

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby IndraD » 07 May 2018 14:50

https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/2018 ... shortening
Israel Vows to 'Eliminate' Assad if He Keeps Letting Iran Operate From Syria

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby IndraD » 07 May 2018 14:54

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A picture taken on March 9, 2018 along a highway in the southern Lebanese coastal city of Tyre shows an electoral billboard for Russian President Vladimir Putin wearing sunglasses with lettering in Russian reading "18 March 2018," for the Russian diaspora in the city to vote in the election scheduled on the same date.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Philip » 07 May 2018 15:12

The statements from the govt. of Bibi N,who is much criticised by his own ex-intel heads,cannot be taken as mere rhetoric,Paki style.Bibi N is a man of his word and the announced threat to hit Assad by his minister has to be taken seriously.The entire Levant/ME is sitting on a powder keg whose fuse was lit a long time ago. Russia rushing to the aid of Assad to protect its own interests in the region by a bold Putin,has put a spoke in the wheels not only of the Israelis but also the Sunni ME and the US,who wanted not just regime change in Syria but its conquest. Drawing Russia more nd more into the equation is a huge mistake for both the West and Israel. It should do its utmost to limit Russian presence on the ground .Assad is a "known devil". Instead of attempting to replace him,it would be far wiser to accommodate him in a security agreement which would protect Israel's interests better rather than risk a military confrontation with Russia should there be an attempt on eliminating him.

The there is the huge Q of Iran. It would be an absolute fool who would engage in mil. conflict with Iran,which also has support from Russia.The Europeans well know it and even the Yanqui poodle Britain is so alarmed that it is sending its maverick For. Sec. "Bozza",aka Boris Johnson,to try and dissuade Trump from dumping the excruciatingly negotiated N-deal with Iran that took years.

https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/2018 ... sad-syria/
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Israel Vows to 'Eliminate' Assad if He Keeps Letting Iran Operate From Syria © AFP 2018 / LOUAI BESHARA
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Israel has repeatedly voiced concern over alleged Iranian military presence in Syria and claimed that the Islamic Republic has been building a base in the country, while Tehran has strongly refuted the accusations. However, Iran has admitted sending military advisors to Syria in order to help Damascus fight terrorists.

Israeli Energy Minister Yuval Steinitz has alleged that Israel was willing to "eliminate" Syrian President Bashar Assad if the latter continued to "allow Iran to operate" from his country.
"It's unacceptable that Assad sits quietly in his palace and rebuild his regime while allowing Syria to be turned into a base for attacks on Israel," Steinitz said as quoted by Ynet.


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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby UlanBatori » 07 May 2018 23:42

Israelis feel that they are invincible and immune because of their military might and their covert kill services. So far they have been correct in that assessment. The Syria oil grab showed Israel as allied with Saudi Rabidia and ISIS, where the common interest of all the greedy crooks is robbing Syria of its oil. Sad.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby IndraD » 08 May 2018 02:20

Russian Army helicopter Ka-52 crashed in the east of Syria short while ago. Both pilots killed.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby IndraD » 08 May 2018 03:19

The IRI is threatening to hit Israel.
Chief of Staff for the armed forces of the IRI(M.G. Mohhammad Bagheri):" We will respond to Israel when the right time comes. We haven't responded yet and this doesn't mean silence or we accept what Israel did a few days ago."

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 08 May 2018 10:47

IRG/Quds have allegedly setup underground factories for hezbollah, to get around difficulties in exporting large weapons shipments from iran. raw material is much easier to source and lebanon always had skilled weapon smiths given its history

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 08 May 2018 14:52

israel is probably happy with this. they need a manageable sized enemy on the doorstep to keep the gravy train flowing from CONUS :)

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Paul » 08 May 2018 15:46

Read on twitter Iran leader for life Khameini's sons and daughters have stolen $280B of Iran's oil revenues. If true, they make our Mafiosi family look like babe in the woods.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby IndraD » 09 May 2018 02:45

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/05/08 ... s-say.html

soon after trump announced no clear deal with iran is over, an iranian base in Sy was attacked by Israel, fire & smoke billowed. extent of dmage unknown.

An Iranian military base in Syria was attacked on Tuesday, sources confirmed to Fox News.

Western military sources said the military compound that was hit is located about 10 miles south of the Syrian capital city of Damascus.

Syrian TV reported that it was an Israeli airstrike and that Syrian air defense systems shot down two missiles.

The attack happened in Kisweh, according to the official news agency SANA, about an hour after President Trump's announcement that he would be pulling the U.S. out of the Iran nuclear deal.

It wasn't immediately clear if anyone was killed or injured.

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Postby IndraD » 09 May 2018 02:56

US has said Iran is preparing to strike Israel from Syrian soil and it might happen soon.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby IndraD » 09 May 2018 02:58

https://twitter.com/evacool_/status/993951498659946496 (video)
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Video shows the size of the Israeli air strike that targeted the base and storage place of the Iranian missiles in #Alkaswa area south of the Syrian capital

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby IndraD » 09 May 2018 10:52

looks like Israel has reached some sort of agreement with Ru in regards to keeping quiet as Iranian assets are attacked on Sy soil.
With each passing day Israel & US is getting more and more bold. Yes they can't hold ground with air strike alone but enough to disrupt Iran on ground.
S400 and other showpieces will come live only if Ru assets are attacked.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby chanakyaa » 10 May 2018 07:00

Things are getting a little hot in Golan Heights...conflicting reports coming out

BREAKING: DOZENS OF ROCKETS LAUNCHED FROM SYRIA AT ISRAELI ARMY POSITIONS IN GOLAN HEIGHTS

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Austin » 10 May 2018 07:51

Israel has been attacking SAA and Iran fighter for past few weeks now and it was getting bolder so retaliation was expected from SAA

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Austin » 10 May 2018 07:54

Summary of what happened tonight:

1 #Israel Targeted SAA in south #Syria
2 #SAA responded by targeting the Israeli army positions in Jolan Heights
3 Israel tried to target Syrian positions with Stand-off missiles
4 SAA intercepted 70% of the missiles and re-targeted Israel

https://twitter.com/WaelAlRussi/status/ ... 2531513344

Syrian state T.V confirmed that #Israel managed to hit a radar

And i can confirm that Israel managed to knock an S-200 illuminating radar.
Near Al Swida’a This is the only loss between the #Syria/n AD systems that i can confirm tonight. (At least for now)

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 10 May 2018 09:04

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Exclusive to me: Syrian air defense destroys two Israeli warplanes

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby habal » 10 May 2018 12:14

Elijah Magnier has shared that a high level contact in the Syrian Govt has told him that Russia is putting a lot of pressure on the Syrian Govt and if I may add on Iran, not to retaliate to Israel at the moment, Russia understands that these provocations by Israel are intended to scale a large conflict using Israeli allies, KSA & US, and for Russia an escalation would be a mistake now.
For one side I kind of agree with Russia, this is not the time for a retaliation, but on the other hand, Russia could step up the effort to help Syria to shoot down all Israeli incoming missiles, that would send Israels plan and international image. Hope Syria and Iran are getting some nice weapons from Russia in order to avoid engaging in response to Israel’s aggression.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby habal » 10 May 2018 12:26

On Golan heights it seems as if Israel fired missiles into Syria and ISIS militants timed these missile strikes with Israel to attack Syaa positions in Golan. Then Syria fired back missiles deep into Israel with Golan, Tiberias, Haifa all getting hit. Both sides are taking losses but Israel has blacked out news and will most likely report tomorrow that 'Iron dome' has intercepted 100% of 'Iranian missiles'.


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