India-US relations: News and Discussions III

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 23 Mar 2017 14:16

UK has excluded them and added lebanon. these 3 are very much on the US list.

moreover insurance will not cover laptops and DLSRs in checkin baggage.

the telegraph uk

“One of the main problems for passengers who are forced to check electronic equipment into their hold baggage is security from theft while they are in the baggage handling system,” said Nick Trend, Telegraph Travel’s consumer advice expert.

“A laptop could easily be worth over £1,000; an iPad £500. Most travel insurance policies will not cover articles which cost so much - especially if they are checked into hold baggage. There is also, of course, the risk of damage from shock while a suitcase is being loaded and unloaded from the plane and baggage belts. Again, insurance will not usually cover such damage.”

Research by Which? magazine found that five major travel insurance companies - Aviva, Axa, Churchill, Direct Line and LV - did not cover valuables placed in the hold for loss, theft or damage.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 23 Mar 2017 14:49

WikiLeaks‏Verified account @wikileaks

BREAKING: U.S. House Intelligence Committee confirms U.S. spies intercepted Trump team communications "on numerous occasions"

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/844632137072623616

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 23 Mar 2017 16:11

^^^ in the context of surveillance on FISA approved russian targets - whom the trump team called...

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 23 Mar 2017 17:27

Lalmohan wrote:^^^ in the context of surveillance on FISA approved russian targets - whom the trump team called...

Nunes has said many of the targets are not even connected to Russian related one.

Seems the idea was to target trump and his team but wiretap the other to keep trap of them , they call that incidental

Update: House Intel Chairman Nunes spoke to reporters when he left the briefing at The White House and had some more stunning things to say:

*NUNES: BRIEFED PRESIDENT ON CONCERNS OVER INCIDENTAL COLLECTION
*NUNES: `PRESIDENT NEEDS TO KNOW' THESE INTEL REPORTS EXIST
*NUNES: SOME OF WHAT I'VE SEEN SEEMS TO BE `INAPPROPRIATE'
*NUNES: TRUMP, OTHERS IN TRANSITION PUT INTO INTELLIGENCE REPORT
*NUNES: QUESTION IS IF TRUMP SHOULD BE IN THESE `NORMAL' REPORTS

And the punchline: there are "multiple FISA warrants outstanding against Trump" Nunes also told reporters:

Zynda · Post by **Zynda** » 23 Mar 2017 18:47

No need to worry about H1-B visa issue for now, says Sushma Swaraj

External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj on Thursday said there was no reason to worry about the curbs on H1B visas or the job security of Indian IT professionals working in the US for the time being as the Indian government is in talks with the US regarding this.

"Currently there are four bills in the US Congress about curbs on H1B visas. We are engaged (in a dialogue) with the US at very high level regarding this... We are making all efforts (through diplomatic channels) to ensure these bills are not passed," Sushma said in the Rajya Sabha. "So there is no reason to worry about it as of now," she added.

On illegal migrants, Sushma said that the US authorities have given a list of 271 persons who they have identified for deportation.

"We have asked for more details about these 271 persons. Once we check their antecedents and find they are actually Indian citizens, we'll provide them travel documents back to India so that they are not put behind bars by US authorities," she said. (Good looking out by GoI even though these folks wanted to leave India by hook or crook)

She said India will once again raise the issue of totalisation once "the jobs of Indian IT professionals are ensured to be secure".

What is this totalisation onlee? Does she mean jobs being more of a trade issue?

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 23 Mar 2017 19:32

The word is that some momeen jerry rigged an explosive in a laptop and put it against the wall of an airplane in a demo video / pic

That is why this ban.

One can travel between India and the US via Europe, or take the Air Parasite.
But the big problem is that electronics may be easily stolen just about anywhere - there are east europeans and albanians in ouiropean airports, and there are peaceful people in the middle east and in India, where checked luggage is unsafe on any given day.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 23 Mar 2017 23:41

and Nunes in all his wonderful oratory has just obstructed justice by revealing classified information
it also suggests that he was the person who first told trump about the classified information - which led to trump possibly committing an impeachable offence

at the very least Nunes will have to step down as chair of the committee
the FISA trail is pretty clear - there is plenty on it in the public domain now
but not to worry, trump apologists will stick to the defence of torn shirt open fly...

Karthik S · Post by **Karthik S** » 24 Mar 2017 15:10

Indian woman, son found dead inside their residence in New Jersey, US

http://www.newsx.com/world/59454-indian ... -jersey-us

kmkraoind · Post by **kmkraoind** » 24 Mar 2017 15:22

Smita Sharma @Smita_Sharma
Buzz in DC-State Department restructuring in lines of Pentagon.India moves to Asia Pacific desk with China,Japan,etc.Pak to MiddleEast desk.

komal · Post by **komal** » 24 Mar 2017 15:24

Lalmohan wrote:and Nunes in all his wonderful oratory has just obstructed justice by revealing classified information
it also suggests that he was the person who first told trump about the classified information - which led to trump possibly committing an impeachable offence

at the very least Nunes will have to step down as chair of the committee
the FISA trail is pretty clear - there is plenty on it in the public domain now
but not to worry, trump apologists will stick to the defence of torn shirt open fly...

Likely Putin has much dirt on Nunes -- and likely Nunes has also long been passing on classified info to the Russians. But expect no investigations from Howdy Gowdy,

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 24 Mar 2017 15:43

well Nunes has now said he regrets passing on classified info to Trump...
meanwhile the key witness in the manafort trial in ukraine has accidentally stopped a high speed metallic object with his chest
and the other witness accidentally fell out of his fourth floor balcony
oops...
and some congressman are mumbling about grand juries...
still nothing to see here, lets move on

komal · Post by **komal** » 24 Mar 2017 15:48

Lalmohan wrote:well Nunes has now said he regrets passing on classified info to Trump...
meanwhile the key witness in the manafort trial in ukraine has accidentally stopped a high speed metallic object with his chest
and the other witness accidentally fell out of his fourth floor balcony
oops...
and some congressman are mumbling about grand juries...
still nothing to see here, lets move on

Putin must have many pictures of Howdy Gowdy. The way he dances to Putin's tune, he should be in the Moscow Ballet.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 24 Mar 2017 16:44

kmkraoind wrote:Smita Sharma @Smita_Sharma
Buzz in DC-State Department restructuring in lines of Pentagon.India moves to Asia Pacific desk with China,Japan,etc.Pak to MiddleEast desk.

Who is this lady? Quite an important information if true.

komal · Post by **komal** » 24 Mar 2017 17:01

Yagnasri wrote:
kmkraoind wrote:Smita Sharma @Smita_Sharma
Buzz in DC-State Department restructuring in lines of Pentagon.India moves to Asia Pacific desk with China,Japan,etc.Pak to MiddleEast desk.
Who is this lady? Quite an important information if true.

from her twitter page
Smita Sharma
@Smita_Sharma
Journalist. Foreign Policy Junkie. Ex ANI/ DD News /IBN7 -CNN-IBN /India Today Group . RTs Not Endorsements. You argue,I listen. You abuse,I block.

New Delhi
dailyo.in/user/883/smita…

Karthik S · Post by **Karthik S** » 24 Mar 2017 17:35

Yagnasri wrote:
kmkraoind wrote:Smita Sharma @Smita_Sharma
Buzz in DC-State Department restructuring in lines of Pentagon.India moves to Asia Pacific desk with China,Japan,etc.Pak to MiddleEast desk.
Who is this lady? Quite an important information if true.

What's the significance of this change?

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 24 Mar 2017 17:53

From decades India was looked along with Pakis. If we are linked with China and pacific etc division of US SD, then it may represent a change in their outlook/priorities in their relationship with us. It may be for good or bad we as far as we are concerned is uncertain. Let us wait and see if this thing is true or not in the first place.

komal · Post by **komal** » 24 Mar 2017 18:19

Yagnasri wrote:From decades India was looked along with Pakis. If we are linked with China and pacific etc division of US SD, then it may represent a change in their outlook/priorities in their relationship with us. It may be for good or bad we as far as we are concerned is uncertain. Let us wait and see if this thing is true or not in the first place.

I suspect it means nothing. Pakistan will still get billions of dollars in money from US taxpayers.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 24 Mar 2017 18:26

Yes. A Strong lobby of cold warriors and Afghan war vets are all still there in US SD who love the idea of pakis as friends of US.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 24 Mar 2017 22:49

komal wrote:
Lalmohan wrote:well Nunes has now said he regrets passing on classified info to Trump...
meanwhile the key witness in the manafort trial in ukraine has accidentally stopped a high speed metallic object with his chest
and the other witness accidentally fell out of his fourth floor balcony
oops...
and some congressman are mumbling about grand juries...
still nothing to see here, lets move on
Putin must have many pictures of Howdy Gowdy. The way he dances to Putin's tune, he should be in the Moscow Ballet.

The fight is between Dems and Rep because the former lost their most qualified candidate to become a president and latter has got a candidate that is not from their rank and file , Putin gets free publicity in this fight which he wont mind.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 24 Mar 2017 22:50

this is getting more interesting day by day

Nunes says information from Trump surveillance ‘concerned me’

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03 ... ed-me.html

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 24 Mar 2017 23:44

This whole thing is so asinine. First, the FBI better check the background of candidates for POTUS, VPOTUS etc. Plus their closest advisors. So if the FBI Says they did no such thing, they are either liars, incompetents, or incompetent liars.

Secondly, it perfectly reasonable for senior people to have contact with embassies and big players of major nations. One who does not, or who discourages one's minions from learning about the world, is a hick, an exremist freak, a liar, or all 3.

So what are these Hearings and Statements about? Gross waste of taxpayers' money.

Gus · Post by **Gus** » 25 Mar 2017 00:05

The issue was the lying about the contacts. The lying was from the person concerned to committees under oath. And VP, Prez, advisors, spokies etc who then repeated the lie several times in media etc.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 25 Mar 2017 00:25

its more than that. the underlying charge is that in these conversations, the trump team "conspired" with the russians to ensure that there was a victory for one candidate and one candidate only (regardless of party) and in exchange there would be favourable economic treatment and the lifting of sanctions. even to the extent that %ages of nationalised mega firms have been handed over

this may be vapour ware, but the investigation needs to get to the bottom of this

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 25 Mar 2017 02:46

And WTF should SDREs care about dem Vs rep circus in US? Is UnDy going to host a debate on "post truth world" between passionate argumentative SDREs on what Trump did that bla bla, or Hilarry did that bla bla, or Putin did bla bla. The spectacle will make for an awesome comedy show on US media with host showing a bunch of aliens so passionate about US politics and wondering WTF to roaring laughter from the studio audience

.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 25 Mar 2017 03:08

agreed, this is a game between two superpowers (and there are no rights or wrongs)
rest of us need to watch and see who is left where at the end of this round
then its business as usual

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 25 Mar 2017 12:11

kmkraoind wrote:Smita Sharma @Smita_Sharma
Buzz in DC-State Department restructuring in lines of Pentagon.India moves to Asia Pacific desk with China,Japan,etc.Pak to MiddleEast desk.

So SD is aligning with Pentagon CentCom and PacCom.

Mattis and Tillerson effect.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 25 Mar 2017 12:29

ramana wrote:
kmkraoind wrote:Smita Sharma @Smita_Sharma
Buzz in DC-State Department restructuring in lines of Pentagon.India moves to Asia Pacific desk with China,Japan,etc.Pak to MiddleEast desk.
So SD is aligning with Pentagon CentCom and PacCom.

Mattis and Tillerson effect.

Nothing much to see.

What was covert earlier may become a bit more overt? the mere shuffling of the deep state deck chairs??

As far as Foggy Bottom is concerned, India still continues to be a pariah to the paki patriarch, ego driven as the US is in afghanistan.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 25 Mar 2017 14:33

^^^ correction: 'India continues to be irrelevant and only to be considered as a buffer to absorb terrorist attacks and sell expensive things to'

komal · Post by **komal** » 25 Mar 2017 17:37

Lalmohan wrote:^^^ correction: 'India continues to be irrelevant and only to be considered as a buffer to absorb terrorist attacks and sell expensive things to'

And a source of high tech labor to keep the USA running.

Mort Walker · Post by **Mort Walker** » 25 Mar 2017 20:45

Karthik S wrote:
Indian woman, son found dead inside their residence in New Jersey, US
http://www.newsx.com/world/59454-indian ... -jersey-us

MEA is looking in to this and has the attention of SS. It is high time for the GoI to issue a travel advisory to the US. Indian citizens are being physically assaulted and murdered at a higher rate than the general population, whereas these people are engaged in the least riskiest behavior of any ethnicity including whites.

TSJones · Post by **TSJones** » 25 Mar 2017 22:09

Lalmohan wrote:^^^ correction: 'India continues to be irrelevant and only to be considered as a buffer to absorb terrorist attacks and sell expensive things to'

US - India trade balance:

https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5330.html

Arjun · Post by **Arjun** » 25 Mar 2017 22:16

Mort Walker wrote: Indian citizens are being physically assaulted and murdered at a higher rate than the general population

Any data on this ?

Murder rate in the US is 5 per 100K - which should translate to around 200 murders of Indian Americans every year, if we assume the community is on par with others.

The husband of the dead woman is also the suspect in the NJ case, by the way.

It is the case though that the US is a far more dangerous place than India on this count - India murder rate is about half of that of the US.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 26 Mar 2017 01:47

Tragically, the surviving relative, as shattered as s(he) must be, is always Suspect No. 1. Says nothing about the reality in any case, but the police will say it is the most probable final finding. See the "Jon Bennett" case in Colorado for what became a total circus.

Cosmo_R · Post by **Cosmo_R** » 26 Mar 2017 01:52

UlanBatori wrote:Tragically, the surviving relative, as shattered as s(he) must be, is always Suspect No. 1. Says nothing about the reality in any case, but the police will say it is the most probable final finding. See the "Jon Bennett" case in Colorado for what became a total circus.

You mean how Jon Benet strangled herself with her scarf while dancing?

Cosmo_R · Post by **Cosmo_R** » 26 Mar 2017 01:54

Arjun wrote:
Mort Walker wrote: Indian citizens are being physically assaulted and murdered at a higher rate than the general population
Any data on this ?

Murder rate in the US is 5 per 100K - which should translate to around 200 murders of Indian Americans every year, if we assume the community is on par with others.

The husband of the dead woman is also the suspect in the NJ case, by the way.

It is the case though that the US is a far more dangerous place than India on this count - India murder rate is about half of that of the US.

Here's the data
http://www.nationmaster.com/country-inf ... ates/Crime

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 26 Mar 2017 02:05

Cosmo, a very related event occurred recently
CO polis would have rushed to arrest parents.

Cosmo_R · Post by **Cosmo_R** » 26 Mar 2017 04:05

UlanBatori wrote:Cosmo, a very related event occurred recently
CO polis would have rushed to arrest parents.

Yeah! too true: give a boy a bad name and hang him. Drew Peterson is LHIHOROTLF

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 26 Mar 2017 18:41

NSA Whistleblower: Trump Was Right On Wiretap Bill Binney – Tucker Carlson

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 26 Mar 2017 19:06

lets assume that obama committed a wilful illegal act and asked for a wire tap and that the FISA court granted it and the FBI executed it. the problem still remains that only the intel committee should have known about it and NOT trump
so if nunes told him --> nunes has broken the law
and since trump has made it public --> trump has broken the law
either way its a buggers muddle

pravula · Post by **pravula** » 27 Mar 2017 02:01

Lalmohan wrote:lets assume that obama committed a wilful illegal act and asked for a wire tap and that the FISA court granted it and the FBI executed it. the problem still remains that only the intel committee should have known about it and NOT trump
so if nunes told him --> nunes has broken the law
and since trump has made it public --> trump has broken the law
either way its a buggers muddle

Sorry, what law?