Levant crisis - III

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Lilo » 21 Apr 2016 17:36

deejay wrote:Thought for the day:

Jackson Diehl ‏@JacksonDiehl now9 hours ago
Turns out the Syrian Opposition Coalition Twitter account was run by a Washington PR firm hired by Saudi Arabia

Michael Ondich ‏@mkondich Jan 10
hmmmm all of these sites with various campaigns calling for western intervention in syria are run by the same person

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/04/20/saudi-government-has-vast-network-of-pr-lobby-firms-in-u-s/?postshare=2561461170847996&tid=ss_tw

So whenever TSJ ji was doing the fire and brimstone routine on Assad's "human rights abuse" of Al-Nusra gangs, he was actually voicing Saudi Barbaria's PR propagandu from Washington ?!

That feeling of unwittingly being used must be really bad.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby TSJones » 21 Apr 2016 17:46

Lilo wrote:
deejay wrote:Thought for the day:

Jackson Diehl ‏@JacksonDiehl now9 hours ago
Turns out the Syrian Opposition Coalition Twitter account was run by a Washington PR firm hired by Saudi Arabia

Michael Ondich ‏@mkondich Jan 10
hmmmm all of these sites with various campaigns calling for western intervention in syria are run by the same person

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/04/20/saudi-government-has-vast-network-of-pr-lobby-firms-in-u-s/?postshare=2561461170847996&tid=ss_tw

So whenever TSJ ji was doing the fire and brimstone routine on Assad's "human rights abuse" of Al-Nusra gangs, he was actually voicing Saudi Barbaria's PR propagandu from Washington ?!

That feeling of unwittingly being used must be really bad.


I don't know what you are talking about. I never wrote about Assad's "human rights abuse" of Al-Nusra gangs,

you really shouldn't make up false accusations.

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Postby UlanBatori » 21 Apr 2016 19:20

Did u c the report on how ISIS Humanitarians are being transported, say, between Deir ez Zor and Raqqa? Using RED CRESCENT buses. So if those are hit, the Humanitarian US satellites can produce b4&after photos in hi-res of the Russians/Assadians bombing ISIS military transports Red Crescent ambulances and ISIS C^3 centershospitals.

Figures...

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Y. Kanan » 22 Apr 2016 07:56

TSJones wrote:I don't know what you are talking about. I never wrote about [b]Assad's "human rights abuse" of Al-Nusra gangs


No what you actually do is post snarky one-liners which effectively show your support for the other side (ISIS, Al-Nusra, Army of Islam, FSA, etc) and celebrate the deaths of Russian and Syrian troops. You support evil and cheer for the deaths of people out there fighting the good fight, ironically against the very same people who have killed so many Americans, to say nothing of all those Iraqi\Syrian Kurds, Yazidis, Christians (though I doubt their lives matter to you).

You're either a pathetic troll just trying to get a rise out of us, or a simpleton whose hatred of the Russians (and by extension Syrians, Iranians and anyone else allied with them) leads you to a sort of knee-jerk defense of Sunni militants, the Saudi govt, the Turks, and the other forces currently spreading chaos all over the Middle East.

Either way, you're pathetic, uninformed and not particularly clever. They'd roast you alive on any US forum but for we treat you with kid gloves here, like a retarded child everyone is supposed to humour.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 22 Apr 2016 08:13

Enough , no more to and fro exchanges. check morality in at the door when coming into the killing fields here.

on the palmyra sector, tiger forces have pushed ahead of Arak and T2 pumping station and fighting the ISIS units there. I think these would be lightly defended screens for the real defences at Al Sukhnah so might be captured soon.

T3 has a airbase, similar to T4 which is west of palmyra and hence is a vital objective to arrange for air cover and supplies in that vast region. not even IA could garrison every miles of these lonesome roads , so observation post and air support is important to restrict ISIS raiding parties. same goes for the mountains north of palmyra for OP use.

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Postby Singha » 22 Apr 2016 08:21

T3 has a airbase...ok for helicopters to operate from and maybe even FARP for Frogfoots doing the lords work

https://www.google.co.in/maps/@34.52980 ... !1e3?hl=en

this is the must bigger T4 base west of palmyra which held out against IS advances
https://www.google.co.in/maps/@34.53357 ... !1e3?hl=en

further south east about 60km from euphrates on the iraqi border south of deir azzor, is the T2 pumping station.....
https://www.google.co.in/maps/@34.37560 ... !1e3?hl=en

if the road from Sukhanah to Deir is bleak, the pipeline road from T3 to T2 is beyond bleak....one could walk for days and see no human or animal in there. could be a good base if someone had a parachute brigade. alight there and roll upto to deir from the south and launch lightning helicopter gunships at night at all points on the compass.

i guess they will capture T3 and use that to turn the flank of al sukhnah from the south and east...and then move on deir.

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Postby Singha » 22 Apr 2016 08:46

A surge of bloody assassinations have recently swept the northern city of Idlib , leaving scores of warlords drown in their blood, and sparking a potential in-fight among the Islamist factions controlling the city. Earlier on Thursday morning, unknown assailants have shot dead the prominent leader of Free Syrian Army’s (FSA) 1st Coastal Division ‘Imad Tabak’, in Jisr al-Shughur city western Idlib. Elsewhere in the countryside of Idlib, Harakat Ahrar Al-Sham claimed to have captured “pro-ISIS” sleeper cells, that had carried out several assassination operations by planting Improvised Explosives Devices (IEDs). Last Tuesday, According to rebels sources in Idlib city, an IED-planted motorcycle exploded in a crowded street that killed 3 boys. “Unknown militants have killed judge Sheikh Safar Al-Safer by shooting him directly in front of his home in the town of Khan Assubul, in the countryside of Idlib” a pro-rebel source reported. “They also assassinated -on January- senior commander of Harakat Ahara Al-Sham, Abdul Qadir Dhabaan nicknamed as (Abu Tamim), by planting an explosive device in his car”, the same source added.

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/is ... ias-idlib/ | Al-Masdar News

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Postby Singha » 22 Apr 2016 08:50

^^ IS did the same thing to the FSA in the east when it surged into syria..FSA was routed and chased out of places like deir and raqqa.

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Postby Singha » 22 Apr 2016 08:53

The Syrian and Russian air forces carried out a powerful series of airstrikes on Thursday evening that targeted the Islamic State of Iraq and Al-Sham’s (ISIS) defensive positions in the Maskanah Plains of east Aleppo and west Al-Raqqa. According to a military source in Latakia, the Syrian and Russian air forces killed an estimated 40 ISIS fighters in the Maskanah Plains, while also destroying number of hideouts used by the terrorist group to attack the nearby Khanasser Plains of east Aleppo. With the recent arrival of reinforcements to the east Homs front, the Syrian and Russian air forces have intensified their airstrikes over east Aleppo and west Al-Raqqa in order to weaken the ISIS’ supply route to the Palmyra countryside.

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/sc ... st-aleppo/ | Al-Masdar News

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Postby Singha » 22 Apr 2016 10:30

civil war between pro-Assad assyrian christian militias and kurdish police. so far SAA and YPG not involved.
this is near hasakah in NE.

On Thursday evening, the Arab tribes from the National Defense Forces (NDF) and the Assyrian “Gozarto Protection Forces” (GPF) captured several sites in Qamishli after a flurry of violent clashes with the Asayish (Kurdish police) units near the military airport. According to a military source in Qamishli, the NDF and GPF captured the Abu Raghab and Kurayrish checkpoints from the Asayish after launching a counter-assault on Thursday evening. Following the capture of the aforementioned checkpoints, the NDF and GPF regained control over the Al-Salaam Hospital and the Municipal Stadium, which reversed the Asayish’s gains inside the city. With the recent escalation in violence, a number of civic leaders have called for both parties to cease the violence that has cost the lives of several civilians. Representatives from the Syrian government and the PYD regime are meeting this morning in order to negotiate a final ceasefire inside of Qamishli – no further details were given.

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/go ... -qamishli/ | Al-Masdar News

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Postby Singha » 22 Apr 2016 10:32

^ the arab tribes in the east and the kurds have a very wary relationship.
and the assyrians have not forgotten some of the kurds were part and parcel of their turkish led extermination in the genocide a century ago.
the arabs had then helped them to extent possible under turkish boots.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby deejay » 22 Apr 2016 10:41

^^^ Damascus has moved some Republican Guard units to Hasakah overnight by air to cover for any major flare up. ISIS, opportunistic as always reportedly moving convoys of rats towards Shadadi.

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Many local reports indicating of a large #IS military convoy just started from Mayadin in #DeirEzzor
Heading up north towards #shadadi

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby deejay » 22 Apr 2016 10:43

02 more mass graves found in Iraq.

Haidar Sumeri ‏@IraqiSecurity now6 hours ago
2 mass graves found by #Iraq's forces in central Ramadi. Children and women amongst the corpses. Executed by Da'ish.


Pics in link (graphic)
https://twitter.com/IraqiSecurity/status/723239545785987072

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Postby Singha » 22 Apr 2016 11:10

deejay wrote:^^^ Damascus has moved some Republican Guard units to Hasakah overnight by air to cover for any major flare up. ISIS, opportunistic as always reportedly moving convoys of rats towards Shadadi.

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Many local reports indicating of a large #IS military convoy just started from Mayadin in #DeirEzzor
Heading up north towards #shadadi


ISIS has already preceded that with a car bomb that killed some 15 kurd soldiers around qamishli somewhere.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 22 Apr 2016 11:26

saw a ridley scott movie last night about balian of ibelin and the whole crusader vs saladdin thing over jerusalem
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saladin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Hattin

the so called euro christian "knights" were way more jihadi than the muslims in looting, plungdering and murdering against the local muslims and jews. one particularly notorious individual who seemed partially demented or a psychopath https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raynald_of_Ch%C3%A2tillon was in it for the fun of things and murdered saladdins sister as well when he raided a convoy. later on saladdin personally executed him for his crimes and put his head on a stick while sparing the life of his defeated monarch Guy of lusignan.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Philip » 22 Apr 2016 11:35

The shadow of the Arab/Palestinian-Israeli conflict over the US pres. election.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/fin ... 94156.html
Finally, Israel and Palestine is a US election issue. The ‘last taboo’ is not broken, but it’s splintering
An America which can stomach the anger of its Arab allies is in no mood to suffer the humiliations of Israel either

Robert Fisk

'The umbilical cord between Washington and Tel Aviv remains. But in future, it may not be free of charge' AP
Edward Said, 13 years dead but intellectually un-buriable, used to say that there was only one “last taboo” in the United States. You could talk about blacks, gays – pretty much anything you wanted – the Palestinian scholar, linguist, historian and musician would tell us. But you can’t talk about America and Israel. Not, at least, in any critical sense.

But here we are in an American election year and Bernie Sanders is calling for a more “even-handed” approach to the Palestinians; Vice President Joe Biden has expressed his “overwhelming frustration” with Benjamin Netanyahu; even Hillary Clinton – who, of course, is going to be the next US President – has managed (just) to refer to “damaging actions” by Israel, “including with respect to settlements”.

Not exactly earth-shattering stuff, and they’ve all uttered the usual prayers. America is committed to Israel’s security which is “non-negotiable” (Clinton) and the US is Israel’s “only absolute friend” (Biden). The future President Clinton picked up 56 rounds of applause when she addressed Aipac, Israel’s most powerful lobbyists, in New York last month – that’s 18 more rounds than Netanyahu got when he addressed Congress a year ago, but he also received 23 standing ovations from the would-be Knesset members who represent American voters.

Let’s not get romantic. La Clinton even offered “a new 10-year defence memorandum of understanding” with Israel to Aipac, made the usual references to “Palestinian terrorists” and “Iran’s continued aggression”, and repeated the mantra that “Israel and America are seen as a light unto the nations” – albeit not, perhaps, unto the Palestinian ‘nation’.

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“I would vigorously oppose any attempt by outside parties,” she announced, “to impose a solution, including by the UN Security Council”. In other words, goodbye to UN Security Council Resolution 242 – Israeli withdrawal from territories occupied in 1967 – which was supposed to be the foundation stone of the whole wretched peace process.

Yet the shift in emphasis is clearly there. Sanders is Jewish – his father was an immigrant from eastern Europe – and most of his family died in the Nazi Holocaust. You might expect he would try to outgun Hillary in her support for Israel. Yet he accused her of devoting “only one sentence... that even mentioned the Palestinian people” in her Aipac hug-in, only “one line on the Palestinian people”.

This was not strictly accurate, although a close reading of La Clinton’s text shows that her references to Palestinians were more in the form of an appendage to Israeli security than a denunciation of Palestinian “suffering” – a word that Sanders has actually used about the occupied Arabs of Palestine.

Bernie believes “Israel must have the right to exist in peace and security, just as the Palestinians must have the right to a homeland in which they and they alone control their political system and their economy”. To that extent, it’s the usual stuff: no mention of Palestinian security – that will be left to Israel – but they can do what they like inside their pathetic little “homeland”.

Where Bernie has stuck out, however, is in his condemnation of Israel’s “targeted killings” (or, political murders), “further Israeli settlements on Palestinian land” (or, colonies) and “the destruction of Palestinian homes...,” Israel’s attacks on Palestinians have been “reprehensible”, he says.

He may not have called a spade a spade, but he got it right. He was the first US senator to refuse to attend Netanyahu’s speech to the joint session of Congress last year, saying that the Israeli prime minister “inappropriately used the appearance for his own political purposes”.

Joe Biden might not have quite the same heft. He’s been used before as the silly mid-off to defend Obama, deniable and jokey but still his master’s voice. He warned that “the present course Israel’s on is not one that’s likely to secure its existence as a Jewish, democratic state... we have to make sure they understand that we understand... where the ultimate solution lies.”

Translated, this means what the US administration has been telling ‘J-Street’ and other moderate American supporters of Israel: that if Netanyahu and his cabinet members continue to steal Arab land and gobble up the West Bank, they have either got to give occupied Arabs the vote – in which case, goodbye to Israel – or they’ve got to run an apartheid state in which the majority Arabs are denied the vote.

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Beneath this verbal concern lies the growing success of the boycott movement (or the ‘de-legitimisation of Israel’ as it is called by Netanyahu – the man who is doing more than anyone else to de-legitimise Israel) and the equally growing disenchantment of Jewish Americans with an Israel which looks less and less like a light unto anyone’s nation.

What is left of the Left in Israel takes a very worrying view of the boycott campaign, but far more serious in the long term is Washington’s growing disenchantment with the Middle East.

The Saudis are being ditched in favour of the Iranians (the Saudis and Israel both loath Tehran) and an America which can stomach the anger of Arab allies of 70 years’ standing is clearly in no mood to suffer the humiliations of Israel forever.

No, the ‘last taboo’ has not been broken. The umbilical cord between Washington and Tel Aviv remains. But in future, it may not be free of charge.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 22 Apr 2016 12:58

the template for various bands of euro bandits and adventurers to use the garb of religion to take over lands far away was well honed in the crusades

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_ ... E2%80%9391)

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Lalmohan » 22 Apr 2016 13:33

the film you mention actually does a good job of showing the christian jehadis in full foaming ferment
there is one scene in the council chamber where one priest/knight starts hopping around in his excitement of waging holy war all over the place

i think any crusader king/chief had his hands full keeping the different bands together and on-mission. probably goes back to older tribal/feudal rivalries over several centuries

the green team had the same issues

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby habal » 22 Apr 2016 15:13

try not to spill yer coffe o'er da keyboaard


Ron Paul Liberty Report - Collateral Damage - Obama OKs More Civilian Drone Deaths

President Obama approved new rules that allow ten civilians to be killed for every drone strike in the seven countries the US is currently bombing.

Also, he returned to the use of "signature strikes" which target not terrorists, but behaviors and personal attributes.

desperation over a failed foreign policy pushing Washington to outright murder?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpsYAevTUm0

Yuuck.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby habal » 22 Apr 2016 15:14

this comes from leader of double-speak'ers

Obama Admits President Assad is NOT an Enemy Of The United States

Here's the full interview:

https://charlierose.com/videos/26938?autoplay=true

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby habal » 22 Apr 2016 15:27

SuperStation95 95.1-FM

New York, NY USA

Putin Orders Russian Troops To Seal Border Between Syria and Turkey

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- Apr 18, 2016

Putin Orders Russian Troops To Seal Border Between Syria and Turkey
In a shocking move, Russian President Vladimir Putin has ordered Russian troops inside Syria, to seal the Syrian border with Turkey. This is going to cause HUGE trouble.

Turkey has been profiting by allowing oil, stolen from Syria by ISIS terrorists, to be smuggled into Turkey via convoys of oil tanker trucks. Once the tankers arrive in Turkey, the oil is slightly refined, re-packaged to look legitimate, then sold cheap on the open market. This theft and smuggling nets ISIS about $100 Million per month, which funds its terror operations. Of course, Turkish officials get their palms greased as well, for allowing the smuggling to take place. Chief among those getting their beak wet is Turkish President Recypt Erdogan and his sons.

In addition to now cutting off ISIS money - and Turkey's illicit profits -- this border closure will stop the flow of weapons into Syria. Weapons supplied paid for by Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain and supplied to ISIS and Al Qaida inside Syria via Turkey, designed to overthrow the Syrian President Bashar Al Assad.

This move by Putin amounts to "check-mate" against the coalition that has been trying for four years to overthrow the government of Syria. That coalition includes the USA.

This totally unexpected move comes on the heels of a negotiated cease-fire which very much calmed fighting throughout Syria. But in that time of cease fire, vast quantities of weapons and ammunition were shipped into Syria from Turkey, and ISIS has now escalated its fighting, re-taking portions of Syria previously liberated by Syrian and Russian troops. Rather than fight such battles over again, Putin has ordered the border sealed.

This is a very dangerous situation now, because Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain, the USA and UK (among others) have now been halted in their efforts to overthrow Syria's government. They now have three choices:

1) Try to run the border closing and get fired upon by Russian and Syrian troops, OR;

2) Engage in overt, open warfare to battle it out, OR;

3) Accept defeat.


https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/money/1184

Kinda confirming the news

turkey's response

Hürriyet Daily News
LEADING NEWS SOURCE FOR TURKEY AND THE REGION
April 20 2016, Your time is 2:07:05 PM
Turkish PM responds to Obama, Putin over Syrian border remarks

ANKARA

Other countries’ statements about Turkey’s border with Syria “have no meaning,” Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu has said, in response to Russian President Vladimir Putin’s call to U.S. President Barack Obama regarding the sealing of the Turkey-Syria border.

Speaking at a press conference before departing for Strasbourg, Davutoğlu said on April 18 that Obama and Putin talking about the Syrian-Turkish border – behind closed doors and in the absence of Turkey - was meaningless.

Turkey is the only authority “to decide on the final decision about its borders,” he said.

Putin and Obama talked on the phone early on April 18, during which Putin urged the closure of the border between Syria and Turkey where “supplies of arms for extremists” were making their way in, the Kremlin said in a written statement.

Russia and Turkey are on opposite sides of the more-than-five-year-long war in Syria. While Russia is one of the main supporters of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, Turkey and the U.S. oppose al-Assad staying in power.

Davutoğlu said Turkey’s borders have “only been open to migrants” over the course of the five years.

“Considering the migrants that Turkey is hosting, the world only owes a thank you to Turkey. It is nobody’s right to bring Turkey to account,” said Davutoğlu.

The Kremlin’s statement also said Obama and Putin agreed on the phone to strengthen a Syrian cease-fire brokered by their two nations.

“The leaders discussed in detail the situation in Syria, confirming in particular their intention to facilitate the strengthening of a Russian-U.S. initiated ceasefire in this country as well as access for humanitarian aid,” it said.

Putin also stressed the need for “moderate” rebels to distance themselves from the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) and jihadists of the al-Nusra Front.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby UlanBatori » 22 Apr 2016 15:55

Code: Select all

Putin Orders Russian Troops To Seal Border Between Syria and Turkey

US and Russia discussing Turkey w/o turkeys present

So that IS where the parachute regiment was going - or perhaps they are being held in reserve to see if Erdogan dares to act against Russian ground forces on the Turkey border - to give him something to think about in Constantingrad. Finally Putin is moving the expected chess pieces. Without closing the Turkey border there is no way to stop ISIS resupply - and escape. Maybe even AlObama has accepted this, implying that air strikes inside Turkey are not going to bring NATO reaction. A lot of Turkish artillery pieces are going to be in pieces.

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Postby habal » 22 Apr 2016 16:04

South Front - Another T-90 survives a missile hit in Syria

https://southfront.org/another-t-90-sur ... -in-syria/

The news and photos of a Russian-made T-90 MBT following a direct hit by an anti-tank guided missile have been posted on a number of Russian news outlets and blogs. The tank’s frontal turret armor indicates it’s the newer T-90A with a welded turret and thicker frontal surfaces.

The missile’s explosion clearly detonated at least one of the Kontakt-5 reactive armor panels and destroyed and damaged a number of surface fittings including the Shtora ECM system.

The tank appears to have remained operational, though the gunner’s primary sight and thermal camera seem to have been damaged by the explosion.
There are no additional details concerning where, when, and with what weapon the T-90A was attacked.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby habal » 22 Apr 2016 16:26

isis is selling organs of it's fallen. some hard times these

The ISIL (Daesh, ISIS, IS) Takfiri terrorist group has boosted its organ trade by killing its own militants who have been injured in heavy clashes with the Syrian government troops and popular forces in order to sell their body organs, media reports said. The terrorist group is using organ harvesting as a way to finance its operations and save the lives of injured members, media reports said on Tuesday.

https://www.rt.com/news/340494-isis-org ... -fighters/

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby habal » 22 Apr 2016 16:33

Ron Paul Liberty Report - Saudi Regime To John Kerry: We Created ISIS...And CIA Knew

Streamed live 5 hours ago

The Saudi regime have been forthcoming lately about their involvement in the creation and funding of ISIS.

But as with the US creation of the Mujahedin [al-Qaeda] in Afghanistan in the 1980's, there was plenty of US support.

Intervention blowback continues...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm5fRu9xJI8

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby rsingh » 22 Apr 2016 16:35

habal wrote:try not to spill yer coffe o'er da keyboaard


Ron Paul Liberty Report - Collateral Damage - Obama OKs More Civilian Drone Deaths

President Obama approved new rules that allow ten civilians to be killed for every drone strike in the seven countries the US is currently bombing.

Also, he returned to the use of "signature strikes" which target not terrorists, but behaviors and personal attributes.

desperation over a failed foreign policy pushing Washington to outright murder?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpsYAevTUm0

Yuuck.


So drone operator has to know beforehand how many people will be killed and injured? wah ji wah.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 22 Apr 2016 17:45

I can.understand potus candidates having to swear fealty to christianity to gain acceptance with voters

What i cannot understand is why they need to swear undying fealty to israel ? It should be other way around
Israel is afloat by American aid on all fronts not vice versa.

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Postby habal » 22 Apr 2016 18:23

It is a code I think that their fealty is to the deep state. Yet, people pretend not to understand the nature of the state.

but it is getting more difficult to even pretend not to understand these days.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 22 Apr 2016 20:01

Everyone from egypt to ksa lives on american baksheesh but israel alone, belying its puny size exercises a strange hypnotic power on the us political elite and potus.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Karthik S » 22 Apr 2016 20:12

It's because of their lobby. Their tiny community contributed a lot to the US economy, remove the firms established by yahoodis and see what the corporate US will look like.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Y. Kanan » 23 Apr 2016 00:19

Karthik S wrote:It's because of their lobby. Their tiny community contributed a lot to the US economy, remove the firms established by yahoodis and see what the corporate US will look like.


No it's because Jews own all the US banks (and most of the European ones) and virtually the entire US media as well. Pretty simple equation, actually.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby UlanBatori » 23 Apr 2016 00:21

For once I must say the ISIS shows some class
"I tried to initiate peace talks with the ISIS recently but they sent me a photograph of a beheaded body of a man. Thus, my effort for a peace dialogue with the ISIS ended,"

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Suresh S » 23 Apr 2016 01:58

No it's because Jews own all the US banks (and most of the European ones) and virtually the entire US media as well. Pretty simple equation, actually.

When I was young I thought US controlled Israel but after over 2 decades in NY and living and working with these people on a daily basis reality is just the opposite. It is Israel that controls US. kanan seems to understand this. I would go on to say that to understand this world and it,s history of at least the last hundred years it is almost necessary to live and work with these people for at least a decade in NY, after that with average intelligence and and willingness to think independantly and critically anyone should be able to understand this world.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 23 Apr 2016 08:56

tiger forces continue to clean up pockets of rats in the rugged mountains north of palmyra and pressing on with the fight in Arak and T3 pumping station.

picture should be more clear in a week if IS is able to hold these areas or falls back to Sukhanah. the road goes NE to Sukhanah and then turns 90' to go SE to Deir...which offers an opportunity to cut across the desert and block both the roads south of sukhanah, render it irrelevant and press on to deir via their short cut while keeping sukhanah garrison busy with holding attacks.

IS does seem to have a incredible number of men at arms if we consider they are fighting in azaz-mare-al rai area, defending in depth in Al bab-Deir hafr, defending Tabqah-Ithriyah road, defending in Sukhanah-arak-T3, encircling Deir azzor, defending Falluja, defending Mosul and the lands west of it, trying to retake shahdadi, and a screen around Raqqa and Manbij......either the IS is very strong or their opponents rather weak in logistics and manpower if they cannot be uprooted and crushed like the vine they area.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 23 Apr 2016 10:54

At a mil base north of palmyra

Ru MoD claimed that a gigantic warehouse filled to the brim with munitions including 12k pieces of explosive stuff: mortar mines, arty shells, IEDs, detonators, landmines, has been discovered in Palmyra just now. It was hidden quite well and guarded by nine planted HE traps.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 23 Apr 2016 10:55

Some claim 7 such storage bases in palmyra have been captured in the hills to north

A centrally located arsenal of the jihad

Must be in caves or abandoned saa bases with munition bunkers

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 23 Apr 2016 13:47

The Russian Air Force’s MI-28NE (Night Hunter) attack helicopters have been a godsend for the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) infantry units operating inside the vast Syrian Desert in east Homs. Why exactly? Well, the Syrian Armed Forces no longer needs to wait until dusk to attack the Islamic State of Iraq and Al-Sham’s (ISIS) defenses; instead, they can strike the aforementioned terrorist group during the twilight hours, thanks in large part to the air cover they receive from the Russian attack helicopters. When the Syrian Armed Forces liberated the ancient city of Palmyra (Tadmur) from ISIS in late March 2016, they were able to advance each night because of the Russian Air Force’s advanced technology that picked off the enemy defenders before the infantry units attacked. The same situation is happening in northern Palmyra right now. Each night, the Russian attack helicopters lead the attack on the ISIS controlled sites in the Palmyra countryside, paving the way for the Tiger Forces to capture well-fortified areas. Without these Russian choppers, the Syrian Armed Forces would be charging ISIS’ defenses in a wide open desert that is very difficult to advance inside of; but, the table has turned now. Every Syrian Army advance in east Homs is backed by a Russian chopper that is weakening the terrorist group’s resistance.

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/ru ... r-palmyra/ | Al-Masdar News

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Paul » 23 Apr 2016 17:05

Do not under estimate the commitment of Raymond of Chantillon to the Crusader cause. He and Saladin had a Dharmendra-Gabbar feud running over the years.

He even was contemplating a raid on Mecca.

Ridley Scott's movie when it came out was vetted by CAIR and duly blessed as a good Dhimmified movie in 2004.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby vishvak » 23 Apr 2016 17:32

Paul wrote:Do not under estimate the commitment of Raymond of Chantillon to the Crusader cause. He and Saladin had a Dharmendra-Gabbar feud running over the years.

He even was contemplating a raid on Mecca.

Ridley Scott's movie when it came out was vetted by CAIR and duly blessed as a good Dhimmified movie in 2004.

Makes a lot of sense about terrorism in Kashmir is called jehad, and not terrorism.
See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gis8ulrsg1o yotoob video, 4:15 onwards.
Difference between terrorism and jihad by a sufi maulana.

Not sure but prolly such ulta logic might be bought and sold in 'international' realpolitik to hoodwink Indians. This BS about jihad is not terrorism makes support of terrorism in Kashmir as legit cause to make monies out of genociding Hindus.

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Re: Levant crisis - III

Postby Singha » 23 Apr 2016 19:56

French film shows western jtac with ypg during shahdadi attack, guiding a a10 strike and later taking out vbied using javelin atgm

https://youtu.be/0hHCfGH9WkA


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