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India-US relations: News and Discussions III

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Postby sanjaykumar » 09 Mar 2017 04:30

Phillip wrote:

In times of acute eco crisis,tribal,ethnic,religious,linguistic and colour prejudices wikl come to the fore. We are repeating history sadly.

Yes it is sad, however that is our biology. Our neocortex can help us overcome it.

What would you think of a physician who subscribes to these views? The greatest thing about being a good physician is that soon you don't notice ethnicities or religions, or colour or wealth, only pathology and management. (I am aware of the abyssmal provision of health care for American Blacks).

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Postby UlanBatori » 09 Mar 2017 05:32

er... not interested in repeating what I wrote - it's there to read, in case you missed it. Enough of this election garbage already, hain? People "offer to work in a campaign" so that they can get positions of power without any real qualifications - see the guy claiming to be an Energy Expert able to deliver speeches on Energy Security because he sneaked into the Board of a Hispanic outfit that seems to have taken over the US Northeast Power Utilities as well as the Renewable Energy industry - all in one nice package. HUH??? I think THAT's where the anti-Trust and Inside Favors investigations should focus. One company - name never heard before, leading both electric utilities AND Renewable Energy? How did they get there? Sounds worse than Dubya's FEMA-destroying horse-trader deal. There seems to be a huge goondagiri/chamchagiri there, I am amazed we haven't heard more on that before.

The BlackWater/ Halliburton scam of the Obama admin?

Crooks all. May they slip in the bathroom and fall headfirst into the pakistan bowl just b4 flushing it. With their mouths and noses open. While talking on the cellphone.

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Postby A_Gupta » 09 Mar 2017 07:36

Aravindan Neelakandan has an opinion:
https://swarajyamag.com/ideas/before-re ... e-was-this
Sometimes American Hindus think that the left liberal establishment in the West may understand them better. However, the left liberal establishment in the United States sees Hindus through the colonial eyes and stereotype them. So some Hindus in pure desperation turn to the Right which they consider as pro-Hindu because of the Islamophobic noises and gestures. They cannot be more wrong.

The right wing in the United States also has at its core a more pro-Islamist dispensation and would find Hindus culturally, religiously and racially inferior. David Duke for example considers Hindus as degraded because of mixing of Aryan and aboriginals. At the same time he also shares podium with Islamist leaders who gathered in 2006 for ‘scientific denial of Holocaust’. So, for many of the rightwing in the United States, Hindus, if not already, would soon become objects of hatred more than the Muslims. After all, with Islam, their fundamentalism shares a worldview.


So Hindus have to transcend the binary of the left wing and right wing. They have to network with the indigenous cultures and spiritual traditions world over and learn from the Jews how to keep their memories intact, and in a sustained way, study all forms of hatred against them. Ultimately they need to fight centuries of the narrative of hatred with the light of knowledge.

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Postby A_Gupta » 09 Mar 2017 07:43

^^^ https://www.iberdrola.com/wcorp/gc/prod ... nandez.pdf
No qualifications? His title was "Assistant Secretary of State for Economic, Energy and Business Affairs", unanimously confirmed by the Senate to that post.

Also: http://www.gibsondunn.com/lawyers/jfernandez

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Postby A_Gupta » 09 Mar 2017 07:55

Anyway, there was a time not so long ago, when US news-people would be fired if they published fake news. Even as late as 2000, Dan Rather's career at CBS was over when he accepted uncritically and pushed forged documents about G. Bush's deferment of military service.

Now there are whole multinational corporations dedicated to the creation and dissemination of fake news. And news consumers not only don't seem to care, they revel in it, and actively participate in spreading it. As Trump would say, Sad!

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Postby Yagnasri » 09 Mar 2017 08:15

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30kAD7IgySA

The rightwing fellow was talking about Trump and other issues. Please listen to it fully. Gives interesting ideas.

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Postby Singha » 09 Mar 2017 08:20

Canadian pio denied visa free entry into land of free

http://m.ndtv.com/indians-abroad/indian ... herstories

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Postby Agnimitra » 09 Mar 2017 11:44

A_Gupta ji, no doubt this journalistic war is full of articles like these, which - as Lal broff said about an opponent - present a large collection of facts and write a convincing story "connecting dots"... but they deduce very flimsy or outright absurd conclusions. The instance I had pointed out at that time said that Obama didn't make an issue out of Russian subversion of America's electoral process supposedly because he might have seemed biased against Trump!
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Postby TKiran » 09 Mar 2017 11:54

The advice to Indians:
1. Grab political power in small suburbs.
2. Just be natural - just close your eyes and see what's happening around you, when in debates. That will give you correct prospective in a given situation. For example, if your heart says, you need to make provocative statements to subjugate some minnow who is not dangerous, go ahead with it, but if fear grips, make a downhill skiing, just follow your heart, there are no standards to your unique situation. Don't be emotional, just be natural.

3. Do help someone and publicize your kind heartedness. That would give a lot of mileage, and people would think twice before they try to harm you. For example, in any community event, give free indian food, say sponsored by <your name>. For example you can cook some 100 idlis and sugar, just as snacks, free in a library event or something like that.

4. If you want to make fun of your fellow Indians, if that is what makes the group you are in happy, please do so, just to please the group, as you are in a different situation, where you want to make US your second home, it's OK., Everything is OK according to your circumstances. Indians are very energetic and there is political vacuum in US, you need to fill that space even if you need to use "taquiya".

5. Remember that more Indians in your neighborhood is always advantageous than less. So don't worry even if your neighbour is less talented than yourself, number is what matters, welcome them wholeheartedly.

Please give me a feedback on my advice.
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Postby Y. Kanan » 09 Mar 2017 11:58

Fascinating. Isn't it interesting that "deep state" has now entered the US mainstream political lexicon? I'm seeing it more and more. This is a term that apparently only fringe nutters used up until just a few weeks ago. Now mainstream US journalists and politicians are saying it (or being forced to sort of acknowledge it). Is the US deep state about to be truly exposed? This could turn into the biggest political crisis the US has seen since the late 1850's, that period which was the eve of their own massive and enormously destructive civil war.

https://www.theatlantic.com/internation ... cy/518817/

If my instincts are correct, there are exciting times ahead, for this ultimately affects the globalist cabal and India itself. I think this might be the bigger story here, more than the recent hate crimes against some Indians in the US.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions III

Postby Karthik S » 09 Mar 2017 12:35

Singha wrote:Canadian pio denied visa free entry into land of free

http://m.ndtv.com/indians-abroad/indian ... herstories


Can't the Canadians enter massa without a visa, world's longest open border or something.

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Postby Singha » 09 Mar 2017 12:58

if they are white yes. if not, then cases like the above could come up. actually even some white canadians have been detailed , printed and turned back. some kind of database is run. membership in unwanted acts might trigger red flags.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions III

Postby Philip » 09 Mar 2017 13:55

Orwellian predictions confirmed:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 19621.html
FBI Director James Comey says 'absolute privacy' does not exist in the US :mrgreen:
In a speech on cybersecurity Mr Comey discussed the FBI's problems in unlocking devices obtained in investigations

Mythili Sampathkumar New York
FBI Director James Comey has warned citizens that "absolute privacy" does not exist in the US and he argued in favour of weakening encryption technology to allow the FBI to access devices and assist them in their investigations.

His comments have raised concerns regarding FBI procedures as well as private industry cybersecurity.

Mr Comey noted during a Boston College conference that the FBI has been unable to open 43 per cent of the 2,800 devices obtained in various investigations due to encryption.

He came under fire during the 2016 election regarding his agency’s handling of the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s use of a private server for State Department emails.

Robert Cattanach, a partner specialising in cybersecurity at the law firm Dorsey & Whitney and a former trial lawyer at the Department of Justice, told The Independent that “as a practical matter this [no absolute privacy] is a fair observation...by any tech savvy citizen."

Mr Cattanach said “the key word is ‘absolute.’”

He added that people were still entitled to a "reasonable" amount of privacy based on the Fifth Amendment in the US Constitution, therefore Mr Comey's concerns were not likely to have an impact on the way courts rule about privacy.

“It would be foolish to think that anything I said or did is fully private even through encrypted devices,” said Mr Cattanach.

Mr Comey also said that “reasonable expectation of privacy in our homes, in our cars, in our devices...is a vital part of being American,” but that a judge could compel anyone to testify about private communications.

However, Cindy Cohn, Executive Director of the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a San Francisco-based digital rights advocacy group, told The Independent that “the freedom to have a private conversation — free from the worry that a hostile government, a rogue government agent, or a competitor or a criminal others are listening — is central to a free society.”

Ms Cohn’s is concerned about Mr Comey’s comments because “there is nearly universal consensus from technologists that it’s impossible to build weaknesses or access mechanisms into technology that can only be used by the good guys and not by the bad.”

In other words, if Apple weakens security for the FBI to access more of the 2,800 devices, other world governments who do not have the same human rights and rule of law protections might also be able to access the same devices.

Both Ms Cohn and Mr Cattanach are concerned by Mr Comey’s comments regarding the impact on private sector businesses.

Though Mr Cattanach did not interpret Director Comey’s comments as having an underlying “agenda” to make it easier for the FBI to violate the "reasonable" expectation of privacy that Americans are afforded, he does feel that a company’s “trade secrets are much more easily obtained by competitors” if weakened cybersecurity measures are pushed forward.

Ms Cohn explained that “banning US companies from offering strong security” will send them abroad for a foreign product that is not governed by the US, which could undermine their cybersecurity protections.

Mr Comey did not address President Trump’s wiretapping accusations in his Boston College speech but confirmed he would finish the remaining six and a half years of his term at the helm of the FBI.

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Postby IndraD » 09 Mar 2017 14:00

good points T Kiran!

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions III

Postby TSJones » 09 Mar 2017 18:03

Singha wrote:if they are white yes. if not, then cases like the above could come up. actually even some white canadians have been detailed , printed and turned back. some kind of database is run. membership in unwanted acts might trigger red flags.


the canucks do the same to us.

if you have a criminal conviction, domestic disputes, or even just a DWI they will turn you away at the border.

a domestic dispute or dwi can affect you the rest of your life.

the US has the right just like any other country to accept or deny access through its borders.

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Postby Singha » 09 Mar 2017 18:15

does that mean the US has access to all these canadian citizen data and vice versa ?

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Postby A_Gupta » 09 Mar 2017 18:23

I appeal to moderators to unlock the "Understanding US" thread - if this thread is to be about India-US relations (as in trade, defense, diplomacy, tourism, and issues like that below.

How to live & cope with issues in the US really belongs in an "Understanding US" thread. And yes, politics is part of it. Even a suburban municipal elected office involves politics.

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https://www.americanbazaaronline.com/20 ... dia423288/
US calls for transparent process for NGOs in India

US urged Indian authorities to adopt fairer process for foreign NGO, on Wednesday. India has banned US-based Christian charity organization Compassion International.

“NGOs do valuable work overseas. Certainly these countries and governments have their own reasons for the laws they pass, but we believe it should be transparent and clear why they’re shutting down these organization,” Mark Toner, the State Department’s acting spokesperson said in a news media briefing.

Toner expressed concern on the issue and said that the United States will raise the matter with the Indian government.

“I’m not going to necessarily speak to the substance of our diplomatic conversations with India, but I think we’re concerned. I mean, when we see, like I said, a group like Compassion International, which we believe is working and doing important work in India and is closed down, that it’s a matter of concern, but certainly we’ll raise that with the Indian Government,” he said.
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Postby A_Gupta » 09 Mar 2017 18:24

http://www.khaleejtimes.com/internation ... s-in-india
A 41-year-old citizen of India was sentenced Tuesday to 15 years in a U.S. prison after he pleaded guilty to conspiring while living in northern Nevada to plot terror strikes in his home country on the border with Pakistan.

U.S. District Judge Larry Hicks in Reno also ordered Balwinder Singh to remain under lifetime federal supervision upon his release from prison after prosecutors argued that Singh has had ties to known terrorist groups in India for more than two decades.

"This is such an incredibly serious offense," Hicks said.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Brian Sullivan said he expects Singh to be released in about 10 years, given that he's already served about three years and likely to earn credit for good time. Following his prison term, a federal immigration judge will determine whether Singh will be deported.

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Postby A_Gupta » 09 Mar 2017 18:26

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/eco ... 576121.ece
The March 2 document states that the US will engage India bilaterally to commit to a phase-out of its export subsidy programmes to the extent that they benefit the textile and apparel sector.

The new US government has asked India to announce the subsidies it offers to some of its agricultural produce in advance and not after a bumper harvest, diplomatic sources told BusinessLine.

The report also states that India’s trade and regulatory policies have “inhibited” the real growth potential of the bilateral trade that rose to $109 billion in 2015 from $4.8 billion in 1980. The Goods and Services Tax (GST) regime, it says, could provide an impetus to the creation of a “common internal market that significantly lowers transaction costs.”

While agreeing that India’s reforms on IPR are encouraging, the document says India’s new National Intellectual Property Rights Policy should protect US innovations.

On the WTO dispute between India and US poultry imports, the USTR said it will continue to press for suspending trade concessions given to India to the WTO Disputes Settlement Body, unless India allows import of American poultry products.

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Postby A_Gupta » 09 Mar 2017 18:30

https://www.americanbazaaronline.com/20 ... ion423323/
"ndia’s Foreign and Commerce secretaries meet the new US government officials in Washington DC to revive US-India relation"

India’s Foreign Secretary S. Jaishankar and Commerce Secretary Rita Teaotia were in Washington DC to meet their counterparts in the Capital for the first time since the Trump administration took over. They met with Speaker Mr. Paul Ryan, Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi, Chairman of Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Senator Corker and House Committee Chairman Ed Royce and the Caucus Leader, Senator Warner and members of the House of Representatives. They also met with Commerce Secretary, Wilbur Ross, Homeland Security Secretary, John F. Kelly, National Security Advisor H R McMaster and Deputy Assistant to the President, Ken Juster.

Speaking to the media at the chancery, Foreign Secretary Jaishankar said their visit was an effort to engage the new administration and explain the progress that India-US relations have made in the last many years. “We have a sense of optimism, with the strategic and commercial dialogue and we also discussed the H1B issue,” Jaishankar said. “We were made aware that Trump administration has a very strong sense of optimism about the India-US relationship.”

Jaishankar pointed out that Secretary Wilbur Ross, with his own business experience with India has been very positive. “Whether it was business or whether it was security and defense cooperation, whether it was our engagement in the region or working together on international issues, overall it was a very positive sense of India as an attractive partner,” Jaishankar said.

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Postby TSJones » 09 Mar 2017 20:16

Singha wrote:does that mean the US has access to all these canadian citizen data and vice versa ?


I have no direct knowledge there of, but by powers of deduction, yes, the authorities have access to the respective databases. Or else the actions they are taking could not have occurred.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions III

Postby Lalmohan » 09 Mar 2017 21:07

there is a certain degree of data sharing between the inner circle members of the anglo-sphere...

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Postby ldev » 09 Mar 2017 21:37

Karthik S wrote:
Singha wrote:Canadian pio denied visa free entry into land of free

http://m.ndtv.com/indians-abroad/indian ... herstories


Can't the Canadians enter massa without a visa, world's longest open border or something.


Everybody and their dog is quick to use the race/ethnicity card. As far as I know reading about this incident beyond the headlines, this lady's fiancee is a US citizen and the US CBP asked her to get an immigrant visa because of their apprehension that she was planning to stay on in the US with her fiancee.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions III

Postby ramana » 09 Mar 2017 21:58

TKiran, Good advice.

Also when you invite desis who voted contrary to your position be sensitive and not upset them.

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Postby ldev » 09 Mar 2017 22:06

In fact on the US-Canada border the real problem now is the flow of asylum seekers north. If Trump gets really tough on the approx 11-13 million illegal immigrants in the US and just 10% of them head north Canada with a 35 million population will have a catastrophe on it's hand.

Border the big issue as US Homeland Security Chief to visit Ottawa on Friday

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Postby ArmenT » 09 Mar 2017 22:26

Karthik S wrote:
Singha wrote:Canadian pio denied visa free entry into land of free

http://m.ndtv.com/indians-abroad/indian ... herstories


Can't the Canadians enter massa without a visa, world's longest open border or something.

Not for the last 15 years or so. Reverse is also true. At one time, driver's ID was enough, but now they demand proof of citizenship on both sides.

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Postby Austin » 09 Mar 2017 22:30

US says will take up Compassion International issue with India

http://www.outlookindia.com/newsscroll/ ... ia/1003708

He expressed concern that foreign NGOs had to face challenges to run their operations in India "Unfortunately, we have seen over the past couple of years a number of foreign-funded NGOs in India that have encountered significant challenges in continuing their operations," Toner said, adding that the US has raised the issue with India through diplomatic channels

From Lalit K Jha

Washington, Mar 9 The US today said it will take up with India the shutting down of a Colarodo-based donor NGO and sought a "transparent process" for foreign NGOs in the country, saying the Christian charity has been facing "significant challenges" for some time.

compassion international is said to be shutting down its India operations after it was put under 'prior permission category' in May last year. When a donor organisation is put under this category, it is barred from funding any Indian NGO without the government's approval.

In December, the Home Ministry said it was unlikely to reconsider the decision, notwithstanding appeals by American authorities.

NGOs do valuable work overseas. Certainly these countries and governments have their own reasons for the laws they pass, but we believe it should be transparent and clear why they're shutting down these organisations," State Department's acting spokesman Mark Toner told reporters.

He said the US will take up the matter with India.

"Certainly, we'll raise that with the Indian government," he said.

He expressed concern that foreign NGOs had to face challenges to run their operations in India. "Unfortunately, we have seen over the past couple of years a number of foreign-funded NGOs in India that have encountered significant challenges in continuing their operations," Toner said, adding that the US has raised the issue with India through diplomatic channels.

He, however, said that because of the strong US-India relations "we can talk about these kinds of issues."

Toner said that "all parties" should work "cooperatively in a way that not only respects Indian laws, but also encourages a transparent process."

Santiago Mellado, Compassion International's chief executive officer, in a telephone interview to the New York Times said that a briefing on the situation would be submitted to the Trump administration this week.

The reports of the shutdown came amid allegations that the charity was engaging in religious conversion.

Other religious charities are watching the case closely, Mellado told the daily, adding, "What we hear from our friends in India is that it would be tragic if they were successful in shutting down Compassion, because that would leave other ministries very vulnerable."

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Postby LokeshC » 09 Mar 2017 22:39

ldev wrote:Everybody and their dog is quick to use the race/ethnicity card. As far as I know reading about this incident beyond the headlines, this lady's fiancee is a US citizen and the US CBP asked her to get an immigrant visa because of their apprehension that she was planning to stay on in the US with her fiancee.


Despite the fact that I despise the police state nature of SEEBEEPEE, Prison guards, Cops etc, I have to agree with the above.

The rule is this: If you plan to come here on a Non-Immigrant-Visa (NIV), at the port of entry you must show that you do not intend to immigrate (unless your NIV visa is dual-intension visa like H1B or TN). The other rule (for CBP guys) is this: Everyone who shows up at the port of entry INTENDS to immigrate unless he/she can prove otherwise. I have seen pearly white people getting screwed because of not realizing this.

In her case, her fiance being a US citizen, the implied intention is to immigrate. Unless she has solid proof that she will go back to Canuckland...... the officer is going to assume she will immigrate and hence violate the terms of her Visa.

She has to get a fiance visa now and show up at the border after some number of days and she should be fine.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions III

Postby TSJones » 10 Mar 2017 01:26

when my son turned 21 years old, he got popped on a DWI.

yup, major stupidity on his part.

that was a number of years ago and now he is a wealthy man and he and his wife like to travel a lot usually to Europe.

he wanted to travel to Canada so I told him to call the local Canuck consulate and see if there would be any problems before going.

but no, he doesn't want to humble himself to a foreign country so to speak so he won't do it. (where did he he get that attitude from?, geez)

I suppose if he wants to go bad enough, some of his gold business is in Canada (he could do a tax write off easy), he will have his attorney to do the inquiry. But he still won't like it.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions III

Postby sanjaykumar » 10 Mar 2017 01:39

At least he knows better than not to conceal it. Many Americans have been denied entry on domestic or DUI charges. Although the Canadian agents will be unfailingly polite as they turn you away.

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Postby arun » 10 Mar 2017 12:34

Austin wrote:US says will take up Compassion International issue with India

http://www.outlookindia.com/newsscroll/ ... ia/1003708


When Pakistan can extract some USD 33 Billion and counting out of the US while supporting Mohammadden Terrorists targeting US citizens, our MEA should have no problem in swatting the US away on the matter of Compassion International.

Meanwhile Pakistan has got the US Trump Administration to reopen the aid spigot. USD 350 Mio of Coalition Support Fund aka CSF released:

Pakistan receives $350mn under Coalition Support Fund

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions III

Postby OmkarC » 10 Mar 2017 12:43

Good point Arun.

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Postby Singha » 10 Mar 2017 12:49

ldev wrote:In fact on the US-Canada border the real problem now is the flow of asylum seekers north. If Trump gets really tough on the approx 11-13 million illegal immigrants in the US and just 10% of them head north Canada with a 35 million population will have a catastrophe on it's hand.

Border the big issue as US Homeland Security Chief to visit Ottawa on Friday


already happening. I posted a article on how somalis and sudanese are hiking across deep snow in border tracts to get asylum in canada. border towns are overwhelmed sheltering them until govt services move them to camps or detention centers etc.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions III

Postby hnair » 10 Mar 2017 13:33

TKiran wrote:The advice to Indians:
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Please give me a feedback on my advice.


nice list. This is the toughest nut to crack for most:

5. Remember that more Indians in your neighborhood is always advantageous than less. So don't worry even if your neighbour is less talented than yourself, number is what matters, welcome them wholeheartedly.


In Khanland, I have heard fellow malayalees saying "bah, dont want to buy house there! neighbourhood is filled with <insert some other non-malayalees>", until I have to point out that they are not whites, so maybe stop embarrassing themselves by talking and acting out what they believe is correct white behaviour. The more of youngsters and even older folks getting into the councils and state congresses, the better

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions III

Postby hnair » 10 Mar 2017 13:39

Tulsi Gabbard had this post about that joker Aslan and his wannabe MTV-Jackass antics:

While good people across our country are working hard to increase mutual understanding and respect between people of different religions, I am very disturbed that CNN is using its power and influence to increase people’s misunderstanding and fear of Hinduism.

CNN on Sunday aired the first episode of a new series called “Believer” hosted by Reza Aslan. For this episode, Aslan apparently sought to find sensationalist and absurd ways to portray Hinduism. Aslan and CNN did not just throw a harsh light on a sect of wandering ascetics to create shocking visuals—as if touring a zoo—but repeated false stereotypes about caste, karma and reincarnation that Hindus have been combating tirelessly. CNN promotional materials and trailers that included a scene showing a group of Hindus under a caption, “CANNIBALS,” perpetuated bizarre and ugly impressions of Hindus and their religion.

CNN knows well that sensational, and even false reporting about religions only fosters ignorance that can lead to terrible consequences. Indeed, Hindus are still reeling after witnessing terrible hate crimes in the last few weeks alone. Our nation celebrates religious pluralism and diversity, and CNN must do more to foster greater respect for people of different religions.

It is my sincere hope that CNN and Aslan will engage with the Hindu community moving forward to resolve the pain and outrage that the “Believer” episode on Hinduism has engendered in the community.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions III

Postby Austin » 10 Mar 2017 13:54

There is a reason why Trump calls # CNN ....#Fake News

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions III

Postby LokeshC » 10 Mar 2017 14:00

hnair wrote:
TKiran wrote:The advice to Indians:
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Please give me a feedback on my advice.


nice list. This is the toughest nut to crack for most:

5. Remember that more Indians in your neighborhood is always advantageous than less. So don't worry even if your neighbour is less talented than yourself, number is what matters, welcome them wholeheartedly.


In Khanland, I have heard fellow malayalees saying "bah, dont want to buy house there! neighbourhood is filled with <insert some other non-malayalees>", until I have to point out that they are not whites, so maybe stop embarrassing themselves by talking and acting out what they believe is correct white behaviour. The more of youngsters and even older folks getting into the councils and state congresses, the better


I always make it a point to smile and ack a fellow desi even if i get a cold stare back.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions III

Postby Lalmohan » 10 Mar 2017 19:07

Austin wrote:There is a reason why Trump calls # CNN ....#Fake News


and there are more eyeballs and TRP's when there are nekkid sadhus drinking out of skulls than when a rishi is meditating under a tree... i would call it lazy television

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions III

Postby Dipanker » 10 Mar 2017 20:12

arun wrote:
Meanwhile Pakistan has got the US Trump Administration to reopen the aid spigot. USD 350 Mio of Coalition Support Fund aka CSF released:

Pakistan receives $350mn under Coalition Support Fund


With Paki pasand "Mad Dog" Mattis as Sec. of Def. it was only a matter of time that the spigot would be reopened.


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