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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby jamwal » 02 Apr 2017 17:27

Jammu and Laddakh need to be separate from Kashmir. There's no other option.

I posted sometime back that Jammu BJP leaders are ignorant fools with little sense of bigger picture and no idea on how to keep their constituents happy apart from a few exceptions The whole unit needs a big purge.
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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby Karthik S » 02 Apr 2017 17:37

jamwal wrote:Jammu and Laddakh need to be separate from Kashmir. There's no other option


+1, it will help in maintaining law and order in those two regions before things get out of hand there too.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby ranjan.rao » 02 Apr 2017 17:58

perhaps they should take lead in a campaign for referendum to end 370. That would help delhi test waters

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Postby CRamS » 02 Apr 2017 19:13

chetak wrote:
These are surely intelligence initiated/inspired conversations.

No way IT reporters would have this much guts to risk their own lives to get such a report. aroon poorie is not such a patriot anyway and nor are his pussy reporters.

Also every non kashmiri/outsider kashmiri is tracked by the jehadis. Always within easy range of a gun or grenade.


Absolutely. And the more I see events in unfold in Kashmir, the more I "marvel" (in a derogatory sense) at how much control TSP ultimately has on the ground situation. I can see TSPA/ISI planners in Rawalpindi making a mockery of the latest tunnel opening, having hatched their plans to take it should the need arise. TSP's is "balancing act", when to destroy and create chaos and when not to, given that in their minds, valley will be theirs' one day as they keep up the war of 1000s cuts, and they need all these goodies.

I recalled last summer Sajjad Lone told bakara butt that nothing in Kashmir is spontaneous, there is a game plan behind everything. As you point out, I haven't seen a single a good investigative report in the complex web TSP has set up to make sure terror is above a certain threshold, how events are carefully choreographed, the hawala channels through which funds and arms and ammunition flow to the Islamists, the reign of terror should anybody deviate, the propaganda machine, you name it. Heck recall that even the best investigative report on how TSP undertook 26/11 was not by any Indian reporter, it was by Sebastain Rotella of pro-publica.

I would have thought by now Indian media will be full of investigative reports on how TSP is sustaining the insurgency and irredentism, but instead all we have by these pu!ssies is BJP not opening talks with stakeholders including "alienated youth" and disgusting crap like that. In Aroop Purie's and other pervert minds among his ilk, BJP must somehow find a way to surrender before the "alienated youth" who will then dictate that India must open p!ss talks with their TSP masters and India somehow find a "political solution" and we all know what that means.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby Dipanker » 02 Apr 2017 23:43

IMO Modi has delivered the right message to the valley.

Youth of Kashmir must decide between tourism and terrorism: PM Modi

Urging youth of Kashmir to shun violence, Modi said they can chose between terrorism and tourism. “The path of bloodshed has not helped any one and will never help anyone. Youth of Kashmir have a choice to select one of the two paths- one of tourism the other of terrorism,” said Modi. He also told the Kashmiri youth that if they ignore the “invaluable tradition of sufi culture”, they would “lose the present and put your future into darkness”.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby Falijee » 03 Apr 2017 03:29

'This is our bread and butter': Undercover reporters film Kashmiri 'stone-pelters' admit to being paid Rs 7,000 a month for throwing stones and Molotovs at Indian forces

At an unknown address in Jammu and Kashmir's Baramulla district, fugitive stone-pelters dropped their face masks for a conversation with India Today TV's undercover reporters.With that, they also revealed disturbing truths behind the unrest in the Valley that followed Hizbul Mujahideen commander Burhan Wani's killing last year.Zakir Ahmad Bhat, Farooq Ahmad Lone, Wasim Ahmed Khan, Mushtaq Veeri and Ibrahim Khan made startling confessions: from being on the payroll of their underground masters to carrying out deadly attacks on security forces, public servants and property in the troubled region.
'It's Rs 5,000-Rs 7,000 (£80) a month and clothes. Sometimes shoes as well,' said Bhat when asked whether he was paid to charge at security forces with stones.Young boys took to throwing stones in mass demonstrations that rocked Kashmir Valley in 2008 and 2010.
Since then, it has become a popular way for youths to express their anger against the government, and authorities have been constantly looking to stamp out a repeat in the escalations of violence.
We pelt security forces with stones – J&K police personnel, Army jawans, MLAs and government vehicles.' But this hired extremist refused to disclose the identity of his financiers. Is it strictly "cash and carry " or "services" are rendered on credit as well :twisted:
'We will die but won't reveal their names. It's the question of our bread and butter.' He admitted to hurling stones in Baramulla, Sopore and Pattan. 'Now, we go to the downtown (in Baramulla), where we protest on Fridays.'He would also supply and use petrol bombs. 'We get separate funds for making petrol bombs,' Bhat said.He charges up to Rs 700 for making one Molotov cocktail.'I must have made 50-60 bombs. We throw them on vehicles and whosoever comes in between,' he said.
For children up to 12 years, the minimum payment for stone-pelting is fixed at Rs 4,000, said Khan. Bhat, Veeri and Wasim Ahmad Khan then shared their track-record in executing attacks on security personnel and government property.
'We have also pelted stones at the armed forces, MLAs, ministers and their aides,' he said. Seems like a "boasting match" to get maximum publicity !








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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby Bart S » 03 Apr 2017 04:48

^ Money can't be the only motivation or even the main motivation for that stuff, though perhaps it attracts some fence sitters in the environment of unemployment and stagnation. If it is, then what is stopping us from outspending the Porkis in getting the same people to do our bidding. There are multiple dimensions to the story, and unfortunately, radicalization plays a big part, as does the whole rent-seeking entitlement/victimhood mentality. If there is any takeaway from such stories, it is that cutting off the money and curtailing social media access in the valley can serve to reduce such activities.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby syam » 03 Apr 2017 22:01

Bart S wrote:^ Money can't be the only motivation or even the main motivation for that stuff, though perhaps it attracts some fence sitters in the environment of unemployment and stagnation. If it is, then what is stopping us from outspending the Porkis in getting the same people to do our bidding. There are multiple dimensions to the story, and unfortunately, radicalization plays a big part, as does the whole rent-seeking entitlement/victimhood mentality. If there is any takeaway from such stories, it is that cutting off the money and curtailing social media access in the valley can serve to reduce such activities.

Money is the only motivation here. But the correct term is not simple "money". It is "long term secure money".
The radical mullahs who handle this job, know that there will be no future for them if they align with Indian State. Once the issue settles, they will be ignored by the state. No money.
On other hand, pro-Paki job fetches long term dividends. If they get lucky, the new order after azadi will promote them to higher position within the same structure.

Another important factor is, they only know qoran. They are useless in any other field. So they cling to it. Basically, humans prefer the best available easy option.
We can fix this issue in two ways, either we become the employer to these people or we make the current employer go bankrupt.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby SBajwa » 03 Apr 2017 22:42

Image

So I guess in above map

Leh and Kargil can become Union Territories
Baramulla, Srinagar, Pulwama, Anantnag and Doda can become Kashmir
Kupwara, Budgam, Punch, Rajauri, Udhampur and Jammu can become Jammu (or another apt name for Dogras)

how does that sounds?

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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby Supratik » 04 Apr 2017 00:58

Doda will be In Jammu. Kupwara, Budgam in Kashmir.

Very few people will risk their lives for a few thousand rupees. It is becoz of indoctrination. Money is secondary motivation.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby ranjan.rao » 04 Apr 2017 01:12

The motivation would be individual, but for majority of them, it is the radicalization and the fact that they can get away with it is the motivation. The day they'll realize few thousand bucks mean certain death they will stop doing it.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby SBajwa » 04 Apr 2017 01:25

I think most of the infiltration happens from Kupwara and Baramulla., These should also be made part of Union Territories or Jammu state to make sure that Kashmir state does not have any access to POK.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby brvarsh » 04 Apr 2017 02:06

Radicalization is the only reason for majority of stone pelters otherwise the state government must have enough to spare too. There is definitely a section who is doing it just for Money but they are trapped by radicals and are not easy to isolate.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby VinodTK » 04 Apr 2017 02:35

SBajwa wrote:I think most of the infiltration happens from Kupwara and Baramulla., These should also be made part of Union Territories or Jammu state to make sure that Kashmir state does not have any access to POK.

++100%

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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby ranjan.rao » 04 Apr 2017 02:44

brvarsh wrote:Radicalization is the only reason for majority of stone pelters otherwise the state government must have enough to spare too. There is definitely a section who is doing it just for Money but they are trapped by radicals and are not easy to isolate.
radicals are trapped in their minds not by their masters. Masters just act as enablers/facilatators. sorry for semantics. But this narrative of misguided youth going to buy milk butchered by brutal indian army jawans needs to end. It might have some truth had we run them over using APCs or BMPs. However, in the current situation even that would be false.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby ranjan.rao » 04 Apr 2017 02:45

VinodTK wrote:
SBajwa wrote:I think most of the infiltration happens from Kupwara and Baramulla., These should also be made part of Union Territories or Jammu state to make sure that Kashmir state does not have any access to POK.

++100%
Hope we see that in NDA 2.0


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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby Vikas » 04 Apr 2017 09:48

Tentacles of this money operation goes very deep. People are paid money and food by local mullah/terrorist for all the acts of arson. Don't forget the top KM leadership too is involved in this business of stone pelting using partly Indian money. There are wheels within wheels and money trail may go all the way upto New Delhi.

I still don't get the logic of GoI keeping J&K as single entity when reality is that all three main units are as diverse from each other as chalk is from cheese and this bond is forced one. We are being lorded over by valley KM.
Divide J&K in 5-6 entities and make sure that valley is cut off from every other place and is totally dependent upon atleast 2 more units for any movement of traffic.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

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X Posted my comment on the same issue from the Islamism thread.

……………..First paragraph snipped……………


Appears that for Bangladeshi descent Mohammaddens who had illegally migrated into Myanmar, India presents a better habitat than Myanmar. Bangladesh origin Mohammadden illegal migrants into Myanmar who have illicitly infiltrated into India from Myanmar are now attempting to make permanent their illegal residence in India by fradulently obtaining Aadhar Cards.

Looking forward to our Government ensuring that the demographic composition of Jammu is not changed by influx of Bangladesh origin Mohammadden illegal migrants from Myanmar that would result in Hindu’s and Sikh’s being ethnically cleansed from Jammu just as has been the unfortunate case of Kashmiri Hindu Pandit’s in the Kashmir Valley:

Rohingya Muslims in Jammu possessing Aadhaar cards sets off alarm bells

Meanwhile New Indian Express report, also datelined today, on worries of involvement of Bangladesh origin Mohammadden illegal migrants from Myanmar in acts of Mohammadden Terrorism in India:

As Lashkar woos Rohingyas, govt seeks to deport them from J&K

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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby sunnyP » 05 Apr 2017 01:03

Kashmiri cricket team sports Pakistan colours, starts match with anthem
Members of the Baba Darya Ud Din team were spotted wearing the Pakistan cricket team colours and singing the Pakistan anthem before a match.


http://indianexpress.com/article/sports ... o-4599689/

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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby sunnyP » 05 Apr 2017 01:05

Mort Walker wrote:Article 370 needs to be scrapped. Bring in millions of Indians from the plains and fill up J&K. The scum need to be disenfranchised.


+1

Changing the demographics of the pro jihadi, pro Pakistani areas is the only solution.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby Gagan » 05 Apr 2017 02:48

Chacha Nehru has confounded Art 370 into several binds, and abrogating it is dificult.

Does splitting J&K into 3 automatically get rid of this?

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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby ranjan.rao » 05 Apr 2017 03:04

A gem from this article
“Why should we be scared when Kashmir is a disputed territory and Allah is with us?”
Highlighting again that this is all about radical islam.

"This is not a new event in the valley which has seen violence since the early 1990s. For instance, three local cricket clubs — Burhan Lions, Aabid Khan Qalandars and Khalid Aryans — are named after Kashmiri militants. The teams participated in a two-month long tournament in Tral in April last year as reported by The Indian Express."
But aryans are hindu no? Sufi secularism? And who the hell allowed this two month tournament?

This status quo is not in our favor. This increased radicalization with our self imposed 370 is like facing muhammed ali (pun intended) with both hands tied.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby Dipanker » 05 Apr 2017 03:11

ranjan.rao wrote: But aryans are hindu no? Sufi secularism? And who the hell allowed this two month tournament?


KM, have a huge aryan complex - they consider themselves superior to SDRE Indians.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

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Gagan wrote:Chacha Nehru has confounded Art 370 into several binds, and abrogating it is dificult.

Does splitting J&K into 3 automatically get rid of this?


just stop/reduce all subsidy in cashmere.

These are the greediest freeloaders on the Indian taxpayer and it's our fault.

let them pay at real cost for goods and services.

nothing in art 370 about any subsidy.

Successive govts at the center have pampered them way, way too much hoping to win these ungrateful b@stards over.

each state subject parasite may be holding 2-3 freeloading govt jobs. :evil:

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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby ranjan.rao » 05 Apr 2017 04:32

Dipanker wrote:
ranjan.rao wrote: But aryans are hindu no? Sufi secularism? And who the hell allowed this two month tournament?


KM, have a huge aryan complex - they consider themselves superior to SDRE Indians.

interesting. Not sure, but I doubt the invasion/migration happened in or around kashmir

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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby Gagan » 05 Apr 2017 04:44

The question is, who didn't make money in J&K from GoI's largesse?
I think only the Armed Forces didn't, they only got killed, and got accused of human rights violations

Everyone else made money off of GoI
1. The J&K netas, all the elected and out of power ones
2. The separatists
3. The IAS and J&K state Babus

GoI was spending money like crazy, to make the kashmiris feel more 'homely' in the Indian union. Some portion of that development money made it to the ground, because J&K has much better infrastructure anyday than POK. But a significant portion was appropriated by the neta-babus.

One needs to see some of the Palatial houses in Srinagar and Jammu if proof is ever needed

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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby jamwal » 05 Apr 2017 10:11

VikasRaina wrote:I still don't get the logic of GoI keeping J&K as single entity when reality is that all three main units are as diverse from each other as chalk is from cheese and this bond is forced one. We are being lorded over by valley KM.
Divide J&K in 5-6 entities and make sure that valley is cut off from every other place and is totally dependent upon atleast 2 more units for any movement of traffic.

Diversity should not be a reason for division of state.
Merger of Jammu with Himachal should also be considered as an option. Culture and people have some similarities.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby tsarkar » 05 Apr 2017 11:57

jamwal wrote:Jammu and Laddakh need to be separate from Kashmir. There's no other option.

I posted sometime back that Jammu BJP leaders are ignorant fools with little sense of bigger picture and no idea on how to keep their constituents happy apart from a few exceptions The whole unit needs a big purge.


Dear Jamwal,

It was Dogras like Zorawar Singh who brought Kashmir, Ladakh & Baltistan under "Indian" ambit, though later rulers had gone very weak possibly under British pressure & influence. The State Forces could not hold J&K on its own when the same forces conquered it 100+ years back.

The Chinese Han populace has infiltrated and dominated Xinjiang. What prevents the Dogras and Ladakhis from dominating Kashmir?

The other thing is stopping the money trail. Saudi & UAE funding in the 80's fueled the entire radicalization. Yet the money trail has not been dammed

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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby jamwal » 05 Apr 2017 14:08

Zorawar Singh and Maharaja Gulab Singh built most of Dogra empire. But with strong British tentacles in rest of India, later Dogra rulers had little incentive or strong motive to offer a strong resistance to British empire. JK armies served in 2nd world war too.


Dogras will be happy to work or settle in Kashmir if there are enough jobs and reasonable amount of security. Even the refugees from POK will be a good choice, but major obstacle is lack of jobs. There are hardly any opportunities in Jammu and Laddakh for the locals and almost nothing in Kashmir. Dogras, Laddakhis and other non-Kashmiris are not going to settle on their own in Kashmir unless there are incentives for them. There are lot of people from Rajauri, Doda and Punch who were forced to leave their homes due to muslim terrorists after pandit exodus, but no one knows or cares about them. They should also be encouraged to go back to their homes.

Personal security, article 370 and islam are the main iusses which need to be tackled sooner or later if anything has to change.

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Postby jamwal » 05 Apr 2017 14:15

ranjan.rao wrote:A gem from this article
“Why should we be scared when Kashmir is a disputed territory and Allah is with us?”
Highlighting again that this is all about radical islam.
But aryans are hindu no? Sufi secularism? And who the hell allowed this two month tournament?

This status quo is not in our favor. This increased radicalization with our self imposed 370 is like facing muhammed ali (pun intended) with both hands tied.


Most of muslims in JK are very casteist. Kashmiris in particular consider themselves a lot superior because of their whiter complexion. But the natural brown colour is quite dominant in those who live outside the valley. :mrgreen: :((

Sufism is followed only by stupid secular Hindus and muslims who are making money off it. Even some of my family members fall in this category. There is one muslim shrine right in middle of Jammu airport and lots of idiots visit it like a pilgrimage spot for mannat kind of thing.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby tsarkar » 05 Apr 2017 15:33

KrishnaK wrote:
tsarkar wrote:Ramana - the word encounter was invented by Mumbai police when in reality its a proper planned ambush based on solid intel to exploit the vulnerable moment of of gangsters/terrorists. The legal system has been perverted by well paid lawyers arguing police should arrest instead of killing gangsters.
Whatever well paid lawyers may or may not have done, I don't believe the law is that the police can plan to ambush with the intent to neutralize. A court of law can decide to pass the death sentence, not the police. Encounters are illegal.

My personal opinion in this matter is that the spirit of the law should be clear. Anyone indulging in violence will be neutralized. The means - a heart & minds campaign - or an ambush - are immaterial.
The letter and spirit of the law is quite clear on who can do the neutralizing.

The life expectancy of a terrorist in Kashmir is in weeks, that is a testimonial to the efficiency of RR, BSF, CRPF & ITBP battalions.
A police force cannot and should not behave the same way as the army does when deployed for counter insurgency duties. There is a reason the army is reluctant to take on internal policing duties except under the gravest threats.


Dude, the norms of civilization apply only when there is stability and security.

When there is an existential crisis, with the other party hell bent on exterminating you by any and all means possible, all civilized norms are kept in abeyance.

To quote Fredrick Forsythe,
The most important thing a gentleman ever learns is precisely when to stop being one.


Shri Krishna himself advised how to kill Bheeshma, Dronacharya, Karna & Duryodhan and none of them were killed in a fair fight.

The Vishwaroop Chapter of Bhagwad Gita has the shlok,"Dyutah Chalam Asmi" that translates as, "I'm the cunning of the clever".

So legally, morally & spiritually, action against evil is justified.

On the other hand, it is sin to incubate & propogate evil by giving it civil liberties. Bheeshma, Dronacharya & Karna were good people who were loyal to evil for which they did not get any reprieve or leniency.

The evil cannot enjoy equal rights as the virtuous.
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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby tsarkar » 05 Apr 2017 15:44

jamwal wrote:Dogras will be happy to work or settle in Kashmir if there are enough jobs and reasonable amount of security. Even the refugees from POK will be a good choice, but major obstacle is lack of jobs. There are hardly any opportunities in Jammu and Laddakh for the locals and almost nothing in Kashmir. Dogras, Laddakhis and other non-Kashmiris are not going to settle on their own in Kashmir unless there are incentives for them. There are lot of people from Rajauri, Doda and Punch who were forced to leave their homes due to muslim terrorists after pandit exodus, but no one knows or cares about them. They should also be encouraged to go back to their homes.


We pay subsidies to those settling in Andaman & Nicobar, and a lot of Partition refugee Bengalis and Sikhs went there. Intent was to prevent Burmese fishermen from settling and claiming the Island as their own.

We're presently losing the demographic battle in the state. Ladakhis, Dogras and other Indians need to be given land, paid subsidies, a 12 bore shotgun and infrastructure + agriculture projects to work on. People from UP & Bihar bring in a lot of essential skills. And the external funding of mosque and madrassas needs to stop asap.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby Vikas » 05 Apr 2017 21:19

^ No GoI will ever change the demographics of Kashmir. That is not the way GoI works nor Art-370 would let GoI to bifurcate state in multiple entities (As much as I want GoI to say F**U art-370).
Like Jamwal Ji mentioned, Even if people from other parts of India are settled in Kashmir, What are they gonna do in absence of any job opportunity, Infrastructure and constant terrorism.
As far making money, Everyone made money in Kashmir including Politicians, Forces, Babu , Terrorists, Geelanis, Muftis, Abdullah, heck even Pakis.

A state that ran only on Tourism and largess could not have survived if free money wasn't available all these years.
There is no lasting solution to J&K problem as long as Pakistan is alive and existing in its current state and form.

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Postby negi » 05 Apr 2017 22:27

When you fight a pig you need to play at that level ; India should officially declare financial war against TSP. Print billions of fake Pakistani rupees and pump them into TSP the very networks which ISI uses to pump INR here we can use them as they will do what the highest bidder says . Bring down their economy and hold them at ransom that is how one can deal with TSP but then we have chaman chootiy@ ratoo tota IAS types who make policy they cannot be expected to think on such lines.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby ramana » 06 Apr 2017 04:28

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tsarkar,

ramana wrote:
Manish_P wrote:
Excuse me sir, but why not just call it in the old fashioned way - 'Counter-Terrorist Operation' or 'Anti-Terrorist Operation'

It is straight forward plain-speak and IMVHO it is important to have the word 'Terrorist' in it to have no ambiguity or room for any moral questionability/repugnance.


Let us promote usage of Anti-Terrorist Operation (ATO)


In US every armed perpetrator gets killed by SWAT teams. Rarely gets arrested.

Same sauce here.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby Pathik » 06 Apr 2017 07:55

negi wrote:When you fight a pig you need to play at that level ; India should officially declare financial war against TSP. Print billions of fake Pakistani rupees and pump them into TSP the very networks which ISI uses to pump INR here we can use them as they will do what the highest bidder says . Bring down their economy and hold them at ransom that is how one can deal with TSP but then we have chaman chootiy@ ratoo tota IAS types who make policy they cannot be expected to think on such lines.


Too much nehruvian red tapism too. hope modi and doval are building a SWAT team aimed a paki disintegration politically and economically

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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby anupmisra » 08 Apr 2017 02:50

Aasiya urges Kashmiris to boycott ‘so-called’ Indian Parliamentary by-elections

Dukhtaran-e-Millat Chairperson Aasiya Andrabi has urged the people .... to completely boycott “the upcoming so-called Indian Parliamentary by-elections.”
Aasiya Andrabi said that in Islam, electing someone who challenges or changes or disagrees with the divine laws is polytheism (Shirk). The elections should be boycotted and a message should be given to the world that the sham elections are not an alternative to the plebiscite.
She urged the mosques’ ulema across the valley to help people become aware of this sinister practice (elections)


So, who is going to ask this inbred why is voting in a democratic process, shirk but not in a plebiscite?

http://dailytimes.com.pk/pakistan/07-Ap ... -elections

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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby sudeepj » 09 Apr 2017 22:04

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 094730.cms

6% polling, and mobs attacking security forces who are then compelled to defend their lives with deadly force. Pakistanis have managed to turn the clock back to 1989.

Every crisis contain within it a germ of opportunity. How can the Kashmir problem be fixed long term? The latest crisis should be taken advantage of by:
1. Scrapping article 370. If this is put to vote, I believe it will pass with a near unanimous vote.
2. Impose governors rule for 10 years. This can be used to clean up the madrassas and the mosques.
3. The bodies of the ring leaders need to float down the Jhelum.

Without controlling the cultural and religious narrative in J&K, it will remain a canker. The Pakis and the wannabe Pakis are being oversmart in needless provocation and they will end up mobilizing the Indian state to take firmer action.


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