Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2

Postby SSridhar » 22 Jun 2016 11:26

Hilarious.

Pakistan's tactic has been to piggyback on India and get things effortlessly for itself. Without taking part in freedom fighting the Muslim League leaders obtained a country for themselves based on the sacrifices of those Indians who remained in India. By using India as a bargaining chip, Pakistan hoodwinked the Western nations into an alliance and benefits. It used the same approach with China to even greater benefits. It piggybacked on Paokhran II to fraudulently claim a nuclear-power status.It is angling for NSG admission using the same route.

Pakistan knows it cannot get a waiver similar to India from the and the only way was for it to become a full-fledged NSG member.

India must suggest to China that it must take up the case for a waiver for Pakistan from NSG first and then go for membership.

Pakistan opposes ‘exclusive Indian membership’ of NSG - Daily Times
Strategic Vision Institute (SVI) on Tuesday noted that the membership of Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG) was a socioeconomic and technological imperative for Pakistan and the government needed to develop a long-term strategy for access to civilian nuclear energy technology and entry into export control regimes. SVI, a think tank specialising in nuclear issues, made these recommendations ahead of a roundtable discussion on the Implications of NSG Plenary Session being held on June 23-24, 2016, in Seoul for Pakistan.

The officials’ level meeting of the NSG session has already begun. The meeting is expected to consider the issue of admission of non-NPT states into the 48-member cartel that regulates the international nuclear trade. {There is no such expectation. That is only a demand by China} The think tank further noted that NSG membership was not just a matter of prestige for Pakistan. It cautioned that India’s admission into NSG, without Pakistan getting the same, would affect the region’s strategic stability, renew arms race, and enable India to affect the ‘legitimate’ civilian nuclear energy cooperation between Pakistan and China. SVI further feared that India’s entry into the club would make it more arrogant and aggressive in its dealings with the neighbours.

The think tank warned that anti-Americanism in Pakistan could rise if the US managed membership for India through coercive diplomacy. Former United Nations permanent representative in Geneva Amb Zamir Akram, who is also an expert on nuclear issues, while chairing the session said that Pakistan is opposed to ‘exclusive Indian membership’ of NSG. Pakistan, he noted, was instead in favour of developing criteria that could be uniformly and transparently applied to all countries aspiring to become NSG members. Akram observed that an ‘unbridled India in NSG’ would increase its nuclear arsenal at a greater pace and magnitude than it did after the 2008 waiver.

Hence, he added, security concerns would grow for Pakistan. SVI President Dr Zafar Iqbal Cheema said that India’s alone entry into NSG would put back Pakistani efforts for developing its infrastructure and industry by decades. :lol: Therefore, he maintained, such an eventuality would have serious consequences for national security and economic and industrial development. He observed that India was one of the worst proliferators, but Pakistan could not capitalise on it. He recalled that India once had scornful disdain for non-proliferation regimes, which has now been conveniently forgotten by the world. Another expert, Zahir Kazmi, worried that if India becomes an NSG member, it would not only veto Pakistani application for admission, but would also affect limited legal cooperation with China.

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Postby SSridhar » 22 Jun 2016 11:35

Image is the only problem for Pakistan and if that is tackled everything will be all right. Pakistan needs PR for a cricket tour now!

Pakistan Cricket Board not to hire PR firm in England for positive coverage for upcoming series !
The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) has dropped the idea of hiring a public relations firm in England to ensure positive coverage of the national team during its series in England this summer. According to an official source in the board, PCB chairman Shaharyar Khan and the team management will now interact with the media in England and collectively try to ensure a controversy-free series for Pakistan. “Shaharyar himself is a former career diplomat and the board will be sending its general manager media Agha Akbar with the team for the Tests. Akbar, along with manager Intikhab Alam, will be looking after the media affairs and issues to ensure the team does not get a hostile press or reception in the series,” the source said. He said the PCB had initially tried to hire a foreign media professional to work as media manager of the team in England but after he turned down the offer an approach was made to another foreigner but he was also not available.

“There was a suggestion to hire a public relations firm in England to look after the interests of the Pakistan team and cricket on the two and half month long tour but this was a very expensive exercise for the PCB which is already struggling financially so the idea has been dropped.” He said the PCB was concerned about the coverage and reception the team would get in England because of past incidents and controversies, especially the 2010 spot-fixing scandal. The source said Shaharyar would remain in England until July as he had gone to London for his annual vacations. “He will be in touch with the team management and media manager to ensure nothing goes wrong.”

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Postby partha » 22 Jun 2016 11:46

SSridhar wrote:Hilarious.

Pakistan opposes ‘exclusive Indian membership’ of NSG - Daily Times

The think tank warned that anti-Americanism in Pakistan could rise if the US managed membership for India through coercive diplomacy.

I wonder what could happen? American business outlets like KFC could be set of fire, US flags could be burned on the streets, Pak Army could turn rogue and hide America's most wanted man in its safe house, Paki proxies could hurt US interests in Afghanistan..what else?

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Postby SSridhar » 22 Jun 2016 14:21

Pakistan upping the ante on NSG, US & India.

US support for India's NSG bid part of greater design to contain China: Pakistan NSA Nasser Janjua - PTI
Pakistan's National Security Adviser Nasser Janjua has alleged that America's efforts to include India in the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG) was part of a "greater design" to contain China and prevent the resurgence of Russia.

"It's [part of] a greater design," Janjua said
at a seminar on 'Pakistan's case for NSA membership' yesterday.

Janjua said the current move by the us to induct India into the 48-nation exclusive nuclear club should be seen in the context of 'global power politics trends'.

He then listed "contain China, prevent the resurgence of Russia and keep the Muslim world in a controlled chaos" as some of the leading trends in the current global power politics, The Express Tribune reported.

The paper reported that it is unprecedented that a top Pakistani official publicly made such a candid statement about a sensitive issue.


Talking about the implications of these developments, Janjua cautioned that American policies would ultimately bring Pakistan even closer to China.

Pakistan is upset at the US decision to aggressively campaign for India while ignoring Islamabad's aspirations to become an NSG member, the paper said.

Last month, Pakistan formally applied for NSG membership, setting the stage for a showdown with India at the elite grouping's plenary session Seoul.

The campaign for India's membership into the group is seen as carrying the risk of antagonising Pakistan as well as China, which could veto any India's application, the paper said.

Pakistan fears that the induction of India into the NSG would disturb strategic balance and trigger a new arms race in South Asia, according to the paper.

Meanwhile, Pakistan's former permanent representative at the UN in Geneva Zamir Akram said that Pakistan was only opposed to "exclusive membership" of the NSG for India.

He was speaking at a seminar organised yesterday by the Strategic Vision Institute (SVI), a think-tank, in Islamabad.

Dawn reported that Akram's comments follow remarks by Indian Foreign Minister Sushma Swaraj that India does not object to any country, including Pakistan, joining the NSG on merit.

"Pakistan supports the evolution of criteria that can be applied across the board," Akram said.

The Indian and Pakistani comments suggest that their respective campaigns for NSG entry had boiled down to 'merit' versus 'criteria', the paper said.

Akram warned about the likely implications of a scenario in which India alone was admitted into the NSG, include dimming of future prospects for Pakistan's entry into the club and likely growth in India's nuclear arsenal.

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Postby SSridhar » 22 Jun 2016 14:24

Various Pakistani leaders, officials have started threatening the US. Does US have the ability to stay the course or will its usual weak-kneed approach to Pakistan lead it wilt once again under pressure? Its reaction to Janjua's aggressive speech will be an indicator.

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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/pakistan/Pakistan-is-selling-nuclear-materials-to-N-Korea-and-China-knows-it-US-sources-say/articleshow/52867989.cms

WASHINGTON DC: Pakistan is continuing to sell nuclear materials to North Korea, even as its urging the international community to accept its membership to the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG), said highly placed U.S. sources who track nuclear commerce.
These sources said the Pakistan Energy Commission (PAEC) has been continuing to supply restricted items like 'Monel' and 'Inconel' material to North Korea in violation of UN sanctions.
They added that that nuclear materials supplied to the PAEC by Chinese entities have also found their way to North Korea, and that the China Atomic Energy Authority (CAEA) recently received a written complaint that supplies of a Chinese company, Beijing Suntech Technology Co. Ltd, were being diverted to North Korea by the Pakistani authorities.
The Chinese government hushed up the matter as it could have consequences for Beijing's bid to support Pakistan at the NSG.
But this information leaked out of North Korea and came to the knowledge Of Western governments who are members of the NSG.
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In another alarming revelation, informed sources said Pakistan has been giving North Korea equipment which has a direct bearing on producing nuclear weapons. Sources said Beijing Suntech manufactures Vacuum Induction Melting (VIM) furnaces that find application in refining hard metals such as uranium and plutonium, which are used in making nuclear warhead cores. Pakistan is known to have procured these items from China and has passed them along to North Korea.
When asked if this evidence of Pakistan's illicit nuclear trade with North Korea has been brought to the notice of NSG nations, U.S. sources said all proof and evidence which confirms the violation of sanctions against North Korea and more so the ongoing dangerous nuclear trade has been brought to the notice of "those who need to be informed at the NSG level."
Behind the scenes Pakistan is aware that it's nuclear trade with North Korea has been uncovered, but is counting on China to keep the global pressure at bay, said sources.
Giving details of North Korea's nuclear commerce links with Pakistan, informed sources mentioned that two North Korean diplomats - Kim Yong Choi and Jang Yong Son --posted in the North Korean Embassy in Tehran visited Pakistan eight times between 2012 and 2015. They were associated With the Korea Mining Development Trading Corporation ( KOMID ) - an entity sanctioned several times by the United Nations Security Council since 2005 for its involvement in North Korea's Weapons of Mass Destruction ( WMD ) programme.
These diplomats met with Pakistani officers involved in the nuclear program. They were tracked and investigated by the Western authorities as yet another proof of Pakistan's continuing nuclear links with North Korea.
Based on Western inputs on these links, the United Nations Security Council (UNSC) 1718 Committee, which is monitoring the implementation of sanctions against North Korea, sought information from Pakistan in November 2015 regarding the frequent visits of the two North Korean diplomats from Tehran to Islamabad and Karachi {Why not against Pakistan?? hain jee}
t first, say informed sources, Pakistan denied it, but when confronted with photographs and other recorded evidence, Pakistan acknowledged that the two North Korean officials under investigation had indeed visited Islamabad and Karachi.
Highly placed sources said that the West has so far kept this information under wraps in recognition of Pakistan's value in the war against terror. {oho again WoT}
But now, when Pakistan has gone into overdrive to upset the equilibrium of the NSG, Western nations of the grouping are saying that Islamabad needs to "look at itself in the mirror " and ask "how can it run with the hare and hunt with the foxes", meaning it can't claim to fulfill the NSG's requirements, and at the same time, sell nuclear weapons materials to North Korea.

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Postby CRamS » 22 Jun 2016 15:50

SSridhar wrote:Various Pakistani leaders, officials have started threatening the US. Does US have the ability to stay the course or will its usual weak-kneed approach to Pakistan lead it wilt once again under pressure? Its reaction to Janjua's aggressive speech will be an indicator.


Indeed. But it will be a shame if in the end all kinds of compromises are struck to let India in, and also keep this terrorist abomination happy. Like you pointed out earlier, TSP has pegged itself so much on the back of India, that by its sheer nuisance value thuggery, it piggy backs on India without having to work hard.

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Postby Falijee » 22 Jun 2016 16:03

"Action" In "Holy" Month Of Ramzan: Famed Qawwal Amjad Sabri Shot Dead In Karachi !

Famed qawwal Amjad Sabri gunned down in Karachi

KARACHI: Renowned Qawwal Amjad Sabri was shot dead in Karachi Wednesday afternoon, after unknown gunmen fired at his vehicle in the city's Liaquatabad area.
Additional Inspector General Mushtaq Mehar told Dawn that two men riding a motorcycle fired shots at the car, terming the incident as “targeted killing.”
Sabri, 45, and an associate were travelling in a car in Liquatabad 10 area, when unidentified gunmen fired at their vehicle, critically injuring him. The two were shifted to Abbasi Shaheed hospital immediately, where Sabri succumbed to his injuries.

Hope RAA is not blamed for this act !
Amjad Sabri was one of the country’s finest qawwals, known for his soul-stirring renditions of mystic poetry. He enthralled music aficionados with his brand of spirituality, mysticism and ecstasy for years. He was not only well-versed with the structure and aesthetics of qawwali but also knew how to make it adaptive to the contemporary music keeping its essence alive.

Maybe, he was not "green enough" for some faithfools!
Amjad Sabri was the nephew of qawwali icon Maqbool Sabri who passed away in 2011.

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Postby Peregrine » 22 Jun 2016 16:40


Falijee Ji :

The Sabris seem to be staunch Sunnis and it is possible that this is a case of "Sectarian Slaughter"
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Postby habal » 22 Jun 2016 17:40

Chief Justice of Sindh high court's son was kidnapped in broad daylight from a department store by 3-4 people in a get away vehicle disguised as a police car. It is now 30 hours and there is no clue as to where he is.

It seems certain anti-Pakistan forces are interested in harming Pakistan, and turning clock back in Karachi. It could not have happened to a nicer peoples. First kidnapping and today contract killing.

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Postby ramana » 22 Jun 2016 19:14

SSridhar wrote:Various Pakistani leaders, officials have started threatening the US. Does US have the ability to stay the course or will its usual weak-kneed approach to Pakistan lead it wilt once again under pressure? Its reaction to Janjua's aggressive speech will be an indicator.



The Orlando Shooters links going no where is an indication of US mind right now.

Mohammed Malik is allover the TV and radio where he points out he did inform the govt. about Omar Mateen in 2014 specifically about his fascination with radical Islam. So its not like FBI developed the links by themselves. They closed the investigation again.

So could be they are incompetent which they are not or there was some other considerations.

I think India should inform US they are setting up NCG to get out of the Chinese tyranny.
Chinese can let whoever they want in the NSG proliferation network.

The above post of TSP supplying Chinese diverting/provided nickel alloys to North Korea is a clear sign of the proliferation network run by China.
China ships nuke materials to its pet snake TSP and they ship it to rogue North Korea and everybody claims they don't know.

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Postby Falijee » 22 Jun 2016 19:25

France supports India's NSG bid, urges members to take positive decision :D
Paris, June 22 (ANI): Supporting India's bid for the Nuclear Suppliers' Group (NSG) membership , France has called on the other members meeting in Seoul, South Korea, on June 23 to take a positive decision.
The French Ministry of Foreign Affairs in a statement said, "France considers that India's entry into the four multilateral export control regimes (NSG, Missile Technology Control Regime (MTCR), The Australia Group, The Wassenaar Arrangement) will bolster international efforts on combating proliferation."

Such "blatant partisanship" should not go unchallenged by Al - Bakistan! At the very least, they should protest, if not recall their ambassador from Isloo :mrgreen:

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Postby Falijee » 22 Jun 2016 19:41

US, Pakistan lock horns over Taliban chief Mansour's death

slamabad, June 22 (ANI): Washington has rejected Pakistan's notion that the death of Afghan Taliban chief Mullah Akhtar Mansour in a U.S. drone strike damaged prospects for reconciliation with the militant group.
Mansour was killed in a rare U.S. drone strike in Naushki district of Balochistan on May 21.

By doing this strike, Massa has given notice to Pakistan, that Balochistan is also "fair game" for the lethal "Amreeki eye in the sky"
Richard Olson, the U.S. Special Representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan, defending the drone strike said it was Taliban's repeated refusal to join talks with the Afghan government that the action was taken.
"Taliban's repeated refusal to join talks with the Afghan government contributed to US government's decision to take action against Mullah Mansour on May 21," the Express Tribune quoted him as saying.
"Some commentators have speculated that this strike represented a shift in US strategy or a weakening of our commitment towards peace process but it has not," he added.
Pointing out that Mansour was an obstacle to peace, Olson said the Taliban chief posed a continued threat to U.S. nationals through his support towards operations against U.S. forces.
He acknowledged that the conflict in Afghanistan cannot end through military solution and the future of the country will be decided through discussion, negotiation, and reconciliation.
Taking strong on the militant group he said, "Let me say that the Taliban are mistaken if they think they can wait for us to withdraw our support, believing that Afghan forces will become vulnerable to defeat as the international community disengages."
Pakistan's permanent Ambassador at the UN, Maleeha Lodhi informed the UN Security Council that United States drone attack that killed Taliban leader Mullah Akhtar Mohammad Mansour on the Pakistani territory was a violation of Pakistan's sovereignty and territorial integrity.:((

However, there were other press reports which suggested that the Pakistanis were not happy with Mansour and they themselves provided the Mullah's "travel plans" to Massa, to get rid of him
Lodhi pointed out that the use of force over the last 15 years had not led to peace. :roll:
Is she reading from a "prepared draft" ?
On a reply to remarks by Afghanistan's UN Ambassador Mahmoud Saikal accusing Islamabad of interference in his country's internal affairs and allowing anti-Afghan terrorist groups to operate from safe havens inside the Pakistani territory, she said the comments made by the former as unjustified and untrue and gratuitous on Pakistani institutions.
She asked Afghan Government not to externalize its internal problems and blame others for its own failures.(ANI)

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Postby Falijee » 22 Jun 2016 21:20

Taliban In Transition 2 ; Who Is "In Charge" Of Taliban Now?

Author: Borhan Osman
Date: 22 June 2016
The new Taleban leader, Mullah Haibatullah, is being closely scrutinised to see if he will try to shape the goals and methods of the insurgency. The question is not just whether he wants to, but if he can. Gone are the days when the amir of the Taleban, by mere virtue of his position, had absolute power. In this second dispatch on the new Taleban leadership, AAN’s Borhan Osman looks at the strength of other members of the leadership, the increasing role of the Rahbari Shura, and assesses Pakistan’s role in decision-making. He argues that Haibatullah will not find it easy to change policy on major issues without the backing of other key players.
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As "everyone" knows, the ultimate key player is the Pakistan ISI !
The Taleban are mourning their second leader in a year. Any hope that the loss of first Mullah Omar (his death was revealed in July 2015) and now Mullah Mansur (killed in an American drone strike in May 2016), would bring any let up in the fighting have proved vain. So also, has the prediction that a new person in place, intimidated by Mansur’s killing, would embrace the idea of peace talks. Neither has happened, at least, so far.
According to the most popular theory in Kabul, Islamabad is at the helm of the Taleban
s Pakistan in charge?
In assessing Pakistan’s role in Taleban decision-making, it is useful to bear in mind that ‘Pakistan’, in this context, may be understood more accurately to refer to the ISI and associated politicians who think the Taleban insurgency is beneficial to their nation. It is questionable whether Pakistan’s actual national interests are served by encouraging war in Afghanistan. That caveat aside, ‘Pakistan’ undoubtedly influences the Taleban in a number of complex ways, and vice versa, and the interests of the two converge in a number of respects. However, as far as Pakistan’s role in Taleban agenda-setting is concerned, examples from the interactions involving Islamabad’s attempts to get the Taleban to talks in recent years show that there are also important ways in which their goals diverge. This has resulted, at times, in tension or even outright animosity.
The Taleban have been using Pakistan as their rear base, supply hub and training and recruitment ‘camp’, with the knowledge of the Pakistani government and its active support for years.
The Taleban need Pakistan for shelter. Pakistan hopes to use the Taleban as a tool of influence. Yet, this is not just a quid pro quo relationship. There is also an overlap of ideologies in some aspects. The idea of jihad that is so deeply ingrained in the Pakistani state and establishment entailed that a group claiming to be engaged in a holy war against Western ‘occupation’ readily finds a supportive hand from many Pakistani security officials and politicians
Although the relationship between Pakistan and the Taleban has largely been symbiotic, it has not always been smooth. During the past 12 years, the Taleban has lost (in the form of death or protracted confinement) 12 of its key leaders and senior members for what is understood to have been not toeing Pakistan’s line. Pakistan has effectively killed two deputy leaders who, consecutively, presided over the re-emergence of the Taleban as an insurgency after 2003, when Mullah Omar was forced by security to give up any day-to-day running of the movement. The former defence minister, Mullah Obaidullah, died in Pakistani detention in 2007, while his successor, Mullah Baradar, has been lingering in detention since 2010, his mental ability and physical health reported as being hugely impaired. Both become victims of what a Taleban official told this author as entertaining “too much [of an] independent and Afghan-centric” vision for the insurgency. Both men were understood to be involved in secret talks with Afghan officials, without Pakistani endorsement or sanction.

Pakistan "pretends" that it has "no control" over Taliban ; reality is quite different !
In another example, when Pakistan pressured the Taleban to send senior members to the second round of the Murree Process (which ended after the leaking in late July 2015 of the news of Mullah Omar’s death two years previously), Mansur started looking at Iran as a possible temporary base for himself in order to evade Pakistani pressure.
Perhaps the most intense struggle to control decision-making came with Islamabad’s desire for senior Taleban to show up for ‘peace talks’ with the Afghan government in March/April 2016 held in Pakistan. Whether or not Pakistan wanted real negotiations in good faith is another matter, but they did want the Taleban to show themselves at the table. Mansur did not want this.
Therefore, his travel plans were leaked to the Americans, who "halaled" him with a drone; killed two birds with one stone and later on shed crocodile tears !
The Taleban-Pakistan relationship cannot be characterised, then, as just one of puppet and puppeteer. If the Taleban merely took instructions from Islamabad or Rawalpindi, they would have already met more than once with the Afghan government. In other words, theirs is not a linear command-and-control relationship. Instead, the relationship has the appearance of a joint venture or business partnership, from which each party has derived mutual benefit – shelter for the Taleban in return for influence for Pakistan over an armed insurgency on its neighbour’s soil.
On decision-making, however, the Taleban still have some autonomy.
Taleban decision-making then and now: Mullah Omar and his immediate successors
The Taleban have changed a great deal in the two decades of their existence in how they take decisions. A gradual delegation of power has followed their fall from power in 2001, transforming the ‘one-man show’ to a more collective form of leadership.
With the news in July 2015 that Mullah Omar was dead and had been for two years, Taleban leaders ceased to be able to invoke absolute obedience merely by virtue of sitting in the position of amir. For the first time, a leader’s actions could be questioned and, for the first time, senior members of the movement went public with their disagreement with the leader of the Taleban, the amir ul-muminen
The 10 most powerful men in the Taleban (not in any order of influence)


. Mullah Omar’s son Mullah Muhammad Yaqub, Deputy Amir. Yaqub was thrown into the spotlight while still in his late 20s, as news of his father’s death spread in July 2015. His name instantly emerged as someone who would help lend legitimacy or lack thereof to Mullah Omar’s successor. ...

Yaqub has spent his entire adult life in Pakistani madrasas and is therefore not actually in touch with the realities of Afghanistan. He is too young and inexperienced to personally exert greater power in the files and ranks or in the decision-making at higher echelons.

2. Sirajuddin Haqqani, Deputy Amir. He is one of the few non-southerners who has come to have a prominent role at the national level within the Taleban, even though he is not completely acceptable to parts of the movement.
Some observers keenly predicted Sirajuddin’s further elevation as Mansur’s successor in the wake of the latter’s death. However, that scenario always looked unlikely given it would have polarised the movement. His appointment could have lead the Taleban towards a fate similar to that of the Tehrik-e Taleban Pakistani (TTP)
3. Head of the Cultural Commission, Amir Khan Muttaqi. He runs the Taleban’s media machine and was the Taleban’s information and culture minister and education minister and (a cabinet level post) head of the Edara-ye Umur (Administrative Office). A member of the Rahbari Shura who does not operate very publicly, he is considered a shrewd operator who has strategically positioned himself within the oligarchy.
4. Former communication minister, Mawlawi Hamdullah Nanai. He was one of Mullah Omar’s few confidantes and is widely respected in the movement. During Taleban rule, Nanai served as minister of both communication and public works.
Hailing from Kandahar, Nanai is mainly influential in security and military areas, rather than in politics.
5. Chief of the Military Commission, Sadar Ibrahim. As head of the powerful Military Commission, Sadar leads the Taleban’s war operations and is the movement’s quasi-defence minister.
6. Deputy Chief of the Military Commission, Amir Khan Haqqani. Member of the Mullah Madad Khan (not Jalaluddin Haqqani) family and well-known among Taleban for its contribution to the anti-Soviet jihad and the Taleban military in the 1980s and 1990s, respectively,
...he was a graduate of the Dar ul Uloom-e Haqqania Madrasa in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Pakistan (it has many alumni among Taleban commanders and leaders).
7. Former chief of the Military Commission, Abdul Qayum Zaker. As profiled in an earlier piece, Abdul Qayum Zaker was the head of the Military Commission and leading Taleban forces during the ‘surge’ of American forces from late 2009 to 2012.
He is one of the hawkish and militarist members of the Rahbari Shura and is a former Guantanamo detainee.
8. The former Taleban-era operational chief of the eastern zone, Mawlawi Abdul Kabir. During Taleban rule, Kabir was one of the two deputies of the Sarparasta Shura and also head of the eastern zone and governor of Nangarhar
He has been one of the most politics-oriented leaders in the Taleban. He has been critical of the ruthless killing of Afghan civilians by Taleban fighters.
9. The former minister of health, Mullah Muhammad Abbas Akhund. As profiled in an earlier piece, the former health minister till recently headed the parallel Health Commission which negotiates with international health and humanitarian organisations for access to areas under Taleban control.
He has turned from being hostile to Pakistan and its intelligence services to one of its friends, developing cordial relations after being appointed by the Taleban as its main liaison with Islamabad around 2012
10. Gul Agha (aka Hedayatullah). He is the head of the very important Financial Commission. He was one of Omar and Mansur’s most trusted people, who virtually acted as gatekeeper to both.
(1) The wave of fragmentation in the ranks of the TTP has not ceased since the emergence of rifts over the leadership during the last years of Hakimullah Mehsud which were exacerbated by the transition of leadership after he was killed in 2013 to Mullah Fazlullah. Fazlullah does not come from the TTP core of Mehsud tribals.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2

Postby Bhurishrava » 23 Jun 2016 02:39

Some news from german media.

http://www.dw.com/en/mullah-mansours-go ... a-19300015
Mullah Mansour's gone, but who else is hiding in Pakistan?
Time and again Pakistan has denied the presence of high-profile terrorists on its soil, and time and again the US has targeted them inside Pakistan. Should former Taliban chief Mansour's death be a lesson for Islamabad?


http://www.dw.com/en/how-pakistans-mili ... a-19335614
How Pakistan's military uses media for image making
Activists accuse the Pakistani military of pressuring journalists into toeing its line - portraying the army as "savior" and the politicians as corrupt. DW analyzes the army's expanding media activities.


http://www.dw.com/en/why-germany-should ... a-19347647
Why Germany should be critical of Pakistan's military leadership
In a meeting with Pakistan' army chief Raheel Sharif in Berlin, German FM Steinmeier praised Islamabad's role in fighting terrorism. Analysts argue that Germany should be cautious while commending the Pakistani military.

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Postby Prem » 23 Jun 2016 03:06

Peregrine wrote:
Falijee wrote:"Action" In "Holy" Month Of Ramzan: Famed Qawwal Amjad Sabri Shot Dead In Karachi !b]Falijee Ji :[/b]
The Sabris seem to be staunch Sunnis and it is possible that this is a case of "Sectarian Slaughter"


The original Sabris were Shia & made lot of money in India. Pakistan which is true Islam have been celebrating Holy years of Qitaldan since 47. There is not problem in Pakistan which can not be solved with Qatal in broad daylight. Seems TTP have regrouped now to create & reinforce Islamic environment in Pakistan.

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Postby Falijee » 23 Jun 2016 03:38

Rs.300 Million To Darul Uloom Haqqania (Mullah Omar's Alma- Mater ) Will Help Seminary Students Assimilate In Society :roll: - Imran Khan

Imran defends KP govt's Rs300mn grant for Darul Uloom Haqqania

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) chairman Imran Khan on Monday defended Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (KP) government's budget allocation of Rs300 million for religious seminary Darul Uloom Haqqania.
In an interview with Geo News, Imran Khan said the funds and support will help the seminary students assimilate in our society, bring them in to the mainstream and keep them away from radicalisation.

IMO The Rs300 Million "Grant" is a misnomer; it could well be extortion money ("If you don't give us money, we will do (fill in the blank ! :mrgreen: )

PS: This news about funding to the "Jihad University " has also made it to the WASHINGTON POST !
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Postby Falijee » 23 Jun 2016 03:44

Nov 4, 2011 6:00AM ET
Pakistan Transports Its Nukes in Everyday Vans


Old Story But Still Relevant In Present Context !

Nuclear bombs capable of pulverizing entire cities should probably be kept in a safe place. According to The Atlantic's new cover story, in Pakistan, they're transported in civilian-style vans through busy traffic. That's just one of the hair-raising revelations in a new report by The Atlantic's Jeffrey Goldberg and National Journal's Marc Ambinder about the deteriorating relationship between the U.S. and Pakistan. In "The Ally from Hell," they reveal how Pakistani officials, in the aftermath of the U.S. raid on Osama bin Laden's compound, are transporting nuclear weapons in increasingly hazardous ways in order to keep the U.S. guessing about its deadly stockpile:


PS: Makes a mockery of their claim to being a "responsible " Nuclear Takaat , with strict controls blah, blah blah :evil:

PPS: And this "responsible" Islami Atomi power, wants to join the NSG !!!!

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Postby Falijee » 23 Jun 2016 04:00

Our Vanishing Hindus :eek:

Hence, when Pakistan was established not only were non-Muslims in substantial numbers, they were also reasonably well represented in the assemblies too. However, very soon conditions changed and the non-Muslim percentage decreased to less than five per cent in West Pakistan. And if conditions do not change, even this percentage will disappear.
For most people in Punjab, Hindus especially, are a breed they read about in books, since hardly any remain in the province, but in Sindh, Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa and Balochistan, we still find sizeable pockets of Hindus. Either we wake up soon and protect their rights or very soon they will vanish from the country, through forced conversions, rioting, or simply by moving to India, where now a special provision is being made for them due to their large numbers. It has been nearly 70 years since Partition, but it seems like we do not want to move on from it just yet.

The Aam Abduls of Pakiland are just implementing the precepts of their national poet Iqbal, (himself from a converted family !) who suggested that Muslims need a separate homeland as it is impossible for Muslims to live besides Non Muslims !

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Postby Falijee » 23 Jun 2016 04:17

Paki Aam Abduls Show "Hospitality" Towards Their Afghan Brother :twisted:

Scuffle on the ground: Afghan cricket player beaten by spectators at University Of Peshawar

PESHAWAR / PESHAWAR:
An Afghan national team player, Shafiqullah Shafaq, was beaten by spectators after a Ramazan tournament at University of Peshawar Monday night.
“Shafiqullah raised the flag of Afghanistan during the match and said harsh words against Pakistan as a retaliation to comments supporting Pakistan during the match,” an eyewitness told The Express Tribune. “Subsequently, the spectators beat the player on the ground.”
An Afghan students activist in Pakistan, Khalid Amiri, said on social media the incident reflects the growing intolerance in Pakistan. He said Shafiqullah went to Peshawar to play the tournament without permission from Afghan Cricket Board.


I thought that the "Holy" Month of Ramzan was strictly reserved for fasting, followed by frugal eating and drinking (no alcohol please, we are Muslims!), no sex, no violence , no murder, no kidnapping and showing hospitality to your Islamic brethen. By the media reports, it seems that all these tenets of the "Book" are being implemented in the breach within the borders of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan :mrgreen:

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Postby ramana » 23 Jun 2016 04:25

They have a Uty of Peshawar? What do they teach IED making?

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Postby Falijee » 23 Jun 2016 04:51

"Famous" Ex- Slut Turns "Pious Pumpkin" :mrgreen:

Veena Malik’s first Qawwali releases this Ramazan

LAHORE: Veena Malik will soon be releasing her first Qawwali in collaboration with renowned Qawwal Sher Miandad, ARY News reported.
Veena Malik, who bid farewell to the entertainment industry, :roll: (after "lots" of " liaison" with dozens of people !)recently recorded famous Qawwali named “Ya Hayyo, Ya Qayyum” in a recording studio with Sher Miandad. (has a "preference" for Pathani males !)
It should be noted that the ex-entertainment star had hosted a Ramazan show several years ago (so, at that time, she was repenting her "entertaining" sins by reciting "homilies" to Allah :mrgreen: ) and had recited a naat on a local television channel as well.

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Postby Falijee » 23 Jun 2016 05:08

Pakistan Has An Image Problem - Part III

EU air safety body urges ‘extreme caution’ in Pakistan airspace

January 30, 2015 17:47

Old news but still relevant as of date !

BERLIN: The European air safety agency has warned airline operators to show “extreme caution” when flying over Pakistan amid fears of possible terror attacks.
The European Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) “recommends all operators to exercise extreme caution” when flying over the country and not to fly below 24,000 feet (7,300 metres), it said in a bulletin on its website dated January 22.
The appeal by EASA, which does not refer to any specific threat of attack, applies to flights into, out of or within Pakistan airspace, it said.
It said that “national aviation authorities are reporting an increased risk to flight operation safety due to potential terrorist attacks in Pakistan”. -AFP


PS: This "warning" will likely be indefinite in nature and there is no reason to believe that it will be revoked in the short term (i.e. 5 years ) :mrgreen:

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Postby Falijee » 23 Jun 2016 05:28

TTP Hakimullah Mehsud group claims responsibility for Sabri’s assassination

LAHORE (Web Desk) – TTP Hakimullah Mehsud group has claimed responsibility for the killing of renowned qawwal (traditional Sufi folk singer) Amjad Sabri.

VIDEO: Amjad Sabri’s emotional last Kalaam

Qari Saifullah Mehsud, spokesperson for the TTP Hakimullah Mehsud group, has accepted responsibility for the attack, saying Sabri was guilty of ‘blasphemy’.
Related: Why Amjad Sabri never informed police of the threats he received before he was shot dead
Sabri was shot dead in Karachi’s Liaquatabad area on Wednesday. Two armed men fired at Sabri’s car as it was passing by Liaquatabad.
Also Read: Tribute to Amjad Sabri: the man who held his own against the tide of commercialized Sufi music
In 2014, Islamabad Hight Court (IHC) had issued a notice in a blasphemy case to Amjad Sabri and two TV channels for playing a qawwali during a morning entertainment show.


According to the Deep State, TTP is a "creature" of RAA :mrgreen:

So, taking this hypothesis, one step ahead, is RAW responsible for this attack on the Sufi singer :twisted:

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Postby Falijee » 23 Jun 2016 15:01

ISPR In Denial Mode ?

World left Pakistan alone to face terrorists: Asim Bajwa :roll:

Director General Inter Services Public Relations (ISPR) Lieutenant-General Asim Bajwa on Wednesday regretted the world left Pakistan alone to face militants.“Pakistan fought the war for the entire world in that region but the world left Pakistan alone to face them,” Bajwa said during an interview with Deutsche Welle.“I would say that the international community has not done enough for us,” the military’s spokesperson added. The DG ISPR went on to say the criticism from the west that the Pakistan Army is not “doing enough” against militants is “both regretful and unjustified.”
So the tone has now remarkably changed from last time ; Baaja seems to be in an defensive mode ; is this a plea for more Moolah?
Bajwa clarified that Operation Zarb-e-Azb is targeting all militants, including the Haqqani network. “The military has no preferences. We are targeting terrorists from all groups,” DG ISPR said in an interview with the German (Different messages for foreign and domestic audiences ? Mushy was is a "master" in that "art" !)? broadcaster in Berlin.
DG ISPR also said the killing of former Afghan Taliban chief Mullah Akhtar Mansour in an American drone strike in May was “regrettable” as it upset the Afghan reconciliation process. “[Mansour] entered into Pakistan from another state and then he was traced and attacked. He was a part of the reconciliation process and was required to play his role for peace.” :roll:
“The military crackdown is worthy of all the efforts. We have eliminated the terrorists from the area, and the people are very pleased with our efforts,” the DG maintained.
Further, Bajwa said Pakistan’s “entire defence mechanism is India-specific” ( now it will be Afghan specific as well !) as “India poses a threat to Pakistan”. Bajwa said that despite ongoing developments to engage India, “there is one major cause of tensions between the two countries and that is the long-standing issue of Kashmir”.
DG ISPR also said the killing of former Afghan Taliban chief Mullah Akhtar Mansour in an American drone strike in May was “regrettable” as it upset the Afghan reconciliation process. “[Mansour] entered into Pakistan from another state and then he was traced and attacked. He was a part of the reconciliation process and was required to play his role for peace.”“Pakistan was not informed despite being an ally. This is the issue Pakistan has been protesting,” he added.Bajwa also dismissed claims of an increasingly visible gap between the civilian government and the army, saying, “democracy has been strengthening in Pakistan and it has been receiving all possible support from the military.”“Consultations are made on all major issues of national security and whenever called, the army supports the civilian government on various issues, ranging from natural disasters to development works,” DG ISPR said.
Czech Republic wants training of troops by Pakistan Army: ISPR
Earlier on Tuesday, Army chief General Raheel Sharif told German think-tank Koerber Foundation that Pakistan’s sacrifices in the war against terrorism and extremism were matchless and international community should “stand by us till dividends are fully realised.”General Raheel went to a visit to two-day official visit of Germany on June 20 before traveling to Czech Republic to meet the civil and political leadership.

In a "normal" country all these visits would be performed by the civilian leadership (PM, President) but in Al- Bakistan all these functions have been usurped by the military !

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Postby SSridhar » 23 Jun 2016 15:17

Falijee wrote:ISPR In Denial Mode ?
World left Pakistan alone to face terrorists: Asim Bajwa


But, I thought that but for an 'image' problem, everything was all right. Apparently, it is not so.

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Postby SSridhar » 23 Jun 2016 17:05

Thanks for supporting our NSG bid, Pakistan tells China - Shyam Balasubramani, ToI
Pakistan President Mamnoon Hussain on Thursday thanked Chinese President Xi Jinping for his government's support for Islamabad's bid at membership to the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG). However, Hussain's comment flies straight in the face of the Chinese position on the issue.

"Only granting India the membership of the Nuclear Suppliers Group will shift the balance of power," Hussain said, reported Pakistani news outlet Geo TV.


What? STFU-TSP has already thrown in the towel?

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Postby sudhan » 23 Jun 2016 19:43

Afghans pulling down Porki Shalwar in the UN

Pakistan doesn't need F-16s, n-deals to fight terrorists: Kabul

Quotable quotes..
UNITED NATIONS: Accusing government entities in Pakistan of aiding terrorist networks in violation of United Nations Security Council mandates, Afghanistan's Permanent Representative Mahmoud Saikal said on Tuesday that Islamabad does not need nuclear deals and F-16s to fight terrorists, rather it requires political will and "honest and police action".


Ouch! Low blow! :(( :((

Islamic State (IS) and Al Qaeda are trying to re-emerge in Afghanistan despite the recent "heavy blows" they suffered at hands of the Afghan security forces, while "Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan, in coordination with other terror groups, remains a long-term threat to the security and stability of our region," Saikal stressed.

"What is more important, most of these terrorist groups and networks enjoy the facilitation and orchestration services of elements within the state structure of Pakistan who believe in the use of violence in pursuit of political objectives," he said.


No pussyfooting.. and another low blow :(( :((
Islamabad's "charade of plausible deniability, duplicity, and blame of Afghan weaknesses continues, which must come to an end if we are to succeed in counter-terrorism", he said.


Let the pigs atleast apply some ice pack on their collective junks before the next low blow!! :(( :(( :((

On the positive side, Saikal spoke of the inauguration of the Afghan-India Friendship Salma dam in Herat and the signing of a transit trade agreement for the Chabahar Port between Afghanistan, India, and Iran.

"We have already started to export agricultural products through this new trade route," he said."
Final blow was loving delivered with a cricket bat :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

On a side note: Is there already a functioning connection between Af and Chabahar port?

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Postby habal » 23 Jun 2016 19:58

watch this entire video carefully and check how pakis behave at torkham like wkk behave at wagah


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Postby member_29218 » 23 Jun 2016 20:41

Falijee wrote:Our Vanishing Hindus :eek:

Hence, when Pakistan was established not only were non-Muslims in substantial numbers, they were also reasonably well represented in the assemblies too. However, very soon conditions changed and the non-Muslim percentage decreased to less than five per cent in West Pakistan. And if conditions do not change, even this percentage will disappear.
For most people in Punjab, Hindus especially, are a breed they read about in books, since hardly any remain in the province, but in Sindh, Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa and Balochistan, we still find sizeable pockets of Hindus. Either we wake up soon and protect their rights or very soon they will vanish from the country, through forced conversions, rioting, or simply by moving to India, where now a special provision is being made for them due to their large numbers. It has been nearly 70 years since Partition, but it seems like we do not want to move on from it just yet.

The Aam Abduls of Pakiland are just implementing the precepts of their national poet Iqbal, (himself from a converted family !) who suggested that Muslims need a separate homeland as it is impossible for Muslims to live besides Non Muslims !


Ironical that it is the same Iqbal who wrote 'Saare Jahan se achha, Hindustan Hamara' before he became such a radical proponent of the 'Two-Nation Theory'. According to Tarek Fatah, it was his hatred and jealousy of Tagore that drove him to this, especially after the latter won the Nobel prize.

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Postby arun » 23 Jun 2016 21:02

Green on Green Intra-Mohammadden religion motivated violence in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan results in a less Green singer of Mohammadden religious music of Sufi sect being killed by the More Green Mohammadden Group the Tehrik e Taliban Pakistan (TTP) during the Mohammadden holy month of Ramazan aka Ramzan aka Ramadan.

While no reason for the assassination of Amjad Sabri was given by the TTP it is likely that this he may have been Bull Cutletted aka Haji Bull Cutletted aka been declared Wajib Ul Qatal for committing blasphemy:

Sabri, a notable Sufi singer known for his devotional music called Qawwali, was traveling through the city’s central Liaquatabad neighborhood with an associate when two gunmen on a motorcycle opened fire on his car, according to Pakistani newspaper Dawn. He reportedly suffered gunshot wounds to the head and leg and was taken to a nearby hospital, where he died from his injuries.

A spokesman for the TTP, the Pakistani branch of the Taliban militant group, claimed responsibility for the 45-year-old singer’s murder although the motive was not immediately clear. Sabri had been booked under Pakistan’s blasphemy law two years ago after one of his songs mentioned relatives of the Prophet Muhammad — an act considered taboo in the Muslim-majority nation. It is not yet known whether the song was related to his death.


Pakistan Mourns Sufi Singer Amjad Sabri After He Was Shot Dead in Karachi : The Pakistani Taliban has claimed responsibility for the assassination

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Postby arun » 23 Jun 2016 21:13

arun wrote:Afghanistan appears to have pulled out of the CASA-1000 electricity transmission project. The reason being “dearth of demand” in Afghanistan which will tickle me pink if it was a result of the Indian funded Salma Dam coming on stream.

It will also now be interesting to see what circuitous route the self proclaimed “Gateway to Central Asia” despite not having a border with any Central Asian Republic, the Islamic Republic Of Pakistan, will use to move electricity from Tajikistan without going through Afghanistan:

Pakistan to receive more as Afghanistan abandons share in CASA-1,000

Reaction of Casey Michael to the news of the Afghan pullout in the Diplomat is to be unsurprised and start his article with the words “For the past year, there’s been a distinct distance between the rhetoric surrounding the Central Asia South Asia Electricity Transmission and Trade (CASA-1000) project and the unfurling realities on the ground.”:

Did Afghanistan Just Drop Out of CASA-1000?

Scepticism about CASA1000 (and TAPI) seems to quite evident.A month old article (May 08,2016) by Bruce Pannier was not very sanguine about the prospects of both deals:

The Prospects Of TAPI and CASA 1000

The Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s wet dream of being the thekadar controlling India’s access to Central Asia in return for toll without having a border with any Central Asian Republic, comes down with one more thud.


Meanwhile someone in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan seems to have let slip that that CASA-1000 is likely financially unviable :lol: . But never mind, as is the norm presently in the Islamic Republic, the Chinese will make things right by shipping electricity over the Khunjerab under CPEC :wink: :

‘CASA-1000 deal with Tajikistan disastrous for Pakistan’

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Postby Falijee » 23 Jun 2016 21:19

Three more nuclear power plants planned

Pakistan has planned three more Nuclear Power Plants at Chashma and Muzaffargarh in addition to the two currently under construction aimed at meeting growing demand of electricity in the country, well informed sources told Business Recorder.
Strategic Plans Division / PAEC, sources said, embarked upon a comprehensive program of power generation through Nuclear Power Plants (NPPs).Presently, 3 x NPPs ie K-1, C-1 and C-2 are in operation and generating 730 MW and C-3 and C-4 are going to be operational in 2016 adding another 680 MW to the national grid.Two new NPPs ie K-2 / K-3 are under construction and are likely to be operational in 2020-21, adding 2200 MW to the national grid.The sources said NPPs have been supplied and built by Chinese on EPC (Engineering, Procurement and Construction) basis and little was done indigenously.
So, it is at last being admitted that the project will be done by Chini-blothers, and just the "paint and labeling job"to be completed by the local Pakis ! Makes one wonder whether the atom bomb blast in the Chagai Hills was also a "Made in China" turn-key operation with just the "switch" function performed by the Pakis :mrgreen:
However, it is now being planned to undertake maximum possible construction work and manufacturing of equipment indigenously.The share of mechanical equipment in a 1100 MW plant is about Rs 200 billion out of which the objective is to manufacture about 10% of the mechanical equipment indigenously and gradually’ increase it to at least 30% which is considered doable.“As, there will be 3-4 NPPs under construction, the yearly work will at least amount to Rs 30-40 billion.
Before taking a "big risk" in indigenously constructing such a complicated project (a nuclear plant ) and later risking a "Chernobyl," why don't they follow the example of India and become sufficient and first produce locally made bicycles, motor cycles, car, scooters, household appliances like toaster, stoves, which the Aam Awam can consume, give a boost to the local economy and in this way save them from the debt trap, which their economy is heading for; for that, the education focus has to be shifted from Madarasah education to science education ! :mrgreen:
This will help save foreign exchange, broaden the base for manufacturing of heavy equipment in the country and gain expertise,” the sources continued.SPD already has a nuclear equipment workshop under the name of HMC-3 at Taxila and Peoples Steel Mills (PSM) for manufacturing of alloy steel at Manghopir, Karachi :roll: .
Manned by Chini blothers?
To achieve this gigantic objective of enhancing the quality and quantum of indigenous manufacture of mechanical equipment, SPD conducted a feasibility study, which recommended that HMC, HMC-3 and PSM should function under one top management.On June 8, 2016, the Economic Co-ordination Committee (ECC) approved transfer of HMC to SDP/ PAEC.HMC was established in 1971 in third five-year plan under Government of Pakistan policy to shift emphasis from consumer to producer goods industry in heavy engineering sector.It was designed to produce cement plants, sugar plants, cranes and road rollers, etc, but now can also produce boilers, pressure vessels, storage tanks, conventional machinery, chemical plants and thermal /hydro power plants apart from steel casting, steel ingots, iron casting and non ferrous casting, etc.Presently, HMC despite being a precious national asset, :roll: is highly under-utilised as it has an annual turnover of under Rs 3 billion which is by no means a healthy state of affairs.
Maybe, the IMF/World Bank, should target this "precious asset" for privitization to utilize its "full potential"- whatever it means in the Paki context :mrgreen:
In the last decade, most of the works performed by HMC were for sugar plants however, in the present situation sugar plants related jobs have been substantially reduced. The machinery installed at HMC is obsolete and lacks precision manufacturing.
More reason to consider privatization !
SPD argues that the complex should be refurbished and new machinery installed for which a Balancing, Modernisation Restructuring and Expansion (BMRE) program worth Rs 21.543 billion for upgradation of machinery and Rs 665.83 million for design institute has been approved by the Government; however, funds have not been provided yet.
n December 2006, the decision to privatise HMC was not implemented by the Government on the recommendations of SPD.
:roll: So, in the absence of privatization, where is the moolah for modernization ( approx Rs 22 Billion!) expected to come from :roll:
The basic objective of getting the HMC excluded from privatisation list was to prepare it to support SPD in its plans to indigenously manufacture equipment for Balance of Plant (BoP) for NPPs.
The FAMILY JEWELS have to be under lock and key !
In March 2008, during the period of interim Government, HMC was placed under the administrative control of SPD by de-linking it from Ministry of industries & Production (Mol&P) for the above cited rationale, however, in September 2008 the decision was reviewed by the then elected Government which decided that the earlier arrangement under which the affairs of HMC were being managed jointly by Ministry of Industries & ‘Production and SPD would continue.SPD/PAEC maintains that HMC together with HMC-3 and PSM has great potential to contribute to the indigenous manufacturing of equipment for NPPs as well as in the growth of national economy in the coming years especially in terms of mega projects and upcoming industrialisation in the wake of the China Pakistan Economic Corridor.Additionally, SPD plans to configure HMC in such a manner that maximum mechanical work related to strategic program is done at HMC which would result in a further increase of its turnover.
Looks good on paper for discussion purposes, but implementation (funding ,technical expertise and organizational know how is somebody else's headache !)
“HMC is a critical industry for the development of mega projects and needs to be put back on track through already approved BMRE. The PC-I already approved can be reviewed and executed in two phases. In phase-I, most essential machinery can be installed which will reduce the requirement of funds from the Government,” said Director General SPD. :((
Correction: This is apropos a headline ‘Handing over of HEC to SPD/PAEC approved by ECC’ carried by the newspaper yesterday. In this headline, Heavy Mechanical Complex (HMC) was erroneously indicated or described as ‘HEC’. –Business Recorder

IOW, like anything else in Pakistan, DUE DILIGENCE WAS MISSING !!!

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Postby arun » 23 Jun 2016 21:31

X Posted from the “Oppression of Minorities In Pakistan” thread.

Green on Green Intra-Mohammadden religion based sectarian violence in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan during Mohammaddenism’s holy month of Ramazan / Ramzan / Ramadan sees minority Ahmadiyya / Ahmadi sect homeopath shot dead in Karachi:

Doctor from Ahmadi minority shot dead in Pakistan

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Postby Falijee » 23 Jun 2016 21:48

India - Iran To Join Peace Process - Olson

WASHINGTON: India and Iran will be included in the Afghan peace process at a later stage, a senior US official has said while recognising Pakistan’s role as well.
In tweets sent after he spoke at a Washington think tank on Tuesday, Ambassador Richard Olson said: “Pakistan does remain committed to the process of reconciliation and talks in Afghanistan.”
Mr Olson was the US ambassador in Islamabad before he was called back to Washington late last year and made the US special representative for Pakistan and Afghanistan.He noted that both India and Iran had stakes in Afghanistan’s future and said that’s why they would be included in peace efforts at a later stage.
So, "Pakistan's monopoly in Afghanistan" is being "diluted" by no less than their sponsor ! ; Iran and India, regional players are being brought into the equation; wonder what is going to be Paki reaction to this ? more leaning towards Chini blothers !
Ambassador Olson said the US decision to eliminate Taliban leader Mullah Mansour and give combat powers to American troops in Afghanistan should not be seen as indication of a lack of interest in the peace process.“The Taliban’s repeated refusal to join talks with the Afghan government contributed to the US decision to take action against Mullah Mansur on May 21,” he said.He noted that some commentators interpreted the strike as indicating a shift in US strategy or a weakening of its commitment to the peace process. “It has not,” he said.
It is a definite shift no doubt, but not being admitted; not to pour more salt into Paki wounds !!!
On June 9, President Obama gave the US military the power to assist the Afghan military in combat missions against the Taliban.But Ambassador Olson pointed out that while announcing these decisions, “President Obama made clear … that the removal of Mullah Mansur and the expanded US authority do not represent a strategic shift in our approach to Afghanistan.”
The envoy assured the international community that the US was not resuming day-to-day combat operations in Afghanistan.
“The Afghan national defence and security forces have full responsibility, as they should, for providing security in their country,” he said. “Nonetheless, this strike should make clear to all parties in the region that the United States is fully prepared to protect its interests.”
With proper training and equipment,(provided by India and other countries) performance of Afghan forces has much improved !
But the determination to fight for its interests had not lessened US commitment to seeking a negotiated settlement to the Afghan dispute, he said.“We will also continue to encourage an Afghan-led, Afghan-owned peace process in which the Afghan government and the Afghan Taliban can bring this conflict to an end.”

IOW, Pakistan should not make the "wrong conclusion" that Afghanistan will return to pre 911 days and again become the epi-centre of terrorism and also Pakistan's back yard of strategic depth !

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2

Postby Prem » 23 Jun 2016 22:00

Maruf says Paki doing Zarb E Bakwas! Hali Bejha Khali go Pagal.

http://www.timesnow.tv/Debate-Imran-Kha ... 490559.cms

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2

Postby Falijee » 23 Jun 2016 22:27

Afghans will never accept Durand Line as permanent border: Protestors

By Farhad Naibkhel-KABUL: Hundreds of people came to the streets on Wednesday to protest against Pakistan’s aggression and cross-Durand Line attacks at the Torkham crossing. The protesters said that Afghans would never accept the Durand Line as permanent border between Afghanistan and Pakistan.
Pakistan’s intention to build a check post at the Torkham area caused a three-day clash between with Afghan border police. Three Afghan border police and two children were killed and 20 others were injured.
The protestors denounced Pakistan’s cross border attacks, saying that they would defend their territory until the last drop of their blood.
“We run the protest to condemn cross border attacks and aggression in Torkham by Pakistan paramilitary and announce support from Afghan forces,” said Faiz Mohammad Zaland, who had organized the demonstration.
Laghman Tribal Elder Mohabatullah Khan Shirzad who attended the protest, said: “We protested to raise our voice against Pakistan aggression in Torkham.”
“We never accept Durand Line as border.”
“I will support Afghan army in war against Pakistan and will resist up to last drop of blood in anti-Pakistan war,” Khan said.
Another protestor Mohammad Munir Ibrahimi wearing army uniform said that “Afghan people never accept aggression in Afghanistan soil and will defend territory.”
The protesters then submitted a resolution to the United Nations office in Kabul to register their protest against Pakistan’s aggressions.
The Pakis, by their "stupid actions" (building gate at Torkham, unneccessary documentation for entry, make life miserable for Afghan refugees in Pakistan) have stirred a hornets nest and united Afghans of all ethnicities and have brought the dormant Durand Line issue to the front and centre !
Pakistan through intelligence services and military establishment has constantly perpetrated political chaos into Afghan territory. We strongly condemn these policies and demand that Pakistan should quickly abandon this nefarious design of negatively pursuing aim in Afghanistan as soon as possible.
All Afghans collectively rejects Pakistan’s position on Durand Line. International community especially UK should assured Pakistan that Afghans will never accept this artificial line in front of any force. Pakistan should understand Afghans will never let their colonized soils to neo-colonizer. We also want to convey the clear message to the world that the people of Pakistan is not our enemy, we want peaceful coexistence with them. But the only hurdle to the whole regional peace is the dominant Punjabi ruling elites, who want to impose their neo-colonialism and imperialism against all oppressed nationalities, especially Baloch, Sindhi and Pashtoon.
So the Pakjabis are getting a "bad name", both inside and outside the country !
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2

Postby Falijee » 23 Jun 2016 22:48

Pakistan "Carved Out" From The Lands Of Afghanistan And India" - Kabul Think Tank

Pakistan a legacy of British Empire: Analysts

“After its defeats in Anglo-Afghan wars in 1842, 1880 and 1919, Britain wanted to avenge the defeats in form of carving Pakistan out from the land of Afghanistan and India. Pakistani leadership was aware of the fact that Pashtuns would never accept Pakistan as their homeland, therefore, it ordered the massacre of Babrra in Charsadda district on August 12, 1948 and suppressed the voice of Pashtuns’ freedom and rights.”

AT-KABUL: Discussing the dramatic and mysterious creation of Pakistan in 1947, analysts opined in a monthly gathering of the Rana Think Tank that Pakistan has been created by the exhausted Great Britain for continuation of its policies in the South Asia region.
Abdur Rasheed Waziri, a political affairs analyst and member of the Academy of Sciences, said the British Empire was not interested in bringing positive social changes or to promote Christianity or establish a political structure for benefits of the Indians, but wanted to expand the empire.
The British Empire was a product of the industrial revolution that wanted to pursue its expansionist policy—from Asia to America, he said, adding tha the British had advanced armed forces and was industrial power. Thus, having he ground to expand the boundaries
“Creation of Pakistan is dramatic in a sense that neither it had geographical structure nor proper ideological base. It is said that Pakistan and Israel came into being on the basis of religious ideology. However, the two are protecting interests of the West. Israel is protecting the West’s interest in Middle East while Pakistan is protecting their interest in South Asia. There is no difference between the two countries, except nature of the ideologies,” he opined.
This comparison has been made by other historians as well ; Pakistan DOES NOT want to get itself lumped with Israel for obvious reasons :mrgreen:
He pointed out that the Great Britain given rights to all provinces and princely states to decide about their fate—either join Pakistan or India. However, the then North West Frontier Province (NWFP) was deprived of this right. A referendum was held in NWFP (now Khyber Pakhtunkhwa).Khudai Khidmatgar Movement, led by Khan Abdul Ghaffar Khan or Bacha Khan, boycotted the referendum and has sent a letter to Lord Mountbatten, saying that NWFP is part of Afghanistan. Bacha Khan was told that England could not give NWFP in a “golden plate” to Afghanistan as Afghan leaders are sleeping and not claiming the lost territory back, he underlined.[/quote]
“From where this two-nation theory come that Hindus and Muslims are two separate nations. Why it did not come at a time when Muslims were ruling India? For me it is a baseless theory carved out by those who wanted to have a base for Pakistan, a country that is not Islamic from any point. Even Muslim scholars were against creation of Pakistan,” Alizai said, adding that Moghal Empire met its end in 1857 but the British started interference into Afghanistan since long.

IMO, Malsi has become a "business" ( a way of making a living in the absence of anything else !) in Pakiland; look, how many Maulvis, Mullahs, Maulanas, Qaris, Hajis,etc are on the government payroll, some even drawing salary at federal minister level !
“They supported Shah Shuja of Afghanistan in 1809. They were against Dost Mohammad Khan when he took power in 1823. Khan was governing Peshawar, Ghazni, Kandahar and Kabul in 1826. When Ranjit Singh taken Peshawar, the British governor general Lord Auckland declared war in 1837 against Kabul instead of helping Dost Mohammad Khan. Kabul was taken by British in 1839 and lost it in 1841. Around 4,000 British troops and 12,000 camp followers were killed by the Afghan freedom fighters. Thus, we can say that since long the British Empire wanted direct influence in Afghanistan,” he quipped.He said that Pashtuns marked the August 14 (Independence Day of Pakistan) this year as Black Day. Alizai said that Pakistani leadership was aware of the fact that Pashtuns would never accept Pakistan; therefore, ordered the massacre of Babrra in Charsadda district on August 12, 1948.
He said that Afghans should launch campaigns in this regard to pressurize the government and prod the international community to recognize the rights of Afghans living on the other side of the Durand Line.
So, the "idea of strategic depth" should now be "flushed down the toilet" ? :mrgreen:

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2

Postby rajsunder » 23 Jun 2016 22:52

Primus wrote:

Ironical that it is the same Iqbal who wrote 'Saare Jahan se achha, Hindustan Hamara' before he became such a radical proponent of the 'Two-Nation Theory'. According to Tarek Fatah, it was his hatred and jealousy of Tagore that drove him to this, especially after the latter won the Nobel prize.


The same guy then went on to write

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Cheen-o-Arab Humara, Hindustan Humara
Muslim Hain Hum, Watan Hai Sara Jahan Humara

China and Arabia are ours; India is ours.
We are Muslims, the whole world is ours.


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