Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby rsingh » 01 Sep 2016 22:18

g.sarkar wrote:http://www.rediff.com/news/report/pak-bans-entry-of-afghans-having-indian-visa-on-passport/20160830.htm
Pak bans entry of Afghans having Indian visa on passport
Slapping fresh sanctions on Afghan nationals, Pakistan has now banned entry for Afghans having an Indian visa in their passports.
Director of Hamid Karzai International Airport, Mohammad Asif Jabbarkhail said on Tuesday that over the past few days, Pakistan has deported or banned entry to at least 10 Afghans after finding Indian visas in their passports, reports Tolo News.
Responding to this new sanction, Afghanistan’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs has said the decision is unacceptable and that Kabul has resumed negotiations with Islamabad to resolve the issue.
“It is a disputed issue, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs conducts discussions with Pakistan officials to resolve the problems of our citizens,” said MoFA spokesman Ahmad Shekib Mustaghni.....
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How many Afgans take passport with them,let alone Visa? They just cross over without any document. Bakistan will have to erect thousands of km of fence to enforce passport regime.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby rsingh » 01 Sep 2016 22:20

Prem wrote:'War against terror cost Pakistan $107bn': DG ISPR Asim Bajwa briefs on progress under Operation Zarb-i-Azb :eek:
Paki Math Yaan Meth Calculation

RAW-AL-PINDI: Director-General (DG) Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) Asim Bajwa on Thursday gave an exhaustive rundown of progress made during Operation Zarb-i-Azb.The Army killed 900 terrorists during the Khyber operation, Bajwa said, and dismantled the network of terrorists that was threatening areas in the immediate surroundings, such as Peshawar."We started operations in Shawal, where all the terrorists from North Waziristan went. It was their last stronghold and they had nowhere to go after that. The operation went well and we cleared every village, every house, every school and every mosque in Shawal.""Shawal is like Switzerland now," Bajwa claimed. "The residents are slowly returning, but they want the Army to stay on and provide stability and revive the economy. Pine nuts are grown in great quantities there. Terrorists were selling them to fund themselves, but now the locals will benefit.""Terrorists were frustrated at the time with all the Intelligence-based Operations (IBOs) going on and tried to change hats. The core group had 20-25 people," he said. These people were responsible for the attacks on the Faisalabad Dunya office, Lahore Din News office, Express News Sargodha office, and ARY News Islamabad office, he said."Lots of terrorists who crossed into neighbouring districts in eastern Afghanistan have built concentration camps."
The entire nation has borne the cost of the war against terrorism, which tallied up to $106.9 billion, Bajwa said.During Operation Zarb-i-Azb, 536 soldiers were killed and 2,272 were injured, Bajwa said, whereas 3,500 terrorists were killed. ( This is about 30 Million $ per p-terrorist)^Responding to a question about Muttahida Qaumi Movement chief Altaf Hussain's anti-Pakistan statements, Bajwa termed Hussain a foreigner residing 5,000km away from Pakistan."It is unacceptable for every Pakistani if Altaf Hussain raises anti-Pakistan slogans. The government is already taking action on this issue."There has been lots of action on the ground against his incitement to violence. People have been caught and action taken... Everything is before you," Bajwa said.


Bakistani Switzerland
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby anupmisra » 02 Sep 2016 04:53

Remember this guy, Mushy, in 2006?

http://governmentofbalochistan.blogspot ... chive.html

Pakistani military dictator General Musharraf promises to “fix” the Baloch leaders ! General Musharraf insults Nawab Akbar Khan Bugti by saying, “I would not call him a Nawab, as he is on the run (as a coward).”

Where's he now? On the run, again. Karma is a she-dog.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby sum » 02 Sep 2016 05:49

Air Chief Marshal Arup Raha on Thursday rued that air power had not been fully utilised by the Indian government till the 1971 war and indicated that PoK would have been India's had the country gone for a military solution rather than taking a "moral high ground".

In unusually candid remarks, the Air Force chief termed Pakistani-occupied Kashmir as a "thorn in our flesh" and said India did not follow a "pragmatic approach" to security needs.

If this is not psy-ops, not sure what is. :twisted: :twisted:

Slowly, the Doval doctorine seems to be showing up ( literally every point he talked of in his pre-NSA lectures are starting to show up in one form or others)

Will be a interesting 3 years ( and hopefully more if NaMo holds on after 2019)

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby SSridhar » 02 Sep 2016 06:00

jagga wrote:POK Still a Thorn in our Flesh

I am delighted by the candour with which the Air Chief has said that Nehru didn't listen to the military's advice then etc.

Above all, the air bridge established by the fledgeling and intrepid IAF in besieged Poonch in 1947 which was sustained for a long time is a remarkable achievement as comparable to, if not greater than, the Berlin one by the Allies. Unfortunately, not many are aware of this.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby shiv » 02 Sep 2016 06:16

rsingh wrote:Bakistan will have to erect thousands of km of fence to enforce passport regime.

They will take loan from Sri Lanka or Nepal for that

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby Prem » 02 Sep 2016 07:01

shiv wrote:
rsingh wrote:Bakistan will have to erect thousands of km of fence to enforce passport regime.

They will take loan from Sri Lanka or Nepal for that


Beerather Mulaq Maldives & Somalia have offered cash assistance to Nuclear Powered Leader of Ummah, Pakistan .

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby wig » 02 Sep 2016 09:51

http://www.ndtv.com/world-news/terroris ... eststories

Terrorists Attack Christian Colony In Pak's Peshawar
one civilian and two suspected terrorists were killed in a terror attack in Pakistan's Peshawar city today morning, security sources said.

The exchange of fire between an unknown number of gunmen and law enforcement personnel reportedly began around 6 am near the Christian Colony which lies close to the Pakistan-Afghanistan border

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby arun » 02 Sep 2016 10:48

dnivas wrote:
arun wrote:Publisher of the Pakistan Observer, the news paper that is credited for the inclusion of the term “Earth-e-shaster” in the BRF Dictionary, passes on:

Pakistan Observer publisher Zahid Malik passes away

Incidentally has the BRF Dictionary met its 72 in the great corruption of the BR forum? I could not find it.


Still available
https://sites.google.com/site/brfdictionary/


Thank You dnivas.

Mods, Can this not be carried on the BR Site itself?

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby arun » 02 Sep 2016 11:53

On the day of the Mohammadden Sabbath of Friday, Green on Green Intra-Mohammadden violence sees a demonstration of the IED Mubarak variant of the IEDology of Pakistan with the District Courtin Mardan getting suicide bombed killing 12:

At least 12 killed, 52 wounded in suicide blast at Mardan district courts

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby SSridhar » 02 Sep 2016 13:28

Pakistan Punjab Assembly considers inviting Arundhati Roy for Kashmir Issue - DT
Treasury MPA Sheikh Allauddin has suggested the Punjab Assembly to invite Indian novelist and rights activist Arundhati Roy, who is raising her voice against Indian atrocities in Kashmir, for briefing the assembly members on the issue.

Labour and Human Resource Minister Raja Ashfaq Sarwar appreciated the suggestion and drew attention of the house towards its legal and diplomatic aspects. He said the Foreign Office might be approached in this respect and the next step should be taken in the light of the department’s advice.

The Punjab Assembly on Thursday again expressed solidarity with the Kashmiris’ struggle for freedom from India.

On a point of order, treasury member Ramesh Singh Arora raised the issue of Indian Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar’s statement against Pakistan. Terming the statement regrettable, he demanded the Foreign Office summon the Indian ambassador to record a protest. He said New Delhi was not only committing atrocities against the Kashmiris for demanding their right to franchise but also accusing Islamabad of fomenting violence in Kashmir. The propaganda against Pakistan must be checked, he said.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

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SSridhar wrote:Pakistan Punjab Assembly considers inviting Arundhati Roy for Kashmir Issue - DT
Treasury MPA Sheikh Allauddin has suggested the Punjab Assembly to invite Indian novelist and rights activist Arundhati Roy, who is raising her voice against Indian atrocities in Kashmir, for briefing the assembly members on the issue.

Labour and Human Resource Minister Raja Ashfaq Sarwar appreciated the suggestion and drew attention of the house towards its legal and diplomatic aspects. He said the Foreign Office might be approached in this respect and the next step should be taken in the light of the department’s advice.

The Punjab Assembly on Thursday again expressed solidarity with the Kashmiris’ struggle for freedom from India.

On a point of order, treasury member Ramesh Singh Arora raised the issue of Indian Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar’s statement against Pakistan. Terming the statement regrettable, he demanded the Foreign Office summon the Indian ambassador to record a protest. He said New Delhi was not only committing atrocities against the Kashmiris for demanding their right to franchise but also accusing Islamabad of fomenting violence in Kashmir. The propaganda against Pakistan must be checked, he said.


Ramesh Singh Arora

and it is to people in pakilund who voted for this execrable creature, that the Modi govt is hell bent on giving preferential Indian citizenships??

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby Kashi » 02 Sep 2016 18:10

chetak wrote:Ramesh Singh Arora

and it is to people in pakilund who voted for this execrable creature, that the Modi govt is hell bent on giving preferential Indian citizenships??


MPAs/MNAs like Arora are not voted, they are nominated in Bakiland.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby SSridhar » 02 Sep 2016 18:36

Sardar Ramesh Singh Arora has been elected from a reserved constituency for minorities as a PML-N candidate. In the Punjab Provincial Assembly, 8 (out of 297 seats) are reserved for non-Muslims and in the National Assembly it is 10 out of 342 (from Wiki).

They can never contest from open seats.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby Kashi » 02 Sep 2016 18:52

SSridhar wrote:Sardar Ramesh Singh Arora has been elected from a reserved constituency for minorities as a PML-N candidate. In the Punjab Provincial Assembly, 8 (out of 297 seats) are reserved for non-Muslims and in the National Assembly it is 10 out of 342 (from Wiki).

They can never contest from open seats.


The "constitution" of Pakistan has this to say on the matter

"Article 51(6e) of the constitution says: “The members to the seats reserved for non-Muslims shall be elected in accordance with law through proportional representation system of political parties’ lists of candidates on the basis of total number of general seats won by each political party in the National Assembly.”"

But it's not entirely true that they can never contest from general seats.

http://www.upi.com/Non-Muslim-candidate ... 382136569/

Non-Muslim candidates largely absent in Pakistan's election
By AAMIR SAEED, May 7, 2013 at 12:57 PM

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan, May 7 (UPI Next) -- Few non-Muslims are running in Pakistan's planned May 11 election, a practice critics say reinforces non-Muslims' status as a poor underclass in this predominantly Muslim country.

Pakistan's major parties are ignoring Christians, Hindus and other minorities as potential candidates -- neither the ruling Pakistan People's Party of slain ex-leader Benazir Bhutto, nor its rival, the Pakistan Muslim League, the party of former premier Nawaz Sharif, have non-Muslims on their national parliamentary tickets.

There are non-Muslim candidates, but they are concentrated outside these two parties.

Ironically the country's largest religious party Jamaat-i-Islami, considered far more conservative than the supposedly secular Pakistan People's Party and Pakistan Muslim League, is running one non-Muslim candidate. In addition, cricketer-turned-politician Imran Khan's Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf, considered the party most sympathetic toward non-Muslims, has one Christian running for a seat in the southern commercial hub of Karachi, Pakistan's largest city.

Meanwhile, the Karachi-centered Muttahida Qaumi Movement party, whose leader, Altaf Hussein, is in exile in London, has outdone all other parties by nominating non-Muslims for 26 national and provincial legislature seats.

"Our party doesn't believe in the term 'minority'. All party workers are treated equally regardless of their religion, caste or creed," Wasay Jalil, a member of the Muttahida Qaumi Movement's Central Information Committee, said.

No non-Muslim has ever held a general parliamentary seat in Pakistan's 66-year history.

Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf spokeswoman Shireen Mazari said Pakistan has a long way to go to make non-Muslims part of electoral politics.

She termed non-Muslims "our brothers and sisters," saying, "We are here to stand by them through thick and thin."

Electoral politics, though, "is quite a different thing," which is why the party has only nominated one Christian candidate, she said.

Naila Joseph Dayal, a Christian running as an independent candidate for the National Assembly, the lower house of Pakistan's parliament, said discrimination against non-Muslims is keeping them from voting.

"The political parties fear a backlash from religious extremists if they award (election) tickets to minority candidates for general seats," Dayal said, referring to the process of selecting candidates.

"No political party has the courage to speak against religious fundamentalists. I'm contesting the election just to record my protest against all mainstream political parties," said Dayal, who heads the Christian Progressive Movement.

More than 95 percent of Pakistan's 193 million people are Muslims, according to the CIA's World Factbook. The 3.5 percent who follow other faiths include Hindus, Christians, Sikhs, Jews, Buddhists, Bahais, and Parsis. The figure also includes Ahmadis, members of a minority Islamic sect considered heretics by Pakistan's majority and labeled non-Muslim on electoral identification cards.

An April Human Rights Commission of Pakistan report said non-Muslims "are treated as second-class citizens," a contention backed up by Ashfaq Hassan Khan, a columnist and economics professor at Islamabad's National University of Sciences and Technology Business School.

Officials, he said, "do nothing to raise the education and economic standards of minorities." In addition, they fail to consider minority groups when drafting economic and education policies, he said.

Ten seats in the s 342-seat National Assembly have been reserved for non-Muslim minorities since 2002, with another 60 reserved for women.

Parties appoint candidates to the reserved seats after each election in proportion to the number of seats they hold in the parliament. From 2002 to 2007, six Christians, three Hindus and one Sikh held the reserved seats, while eight Hindus and two Christians have held the minority seats since 2008 in the outgoing parliament.

Although lawmakers in reserved seats have the same authority as elected members, they largely remain at the mercy of the parties that appointed them, which has opened the system to criticism.

Raza Rumi, director of the Jinnah Institute policy think tank in Islamabad, said the minority seats reflect tokenism and are ineffectual.

"Stringent legislation in favor of the minorities is the only solution," he said, which can only be achieved "if political parties award them tickets for general seats."

Hindu human rights activist Kapil Dev was also critical.

He said candidates appointed to reserved seats "are not our real representatives as they don't get a vote from us."


"They just serve the interests of their respective parties," he added.

Dev said a dual electoral system, catering separately to Muslims and non-Muslims, is needed "to protect minorities from persecution."

Ahmadis, however, have objected to being covered by a separate electoral system and rejected a separate electoral list as discrimination.

Most Ahmadis have boycotted past elections in protest of being declared non-Muslims, and Ahmadi leaders have said taking part in the polls would be an acceptance of the designation. There are 115,966 Ahmadis on Pakistan's officially non-Muslim voter rolls.

Under-representation of minorities has hurt efforts to draft laws in their favor, Paul Bhatti, a Christian and a former minister for minority affairs, said.

"No legislation has been made in the last five years to prevent persecution against the minorities despite my utmost efforts," he told UPI Next.

Bhatti's brother Shahbaz, Pakistan's first minister for minority affairs, and Salman Taseer, the governor of Punjab province, were assassinated in 2011 for campaigning to overhaul blasphemy laws, which are commonly misused to persecute non-Muslims.


So it would seem that non-muslims though eligible to be elected are in practice nominated by their respective political parties.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby JE Menon » 02 Sep 2016 20:57

Guys, don't blame a caged bird for whistling the song the owner sings... We don't know the conditions, and cannot possibly imagine the day to day.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby ArmenT » 02 Sep 2016 21:55

arun wrote:


Thank You dnivas.

Mods, Can this not be carried on the BR Site itself?

<Offtopic>I'm not a mod, but the dictionary is written using a different CMS and I'm guessing it would be difficult to port onto the BR site in my humble opinion. </Offtopic>

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby g.sarkar » 02 Sep 2016 22:16

Fridins are no longer boring in the Pureland:
http://www.livemint.com/Politics/HAIohT ... istan.html
Pakistan blast: 12 killed, 52 injured in suicide attack at Mardan district court Fri, Sep 02 2016.
A suicide bomber blew himself up at crowded Mardan district court, hours after security forces killed 4 suicide attackers who stormed a Christian colony in Peshawar
Peshawar: A suicide bomber on Friday blew himself up at crowded Mardan district court, killing 12 people and wounding 52 others, hours after security forces killed four suicide attackers who tried to storm a Christian neighbourhood in Peshawar in Pakistan’s restive Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa province.
The attacker detonated a hand grenade before exploding his suicide vest among the morning crowds at the main gate of Mardan district courts. “First there was a small blast followed by a big blast,” chief rescue officer in Mardan Haris Habib said.
“So far we have recovered 12 bodies of lawyers, police personnel and civilians. Besides this, we rescued 52 injured, including lawyers, police personnel and civilians from the spot,” Habib was quoted as saying by the Express Tribune. The injured have been shifted to a nearby hospital......
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby dnivas » 03 Sep 2016 03:36

i wish everyday was a Fridin in Pureland. esp in the pakjabi areas.

also interesting how pakjabi word has become pretty mainstream in Desi media.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby Prem » 03 Sep 2016 03:40

Brussell connection: Poakers are heavy on quoting Belgium

Pakistani man sentenced in US for trying to export military equipment
WASHINGTON: A Pakistani man was sentenced to 33 months in a US prison for attempting to export military equipment for the Pakistani military without a license, the US Justice Department said on Thursday.Syed Vaqar Ashraf had previously pleaded guilty to trying to procure gyroscopes and illegally ship them to Pakistan so they could be used by the Pakistani military, the Justice Department said in a news release.However, the claim that the equipment was meant for Pakistan military could not be confirmed.According to the US Justice Department, Ashraf had purchased the equipment in the name of a shell company and directed the shipment to be sent to Belgium.He was apprehended by the Belgium Federal Police at the request of US Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) agents on August 26, 2014.Ashraf was in the country to inspect and forward the gyroscopes to Pakistan.HSI had been conducting an undercover investigation of Ashraf's activities; the case was further investigated by Belgium Federal Police.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby sanjaykumar » 03 Sep 2016 09:17

http://www.dawn.com/news/1281486/advocating-kashmir


Pakistan’s stance is superior to India’s in terms of law, human rights and the wishes of the majority in the occupied Valley of Kashmir — which happens also to be the majority in India-held Kashmir.

Certainly, when you have this at home,

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby wig » 03 Sep 2016 09:46

http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/ ... ghters.php

kiyani's son exchanged for Zawahiri's daughters
Al Qaeda claims that two of Ayman al Zawahiri’s daughters and a third woman were released weeks ago in exchange for the son of General Ashfaq Pervez Kayani, Pakistan’s former spymaster who also served as the Chief of Army Staff until 2013.

The 20th edition of Al Masra magazine, which was posted online in late August, featured the claim on its front page. Al Masra is produced by a media shop affiliated with Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP), but it reports on news from all parts of al Qaeda’s global network.

The Long War Journal cannot independently confirm the hostage exchange. There does not appear to be any reporting in the Pakistani press indicating that Kayani’s son had been kidnapped, let alone involved in a high-profile hostage swap.

Al Qaeda sources announced in early August that Zawahiri’s daughters had been released. Independent accounts indicate that the global jihadist organization had been trying to secure their release in exchange for the kidnapped sons of Pakistan’s elite.
The editors of Al Masra included a box (seen on the right) highlighting the story on the front page and saying that “detaining” the “son of the Pakistani Army Commander” led to the release. The newsletter’s authors claimed a series of tweets posted online in mid-August provided the insider details of the story. A pdf of the tweets, with accompanying images, can be viewed here. WARNING: The tweets include graphic images of an alleged Pakistani spy beheaded by al Qaeda for supposedly leading authorities to Zawahiri’s daughters.

The author of the tweets (who wrote on an account that has since been suspended, @muhager_0) blasted the “apostate” Pakistani Army for selling out high-profile al Qaeda operatives to the Americans in the past, such as Abu Firaj al Libi, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and Abu Zubaydah.

In another tweet, the jihadist accused the Pakistani Army of detaining Zawahiri’s daughters, as well as the daughter of Sheikh Murjan Salem al Jawhari, as part of its “infidel” war on the mujahideen. The Twitter user, who is likely an al Qaeda media operative, further claimed that al Qaeda was left with two ways to deal with the situation. First, al Qaeda needed to take “revenge” on the supposed spy. Second, Allah “enabled the mujahideen” to detain the son of the Pakistani Army commander in order to exchange him “for the sisters.” He included a picture of Kayani to emphasize that this is the Pakistani leader he meant. Al Qaeda’s account referred to Kayani as if he is active, even though he has been retired for nearly three years.

The “prideful” Pakistani Army initially “refused” the proposed exchange, according to al Qaeda’s account, but eventually agreed to it after lengthy negotiations. Zawahiri’s daughters and the other woman, along with their children, were reportedly returned to Egypt.

It isn’t clear if the purported exchange took place in late July or early August.

As Sahab, the propaganda arm for al Qaeda’s senior leadership, released an unusual, thinly-veiled threat against the Pakistani Army in mid-July. The statement, dated June 2016, was attributed to “Al Qaeda Central” and dealt with the “treacherous” Pakistani Army’s detention of the three women and their children. Umaymah al Zawahiri and Fatimah al Zawahiri were identified, respectively, as the wives of Abu Dujana al Basha and Abu Basir al Urduni, both of whom are fallen al Qaeda commanders.

Al Jawhari’s daughter, Sumaiya Murjan Salem, was listed as the widow of Adnan al Shukrijumah, who was the chief of al Qaeda’s North American operations until he was killed during a Pakistani operation in Dec. 2014. Shukrijumah had been wanted by Amerian authorities for his role in a string of plots dating back to 2002 and 2003, when he was identified as a key operative in al Qaeda’s post-9/11 plans. He was also tied to a 2009 plot against New York City’s subways.
In its threatening message, Al Qaeda accused the Pakistanis of holding the three women and their children on the “orders of American intelligence” since 2014. The jihadists claimed at the time that the negotiations to free them had “failed.” Al Qaeda said it would hold the Pakistani government and its “American masters” responsible “for their criminal behavior.”

Just over two weeks later, on Aug. 5, al Qaeda’s social media channels lit up with news that Zawahiri’s two daughters and Shukrijumah’s widow had been released.

Did al Qaeda force the Pakistani government’s hand by kidnapping Kayani’s son? Again, The Long War Journal cannot substantiate the claim with independent evidence. But the tactic is entirely consistent with al Qaeda’s past schemes.

In May, US Special Operations Forces and Afghan Commandos rescued Ali Haider Gilani, the son of Pakistan’s former prime minister, in a joint raid. Afghan officials said they didn’t even know the younger Gilani was being held at the location that was raided. Several al Qaeda operatives were targeted and it was apparently fortuitous that Gilani was found with them. [See LWJ report: US, Afghan forces rescue son of former Pakistani prime minister from ‘al Qaeda cell’.]

Ali Haider Gilani was kidnapped in 2013. His father, Yusuf Raza Gilani, was Pakistan’s Prime Minister from 2008 to 2012. According to the Associated Press and other outlets, Yusuf Gilani claimed that the hostage-takers wanted “several al Qaeda prisoners” in exchange for his son.

After his release, Ali Gilani was more specific. “They wanted the government to release some women from [the] family of al Zawahiri and also demanded hefty ransom,” press reports quoted Gilani as saying.

That is, al Qaeda wanted to exchange Ali Gilani for Zawahiri’s daughters. This the same swap al Qaeda now claims it arranged for Kayani’s son. Additional kidnappings in Pakistan over the past few years may be related to the same aim.

The details of how al Qaeda secured the release of the three women are important for our understanding of the group’s operations inside Pakistan and Afghanistan. If the jihadist organization is merely boasting, then that is noteworthy. But if al Qaeda did manage to kidnap Kayani’s son and force the Pakistani government’s hand, then this indicates Zawahiri’s men have a disturbingly long reach inside of Pakistan. Although retired, Kayani is one of the most powerful figures in the Pakistani military and intelligence establishment, which has long sponsored jihadis, including the al Qaeda-allied Taliban.

Al Qaeda used its safe havens in Afghanistan to hold Ali Gilani. This further demonstrates the importance of al Qaeda’s Afghan redoubt as it operates in South Asia. Al Qaeda likely chose to hold Gilani in Afghanistan, as opposed to Pakistan, because it would be easier to hide him from Pakistani authorities. However, al Qaeda’s arm in Pakistan has been growing as well. For example, the Washington Post reported in early June that Pakistani counterterrorism officials “have a list of several hundred active al Qaeda members” in Karachi alone and assume “there are at least a few thousand on [Karachi’s] streets.”

Al Qaeda in the Indian Subcontinent (AQIS), which was formally announced by Zawahiri in September 2014, is growing in both Afghanistan and Pakistan. Verifying or disproving the claims surrounding Zawahiri’s daughters may shed additional light on this al Qaeda arm’s capabilities.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

Postby Deans » 03 Sep 2016 15:12

SSridhar wrote:All India Radio goes beyond Baloch, can now be heard in parts of Pakistan - PTI

We should help Afghanistan set up a few radio transmitters near its Pak borders and we must supply part of the programming. This would cover both Blaoch & Pashto speaking groups.

All India Radio (AIR) programmes can now be heard in regions of Pakistan occupied Kashmir (PoK) as well as in other parts+ of the neighbouring country.

The development comes after the Centre boosted the signal capacity of AIR transmission by installing a new 300 KV Digital Radio Mondial (DRM) transmitter in Jammu, official sources said on Wednesday.

The range of programmes transmitted from Jammu station of AIR [b]can now be heard beyond and areas of Pakistan's Punjab province
, they said.

With the introduction of DRM transmission, the sound waves are loud, steady and uniform, without missing gaps due to absence of disruption of signal, the sources said.

The programmes aired from Radio Kashmir Jammu station of All India Radio are now flawlessly audible across PoK and beyond. As a result, not only Radio Kashmir Jammu is widely heard in PoK but is also becoming increasingly popular with each passing day, they said.[/b]

Another remarkable headway in expanding radio reach is the decision for setting up an AIR station at Udhampur which had been a long pending demand for several decades.

The radio station at Udhampur will have a transmission range of 55 kms aerial radius with a terrestrial range even longer and the sound waves from this station will also be accessible in PoK, the sources said.

The land for setting up the station has been identified by Udhampur district administration in the vicinity of the city and formalities for the transfer and acquisition of land will be taken up soon, they said.

The setting up of a studio at Udhampur Radio Station will also be done by the Centre and AIR, the sources said.

The transmitter at Bhaderwah Radio Station in Jammu & Kashmir has already been upgraded on public demand and a high power transmitter is in the process of being installed at Patnitop for smooth onward transmission of radio signals in the entire region falling in Udhampur and erstwhile Doda districts, they said.


I had submitted a paper on our Pakistan policy some time back (some on the forum have had a preview), which speaks of this very thing - basically India develops Afghanistan's TV & Radio (using Bollywood as a hook) and provides news content in Balochi and Pashtu (why not stir up the restive tribals in FATA/WANA as well ?) Pak does not have the means to block transmissions from Afghanistan, which are ostensibly meant for Afghans only. Separately AIR increases broadcasts from Kashmir into POK & GB. I wouldn't like to get into details, suffice to say the paper has been discussed by decision makers in the Govt.

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Postby shiv » 03 Sep 2016 16:40

Like + 1, RT + 1 :D

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Postby arun » 03 Sep 2016 17:06

SSridhar wrote:All India Radio goes beyond Baloch, can now be heard in parts of Pakistan - PTI

We should help Afghanistan set up a few radio transmitters near its Pak borders and we must supply part of the programming. This would cover both Blaoch & Pashto speaking groups.


April 2016 article on use of Digital Radio Mondiale (DRM) for the cross-border broadcasting initiative:

“Personally, I think DRM is not a good option as its receivers cost around Rs. 15,000 and people may not buy such expensive receivers. People do listen to FM radio (available on cell phones) and car music systems) so it would have been nice to install more FM transmitters if the objective is to reach listeners. The only advantage of DRM is that it has a longer range than FM but if people are not going to listen, what is the point?” asks Girish Kumar, Professor at the Electrical Engineering Department of IIT Mumbai and who’s views were sought by Prasar Bharati Corporation.AIR had installed a 20KW FM transmitter in Fazilka, Punjab, to reach those who tune into the Urdu Service of AIR. A television tower — with a 230 metre tower for FM transmission — is reaching Pakistani listeners, where Doordarshan is banned.


From here:

Govt. goes digital for cross-border outreach

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Postby Peregrine » 03 Sep 2016 18:36

Another shot in the arm
Persuasion has its limits. This was amply demonstrated in the final interview of the former director of United Nations Development Programme (UNDP) for Pakistan, Marc-André Franche, who like many before him, eventually seemed to have lost the optimism that is usually the hallmark of all ‘development’ rhetoric.
A poverty rate of 40 percent coupled with 44 percent chronic child malnutrition (highest in the world), not to mention our stone-age literacy standards, should send shockwaves down the collective conscience of a civilised society.
Never mind Isis and others folks blowing stuff up , by 2025 Pakistan is to become a ‘water scarce’ country, signalling dire consequences for agriculture and an already alarming condition of food security. And as icing on the cake, every year Pakistan adds the equivalent of one New Zealand to its population, further strangling a fast depleting resource base.

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http://www.dawn.com/news/1281568/my-nig ... in-karachi
My nightmare experience of applying for a German visa in Karachi

My children were busy playing during the long wait. Every time, they came close to the security bar, the guards glared at me to rein them in.
In that time, two stray dogs comfortably crossed the barricade and were readily welcomed by the security men. One of the guards gave the dogs food to eat, and then let them rest near the security picket. They were definitely treated better than us.Five minutes before its opening time, the consulate's staff members began to emerge in big vehicles. The guards yelled at us to stand against the walls to make way for them. Security was on high alert and guns were pulled out.Oblivious to everything, my kids continued to play. One guard shouted at me to hold on to them, lest they hinder the movement of the staffers. I felt like my family and I were standing outside an embassy in Baghdad under an imminent threat.The staffers passed by us in their cars, giving us disdainful looks. They did not look like the same considerate Germans I had lived with during my five-year stay in Europe. Their looks made us feel like we are an inferior rabble, although they did smile at the stray dogs with affection.When they entered the consulate, we were ordered to form a queue in front of the security bar. A tall, well-built German security guard, who appeared by his demeanour to be superior to the others, came out of nowhere and gave out instructions.Under the supervision of the German security guard, we were allowed to cross the security bar one by one. During the frisking, I was ordered to make an awkward pose with my legs wide open.Soon I was cleared, and asked to wait for one more hour till the visa office opened.At the security check, I saw a bearded man’s photograph affixed on the wall with the word “Terrorist” written in large font, and a warning which I wasn't able to make out.After making my way to the visa counter, I handed over my application to a lady receptionist behind a glass window, who was speaking into a microphone.Before taking my documents, she told me curtly that if my children made any noise, they would be sent out with my wife. I was stung by the tone and wanted to retort that I didn't have control over a 1.5 year-old child but held myself back.A few minutes later, I found out that my family's application could not be entertained with mine, and that they would have to apply after I reached Germany.Devastated, I requested to meet with a senior visa officer. The officer's behaviour turned out to be just as disparaging as that shown by the rest of the staff, despite the fact that I was carrying host letters from renowned research institutes in Europe and was applying for a visa solely for research purpose.
I asked him why my case was being handled differently given that many research fellows in Pakistan have been granted family visas for Germany.
He replied with a frown:"I don’t care if someone has been granted a family visa and I don’t want to confirm either. Do as I say if you want to get a visa or leave."He left angrily, murmuring something.Left with no option, I surrendered and gave my application. My family can only apply for a visa after I reach Germany. My wife will have to travel alone with two young children all the way from Nawabshah to Erlangen.

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Postby shiv » 04 Sep 2016 08:43

Prem wrote:http://www.dawn.com/news/1281568/my-nightmare-experience-of-applying-for-a-german-visa-in-karachi
My nightmare experience of applying for a German visa in Karachi

My wife will have to travel alone with two young children all the way from Nawabshah to Erlangen.

And a woman travelling without a close male relative wil be declared a whore in the Islamic Republic of of Pakistan

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Postby g.sarkar » 04 Sep 2016 10:09

Prem wrote:
http://www.dawn.com/news/1281568/my-nig ... in-karachi
My nightmare experience of applying for a German visa in Karachi
Between 1977 and 1987, when I was in Germany, thousands of Pakistanis came as asylum seekers. No one was denied visa or ill treated, the German government spend thousands of marks on them. Germany has not changed, Pakistan has. Karachi must be a hardship post for German diplomats who may be bombed by the peace loving people any time. No wonder they have aggressive security.
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Postby arun » 04 Sep 2016 10:29

X Posted from the “Pakistani Economic Stress Watch” thread.

While other economists speaking at a seminar fret about the parlous state of the economy of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, one time BRF “favourite” with an entry in the BRF Dictionary, Paagal Sehgal aka Ikram Sehgal, thinks otherwise :

‘Pakistan headed towards another IMF bailout’

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Postby SSridhar » 04 Sep 2016 11:52

Some Rehman Malik-isms
  • Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif should review the foreign policy, as all our neighbouring countries except China have turned against Pakistan on the CPEC project.
  • This agreement [LEMOA] is not acceptable to us at any cost
  • We sought drone technology from US to break the back of terrorists during the war on terror but US never provided the technology to us. On the other hand, the US have given all this to India now, while we have acquired this technology on our own.
  • We will not keep a mum over this situation like the fall of Dhaka

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Postby Peregrine » 05 Sep 2016 01:23

AFTER EFFECTS OF LEMOA :

Pakistan cabinet gives go-ahead for negotiating long-term security pact with China: Report

ISLAMABAD: Alarmed by the growing India-US defence ties+ , Pakistan's cabinet has given the go-ahead for negotiating a long-term defence agreement+ and security cooperation with its all-weather ally China, a media report said on Sunday.

Pakistan's cabinet in a meeting chaired by Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif+ on July 15 at the Governor House in Lahore gave the go-ahead for negotiating a long-term defence agreement with China, The Express Tribune reported.

The cabinet considered the summary to initiate negotiations on a draft agreement between Pakistan and China on a long-term strategic framework+ agreement for enhancing defence and security cooperation+ in diversified fields.

The cabinet held detailed discussions on the proposed agreement before giving the nod of approval, the report said.

The cabinet was informed that the draft agreement was based on principles of mutual respect for each other's territorial integrity, sovereignty, non-integration and non-interference in each other's internal affairs, equality and cooperation for mutual benefits, and peaceful coexistence for strategic gains in defence and security, including arms and technology transfers.

It was also informed that input from ministries of foreign affairs, interior and defence production as well as the Joint Staff Headquarters had been obtained and incorporated in the draft agreement which was subsequently vetted by the law and justice division.

In April 2015, when Chinese President Xi Jinping visited Pakistan, the two countries agreed that their relationship had acquired greater strategic significance against the backdrop of complex and changing international and regional situations.

They agreed to elevate the Pakistan-China relationship to the all-weather strategic cooperative partnership.

The reports of defence agreement surfaced a week after the US signed a key logistics agreement with India governing the use of each other's land, air and naval bases for repair and resupply.

Pakistan had called the Logistics Exchange Memorandum of Agreement between the US and India as an agreement between the two sovereign states and hoped it would contribute to peace and stability.

"Pakistan would like to see that such arrangements do not contribute to polarising the region by disturbing the strategic balance in South Asia and escalating the arms buildup," Foreign Office spokesperson Nafees Zakaria told a news briefing on Thursday.

In 2011, the then prime minister, Yousaf Raza Gilani had expressed a desire to sign a defence deal with China during a trip to Beijing.

At that time, the Chinese leadership advised Pakistan against such an agreement fearing that it might create a strain in Islamabad's and Beijing's relations with both Washington and New Delhi, the report said.

Foreign Secretary Aizaz Ahmed Chaudhry recently informed the Senate Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and Defence that Pakistan's growing strategic partnership with China was one of the main reasons behind the current strain in its ties with the US.

The US was probably upset with the multibillion-dollar China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) project, according to him

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Postby anupmisra » 05 Sep 2016 02:16

sanjaykumar wrote:http://www.dawn.com/news/1281486/advocating-kashmir


Pakistan’s stance is superior to India’s in terms of law, human rights and the wishes of the majority in the occupied Valley of Kashmir — which happens also to be the majority in India-held Kashmir.


Kufr!

Bhy did you not post the captions that accompanied these photos which attest to the fact the al bakistan continues to be a 400% haven for its minorities as compared to the evil yindoo empire to its east? For clarity's sake, I have now added the right captions to remove all doubts from your devious brahmin-baniya minds.

Yindoo sanitary workers live in peaceful neighborhoods without being harassed by Raa inspired tellibunnies.
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Yindoos are provided nutritious vegetarian meals in line with their religious beliefs. Yum!!
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Equality for all! Yindoos and their better halves, the muslims shop at the same retail stores.
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In evil yindia, yindoos artifically create kayak traffic jams in siri-nagar lake which inhibit cashmere muslims from plying their trades. The dejected cashmere traders are forced to smile for the camera. Cashmere banega al bakistan.
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Cashmere muslimas are forced to buy bangles at the same price as their cashmere pandit counterparts, a sign of yindoo hedgemony.
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Postby SSridhar » 05 Sep 2016 07:32


A throwback to the days of 'Mutual Defence Assistance Agreement' signed in 1954. It raises several points.
  • In a sense, this is just a de-jure formalization of existing de-facto arrangements between China & Pakistan. What will it change on the ground? Nothing.
  • It would confirm that Chin-Pak as a single entity is a reality now, not merely in the realms of theories. Eventually, the Chinese would want to convert this Chin-Pak into a Chin-Af-Pak
  • It clearly shows Chinese intentions vis-a-vis India. Going out on a limb, I would say the Chinese intentions are very wicked here. They have concluded a few things.
    1. That a repeat of 1962 is no longer possible;
    2. that destabilizing India through Pak-centred Islamist jihadism was not yielding desired results;
    3. that NE insurgencies have been more or less effectively tackled by India;
    4. that India's rise as an economic power and a competitor are inevitable;
    5. that countries in Asia look up to a benign & powerful India for mitigating Chinese hegemony;
    6. that a US-India-Japan-Australia combination with many other countries in Asia tacitly supporting this combination would be formidable etc.
  • It may be China's intention that if a nuclear war breaks out, it would rather allow a scapegoat Pakistan to initiate it and make it take the full brunt of retaliation, hoping that it is a mere bluster when the DND of India clearly says that India would target the 'supporters' also.

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Postby arun » 05 Sep 2016 08:07

Newspaper from the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, Express Tribune, in an editorial with the lurid title “India — a troubled country”, tries hard to sex up the strike of September 2 in India and create an equal=equal :rotfl: .

Express Tribune claims India was “essentially paralysed”, a statement I find completely at odds with my own experience of the day which was an ordinary and full working day capped with a few after work hours Rum and Cokes with work colleagues:

……….. although the strike was not universal, it covered enough of the country for India to be essentially paralysed.


Express Tribune concludes with an equal=equal:

......... It {India} does indeed shine in some parts — but by no means all and there are internal nationalist conflicts of a severity to rival those of Pakistan, religious and sectarian conflicts similarly. Public services are crumbling and many health workers have not been paid for months. Our neighbour is grappling with many of the same problems as we are — and with no more success in many ways, which takes the shine off a much-promoted package.


From here:

India — a troubled country

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Postby Peregrine » 05 Sep 2016 18:46

The last letter

Shemeem Burney Abbas revisits her husband’s final message, written before he died in 1965 – a soldier’s indictment of Operation Gibraltar
For fifty years, I believed that my husband had gone missing or was still a prisoner in an Indian jail, as we never got his body back. It was not until April, last year in 2015, that I accidently found a folder of my late husband’s letters – close to one hundred of which that he had written to me during our three-year relationship, mainly through correspondence. The uppermost letter in the folder was the one that he wrote last, before he crossed the Line of Control into Indian Kashmir in July, 1965. The eight-page letter, painful as it is, also tells me what his mission was and where he was going. I had obliterated all details of the letter from memory, as I never reread it. This last letter and the others had travelled with me across the continents for fifty years wherever I studied or worked but I never reread them. I was angry with my husband for abandoning my daughter and I, especially as I did not want to have a child right away in our marriage and even more because he knew about the secret mission that he would be assigned to, in Kashmir. He never told me anything about it all.
I write this article as a prelude to a larger memoir project that I am working on, about Operation Gibraltar. During the course of this operation, my husband Captain Nisar Ahmed was killed in Indian-held Kashmir on August 13, 1965.
My narrative develops from my husband’s death in Indian Kashmir: an event that completely transformed my life over the last fifty years, and which eventually resulted in a life in exile in the United States for the past sixteen years. Captain Nisar Ahmed, my husband, is a national hero in Pakistan. He was assigned to lead Operation Gibraltar, a guerilla action in Indian Kashmir. This is a disputed region between Pakistan and India since the British partitioned the Indian Subcontinent in 1947. The Pakistani military, to this day, has not owned up to Operation Gibraltar. As a result, I did not know exactly where my husband was killed and buried. For fifty years, part of me believed that he was missing in action or that perhaps he might even be alive in an Indian prison. I had no closure on my husband’s death.
1. A memoir written in Urdu by a commando officer who survived Operation Gibraltar. The officer, a commando by the name of Alamgir, writes a field diary of Operation Gibraltar and gives details of my husband’s participation in the mission, how he was killed and where he is buried: in village Khag in Kashmir. This is the only reliable account of my husband’s death and burial. Commando Alamgir’s memoir/field diary gives significant details about the mismanagement of the operation and the political realities of the Kashmiri people, who never wanted a Pakistani intervention. The memoir further describes my husband’s talents that I never knew about: that he was a masterful tarot reader, as well as a singer. I hardly knew the man, as ours was a romance based on letters.
Declassified CIA documents in the Lyndon B. Johnson Archive in Austin that point to the role of Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto – at that time in 1965, the Foreign Minister of Pakistan – and at whose behest Operation Gibraltar was undertaken. It was Bhutto who persuaded Field Marshal Ayub Khan and the Pakistani generals to capture Indian Kashmir. Operation Gibraltar was the Pakistan army’s Bay of Pigs. Later General Zia-ul-Haq executed Bhutto when the latter was an elected Prime Minister. General Zia-ul-Haq led the successful U.S. intervention against the Soviets in Afghanistan in 1978.
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Postby Peregrine » 05 Sep 2016 18:56

Mengal likens CPEC to Kalabagh dam
KHUZDAR: Balochistan National Party-Mengal (BNP-M) president Sardar Akhtar Jan Mengal has said that the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) will turn out to be another Kalabagh dam because of wrong strategy of the government.

He said that the CPEC would deprive smaller provinces of their rights, adding that development based on dishonesty would not be acceptable to the people of Balochistan.
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Postby SSridhar » 05 Sep 2016 19:41

G20 summit: Modi takes indirect jibe at Pak, says one nation in South Asia spreading terror - PTI
HANGZHOU: In a sharp attack on Pakistan at the G20 summit here, Prime Minister Narendra Modi today said "one single nation" in South Asia is spreading "agents of terror" as he asserted that those who sponsor the menace must be sanctioned and isolated, not rewarded.

"Indeed one single nation in South Asia is spreading these agents of terror in countries of our region," Prime Minister Modi said in an apparent reference to Pakistan.

"We expect the international community to speak and act in unity, and to respond with urgency to fight this menace. Those who sponsor and support terrorism must be isolated and sanctioned, not rewarded," Modi said in his intervention during the concluding session of the meeting of the world's 20 strong economies.

The Prime Minister said India appreciates the G20's initiative on combating the financing of terrorism and asserted that all countries should meet the Financial Action Task Force (FATF) standards. {We must remember that even in FATF, China has supported Pakistan and stopped India from raising terror funding issues}

"Growing forces of violence and terror pose a fundamental challenge. There are some nations that use it as an instrument of state policy. India has a policy of zero tolerance to terrorism. Because anything less than that is not enough," Modi said.

"For us a terrorist is a terrorist," he asserted.


Modi's remarks came a day after India called on other BRICS members to intensify joint efforts to combat terrorism.

Modi, in an apparent reference to Pakistan, had yesterday demanded "coordinated actions" by the grouping to "isolate supporters and sponsors of terror".

The Prime Minister, in his address to the Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa (BRICS) Leaders Meeting here, had said "terrorists in South Asia, or anywhere for that matter, do not own banks or weapons factories".

"Clearly, someone funds and arms them and BRICS must intensify joint efforts not just to fight terror but to coordinate actions to isolate those who are supporters and sponsors of terror," he had said, without naming Pakistan.

But the reference was clearly aimed at Islamabad -- a close ally of China.

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Postby svinayak » 05 Sep 2016 21:34

SSridhar wrote:

A throwback to the days of 'Mutual Defence Assistance Agreement' signed in 1954. It raises several points.
  • In a sense, this is just a de-jure formalization of existing de-facto arrangements between China & Pakistan. What will it change on the ground? Nothing.
  • It would confirm that Chin-Pak as a single entity is a reality now, not merely in the realms of theories. Eventually, the Chinese would want to convert this Chin-Pak into a Chin-Af-Pak
  • It clearly shows Chinese intentions vis-a-vis India. Going out on a limb, I would say the Chinese intentions are very wicked here. They have concluded a few things.
    1. That a repeat of 1962 is no longer possible;
    2. that destabilizing India through Pak-centred Islamist jihadism was not yielding desired results;
    3. that NE insurgencies have been more or less effectively tackled by India;
    4. that India's rise as an economic power and a competitor are inevitable;
    5. that countries in Asia look up to a benign & powerful India for mitigating Chinese hegemony;
    6. that a US-India-Japan-Australia combination with many other countries in Asia tacitly supporting this combination would be formidable etc.
  • It may be China's intention that if a nuclear war breaks out, it would rather allow a scapegoat Pakistan to initiate it and make it take the full brunt of retaliation, hoping that it is a mere bluster when the DND of India clearly says that India would target the 'supporters' also.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jgD8K06H8I

Worried Pakistani Analyst Scratching their Heads How to Counter US India Defence Pact

This intense debate in Pak regarding the US India pact is unreal. There is something fishy

In 2015 Pak said that Pak China strategic agreement is not needed and they were comfortable with situation enfolding.

In the last few years with US action the Pak elite seem to be completely shaken and there is panic.

10 years of India US agreement from 2005 has been transformed into serious threat to Pak once Modi came to power.

China action from 2014 with its super infrastructure project and speed in creating an Asian block is surprising.

Now China says India is important and China India relations has to be protected and maintained.


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