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Spin has started. RAA did it. Hindu Indian army will avoid such an action, they are afraid of Pak gorillas going after the jaguar vein. Sonia is against such stupid moves. Modi needs face saving. Major Muslim uprising about to happen in J&K.RAW tasked to carry out covert strikes against Pakistan
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan’s intelligence establishment has got the information that RAW has been tasked by the Modi government to execute covert strikes against Pakistan that includes terrorist activity, targeting of ISI or MI offices and assassination of Hafiz Saeed and Masood Azhar.
According to a senior security official source, after the Indian military command advised Modi against any surgical strike or going for war with Pakistan, the option of covert strike against Pakistan has been approved.
“RAW has been tasked to plan and execute a covert strike which should speak by itself being an Indian response to Uri,” the source said, adding that RAW has been asked to select as target intelligence establishment of Pakistan. Besides this, it is said that RAW has been asked to speed up execution of its plans to assassinate Hafiz Saeed and Masood Azhar.
The source said that Indian Army was asked by the Modi government to prepare for a surgical strike inside AJK on “terror camps”. Army though agreed to strike and assured its political leadership of a successful infiltration and targeting of what India calls “terror camps”, it declined to guarantee safe exit of its strikers. India Army, it is said, also warned about its apprehension that it might result in launching of guerilla force by Pakistani security forces and further exploitation by Pakistan on international stage.
The source added that Indian Air Force told its political leadership that it has the capability to carry out strikes on “terror camps” but now it has lost the element of surprise. Any mission launched now will have to face Pakistan Air Force. Additionally it was said that Pakistani reaction to the strikes cannot be forecasted.
Indian Intelligence Bureau, the source said, advised against engaging into major conflict with Pakistan. According to the Indian IB’s input, in case of major conflict with Pakistan, India may see a major Muslim uprising in Kashmir, Madhya Pradesh, Delhi, UP, Maharashtra and Haryana. In case of war it will be difficult to control any such uprising which may grow out of control.
As a result of IB input, the source said, the Indian Home Ministry ordered IB to present a report on weapons held by Muslims which include licensed arms/cartridges. It is also learnt by Pakistan that the Ministry of External Affairs has been given major responsibility to save face of the Modi government by ensuring diplomatic isolation of Pakistan. It was discussed that even if it is not materialized, at least local Indian audience should be satisfied.
The source said that it has also been learnt that Indian home minister Rajnath Singh tried his level best to take Congress into confidence in the Modi government strategy against Pakistan but Sonia refused to cooperate. Later, it is said, Salman Khursheed was approached to convince Sonia Gandhi but he also declined to cooperate in this regard.
That was the premise under which Op. Gibraltar & Op. Grandslam were laumched by the PA in 1965.g.sarkar wrote:Major Muslim uprising about to happen in J&K.
And forget about Lizard coming to their rescue, except for a lot of verbal support. I guess the strikes in Myanmar were done to iron out kinks in the system.habal wrote:Indian muslims will not put down their cup of tea for Pakistan, let alone go about an uprising.
From Indian Express:Ladies and gentlemen, Jai hind, and a very good morning to all of you.
It has been a matter of serious concern that there has been continuing and increasing infiltration by terrorists across the Line of Control (LoC) in Jammu and Kashmir (J&K). This is reflected in the terrorist attacks at Poonch and Uri on 11th and 18th of September, respectively. Almost 20 infiltration attempts have been foiled by the Indian Army successfully during this year. During these terrorist attacks and infiltration attempts we have recovered items, including global positioning systems and stores which have had Pakistani markings. Further captured terrorist hailing from Pakistan or Pakistan-occupied-Kashmir (PoK) have confessed to their training and arming in Pakistan or territory under the control of Pakistan.
The matter has been taken up at the highest diplomatic levels and military levels at regular times. India has actually also offered councillor access to the apprehended terrorist to Pakistan to verify their confessions. Furthermore, we had proposed that fingerprints and DNA samples of terrorists who had been killed in the Uri and Poonch encounters, can also be made available to Pakistan for their investigation. Despite our persistent urging that Pakistan respect its commitment in January 2004 not to allow its soil or territory under its control to be used for terrorism against India, there has been no let up in infiltration or terrorist actions inside our territory.
If the damage was limited it has been primarily due to the efforts of the soldiers of Indian Army who are deployed in a multi-tier counter-infiltration grid and most of the infiltration bids have been foiled at closed locations. The Indian Armed Forces have been extremely vigilant in the face of continuing threat.
Now, based on very specific and credible information which we received yesterday, that some terrorist teams had positioned themselves at launch pads along the LoC, with an aim to carry out infiltration and terrorist strikes in J&K and various other metros in our country, the Indian Army conducted surgical strikes last night at these launch pads. The operations were basically focused to ensure that these terrorists do not succeed in their design of infiltration and carrying out destruction and endangering the lives of citizens of our country.
During these counter-terrorist operations, significant casualties have been caused to the terrorists and those who are trying to support them. The operations aimed at neutralising the terrorists have since ceased. We do not have any plans for further continuation of the operations. However, the Indian Armed Forces are fully prepared for any contingency that may arise. I’ve just spoken to the Pakistani Director General of Military Operations (DGMO) and explained our concerns and also shared with him the operations we had conducted last night.
It is India’s intention to maintain peace and tranquility in the region but we can certainly not allow the terrorists to operate across the LoC with impunity and attack the citizens of our country. In line with Pakistan’s commitment made in January 2004, not to allow its soil or territory under its control for any terrorist activities against India, we expect the Pakistan Army to cooperate with us with a view to erase this menace of terrorism from our region.
Thank you very much.
Press Release
No PR334/2016-ISPR Dated: September 29, 2016
Rawalpindi - September 29, 2016: There has been no surgical strike by India,instead there had been cross border fire initiated and conducted by India which is existential phenomenon. As per rules of engagement same was strongly and befittingly responded by Pakistani troops.
The notion of surgical strike linked to alleged terrorists bases is an illusion being deliberately generated by Indian to create false effects.This quest by Indian establishment to create media hype by rebranding cross border fire as surgical strike is fabrication of truth. Pakistan has made it clear that if there is a surgical strike on Pakistani soil, same will be strongly responded.
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Gautamhttp://www.ndtv.com/india-news/by-denyi ... 67967?stky
By Denying India's Surgical Strikes, Here's What Pak Wants: Experts
All India | Edited by Shuchi Shukla | Updated: September 29, 2016 14:14 IST
NEW DELHI: The Pakistani army has accused India of "fabrication of truth" after India revealed that it carried out surgical strikes at three places in Pakistan-Occupied Kashmir where terrorists were placed to cross into Jammu and Kashmir.
The strikes were launched last night based on "very specific and credible information that some terrorist units had positioned themselves to infiltrate," said Lt General Ranbir Singh, the army's Director General of Military Operations to reporters this morning.
But the Pakistani military's press wing said India had killed two of its soldiers in unprovoked cross-border firing. "This quest by Indian establishment to create media hype by rebranding cross-border fire as surgical strike is fabrication of truth," it said in a statement.
"Pakistan has made it clear that if there is a surgical strike on Pakistani soil, same will be strongly responded."
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Pakistan's denial of India's strikes last night should be seen as its attempt to defuse the situation," said Vivek Katju, a former senior diplomat and an expert in India-Pak relations.
I think it was part of the smoke and mirrors set up for the strike about to come.SSharma wrote:i have a question
few days ago there were reports of surgical strikes killing ~200 pakis
what was that? who n why was that news floated for?
So, this is not the first time. It is the first time that it was made public.g.sarkar wrote:Gautamhttp://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/ ... ps-planned
India Hits Pakistan Terror Camps After Attack on Soldiers
India said it attacked terrorist camps just across the border in Pakistan late on Wednesday, the biggest military escalation since a standoff in 1999, as Prime Minister Narendra Modi retaliated for a deadly strike against Indian soldiers earlier this month.
Heavy casualties were inflicted on militants assembled to infiltrate India, Director General of Military Operations Ranbir Singh said in a briefing in New Delhi on Thursday. The operations have ended and no more are planned, he said, without elaborating.
Indian troops entered about 3 kilometers (1.86 miles) into Pakistani territory and attacked three camps, India Today tweeted, without saying where it got the information.
"This is a very significant announcement," Shashank Joshi, a fellow at the Royal United Services Institute in London, said in an e-mail. "India has conducted covert, retaliatory cross-border raids on many occasions in the 1990s and 2000s, but to prominently announce them is a provocative new approach. Depending on how far the Indians penetrated and the nature of the targets, these might also represent much more ambitious operations."
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No, not the first but definitely the largest such, to my knowledge.g.sarkar wrote:...
So, this is not the first time. It is the first time that it was made public.
gautam sir, even MMS presided over building of dams and tunnels diverting water from Indus during his term, but he didn't go public with it. Only when Zardari met him, did he confide in MMS that he too was a farmer and knew what was happening and what India was up to. Again MMS pretended ignorance. Even during UPA times there were cross-border raids, but never publicized much.g.sarkar wrote:So, this is not the first time. It is the first time that it was made public.g.sarkar wrote: Gautam
Alhamdulillah, Alhamdulillah, thank Allmighty Allah that all our young men came back unharmed.habal wrote:As per Amit Shah 117 casualties of terrorists, and 3 pakistani army men guarding the dump.
habal wrote:As per Amit Shah 117 casualties of terrorists, and 3 pakistani army men guarding the dump.
Nearly 10 days after the Uri attack that claimed 18 jawans, India carried out surgical strikes in Pakistan Occupied Kashmir, inflicting heavy casualties on terrorists and 'those protecting them" and indicating a change of stand on the rules of engagement on the disputed line of control.
Indian DGMO Lt Gen Ranbir Singh announced that Pakistan had been informed about the strikes and that India has no intention of continuing the operations but is ready for any reaction from the Pak sid ..
Here's what happened in 4 hours, according to reports:
1. Operation begins around 12.30 am on Wednesday. According to reports, paratroopers from Special Forces were involved.
2. The commandos were airdropped at the LoC, from where they crossed over to the Pakistani side.
3. According to sources, Indian commandos entered three kilometres across the Line of Control to conduct the 'surgical strikes'
4. The strikes were carried out in Bhimber, Hotspring, Kel & Lipa sectors, on Pak's side of LoC, according to reports.
5. The location was 500 meters-2 Km across LoC, sources said
6. 7 terror launch pads were destroyed ..
7. 38 terrorists and 2 Pakistani soldiers were killed in Indian Army surgical strikes, no Indian casualties. Those killed included terrorists, their guides and handlers
8. Helicopters were used. Mission, according to reports, ended at 4.30 am
The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Terrorist fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan also does not accept that India carried out a cross border raid.arun wrote:The Uniformed Jihadi's of the Military of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan claim there was no cross border raid by India, claim instead it was cross border firing:
Pakistan army denies Indian claims of 'surgical strikes'
Full Text of Press Release by the Uniformed Jihadi’s of the Military of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan via their ISPR:
Press Release
No PR334/2016-ISPR Dated: September 29, 2016
Rawalpindi - September 29, 2016: There has been no surgical strike by India,instead there had been cross border fire initiated and conducted by India which is existential phenomenon. As per rules of engagement same was strongly and befittingly responded by Pakistani troops.
The notion of surgical strike linked to alleged terrorists bases is an illusion being deliberately generated by Indian to create false effects.This quest by Indian establishment to create media hype by rebranding cross border fire as surgical strike is fabrication of truth. Pakistan has made it clear that if there is a surgical strike on Pakistani soil, same will be strongly responded.
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From Islamic Republic’s MOFA website:Pakistan condemns LoC violations by India, rejects Indian claim of surgical strikes
(2016-09-29) Pakistan strongly condemns unprovoked ceasefire violations at LoC by Indian forces, which is a continuation of a pattern of cease fire violations committed by the Indian forces. The valiant Armed Forces of Pakistan have given and will continue to give a befitting response to any aggression.
Pakistan also rejects the baseless Indian claim that it has "carried out surgical strikes into Pakistan". The Indian side has chosen to share this falsified claim with the Indian media.
Such falsified, concocted and irresponsible statements can only escalate the already fragile security situation in the region, especially in the wake of the Indian brutalities and war crimes in the Indian occupied Jammu and Kashmir.
India has deliberately escalated tension at the LoC in order to divert attention from the continued deteriorating situation in the Indian occupied Jammu and Kashmir and horrendous Indian brutalities there. It is trying to make fool of its own people and the international community.
We can assure India that any such aggression will not go unanswered or unpunished. Pakistan is ready to defend its people and territory from any Indian aggression or Indian State sponsored terrorism on Pakistani soil.
Islamabad
29 September 2016
Manish_P wrote:Eagerly waiting for the days to come soon when we will not need to risk our soldiers lives to take out such piglets* who are not significantly inside the POK side of the LOC
I rather this be done by long range glide bombs or satelitte guided bombs released by our UCAVs/planes from well inside our side of the border
(* Pigs being the uniformed jehadis)
No Bihar?g.sarkar wrote:https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/153562 ... t-PakistanIndia may see a major Muslim uprising in Kashmir, Madhya Pradesh, Delhi, UP, Maharashtra and Haryana. In case of war it will be difficult to control any such uprising which may grow out of control