Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby SSridhar » 18 Oct 2016 09:24

The very muted reference to terrorism in the joint-statement of BRICS showed India's failure on two counts: one, it was wrong to have set the expectations high considering the fact that China is a member and a very China-dependent Russia is another member. Two, the feigned surprise by Indian diplomats of a Russia not speaking up for it in BRICS over terrorism.

Russia is now very firmly in Chinese hands and is pushed into a corner where it can no longer independently formulate foreign policies. It has to keep looking over the shoulders at China for its nod. Why hasn't the Indian diplomatic community recognized that? Why does it feel surprised? The first ever Russian exercise with the Pakistani Army was scheduled originally to take place in POK; it was only a very strong Indian diplomatic push with enough blandishments dangled probably that made it change the venue. The Chinese are already all over POK and even undertake joint patrols with the Pakistani Army. Soon enough, a time will come when China will even embargo Russian arms sales to us.

The inability of the Indian citizens to show solidarity over actions by GoI against Pakistan will weaken India's attempts to isolate Pakistan globally. I am afraid that unless Indians at large concur that 'enough is enough' and it is time to isolate Pakistan, GoI's attempts to do so would not be successful. People like Anurag Kasshyap, Priyanka Chopra (and she comes from an Army family), Salman Khan, Mahesh Bhatt et al are not limited to filmdom alone but present in other fields as well. The opposition parties want to score short-sighted political victories. There is no 1971-like consensus. We are far too fragmented. The deep-seated hatred for Modi and his party overcomes national goals. This is dangerous. If we take a tough stance, as we have already done, and then reconcile from it due to domestic pressure, Pakistan will simply become unmanageable in the future.

Circumstances have always helped Pakistan in the last seven decades. For its part, Pakistan has been adept at grabbing the opportunities because it never stood on Utopian principles of morality. Its objective was clear and simple - go to bed with anyone and everyone in order to destroy India. It also engineered situations to its benefit.

At Brics, Russian silence on Pak terror stuns India - Sachin Parasshar, ToI
China blocked India's attempts to name JeM and LeT in the Goa Declaration, wherein the Brics member states pledged to "relentlessly pursue" outfits designated terrorist groups by the UNSC, but what has hurt the government more, sources said, is Russia's disinclination to argue India's case.

The result, of course, was a declaration which failed to address India's core concern, or the issue of state-sponsored terrorism. What compounded the matter for India was Russia's recent military flirtation with Pakistan in the form of an anti-terror exercise. In current global power play, Russia is increasingly seen as needing China more than the other way round, but Moscow's submission to Beijing's position on an issue related to India's security has still come as a revelation to New Delhi.

While Russia did not help India name-check JeM, which perpetrated both the Pathankot and Uri attacks, in the declaration, it ensured that Syria-based Jabhat al-Nusra was. As it seeks to bolster the Bashar al-Assad regime, Russia has continued to target al-Nusra, which it accuses of pursuing, through barbaric methods, a caliphate in Syria. Al-Nusra is among the groups fighting to topple al-Assad.

Like Nusra, JeM and LeT too are proscribed by the UN. Strategic affairs expert Brahma Chellaney said Moscow appeared willing to accommodate India's concerns, but, in the face of Chinese opposition, shied away. "The result was that the declaration failed to mention the most potent form of terrorism in the world, which is state-sponsored," he added.

With Russia doing precious little for India, China has managed to shield Pakistani terrorism not only at the UN Security Council but also at a multilateral summit on Indian soil. In doing so, Chellaney said, China rode roughshod over Indian concerns and showed itself culpable in the killing of 26 Indian soldiers at Uri and Pathankot.{ I am glad that Brahma Chellaney is saying that. I said already that I suspected a Chinese hand in Uri}

While Russia itself has been the clear winner in terms of Brics' focus on security-related issues, China continues to calls the shots on financial issues, leading to questions about the utility of Brics for India. "China uses Brics to advance its economic and political interests, including dominating the two financial mechanisms that the grouping has set up. But what does India get from Brics?" Chellaney said. "Goa showed that while China manages to get its own way, even at India's expense, Indian officials do little other than put on a brave face. Even earlier, when China secured the right to host the Brics bank, Indian officials were left flaunting a consolation prize — that an Indian would be the bank's first president," he added.

The Goa Declaration came just a day after President Vladimir Putin assured PM Narendra Modi that Russia would do nothing to hurt India's interests. But, as MEA secretary Amar Sinha admitted, there was no consensus on naming Pakistan-based terror groups because other nations are not affected by their actions.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby Bheeshma » 18 Oct 2016 09:56

India should have blocked any reference to Syria also. It does not affect as in any way. Modi is still finding his way in international politics. Next time he should block any reference to Syria or other places that do not affect us.

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Postby Paul » 18 Oct 2016 10:25

^better way is to give visas to Uighur dissidents and increase tariffs on Chinese Steel. Limit the damage to China....

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Postby Paul » 18 Oct 2016 10:35

With this setback, we should not sign the FGFA contract without getting a clear understanding where this relationship is going. Now even after this if BRFites keep questioning the Rafale deal and LEMOA, Then it is clear they are not reading the signals.

Thankfully Putin did not tie S400 to signing the FGFA contract, wonder how he let that slip through his fingers

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Postby Bheeshma » 18 Oct 2016 10:41

The LEMOA does not concern russia since we will not let US have a base here. Additionally LEMOA only screws china and Russia knows it. The FGFA and MTA are DoA. I hope we sign and build the C-295 soon and C-130's can be the new MTA.

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Postby Gyan » 18 Oct 2016 11:05

We have to get over emotions and learn to enter into era of transactional relations even with Russia. Putin did not fall over himself to help India even during Parakaram. He will view India as a nation to whom he sells weapons through arms dealers and bribe givers. Who cares, about joint statement? Can we excercise WTO national security provisions and ban all imports From China (without urgent need license) or not? First control US$ 60 billion dollar trade deficit with China then ask other nations to help out.

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Postby svinayak » 18 Oct 2016 12:23



China comparing with Pakistan and India on trade. New Generation of China are visiting India and know India trade will become big.

Pak used to be biggest trading partner in south asia 25 years ago

Now China says its trade with India has increased. They want more but they have a dilemma with Pak.

India has to help China to make the decision

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Postby svinayak » 18 Oct 2016 12:28

India has to have a strategy of doubling trade with CHINA as China strategy at policy. CHINA knows that India will grow and will go close to US

India should give the freedom to Indian people to decide if India wants to buy China product.

Indian people should veto based on China reducing terrorist support to Pakistan



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Postby Philip » 18 Oct 2016 12:35

http://defencenews.in/article/Pakistan- ... -Tank-8784

Pakistan has lost all 'International Credibility' :: US Think Tank
Monday, October 17, 2016
By: ET

Pakistan has lost the benefit of doubt before the international community due to its support to non-state actors against India, a top American think-tank today warned Islamabad that it will continue to lose traction unless it reverses this policy.

"When Pakistan crossed the nuclear threshold, Rawalpindi (Pakistan military) had the choice of shutting down militant, anti-India groups because they were no longer needed to keep India at bay - or using its deterrent as a backdrop to step up a campaign to change the status quo in Kashmir," Michael Krepon, co-founder of the Stimson Center, a US think tank said.

"Rawalpindi chose poorly. Until Pakistan reverses this choice, it will continue to lose traction," Krepon said in an op-ed.

"Rawalpindi has received high marks for the counterinsurgency campaign waged against the Pakistani Taliban, overriding foot-dragging by political leaders. Because of this campaign, deadly explosions on Pakistani soil have been greatly reduced," he said.

"Groups active in attacks across Kashmir divide and in Afghanistan have been outside the ambit of this campaign. Turning against these groups will mean more explosions, but not turning against these groups will also increase internal-security concerns, while compounding Pakistan's international woes," Krepon said.

"This choice is obviously a lose-lose proposition, but postponing this choice even longer won't make it any easier. Pakistan will lose more by pursuing the same policies and by relying on the same old talking points than by changing course," he warned.

"The hard, unavoidable truth is that Pakistan can only achieve internal security and international credibility by taking overt steps against the usual suspects," he noted.

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Postby svinayak » 18 Oct 2016 13:04

Philip wrote:http://defencenews.in/article/Pakistan-has-lost-all-International-Credibility--US-Think-Tank-8784

Pakistan has lost all 'International Credibility' :: US Think Tank
Monday, October 17, 2016
By: ET

Pakistan has lost the benefit of doubt before the international community due to its support to non-state actors against India, a top American think-tank today warned Islamabad that it will continue to lose traction unless it reverses this policy.

"When Pakistan crossed the nuclear threshold, Rawalpindi (Pakistan military) had the choice of shutting down militant, anti-India groups because they were no longer needed to keep India at bay - or using its deterrent as a backdrop to step up a campaign to change the status quo in Kashmir," Michael Krepon, co-founder of the Stimson Center, a US think tank said.

"Rawalpindi chose poorly. Until Pakistan reverses this choice, it will continue to lose traction," Krepon said in an op-ed.

"Rawalpindi has received high marks for the counterinsurgency campaign waged against the Pakistani Taliban, overriding foot-dragging by political leaders. Because of this campaign, deadly explosions on Pakistani soil have been greatly reduced," he said.


These are little inaccurate article. Uncle first gave Pak the policy of low intensity conflict with a nuke cover in 1987,
That was carried on until 1998 test. They continued to use it during Kargil and after 911.

This uncles advice with State backing from US is something Pak cannot get out of since they were used to US state backing them with global propaganda. Now Uncle has lost power to change the Pak state since Pak state has become slave of this policy and slave of the non state actors. legitimacy of jehad as a policy for freedom fighter was started by US policy from President Carter.


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Postby Peregrine » 18 Oct 2016 17:08

Pakistani agents making calls to executives at oil installations to extract key details

NEW DELHI: Indian oil installations are on Pakistan's radar. The Intelligence Bureau has advised the oil ministry to step up safety and information shield at important energy installations after it intercepted a conversation in which a Pakistani spy was heard extracting information from an oil industry executive.

Since the September 18 terror attack in Uri+ and the retaliatory surgical strikes+ by the Indian Army on terror camps across the Line of Control in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir, there have been fears of an escalation of conflict on both sides of the border prompting defence forces and intelligence agencies to be on high alert.

IB recently intercepted a conversation in which a Pakistani operative, posing as an officer of India's external intelligence agency, the Research & Analysis Wing, engaged on phone an executive managing a sensitive hydrocarbon pipeline in Rajasthan and sought finer details about the facility, sources with direct knowledge of the matter said.

IB has warned that several Pakistani spies are making pseudonymous calls from across the border as well as within India to executives at oil installations to extract details, sources said. It suggested that oil industry executives be sensitised so they do not end up sharing vital information.

An oil ministry spokesman said the home ministry handles internal security matters and will take appropriate action. A spokesman for Indian Oil Corp said the country's largest refiner has sensitised its officials and security personnel at refineries in North India in this regard.

Blowing up a pipeline or damaging a refinery can cause long-term harm by triggering energy shortage in some regions besides the loss of lives and infrastructure.

Installations in Rajasthan, Gujarat and Punjab, which share their border with Pakistan, are always seen as the most vulnerable to enemy attacks. In the past too, India's top refineries — Reliance Industries' 60-million-tonne per annum refining complex, the world's largest, Essar's 20-million-tonne plant in Gujarat, and HPCL-Mittal's 9-million-tonne refinery in Punjab — have faced terror threats although they have not been attacked. Indian Oil Corp also has a 14-million-tonne refinery in Gujarat. Together, these four facilities constitute about 45% of India's refining capacity.

India's biggest onshore oil field, which accounts for a quarter of the country's crude oil production, is located in the border district of Barmer in Rajasthan. Cairn India operates this field as well as a pipeline that carries crude to refineries.

The Central Industrial Security Force guards most oil refineries in the country. Pipelines are usually more vulnerable as they aren't constantly watched, and most companies do not employ very sophisticated technologies to ensure safety.

Attacking oil installations serves terror groups' bigger agenda to cripple the Indian economy that has been growing at the fastest pace among all major economies in the world.
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Postby anupmisra » 18 Oct 2016 17:28

Mirage jet crashes in Karachi

A Pakistan Air Force (PAF) Mirage jet crashed near Karachi's Musharraf Colony area on Tuesday, police said, adding the pilot Fayyaz has been killed
routine operational training mission


Harami link: http://www.dawn.com/news/1290726/pilot- ... in-karachi

Waiting for baki reports on the pilot who attained martyrdom by crashing his hawaii tayyara deliberately to avoid civilian casualties.

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Postby schinnas » 18 Oct 2016 18:04

@SSridhar-ji,
Do you think China's overt support to Pukistan on Uri is their reaction to India supporting right of self-determination of Balochistan and GK, which basically kills land connectivity between Pak and Chin and Arabian sea connectivity through Pak for China?

I do see this as an escalation in terms of concrete actions and public posture by China and not just a tacit support of their munna from embarrassment.


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Postby SBajwa » 18 Oct 2016 19:00

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Piracy?

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I am not sure! It says Muftbooks.wordpress.com and book has been online since 2014.

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Postby salaam » 18 Oct 2016 19:45

some questions are better left unasked...
some questions are better left unanswered...

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Postby SSridhar » 18 Oct 2016 20:10

schinnas wrote:Do you think China's overt support to Pukistan on Uri is their reaction to India supporting right of self-determination of Balochistan and GK, which basically kills land connectivity between Pak and Chin and Arabian sea connectivity through Pak for China?

schinnas, the India-China relationship reached 'enemy-grade' in Chinese eyes in c. 1959. India has simply refused to accept that fact just as it refused to accept the fact until January 2, 2016 (or, as some think until Sep. 18, 2016) that Pakistan is a mortal enemy which is simply *NOT* going to give up its hostility and that its aim is either to sink us or make us sink with it. India has not yet reached the determination that China also has an enduring hostility with us and will *NOT* change. Balochistan & GB can be good excuses but China does not need any to consider us as their enemy. We make a mistake if we consider one without the other. It is Chin-Pak.

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Postby TKiran » 18 Oct 2016 20:44

Baluchistan case may be weak as even Tibet armed resistance withered away, we lost Tibet card in 2003 when vajpayee accepted Tibet as integral part of China.

Only card we have is PoK, and like OBOR, we should take initiative to connect to Afghanistan via PoK by liberating it and collecting toll for any trade between China and Pakistan. Still Gwadar is lost to China. They have a naval base there, even without CPEC

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Postby shiv » 18 Oct 2016 21:53

SBajwa wrote:I am not sure! It says Muftbooks.wordpress.com and book has been online since 2014.


The Kindle edition costs just Rs 183 so to be fair we must buy

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Postby Bheeshma » 18 Oct 2016 21:53

Gwadar has no connectivity and is isolated. It can be choked and targeted by non state actors. BLA has been good at targeting chinese, they just require our diplomatic and moral support. :rotfl:. PoK must be set taken back so there is a route to central asia.

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Postby Prem » 18 Oct 2016 21:55

TKiran wrote:Baluchistan case may be weak as even Tibet armed resistance withered away, we lost Tibet card in 2003 when vajpayee accepted Tibet as integral part of China.Only card we have is PoK, and like OBOR, we should take initiative to connect to Afghanistan via PoK by liberating it and collecting toll for any trade between China and Pakistan. Still Gwadar is lost to China. They have a naval base there, even without CPEC


IMHO,This is the only possible leash with which we can tie both Jadugar and Its Jamura and make them dance to our Bollywood tune. Looking at the map , it looks like the thin neck ready to be squeezed.This neck breaking window will close in 5-6 years.

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Postby Peregrine » 18 Oct 2016 22:11

Karan Johar finally breaks his silence on ‘Ae Dil Hai Mushkil’ controversy!
Filmmaker Karan Johar on Tuesday broke his silence over the controversy around his film "Ae Dil Hai Mushkil" and released a video statement in which he said that "he will not engage with talent from Pakistan."

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Postby Falijee » 18 Oct 2016 23:00

China, Pakistan flags recovered from terror hideouts; 44 held
Srinagar: Possibly for the first time in Kashmir, security forces have recovered Chinese flags along with incriminating material during raids at suspected hideouts of militants in Baramulla and arrested 44 people for their alleged involvement in "terror-related activiites".
"Over 700 houses were searched in a span of 12 hours on October 17 in an extensive search operation in old town in Baramulla, during which 44 persons involved with terror related activities have been apprehended," an army spokesman said here tonight.The security forces sanitised the area and a number of hideouts were busted during the operation, the spokesman said."A large quantity of incriminating material such as petrol bombs, Chinese and Pakistani flags, Lashker-e-Toiba (LeT) and Jaish-e-Mohammad (JeM) letter head pads, unauthorized mobile phones and seditious anti-national publicity material were seized," he added.He said the operation was jointly carried out by teams of army, police, BSF and CRPF in 10 sensitive localities including Qazi Hamam, Ganai Hamam, Taweed Gunj, Jamia and other mohallas reportedly being used as "safe havens by the terrorists".

If "Chini blothers" can look the other way at nuclear proliferation between Pakiland and North Korea,(and do nothing to stop that !) "recovery" of a few Chinese flags should not come as a surprise !

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Postby CRamS » 18 Oct 2016 23:23

Peregrine wrote:Karan Johar finally breaks his silence on ‘Ae Dil Hai Mushkil’ controversy!
Filmmaker Karan Johar on Tuesday broke his silence over the controversy around his film "Ae Dil Hai Mushkil" and released a video statement in which he said that "he will not engage with talent from Pakistan."

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Rubbish. He is coming out because he wants his film released to rake in the required moolah. He may have also been "advised" by his Paki handlers. They stand to gain too. And he is too clever by half, at least his Paki handlers, when the dust settles in a few weeks, i.e., when Paki SDERs in India dominate, everything will be forgotten. So his immediate goal is to get that filth of a movie released.

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Postby KJo » 18 Oct 2016 23:26

Peregrine wrote:Karan Johar finally breaks his silence on ‘Ae Dil Hai Mushkil’ controversy!
Filmmaker Karan Johar on Tuesday broke his silence over the controversy around his film "Ae Dil Hai Mushkil" and released a video statement in which he said that "he will not engage with talent from Pakistan."

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I think we need to be smart about this banning exercise. We should not hurt our own people. Now for ADHM, payments have already been done for the Paki actors so there is nothing that can be done. Why cause loss to KJo and others? Let the movie run. Movies that are not complete yet with Paki actors should need to go through a review. Directors should remove these people on their own or appeal in case removing causes too much loss.

In a few months, all movies would be purged of Jihadi "talent" without loss to Indians.

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Postby Prem » 18 Oct 2016 23:27

Watch Mushiya and Dukhiya crying bucket . at 5.00 Baluchis and Pathans are not commodities to be bought.
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Postby schinnas » 18 Oct 2016 23:28

SSridhar wrote: the India-China relationship reached 'enemy-grade' in Chinese eyes in c. 1959. India has simply refused to accept that fact just as it refused to accept the fact until January 2, 2016 (or, as some think until Sep. 18, 2016) that Pakistan is a mortal enemy which is simply *NOT* going to give up its hostility and that its aim is either to sink us or make us sink with it. India has not yet reached the determination that China also has an enduring hostility with us and will *NOT* change. Balochistan & GB can be good excuses but China does not need any to consider us as their enemy. We make a mistake if we consider one without the other. It is Chin-Pak.


Thank you. I hope this reality sets in amongst our decision making circles.

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Postby Cosmo_R » 18 Oct 2016 23:47

^^^I've said this before the religion card is a big one we can play against China. Both Buddhism and Islam

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Postby Falijee » 18 Oct 2016 23:54

This chaiwala aka tea seller in Pakistan is an internet sensation; check out his photos
In India, a Chaiwala is " PM material ", in Pakiland, a Chaiwala is a Chaiwala onlee !!

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Postby Skanda » 19 Oct 2016 00:18

KJo wrote:


I think we need to be smart about this banning exercise. We should not hurt our own people. Now for ADHM, payments have already been done for the Paki actors so there is nothing that can be done. Why cause loss to KJo and others? Let the movie run. Movies that are not complete yet with Paki actors should need to go through a review. Directors should remove these people on their own or appeal in case removing causes too much loss.

In a few months, all movies would be purged of Jihadi "talent" without loss to Indians.


Most people who work in movies (Technicians/background singers/side-actors/choreographers/.....) will get paid irrespective of whether the movie gets released/becomes a hit or flops. These are middle-class folks and they cant be made to wait till a movie gets released to be paid. Thats why a Producer finances the movie.

The only people who will take a blow when a movie is not release or flops are Producers and actors who tie in their income from the movie as a percent of how much the movie makes post release. Johar is the director and Producer for this movie and he will bear the brunt of this movie not being released. And it serves him right. These people with their fancy life-styles are so lost that once in a while they need a jolt to wake up to reality. As they say, once bitten...

I dont think anyone is crying.

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Postby Gagan » 19 Oct 2016 03:40

Pakistan Wake Up India Will be World's third Largest Economy in next 15 Year

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU7758pPbuc

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Postby KJo » 19 Oct 2016 04:43

Skanda wrote:
KJo wrote:
I think we need to be smart about this banning exercise. We should not hurt our own people. Now for ADHM, payments have already been done for the Paki actors so there is nothing that can be done. Why cause loss to KJo and others? Let the movie run. Movies that are not complete yet with Paki actors should need to go through a review. Directors should remove these people on their own or appeal in case removing causes too much loss.

In a few months, all movies would be purged of Jihadi "talent" without loss to Indians.


Most people who work in movies (Technicians/background singers/side-actors/choreographers/.....) will get paid irrespective of whether the movie gets released/becomes a hit or flops. These are middle-class folks and they cant be made to wait till a movie gets released to be paid. Thats why a Producer finances the movie.

The only people who will take a blow when a movie is not release or flops are Producers and actors who tie in their income from the movie as a percent of how much the movie makes post release. Johar is the director and Producer for this movie and he will bear the brunt of this movie not being released. And it serves him right. These people with their fancy life-styles are so lost that once in a while they need a jolt to wake up to reality. As they say, once bitten...

I dont think anyone is crying.


That's the thing. Why should KJo bear the financial brunt when he did nothing illegal? The GoI gave them visas and there have been several Pakis working in India for years now and no one said a thing. The rules were just changed on him mid-movie, so it is not fair to penalize him now.

There are so many people who are really anti-national and we are making an example of KJo.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby SSharma » 19 Oct 2016 04:51

KJo just happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time.

besides, he did not do himself any favours by speaking up for the paki actors
he could have said that though he has cast a paki, he now regrets it, supports the army action fully, or something to those effects.

surely the public would have lapped up his fake comments, but instead he chose to stand by his latest boy toy.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby Falijee » 19 Oct 2016 04:53

Paki Media Speculates As To The Identity Of The Leaker In The Almeida Fiasco !
THE WHO'S WHO OF THE LEAKS SPECULATION
Intense speculation by politicians and journalists has pointed to many key names in civilian circles regarding the source of the National Security Meeting leaks. This report explores why some of them might have made the list.
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-The federal government, which is itself alleged to be behind the leak, is promising to hold an inquiry to trace the source whose conversation with Dawn staffer, Cyril Almeida, has caused tremors in the country’s civil-military landscape.Official sources say all four provincial chief ministers along with CM Gilgit-Baltistan were part of the Oct.3 meeting, which was held at the Prime Minister House.The following cabinet ministers and high-ranking officials were in attendance: 1. Mr Muhammad Ishaq Dar, Minister for Finance 2. Ch Nisar Ali Khan, Minister for Interior 3. Mr Pervaiz Rashid, Minister for Information 4. General Raheel Sharif, Chief of Army Staff 5. Mr Tariq Fatemi, SAPM 6. Lt Gen (R) Nasser Khan Janjua, NSA 7. Lt Gen Rizwan Akhtar, DG ISI 8. Mr Aizaz Ahmad Ch, Foreign Secretary 9. Mr Aftab Sultan, DG IB 10. Mr Fawad Hasan Fawad, SPM 11. Maj. Gen Sahir Shamshad Mirza, DG MO & 12. Maj Gen Nadeem Zaki Manj, DG MlThe military officials are not believed to be behind the leak.The speculation windmill has churned out the following government names – some not in attendance --to be behind the ‘leak.’The Nation does not necessarily agree with or endorse these insinuations.
It is difficult to believe that the government will seriously pursue finding the source since the alleged person is believed to one amongst its own ranks.Dawn’s staffer Cyril Almeida has already been struck off the Exit Control List and any subsequent inquiry into the matter is expected to fizzle out.Most analysts agree that the leak was intended to gain a tactical advantage by the civilians at a time when the appointment of the new army chief is just weeks away. As the army was pushed on the back-foot, the Prime Minister gained more leverage.On Friday, the military’s top corps commanders issued a press statement, expressing concern over the “feeding of (a) false and fabricated story of an important security meeting” held at PM House. The corps commanders also viewed it as a “breach of national security.”It portends that the military will not leave the government off the hook that easily.
Published in The Nation newspaper on 16-Oct-2016


As with so many past enquiries , this one is also destined for a natural death

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby SSharma » 19 Oct 2016 04:54

i would have loved the example being made of someone like srk, amir khan or mahesh bhatt.

but sadly they arent releasing a movie right now, so either we take what we can get or again show our chankianess.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby Prem » 19 Oct 2016 05:08

Pakistan to launch remote sensing satellite in 2018’

Paki Mushsensingmusing
KARACHI: The country is all set to launch its first remote sensing satellite, which is currently in development stages, in 2018, said Pakistan Space and Upper Atmosphere Research Commission (Suparco) chairperson Qaiser Anees Khurram on Monday.The satellite will be used for monitoring China Pakistan Economic Corridor projects, federal development minister Ahsan Iqbal had announced in Islamabad this April on the occasion of signing of an agreement between Suparco and the China Great Wall Industry Cooperation.Other than this, Suparco, in collaboration with Pakistan International Airlines Planetarium, Karachi, will organise sky simulation shows and lectures for school students from October 18 to October 21 as part of the space week.The celebrations will conclude with a two-day space family fair which will be held at PAF Museum on October 22 and October 23. The fair will include many space-related activities such as space movie theatre, sky observation, micro-gravity experiments, robotic manipulator, university project competition, model-making competition and display of satellite models. The activities of World Space Week will be held simultaneously in 14 cities across the country.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby surendra » 19 Oct 2016 05:09

KJo wrote:
That's the thing. Why should KJo bear the financial brunt when he did nothing illegal? The GoI gave them visas and there have been several Pakis working in India for years now and no one said a thing. The rules were just changed on him mid-movie, so it is not fair to penalize him now.

There are so many people who are really anti-national and we are making an example of KJo.



GOI is not orchestrating a campaign against Karan Johar. Many people have lost their lives just for being Indian citizens because of Pak action. Public is upset and it looks like they will not see the movie in large numbers. Cinema theater owners are just acting in their self interest to avoid any damage to their properties.

Irrespective of whether the GOI gave visas or not, Karan knows the history of Indo-Pak relations and still chose to hire Paki actors. This is also a financial risk he took looking at the market across the border.

If Karan Johar and the film's distributors lose money on this film because they hired Paki actors, Bhaiwood will think thrice before hiring any Paki actors in future.
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