Levant crisis - III

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby habal » 16 Oct 2019 08:30

Winners and losers in turkish attack on kurds

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby habal » 16 Oct 2019 08:30

Babak Taghvaee
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#BREAKING:According to my #Russian military sources #Russia Air Force successfully provided top cover for #Syria Arab Army & #SDF this afternoon during which at-least in one case, #Turkish F-16Cs which were about to bomb a #SDF HQ in #Manbij were chased away by 2 #Russian Su-35s!

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby habal » 16 Oct 2019 08:32

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Reports that the Conoco and Al-Umar oil fields in eastern Deir Ezzor are under Syrian Army control.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby habal » 16 Oct 2019 08:40

Elijah J. Magnier
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HeHeHeHeHe... These "thugs and bandits and pirates and scums" have been selected, trained, armed and financed by the #US and all the coalition for 8 years and most of you guys have been venerating them as "moderate rebels".

The Irony of history.


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A senior US official told reporters the following about the proxy force Turkey is relying on as part of its Syria invasion: "They could have used Turkish regular troops,...Instead they decided to use these thugs & bandits & pirates that should be wiped off the face of the earth"

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Flags of #Russia and #Syria replaced the #US flag in North-East Syria. FT as an indicator.
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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby habal » 16 Oct 2019 08:42

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Pashinyan & Putin held phone call discussing Turkey’s invasion of Syria & security of Qamishli’s Armenian community.

In addition, new group of Armenian doctors & de-miners arrived in Syria on board Russian military transport to provide humanitarian assistance to Syrians.

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A fresh batch of Russian combat troops has arrived to Syria.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby habal » 16 Oct 2019 10:53

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Syrian Army is in full control of Manbij city.Russian military police now patrolling the streets of #Manbij after US troops withdraw

https://twitter.com/i/status/1184136649644617730

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby kit » 16 Oct 2019 11:05

Well the US has lost Syria and its war on ISIS .. wonder how far this will ripple down in its influence in middle east !! .. oh they have shifted their CENTCOM operations command from Quatar to the US as well., so winding down middle east?., Gen Vodkov seems to have moved in deftly to fill the power vacuum

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby abhik » 16 Oct 2019 11:17

How does US supply its troops in Syria, Is it through Turkey (aka Afghanistan via Paki 2.0), or is it through iraq ( not much better i guess)?

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby habal » 16 Oct 2019 11:19

Well this move of US has far reaching implications.

With the oil wells in north east hitherto controlled by SDF falling back into Syrian govt hands, the Syrian dependence on Tehran for oil drastically reduces.

Iran anyway sends a tanker worth oil to Syria which lasts for about 3 months. But dependence in Iran remains for reconstruction, pharmaceuticals etc.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby V_Raman » 16 Oct 2019 11:29

USA is doubling down for its extended fight with PRC. these are distractions it does not want. there is no way they are getting out of Arabian peninsula which is the important one. Rest - syria/turkey etc. - Europe should handle. Time for them to commit troops and not rely on USA - which is what Trump keeps repeating at every possible instance.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby kit » 16 Oct 2019 11:30

abhik wrote:How does US supply its troops in Syria, Is it through Turkey (aka Afghanistan via Paki 2.0), or is it through iraq ( not much better i guess)?


Better to rename Turkey as paki2.0 , they are hiding and abetting the ISIS remnants now while EU sits on its collective asses and the trumper twiddles his thumbs !

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Y. Kanan » 16 Oct 2019 12:00

Nice arrangement: Trump gets to say "I killed ISIS and the Kurds are fine". Erdogan gets to say "Kurds are no longer an issue; they've reabosrbed into Syria and basically Iraq, too. I win." Putin gets to say "I win and from now on you all need to just side with me". Assad gets to say "I'm alive." Iran and Shia Crescent sort of win. Looks like a fairly significant defeat for the globalist\Wahabbi\Jew alliance. Or maybe I'm reading this too optimistically.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby vishvak » 16 Oct 2019 12:52

kit wrote:..
Better to rename Turkey as paki2.0 , they are hiding and abetting the ISIS remnants now while EU sits on its collective asses and the trumper twiddles his thumbs !

The Turks' plan prolly was that they wanted a Isis pasand jihadi 'buffer' but in territories where Syria Iraq Iran are close by at North of Syria. This happen to be kurd population too therefore the excuse. Their future plan would be to eat up more territories of these countries depending upon which one becomes weaker while Turks play political games with support of allies.

Wonder why anyone has to entertain such plans though. No one gives a shyt unless partners in crime from far away with ambitions join in. (Paki, China ) for loot and plunder while proxy from turklands run riot for land women and what not.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby habal » 16 Oct 2019 17:04

americans left kobane in such a rush, that their bases are left almost completely intact with operational entry/exit boom barriers, electricity gensets, soda in regrigerator.


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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby nam » 16 Oct 2019 18:02

Moment, Turkish jets stuck the journalist column.

https://twitter.com/BabakTaghvaee/status/1184437013434503169

Indiscriminate as it gets..any group of gathering seems to be bombed.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby habal » 16 Oct 2019 22:28

Has Russia allowed Tiger Forces to bring their goodies to the front lines?

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Syrian Arab Army soldiers with heavy armour. Syrian Arab Army T-90 main battle tank with crews at the Raqqah provincial border with Aleppo

Syrian Arab Army soldiers preparing fortifications for possible operations against Turkish forces in the Aleppo countryside near Kweiris airbase

There are attacks on the YPG held areas near afrin..

It is reported that the Syria Arab Army is now engaged in battle against Turkish Army & its militias from SNA in the outskirt of Raqqa.

US warplanes bombed the US-French military base in Kharab’ Ashaq (Aleppo Governorate) near the Lafarge cement factory into oblivion after completing the evacuation | This area and the French Lafarge factory was central to US and European support for ISIS and other terrorists

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby habal » 16 Oct 2019 22:36

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SAA takes over the grassy fields

Al-Omar’s large oilfields and Conoco gas facilities in control of the Syrian government.

https://english.iswnews.com/7702/al-oma ... overnment/

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby habal » 16 Oct 2019 22:39

KREMLIN

The Kremlin said late on Tuesday that Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan had phoned Putin.

The Russian leader had used the call to complain about the humanitarian situation on the Turkish-Syrian border and had stressed the need to avoid a clash between Turkish and Syrian forces.

Putin had told Erdoğan that the situation whereby Islamic State prisoners being held in custody by Syrian Kurds were exploiting the chaos by trying to escape was unacceptable, the Kremlin said.

Russia: Turkey’s unacceptable invasion of Syria

President Vladimir Putin’s envoy for Syria Alexander Lavrentiev says 1998 pact between Syria and Turkey allows Turks to push up to 6 miles into Syria for counter terrorism purposes, but that Turkey does not have the right to remain in Syria permanently.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby habal » 16 Oct 2019 23:08

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More and more Russian reinforcements have landend at Hmeymim Airbase (Latakia Governorate) today.

Russian Air Force Tu-154s have been flying almost non-stop between Russia and Syria these past 48 hours

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby habal » 16 Oct 2019 23:16

US trained 'moderate rebels' were fighting US trained YPG in territory previously occupied by US which the US has now abandoned.

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Pompeo ahead of Turkey visit:

"We should never mistake who the actor is that has caused this disruption there. It wasn’t the US, it wasn’t the Europeans that were there in Syria alongside of us; it was Pres Erdogan who is responsible for this instability” http://ahval.co/en-61940

So the Americans are washing their hands, not only from the #Kurds but also from #Turkey. The US is saying it has nothing to do with the way. The US hasn't trained/armed jihadists, bombed the Syrian Army, No. Nothing.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby vimal » 16 Oct 2019 23:18

how many threads do we have on Mid East?

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby ramana » 16 Oct 2019 23:38

Depends on where the issue is?
Basically two major ones:
West Asia and Levant.

Rest are special topics
Like Kurdistan, Iran, KSA (has three threads)

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Re: Levant crisis - III

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Y. Kanan » 17 Oct 2019 04:21

habal wrote:Brasco_Aad
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More and more Russian reinforcements have landend at Hmeymim Airbase (Latakia Governorate) today.

Russian Air Force Tu-154s have been flying almost non-stop between Russia and Syria these past 48 hours


If Erdogan is really as dumb as he appears to be, he might push on and then it's war between Turkey\jihadists\ISIS remnants on one side (with Isreali air support) and Syria\Russia\Iran\Kurds on the other side. Conventionally, Turkey could overwhelm the small Russian contingent in Syria, after all they have hundreds of modern combat aircraft vs a few dozen RuAF planes. But on the ground, it looks like this would be a real meat grinder for Turkey and its jihadi brigades.

Could Erdogan be that short-sighted?

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby habal » 17 Oct 2019 08:03

Breaking: SAA enters Ayn al Arab

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Entry of the Syrian Arab Army into the city of Ayn al Arab, at the border to Turkey.
photo.-Aleppo Defenders Corps (pictures of SAA troops entering the city)

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby UlanBatori » 17 Oct 2019 08:20

Could Erdogan be that short-sighted?

The Russians are flying in a substantial force to use as Patrols / Military Polis "separating the two armies". Meanwhile the No-Fly Zone enforced by the RuAF provides air cover.
I wondered why the Russians were putting themselves in harm's way by being "between the two armies".

The amazing thing is that very suddenly, the RuAF enforced a No-Fly Zone over the areas that used to have NATO forces. No fuss, just fait accompli, and I don't hear any NATO complaints. L'Hotel de Champagne Flotacione with all its Rafales, silent. (experience of what happened last time has not been forgotten). UK Poodle Air Force.. silent. USAF doing aerobatics over Saudi Arabia. And the TuAF? totally grounded or getting chased away. Israelis quiet - so far.

Message is very simple: To hit the Syrians, the Turks/ Moderate Child Beheaders (MCH) would have to overrun the Russians. Anyone attacking the Russians will be blasted from land, sea and air. If it were SyAF doing the patrolling, the Israelis might work their mischief, but even they are going to think hard b4 bissing off the Russians.

Gens. Smirnoff and Vodkov are not dummies..

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby habal » 17 Oct 2019 09:13

you do not play dirty with baby bear when mama bear is watching.

- native legend + common sense

you - badger/raccoon - turkey
baby bear - russian detachment in Syria/hymeimim base
mama bear - 7850 nukes + 4000 aircraft

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Re: Levant crisis - III

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby kit » 17 Oct 2019 09:37

and that is the actual letter !!

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Re: Levant crisis - III

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Serge
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Syrian Army officially entered YPG-held Kobani this evening. Joint forces will deter any future Turkish-jihadist offensive on the symbolic town.

This will be first official Syrian state presence in a town bordering Turkey besides Kessab and Qamishli.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby vimal » 17 Oct 2019 09:42

UlanBatori wrote:
Could Erdogan be that short-sighted?


The amazing thing is that very suddenly, the RuAF enforced a No-Fly Zone over the areas that used to have NATO forces. No fuss, just fait accompli, and I don't hear any NATO complaints. L'Hotel de Champagne Flotacione with all its Rafales, silent. (experience of what happened last time has not been forgotten). UK Poodle Air Force.. silent. USAF doing aerobatics over Saudi Arabia. And the TuAF? totally grounded or getting chased away. Israelis quiet - so far.



Doesn't Syria have S300 in their arsenal. They can make a Turkey shoot of Erdu's air force.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby kit » 17 Oct 2019 09:44

Y. Kanan wrote:
habal wrote:Brasco_Aad
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More and more Russian reinforcements have landend at Hmeymim Airbase (Latakia Governorate) today.

Russian Air Force Tu-154s have been flying almost non-stop between Russia and Syria these past 48 hours


If Erdogan is really as dumb as he appears to be, he might push on and then it's war between Turkey\jihadists\ISIS remnants on one side (with Isreali air support) and Syria\Russia\Iran\Kurds on the other side. Conventionally, Turkey could overwhelm the small Russian contingent in Syria, after all they have hundreds of modern combat aircraft vs a few dozen RuAF planes. But on the ground, it looks like this would be a real meat grinder for Turkey and its jihadi brigades.

Could Erdogan be that short-sighted?


it does look he has company of bad advisers (the religious kind) or in a manic state (who can reason with him ? other than im the dim .. and i frankly suspect their parlay in NY took things a bit too far)

the Malaysian snake needs to be neutered double-quick else he will develop "ideas" of his own.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby kit » 17 Oct 2019 09:46

UlanBatori wrote:
Could Erdogan be that short-sighted?

The Russians are flying in a substantial force to use as Patrols / Military Polis "separating the two armies". Meanwhile the No-Fly Zone enforced by the RuAF provides air cover.
I wondered why the Russians were putting themselves in harm's way by being "between the two armies".

The amazing thing is that very suddenly, the RuAF enforced a No-Fly Zone over the areas that used to have NATO forces. No fuss, just fait accompli, and I don't hear any NATO complaints. L'Hotel de Champagne Flotacione with all its Rafales, silent. (experience of what happened last time has not been forgotten). UK Poodle Air Force.. silent. USAF doing aerobatics over Saudi Arabia. And the TuAF? totally grounded or getting chased away. Israelis quiet - so far.

Message is very simple: To hit the Syrians, the Turks/ Moderate Child Beheaders (MCH) would have to overrun the Russians. Anyone attacking the Russians will be blasted from land, sea and air. If it were SyAF doing the patrolling, the Israelis might work their mischief, but even they are going to think hard b4 bissing off the Russians.

Gens. Smirnoff and Vodkov are not dummies..


The Russians putting themselves in harms way means they WILL shoot if attacked unlike the Americans who ran off at the first sight of trouble with their "ally"...

i suspect a russian letter going to the erdogan similar to trumpers above.. a middle east conflagration could be likely if turkey shoots at any Russian plane..will Turkey invoke its "NATO" status :mrgreen: .. ah the world we live in .. no one is sure about who is the friend or enemy any more

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby habal » 17 Oct 2019 09:50

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/br ... ince-2013/

Breaking: Syrian Army prepares to enter Raqqa city for first since 2013



The source said the U.S. military has already begun withdrawing from Al-Raqqa, adding that the Syrian Army will not enter until all of the former’s forces are gone from the city.

This is a major development in northern Syria as the Syrian Army’s return to Raqqa marks the first time since 2013 that their troops will enter this city in northern Syria.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Cain Marko » 17 Oct 2019 12:10

kit wrote:
vimal wrote:

Doesn't Syria have S300 in their arsenal. They can make a Turkey shoot of Erdu's air force.


Turkey has S300 and has taken delivery of S400

S300?

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Cain Marko » 17 Oct 2019 12:13

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Is this for real? :eek: Damn that Trump - got some large size oranges on him

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Cain Marko » 17 Oct 2019 12:19

UlanBatori wrote:
Could Erdogan be that short-sighted?

The Russians are flying in a substantial force to use as Patrols / Military Polis "separating the two armies". Meanwhile the No-Fly Zone enforced by the RuAF provides air cover.
I wondered why the Russians were putting themselves in harm's way by being "between the two armies".

The amazing thing is that very suddenly, the RuAF enforced a No-Fly Zone over the areas that used to have NATO forces. No fuss, just fait accompli, and I don't hear any NATO complaints. L'Hotel de Champagne Flotacione with all its Rafales, silent. (experience of what happened last time has not been forgotten). UK Poodle Air Force.. silent. USAF doing aerobatics over Saudi Arabia. And the TuAF? totally grounded or getting chased away. Israelis quiet - so far.

Message is very simple: To hit the Syrians, the Turks/ Moderate Child Beheaders (MCH) would have to overrun the Russians. Anyone attacking the Russians will be blasted from land, sea and air. If it were SyAF doing the patrolling, the Israelis might work their mischief, but even they are going to think hard b4 bissing off the Russians.

Gens. Smirnoff and Vodkov are not dummies..

Israelis are traditional Kurdish allies and have condemned the the turkish move so very unlikely to do anything serious other than a raid or two in Syria. Marshal Vodkov could have a half dozen s400 batteries and serious numbers of flankers and foxbats in the zone in double quick time if needed.
The turks will not try to push the russians - they don't stand a chance. They got away with it earlier thanks to the US presence in the region. Right now the Russkis call the shots and the Turks will have to behave.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Cain Marko » 17 Oct 2019 12:21

Y. Kanan wrote:
habal wrote:Brasco_Aad
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More and more Russian reinforcements have landend at Hmeymim Airbase (Latakia Governorate) today.

Russian Air Force Tu-154s have been flying almost non-stop between Russia and Syria these past 48 hours


If Erdogan is really as dumb as he appears to be, he might push on and then it's war between Turkey\jihadists\ISIS remnants on one side (with Isreali air support) and Syria\Russia\Iran\Kurds on the other side. Conventionally, Turkey could overwhelm the small Russian contingent in Syria, after all they have hundreds of modern combat aircraft vs a few dozen RuAF planes. But on the ground, it looks like this would be a real meat grinder for Turkey and its jihadi brigades.

Could Erdogan be that short-sighted?

Only in its dreams could turkey dislodge the Russkis from the area - the russkis will have the place sealed off with s400s, flankers and offensive strikes - Kalibr and White Swan deliveries. The israelis are pretty pro kurd for the most part and have already condemned the turks.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Mollick.R » 17 Oct 2019 12:30

Cain Marko wrote:
kit wrote:[..............
Is this for real? :eek: Damn that Trump - got some large size oranges on him


Looks like the letter is real and not a hoax.

'Don't Be a Tough Guy. Don't Be a Fool!' President Trump Wrote to Erdogan About Turkey's Advance Into Syria

https://time.com/5702863/trump-erdogan-turkey-syria-letter/


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