Levant crisis - III

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Postby Singha » 24 Jun 2018 08:44

Daraa - SAA is trying to cut it into half . the north part will be islanded if so.

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Postby dinesha » 25 Jun 2018 13:06

Ben Rhodes Admits Obama Armed Jihadists In Syria In Bombshell Interview
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06- ... -interview


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Postby Austin » 25 Jun 2018 20:41

Singha check this a detailed write up

The Russian Air Campaign in Syria A Preliminary Analysis

Anton Lavrov Associate Fellow, Centre for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies,
Moscow

https://www.cna.org/CNA_files/PDF/COP-2 ... -Final.pdf

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Postby Singha » 26 Jun 2018 13:50

the first major battle of daraa is over, with the syrian army liberating the lajat area
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Postby Singha » 26 Jun 2018 22:38

Within Syria
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2h2 hours ago

The so called "Shabab al-Sunnah" group who has been threatening the SAA for the last four weeks was the first to run away in eastern Daraa leaving all of its ammo and weapons behind, SANA will release photos soon

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Postby Singha » 26 Jun 2018 22:47

:rotfl:

Joshua Landis

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8h8 hours ago
More Joshua Landis Retweeted Sharmine Narwani
Again the schizophrenic US policy toward Syrian rebels and the War on Terror requires a powerful antipsychotic drug. Al-Qaida has long been feeding on the 56 US fattened militias around Deraa like sturdy ranchers on their cattle.

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Postby Austin » 28 Jun 2018 12:08

Syria’s Idlib Residents Warn of Potential Provocation by White Helmets
"Residents of the Syrian province of Idlib called the Russian Center for Reconciliation of Opposing Sides in Syria warning about upcoming provocation by the White Helmets organization. According to the residents, a convoy of six cars with White Helmets emblems and a truck, loaded with individual protection equipment, visual equipment and seven rockets, as well as with canisters filled with liquids, arrived in the city of Idlib on Sunday," Tsygankov said.

The general added that upon arrival, four unknown individuals had been loading rockets’ warheads with liquid and powder. The truck took the missiles in the direction of the city of Maarat al-Numan and was later followed by the White Helmets convoy.

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Postby Austin » 28 Jun 2018 16:58

Russia continues to withdraw troops from Syria, over the last few days it left more than 1 thousand people and 13 aircraft - Putin
06/28/2018 1:32:53 PM

Moscow. June 28th. Interfax-AVN - The withdrawal of Russian troops from Syria continues, in recent days, 13 planes and 1140 personnel left this country, Russian President Vladimir Putin said.

"As you know, we began the withdrawal of our units during my visit to the base station of Khmeimim, this conclusion continues today," he said on Thursday at a reception in honor of graduates of military universities in the Kremlin.

"Only in the last few days 13 aircraft, 14 helicopters, 1140 personnel have been withdrawn," the president added.

"All of them are people who have been experienced and tested by fighting, and you, your colleagues, together with them, will have to make full use of this experience for the combat training of personnel here on the territory of the Russian Federation, in order to work out the most complex, non-standard tasks during sudden checks , strategic and tactical exercises, "Putin said.



http://militarynews.ru/story.asp?rid=1&nid=484869

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Postby Singha » 29 Jun 2018 07:54

Battle in sweida continues with syrians digesting in small chunks
10 svbied were destroyed by atgms

In east homs the dez desert is finally cleaned and border tracts with iraq secured

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Postby Y. Kanan » 29 Jun 2018 13:00

Iraq executes 12 after PM calls for speedy executions
https://www.yahoo.com/news/iraq-execute ... 22848.html

... Clean up in Iraq continues. If it were up to the Saudis and the Jews (and their US lackeys), ISIS would still be a major threat and peace would not now be in danger of breaking out in Iraq. The Iraqis know it was Iran and Russia who really saved them, not the farcical, fake US campaign against ISIS.

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Postby Rudradev » 30 Jun 2018 01:20

The Clinton-Wilsonians who dominated Foggy Bottom for all these years are $hitting bricks at the thought of what Trump will "give away" to Putin on Syria :mrgreen:

https://www.theatlantic.com/internation ... mp/564173/

One could imagine Putin offering Assad a deal designed to restore him as the ruler of all of Syria. First, he would need to assure Trump during their upcoming meeting that Assad’s offensive in the southwest will soon conclude, and that he would send in Russian forces to enforce a de-escalation zone. In return, he would ask Trump to quickly move U.S. forces out of Syria, allowing him to declare victory. Once the Americans had put Syria in their rear-view mirror, Putin might offer Assad and the Iranians the right to occupy oil-rich eastern Syria, with an assurance that Russian and Syrian forces will gradually reclaim the southwest, piece by piece. :mrgreen:

President Trump might be tempted to take such a deal—a temptation worth resisting. :(( :(( A nearly four-year effort against Islamist extremism would be wasted, as undisciplined Iranian-led militiamen and rapacious regime gunmen occupy an area rich in petroleum and agricultural resources. The alternative—proper stabilization, starting with the rebuilding of Raqqa, the former capital of ISIS—will be neither easy nor quick. Allies and partners will be needed. But giving in to Russia may render all of Syria ungovernable for decades, giving ISIS 2.0 and its enablers a life-saving and gratuitous victory. :roll:


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Postby Lisa » 30 Jun 2018 01:33

Y. Kanan wrote:Iraq executes 12 after PM calls for speedy executions
https://www.yahoo.com/news/iraq-execute ... 22848.html

... Clean up in Iraq continues. If it were up to the Saudis and the Jews (and their US lackeys), ISIS would still be a major threat and peace would not now be in danger of breaking out in Iraq. The Iraqis know it was Iran and Russia who really saved them, not the farcical, fake US campaign against ISIS.


Polite question. In the same sentence why do you only refer to the Israelis by their faith and not Iraq, Saudi Arabia, ISIS, Russia, Iran or the US?

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Postby Singha » 30 Jun 2018 23:10

Daraa front is collapsing rapidly for fsa
https://twitter.com/southfronteng/statu ... 62727?s=21

Some towns are surrendering with no fighting
Russian teams are moving around rattling the cage and offering peace deals
Fsa arw defecting to isis areas or going around beating and arresting suspected regime spies

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Postby Singha » 30 Jun 2018 23:11

Unlike east ghouta not much pitched fighting
These southern fsa are mostly sham bandits propped by arab amd nato support

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Postby Singha » 30 Jun 2018 23:16

Singha wrote:Unlike east ghouta not much pitched fighting
These southern fsa are mostly sham bandits propped by arab amd nato support


https://in.reuters.com/article/mideast- ... NKBN1JQ05U

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Postby Y. Kanan » 01 Jul 2018 02:29

Lisa wrote:
Y. Kanan wrote:Iraq executes 12 after PM calls for speedy executions
https://www.yahoo.com/news/iraq-execute ... 22848.html

... Clean up in Iraq continues. If it were up to the Saudis and the Jews (and their US lackeys), ISIS would still be a major threat and peace would not now be in danger of breaking out in Iraq. The Iraqis know it was Iran and Russia who really saved them, not the farcical, fake US campaign against ISIS.


Polite question. In the same sentence why do you only refer to the Israelis by their faith and not Iraq, Saudi Arabia, ISIS, Russia, Iran or the US?


Because Isreal is the world's only Jewish state, and because their unabashed goal is to spread Islamic chaos worldwide. This is a goal shared and advanced by Jews worldwide. Muslims talk of an "Ummah" but it's the Jews who really put their money where there mouth is, when it comes to tribalism in the sense of putting your tribe ahead of everyone else including the nation you live in. Muslims only dream of being this unified, but in reality are too primitive to make it happen.

My complaint with Israel, and Jews in general, is they've taken the wrong side in this global clash of civilizations. Collectively, Jews work to advance Islamic ideology because it perversely serves their interests. The goals: get everyone at war with Islam, get every nation in the ME mired in Islamic violence, and overthrow every moderate muslim regime, the very regimes whose very moderation threatens to make the neighborhood more peaceful. This is the same reason Jews, who control the entire western media and political establishments, seek to flood Europe with muslims and why they work to encourage muslim violence in India and destabilze us. The Jews, within Isreal and without, are no allies of India. They want the same fate for us as Syria, Libya, Iraq, etc.

Isreali policy is indistinguishable from Saudi policy, and their goals are the same.

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Postby Austin » 01 Jul 2018 16:01

EXCLUSIVE, FULL & UNEDITED Interview Of Lavrov To British Channel 4


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Postby Austin » 01 Jul 2018 16:05

Russian military downs unidentified drones near Khmeimim Air Base in Syria – MoD

https://www.rt.com/news/431393-russia-k ... es-downed/
A group of unidentified drones has been shot down by Russia’s Air Defense units near Khmeimim Air Base in Syria, the Russian MoD has announced. No damage to the facility was reported.

The objects were detected north-east from the military facility on Saturday, the base’s authorities said. “All aerial targets were destroyed,” they confirmed. The military, however, stopped short of naming exact weapon systems which were used to bring down the drones.

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Postby Austin » 02 Jul 2018 10:04

Heres the drone , Improvised stuff

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Postby Y. Kanan » 02 Jul 2018 12:54

Austin wrote:Russia continues to withdraw troops from Syria, over the last few days it left more than 1 thousand people and 13 aircraft - Putin


How many times are the Russians going to withdraw from Syria? They've already "pulled out" on at least two occasions. Are they trying to embolden their enemies by appearing weak and indecisive, in order to trick them into fighting harder and getting themselves killed? Very Chankian.

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Postby Austin » 02 Jul 2018 22:17

They have thousands of troops there so this time they withdrew about 1000 plus couple of aircrafts , I believe Russian troops were there for their own security of their assets and to re-enforce around it they did not participate in any direct ground operation barring SF and observers

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Postby Singha » 02 Jul 2018 23:01

various FSA leaders are fleeing into jordan and beyond from daraa and sweida pockets with large sums of money, telling their troops to fight hard till the end.

no wonder its falling like a house of cards.

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Postby Lisa » 03 Jul 2018 02:24

Y. Kanan wrote:
Lisa wrote:
Polite question. In the same sentence why do you only refer to the Israelis by their faith and not Iraq, Saudi Arabia, ISIS, Russia, Iran or the US?


Because Isreal is the world's only Jewish state, and because their unabashed goal is to spread Islamic chaos worldwide. This is a goal shared and advanced by Jews worldwide. Muslims talk of an "Ummah" but it's the Jews who really put their money where there mouth is, when it comes to tribalism in the sense of putting your tribe ahead of everyone else including the nation you live in. Muslims only dream of being this unified, but in reality are too primitive to make it happen.

My complaint with Israel, and Jews in general, is they've taken the wrong side in this global clash of civilizations. Collectively, Jews work to advance Islamic ideology because it perversely serves their interests. The goals: get everyone at war with Islam, get every nation in the ME mired in Islamic violence, and overthrow every moderate muslim regime, the very regimes whose very moderation threatens to make the neighborhood more peaceful. This is the same reason Jews, who control the entire western media and political establishments, seek to flood Europe with muslims and why they work to encourage muslim violence in India and destabilze us. The Jews, within Isreal and without, are no allies of India. They want the same fate for us as Syria, Libya, Iraq, etc.

Isreali policy is indistinguishable from Saudi policy, and their goals are the same.


Israel is NOT a Jewish nation. Judaism is NOT its state religion. Please provide a snapshot of its constitution that contradicts what I have said.

Iraq, Saudi Arabia, ISIS and Iran are all constitutionally muslim entities where islam is the state religion, yet you do not care to use the same excuse to refer to them by their faiths for bracketing them by faith seems lost to you. A man called General Jacobs worked in the Indian Army and if he were alive you would say to him what you have said above in reference to his faith, I think not.

My last post on this matter.

P.S. Don't write back to say that General Jacobs was an exception.

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Postby nachiket » 03 Jul 2018 03:04

Lisa wrote:Israel is NOT a Jewish nation. Judaism is NOT its state religion. Please provide a snapshot of its constitution that contradicts what I have said.

There is some ambiguity about this. Israel does not have a full constitution like we do. What it does have is a comprehensive list of Basic Laws which kind of function as a constitution.

This is from the first law dealing with establishment of the Knesset (Israeli Parliament)
A candidates' list shall not participate in elections to the Knesset, and a person shall not be a candidate for election to the Knesset, if the objects or actions of the list or the actions of the person, expressly or by implication, include one of the following:

negation of the existence of the State of Israel as a Jewish and democratic state;
incitement to racism;
support of armed struggle, by a hostile state or a terrorist organization, against the State of Israel.


You are ineligible to be elected to the Knesset if you deny that Israel is a "Jewish and Democratic" state.

Also from Basic Law: Human Dignity and Liberty
1. The purpose of this Basic Law is to protect human dignity and liberty, in order to establish in a Basic Law the values of the State of Israel as a Jewish and democratic state.


Source: https://www.knesset.gov.il/description/ ... yesod1.htm

However, it is not explicitly mentioned that Judaism is the state religion of Israel anywhere to my knowledge. Hence the ambiguity.

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Postby Austin » 03 Jul 2018 13:26

US intelligence report confirms Saudi, Turkey provide al-Nusra Front terrorists with basic chemicals - says American journalist

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An American investigative journalist and political writer has implicated Saudi Arabia and Turkey in the deadly 2013 chemical attack in the Damascus suburb of Ghouta.

(AhlulBayt News Agency) - An American investigative journalist and political writer has implicated Saudi Arabia and Turkey in the deadly 2013 chemical attack in the Damascus suburb of Ghouta.

A US intelligence report confirmed that Saudi Arabia and Turkey were providing al-Nusra Front terrorists with the basic chemicals used for sarin gas, Seymour Hersh told Russia’s RT television network on Saturday.

The sarin gas used in the Ghouta gas attack “was not the same as in the Syrian military,” he added.

“The government knew from this very important intelligence report … that there were two suspects – al-Nusra had the stuff and Syria had the stuff. Forget about having it analyzed – they knew right away and they only talked about one,” Hersh said.

Western countries held the Syrian government responsible for the Ghouta assault that killed hundreds of people in August 2013 without any evidence.

A UN report said the substance concerned was the nerve agent sarin and the delivery system was ground-to-ground rockets.

Syria surrendered its entire chemical stockpile in 2013 to a mission led by the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) and the UN.

US ship brings chemicals to region

Separately on Sunday, a senior spokesman for the Iranian armed forces said that the US Navy’s Cape Ray vessel carrying chemicals had docked at the coast of one of the Persian Gulf countries.

Brigadier General Abolfazl Shekarchi said the ship had recently been escorted into the region by an American warship.

The chemicals carried by the US ship are meant to be transferred to parts of Iraq and Syria, he said, warring of the possible consequences of such efforts.

“After suffering consecutive blows by the resistance front, the Americans have now resorted to dangerous ways to continue their presence in Iraq and Syria and justify their illegitimate presence in the region,” Shekarchi said.

The news proves that chemical attacks in Iraq and Syria have been engineered and led by the Americans, he added.

The Western countries have used the alleged gas attacks in Syria as a pretext to target military positions inside the Arab country.

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Postby Y. Kanan » 04 Jul 2018 22:29

Lisa wrote:
Y. Kanan wrote:
Because Isreal is the world's only Jewish state, and because their unabashed goal is to spread Islamic chaos worldwide. This is a goal shared and advanced by Jews worldwide. Muslims talk of an "Ummah" but it's the Jews who really put their money where there mouth is, when it comes to tribalism in the sense of putting your tribe ahead of everyone else including the nation you live in. Muslims only dream of being this unified, but in reality are too primitive to make it happen.

My complaint with Israel, and Jews in general, is they've taken the wrong side in this global clash of civilizations. Collectively, Jews work to advance Islamic ideology because it perversely serves their interests. The goals: get everyone at war with Islam, get every nation in the ME mired in Islamic violence, and overthrow every moderate muslim regime, the very regimes whose very moderation threatens to make the neighborhood more peaceful. This is the same reason Jews, who control the entire western media and political establishments, seek to flood Europe with muslims and why they work to encourage muslim violence in India and destabilze us. The Jews, within Isreal and without, are no allies of India. They want the same fate for us as Syria, Libya, Iraq, etc.

Isreali policy is indistinguishable from Saudi policy, and their goals are the same.


Israel is NOT a Jewish nation. Judaism is NOT its state religion. Please provide a snapshot of its constitution that contradicts what I have said.

Iraq, Saudi Arabia, ISIS and Iran are all constitutionally muslim entities where islam is the state religion, yet you do not care to use the same excuse to refer to them by their faiths for bracketing them by faith seems lost to you. A man called General Jacobs worked in the Indian Army and if he were alive you would say to him what you have said above in reference to his faith, I think not.

My last post on this matter.

P.S. Don't write back to say that General Jacobs was an exception.


Semantics. Who cares what their constitution says? The overt "Jewishness" of Isreal doesn't really matter anyway. My problem with Isreal and int'l Jewry isn't that they're too Jewish. Far from it, actually. My problem is they've joined the worst branch of Islam (Sunni Takfiri/Wahabbi expanionists), the same variety of Islam we've been fighting for as long as anyone can remember. The fact is Isreal backs ISIS and the other militant groups in Syria and Iraq. They back Saudi Arabia in Yemen. Jewish controlled western media does the same.

Isreal and western Jewry are not our friends.

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Postby Philip » 05 Jul 2018 13:11

Israel is in internal division between fundamentalists and
moderates.Under Bibii N, the fundoos are surging ahead with their agenda of settlement construction, shoving out Palestinians from key parts of Jerusalem and ghe West Bank.Gaza is a rat hole .There is no room for its inhabitants to breathe a drcent life.

One answer to me is for the sale/ lease of more adjoining land from Egypt at high cost, paid for by the world community and the chief Islamic backers of the Palestinians.It could even bd tdchnically Egyptian sovereign land leased to the Palestinianz for a hugd down payment and annual rent filling Egyptian coffers.A decent settlellment coild be built like what's happening in the Gulf and the Israelis would make money too building it in part.

Allying with thd worst scum oc ghe Islamic world will one day backfire upon Israel.It made peace with Egypt and Jordan.Why not Syria and Iran? A deal with both would rnd the threat from the Hiz. in Lebanon too.Once Russia entered the scene with total support for Assad and military support to Iran, the game has changed decisively.It is now firmly ensconced in its naval and air enclaves and will not budge for anybody.Israel must accept the new reality and use its good relationship with Russia to reduce the yhreat ot its security.

The Trump- Putin summiit will see some movement hopefully in Syria , where the US is pullimg out leaving its oily partners and ungodly bumchums like ISIS unceremoniously dumped! Mr.Modi should take great care in a close " hug" with Uncle Sam, a habitual offender and past master at betrayal.

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Postby uddu » 05 Jul 2018 17:05

You're day dreaming a lot. There will never be peace in the middle east as long as majority of the countries declare themselves as Islamic. The peace with Iran will follow when they turn Zoroastrian.

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Postby habal » 05 Jul 2018 20:40

Philip, Israel's plan is to expand into fertile areas of Syria like golan etc for its own citizens, not palestinians. That is why they are backing isis. So isis first creates instability and defeats status-quo power. Israel/usa defeats isis because 'hey it is a terrorist power' and it is the right thing to do no. And then expand into areas depopulated by isis but have good water supply, fertile areable land, good climate. So they will never want peace with Syria.

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Postby Austin » 07 Jul 2018 22:58

"No Nerve Agents" In Douma: OPCW Report Demolishes White House Sarin Narrative

A preliminary report published Friday by the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) found no traces of any nerve agent at the site of a suspected chemical attack in the Syrian city of Douma. The OPCW report states this unambiguously as follows: "No organophosphorous nerve agents or their degradation products were detected in the environmental samples or in the plasma samples taken from alleged casualties."

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Postby Shanmukh » 07 Jul 2018 23:48

habal wrote:Philip, Israel's plan is to expand into fertile areas of Syria like golan etc for its own citizens, not palestinians. That is why they are backing isis. So isis first creates instability and defeats status-quo power. Israel/usa defeats isis because 'hey it is a terrorist power' and it is the right thing to do no. And then expand into areas depopulated by isis but have good water supply, fertile areable land, good climate. So they will never want peace with Syria.


Golan Heights is a basaltic plateau, with a pop. density of 36/sq km [Israel has an average pop. density of 387/sq. km]. The biggest settlement in Golan heights is Majdal Shams, a Druze settlement. Does this look fertile to you? The Syrian side of the Golan is equally desolate.

The only reason Israel keeps hanging on to the Golan is because they want a card for their comprehensive settlement with Syria.

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Postby Singha » 08 Jul 2018 11:45

https://mobile.twitter.com/PetoLucem/st ... 49/photo/1

Syrians defeat fsa in daraa and reach jordan border post

Only a pocket of isis and fsa adjacent to golan is left

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Postby habal » 08 Jul 2018 13:04

Shanmukh wrote:Golan Heights is a basaltic plateau, with a pop. density of 36/sq km [Israel has an average pop. density of 387/sq. km]. The biggest settlement in Golan heights is Majdal Shams, a Druze settlement. Does this look fertile to you? The Syrian side of the Golan is equally desolate.


https://www.timesofisrael.com/agricultu ... -in-golan/

The cabinet has authorized a proposal to establish 750 farming estates in the disputed Golan Heights over the next five years, the Agriculture and Rural Development Ministry announced.

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Residents of the Golan rely heavily on agriculture as a source of income, and this decision comes with the goal of expanding employment opportunities for them and creating anchors that will strengthen the communities on the Golan,” Agriculture Minister Yair Shamir, who proposed the plan with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, said in a statement posted to his Facebook page.


As part of the plan, 30,000 dunams (7,400 acres) of land will be converted for agricultural use near existing settlements, the Water Authority will formulate a framework for the development of a water system in the Golan in response to the needs that arise from the agricultural plan, and the Defense Ministry will work to clear minefields in the areas that will be developed as part of the plan.

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Postby Shanmukh » 08 Jul 2018 20:13

@Habal
Here. Golan is always a water starved area, despite rains [due to the elevation], because there is nothing to hold the water. In a nutshell, the area is thinly populated simply because it is not economical to do anything there. It is not fertile - it is a rocky plateau, which is why mostly only the semi-nomadic Druze live there & the fact that there is so much free land is because it is not an easy area to live in. Out of 1800 sq. kms of Israeli Golan, less than 20% is cultivable even after the latest expansion plans. You don't need to take my word for it. Go there & see for yourself.

As for water supply, there is no way that the Syrians can interfere with the water supply because the area naturally drains into the Sea of Galilee. Unless the Syrians find a way to level a mountain, there is nothing they can do to stop the waters from flowing into the Galilee.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.pr ... -1.5481680

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Postby UlanBatori » 09 Jul 2018 06:43

The Israelis will find a way to do rainwater harvesting on a large scale. It seems a no-brainer, hain? The Romans did such projects back in BCE. From what I hear, Chennai's chronic water shortage that got worse and worse until the 1990s, has magically disappeared. Why? Guvrmand asked ppl to do "voluntary" rainwater harvesting and then the CM wondered aloud whether the Govt should continue to "voluntarily" supply electric power to those who did not volunteer. Now that they have made the land their own, Israelis can and will blast out a few cavities at the higher altitudes and drill a whole bunch of holes to get the rain into the ground.

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Postby Singha » 09 Jul 2018 07:43

If the infertile looking rain starved central valley of california can be a farming superpawa, anything can be grown in the golan for sure

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 09 Jul 2018 23:07

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huge quantity of weapons upto tanks being surrendered by the rebels


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