J&K News and Discussion - 2016

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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby Kashi » 20 Sep 2018 10:12

I was not coming across as snarky or anything. I was merely curious as to who he is, because of my lack of knowledge, I really don't know about him.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby ramana » 21 Sep 2018 00:24

ritesh, I fixed the Youtube links.

Can you summarize what he said as you already have gone through them.

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Postby Truthseeker » 21 Sep 2018 14:13

3 j k policemen murdered by terrorists.6 more resign, 4 post their resignation online.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby ritesh » 21 Sep 2018 23:10

ramana wrote:ritesh, I fixed the Youtube links.

Can you summarize what he said as you already have gone through them.

Yes saar!

Broadly speaking he said that the alliance was doomed from the start itself. They were dominant paetner and bjp was junior partner. All the shots were called by pdp and all the major portfolio as well.

What came out was bjp put itself, jammu and ladhak regions on the lines and got nothing nada zilch from this unholy alliance.

On the side note, it felt nothing short of doing harakiri or inflicting death by thousand cuts on yourself.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby dnivas » 21 Sep 2018 23:21

five pigs on friday
Five Lashkar militants killed in J&K’s Bandipora district, say police

https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/ ... epage=true



Five Lashkar-e-Taiba militants who recently infiltrated into Jammu and Kashmir were killed in an encounter on September 21, police said.

The encounter took place at Sumlar area in north Kashmir’s Bandipora district. Police said the five had crossed the Line of Control recently and were on their way to other parts of the Kashmir Valley.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby Rudradev » 22 Sep 2018 02:27

ritesh wrote:
ramana wrote:ritesh, I fixed the Youtube links.

Can you summarize what he said as you already have gone through them.

Yes saar!

Broadly speaking he said that the alliance was doomed from the start itself. They were dominant paetner and bjp was junior partner. All the shots were called by pdp and all the major portfolio as well.

What came out was bjp put itself, jammu and ladhak regions on the lines and got nothing nada zilch from this unholy alliance.

On the side note, it felt nothing short of doing harakiri or inflicting death by thousand cuts on yourself.


Yes, going with the PDP put BJP (and all of J&K) in a bad situation.

Yet, I wonder if Mr. Pandit considers the alternative. What if INC and NC (or INC and PDP) had formed the J&K govt instead?

In my view that would have been MUCH worse. At least BJP as part of the ruling alliance in J&K was able to exercise some limited degree of control, and coordinate to some extent with the Central Govt in neutralizing terrorists and maintaining law & order.

INC on the other hand is a pro-Pakistan party in any case. After the 2014 general election it would have had nothing to lose by throwing in its lot with the anti-national elements of J&K, sabotaging any attempt by the Central Govt. to combat separatism, encouraging a systemic breakdown of law-and-order... and in fact, everything to gain, because it could blame the Central Govt. for whatever went wrong in the state. In addition, the hyper-criminalized political ecosystem in J&K, including the separatists' transnational sources of funding, would have become a fresh source of ill-gotten gains for the INC's coffers. Given the Lutyens media's excessive preoccupation with J&K over any other state or region, the stories of chaos and violence in J&K would have come to dominate the news cycle and set back the narrative of sabka saath, sabka vikaas everywhere else. Stone-pelters would have become secular heroes with Digvijaya Singh defending them on national television. The army's morale would have been under constant assault. Major Gogoi would probably have been arrested or worse.


Modi considered both options and realized that the disadvantages of a BJP-PDP partnership were outweighed by the dangers of letting the INC claw its way into power in J&K. However bad things became locally under BJP-PDP, Modi judged (correctly IMO) that the fight for Congress-Mukt Bharat was a more pressing national priority.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby krisna » 22 Sep 2018 19:54



here the retd gen talks about the history of J&K and political failures.
Indian Military helps bring normalcy but politically we have failed the aspirations.

says removal of art 370 etc does not cause any problems to J&K or India.

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Postby Peregrine » 23 Sep 2018 19:22

Militant killed in encounter in J&K's Pulwama district

A militant was killed in an encounter with security forces in Jammu and Kashmir's Pulwama district Sunday, police said.

The body of the unidentified militant was recovered from the encounter site in the Tral area of the district, a police official said.

He said the identity of the slain militant and the group he was affiliated to is being ascertained.

Security forces launched a cordon and search operation in Dar Ganie Gund village of Aribal area in the south Kashmir district Sunday morning after receiving specific intelligence inputs about the presence of militants in the area, the official said.

He said the search operation turned into an encounter after the militants fired upon the forces who retaliated.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby wig » 13 Oct 2018 18:20

Qazi Yasir, a Kashmiri cleric and preacher was caught performing obscene act on camera. In the video, the qazi from south Kashmir can be seen masturbating while he video chats with female follower. Qazi Yasir is the same man who campaigns for Kashmiris azadi and calls for boycott of elections.


from here

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/vid ... 179292.cms

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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby ArjunPandit » 22 Oct 2018 10:15

kashmir-strike-shutdown-in-kashmir-today-over-death-of-7-civilians-at-kulgam-encounter-site
What do "civilians" go there for? Organ harvesting or seeing how does a good(dead) terrorist look like in the real world?

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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby Aditya_V » 22 Oct 2018 12:05

Some of the smart alec's thought they could lift the bodies for Martyrdom procession without have due understanding about fellow Jihadis?

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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby anupmisra » 22 Oct 2018 15:50

Der Maulaner Fizzle, savior of cashmere, at rest.

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Postby Peregrine » 22 Oct 2018 19:06

X Posted on the Terroristan Thread

Indian Army asks Pakistan to take back bodies of intruders killed in Sunderbani sector – PTI

NEW DELHI: The Indian Army has asked the Pakistan military to take back bodies of two "intruders" from that country who were killed in a gunfight along the Line of Control in Sunderbani sector of Jammu on Sunday, official sources said.

Two heavily armed Pakistani intruders and three soldiers were killed on Sunday in the gunfight after the Army foiled an infiltration bid along the LoC.

The intruders were believed to be members of a Border Action Team (BAT) comprising Pakistan Army jawans and trained terrorists, an Army officer said on condition of anonymity on Sunday.

The sources said the Pakistan Army has been informed through established communication channels to take the bodies of its nationals, who were wearing combat uniform.

Army sources said a stern warning has been conveyed to the Pakistan Army to restrain terrorists operating from its soil.

The sources said five to six Pakistani intruders crossed the LoC and fired on Indian Army patrol in the Sunderbani sector.

They said since the talks between DGMOs (Director General of Military Operations) of the two countries on May 29, the Indian Army has been maintaining "utmost restraint" to uphold the ceasefire pact along the LoC despite regular provocative actions from across the border.

However, Pakistan Army has been vigorously attempting to send terrorists across the LoC and seven infiltration bids have been foiled by the Indian Army since May 30, in which 23 terrorists have been killed.

Reports suggest concentration of a large number of terrorists in launch pads across the order and they are desperate to infiltrate into India before the onset of winter.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby brvarsh » 22 Oct 2018 22:25

ArjunPandit wrote:kashmir-strike-shutdown-in-kashmir-today-over-death-of-7-civilians-at-kulgam-encounter-site
What do "civilians" go there for? Organ harvesting or seeing how does a good(dead) terrorist look like in the real world?

Or stealing any arm, gun or ammunition left over that could be used by others.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby ramana » 24 Oct 2018 05:26

The point is the 6 civilians were killed by the booby trapped dead terrorists. That point needs to be hammered home.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby ArjunPandit » 24 Oct 2018 07:27

No sir the point is six terror sympathisers were killed by the booby trapped dead terrorists

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Postby wig » 26 Oct 2018 20:37

https://indianexpress.com/article/india ... s-5420202/
J&K: Soldier injured in stone-pelting dies, Army pays tribute
Rajendra Singh (22) was part of a Quick Reaction Team (QRT) that was providing security to a Border Roads Organisation convoy. When the convoy was passing through Anantnag bypass tri-junction, youths hurled stones at the vehicle injuring Singh.


such elements are emboldened by the amnesty granted by the Home Minister Rajnath Singh to stone throwers.

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Postby Peregrine » 30 Oct 2018 04:59

Indian Army targets Pakistani military administrative headquarters in PoK – PTI

JAMMU: The Indian Army has targeted Pakistani military administrative headquarters across the Line of Control in retaliation to the recent shelling in Poonch and Jhallas, security officials said on Monday.

The Army retaliated in the Khuiratta and Samani areas of Pakistan-occupied Kashmir
(PoK), they said.

The Pakistani army had shelled the brigade headquarters and other Indian military formations in Jammu and Kashmir's Poonch on October 23.

"In response to Pakistani army's firing of stray shells on Poonch and Jhallas on October 23, 2018, the Indian Army has sent a strong signal by firing at Pakistani army administrative headquarters ... and the residents of border villages also reported that they could see smoke emanating," the officials said.

Following the shelling in Poonch, the Indian Army has in its "strong signal" to Pakistan, fired on its army administrative headquarters in PoK, they said.

Quoting information received from across the border, the officials claimed that several photographs "stood testimony" to the reports of border villagers, who said they had seen smoke emanating from the Pakistani headquarters after the Indian military's retaliatory action.

They said the Indian Army has exercised maximum restraint, despite continuous provocation by the Pakistani army.

The Army has avoided targeting civilian population living in the close proximity of the Line of Control (LoC) in PoK areas such as Hajira, Bandi Gopalpur, Nikial, Samani and Khuiratta, the officials said.

Following the 2016 surgical strikes, the pressure on the Pakistani army was kept across the LoC through "proactive and precise targeting" by the Indian Army, they said.

The officials claimed that against the more than 138 fatal casualties suffered by the Pakistani army in the area in 2017, the numbers reduced to half till May 2018 after the neighbouring nation was forced to request for a ceasefire in the face of mounting deaths and injuries.

They also highlighted the recent killing of two Pakistan Border Action Team personnel in the Sunderbani sector on October 21 and the country's refusal to accept their bodies.

"Deprivation and penury of locals of PoK suits the Pakistan army that while ensconced in the safety of their posts, use these unwitting and brainwashed youths as cannon fodder for actions along the LoC, a cowardly and unprofessional modus operandi for any self respecting army," the officials said.

"These acts of the Pakistan army are accentuated by their propensity in refusing to acknowledge and accept the dead bodies of their soldiers as also of terrorists, each time the terrorists are neutralised in operations along the LoC or the hinterland," they said.

In Video: Indian Army targets Pakistani post across LoC

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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby ramana » 31 Oct 2018 22:32

Azar's nephew killed in anti-terrorist operation yesterday in Kashmir.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby ArjunPandit » 31 Oct 2018 23:01

ramana wrote:Azar's nephew killed in anti-terrorist operation yesterday in Kashmir.

26 Nov is coming. Uncle and Nephew should not be separate, wish our govt had the spine to make their meeting happen

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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby ramana » 01 Nov 2018 00:30

You are thinking of Half Is Suar.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby ArjunPandit » 01 Nov 2018 20:23

^^Yes Half is suar would be an added benefit.
I was thinking of him only. I'm sure that you are not against them celebrating the 17 anniv of parliament attack, with their 144 raisins or perhaps them being burnt by krasnopol

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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby ramana » 03 Nov 2018 12:18

Some quite interesting pictures of terrorists in Kashmir operations on Twitter.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby Falijee » 03 Nov 2018 22:05

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A madness that binds: The common thread linking murdered J&K BJP secretary Anil Parihar with Pakistan's Asia Bibi
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Nov 3, 2018

A madness that binds: The common thread linking murdered J&K BJP secretary Anil Parihar with Pakistan's Asia Bibi
The shooting, only a few days before the festival of Diwali, was so brutal, it left the area in shock and under curfew as investigations are underway, probing possible militant involvement.However, the timing of the murder is not surprising, given what is happening quite near Kishtwar.In neighbouring Pakistan.
Today, Pakistan is facing protests and sit-ins across the country, called by the Labbaik-e-Pakistan (LeP) chief Khadim Rizvi and Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) chief Hafiz Saeed. The reason — the Supreme Court of the nation recently found a poor Christian woman, Asia Bibi, innocent of blasphemy, and ordered her release. This, after the woman spent eight years in prison, on death row. And after jihadi elements gunned down people speaking up for her, including the Governor of Punjab, Salmaan Taseer, and minority affairs minister Shabaz Bhatti, in 2011.
But their murders have clearly not satisfied the likes of the Lashkar and Labbaik ganglords.Joined by other jihadi outfits that have sprung up like acne on Pakistan’s nuclear-moustachioed face, these groups are leading the mobs baying for Asia Bibi’s blood now. The woman has reportedly been banned from leaving the country by a government that is duty-bound to provide her — and particularly after the intense suffering she's undergone — safe passage to any country which can offer her the decency of a modern, and not an insane medieval, state.
The murder of Anil Parihar, and the potential murder of Asia Bibi, are deeply — in fact, inextricably — linked.For the militancy of Kashmir is now nothing more than a mirror to the growing madness of Pakistan.
Kashmiri terrorists today don’t even bother with the pretence of 'azaadi' for the sake of having their own independent modern nation. They are instead candid, in their half-wit manner, about their dream of having the azaadi to go join Lashkaris, Labbaiks and other louts on the streets of Karachi and Lahore, in the merry pastime of stoning Asia Bibis to death, and occasionally stringing up an Ahmadi or shooting a Shia for variety. That is the azaadi Kashmiri terrorists want.
The azaadi to join Pakistan in its meltdown to lunacy.
It is this death wish, this dream of the dimwit’s dreadful paradise, that drives the jihad in Kashmir, the stone pelting, the sniper shootings and the militant shootouts, shielded by mobs clucking with anger around the armed forces, enraged at their presence between them and their sweetest wish — a paradise where they can join the Pakistanis in stoning anyone who’s not considered 'Muslim enough' to death.
It’s not the armed forces alone. Anyone and everyone — politicians, policemen, cultural figures, editors — who stands between the jihadi Kashmiri and their dream of a state of eternal violence, must be obliterated in this worldview. Anyone who represents the normalcy of civilised life must be killed. Anyone who embodies the normalcy of Indian life — including an Anil Parihar — with its daily rhythms of excitement and blandness, freedom and constraints, elections and governments, free media and blame — must be eliminated.
In a sense, there is a logic to this relationship of madness shared between Pakistani and Kashmiri jihadis.The 1980s onwards, as numerous experts recorded, Pakistan allowed itself to be steadily flooded by Afghan and other crazies, their one common bind being, they all claimed to be Islamo-Fascists. Why, you ask? Simply in order to strengthen its fighting forces in Kashmir.But, in the process, Pakistan, which once prided itself on being the land of poetry and whiskey, ghazals and kebabs, lehengas and languor and all the good things of life (to be enjoyed by Punjabi Generals and Sindhi feudals, with a bone thrown to the vassals) went mad itself.
It let itself be taken over by manic maulvis, limping maulanas, blind-in-one-eye mullahs and beady-eyed Hafiz Saeeds, whose big thrill is to kill, preferably with a stone or a club or something nice and heavy and medieval-ish.
Today, Pakistan faces yet another siege from its home-grown religious crazies.Some have found their way into Kashmir, where they shoot dead unarmed cops, soldiers returning home on Eid, journalists and politicians too.Anyone who is normal, basically.Anyone who represents the sanity, even the banality, of a normal life, bound by law, modernity, civilised norms.A life where you don’t dream of expressing yourself with a stone.
That is a life the rest of India will not let Kashmir slip into.Let Pakistan implode. We will not let Srinagar turn into another Kabul.Or indeed, another Lashkar-e-Lahore.


The Asia Bibi file is of course not closed yet . As yet, there is some confusion as to where she is . Still lodged in jail or flown out . Lots of rumours . If she is still in Pakiland, it is very doubtful that she will be released . Which proves that the Paki Supreme Court is a "paper tiger" . So called "prestige" of Saquib and Company will take a hit . Ditto for the Kaptaan. And it will reinforce Pakiland's uber - Islamic image in the world . FATF Black List will surely await . And Pakistan will likely join pariah nations club like NOKO and Iran . Imran needs to be get advice from Peerni's crystal ball on a pronto basis ( ASAP) :mrgreen:

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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby SSridhar » 04 Nov 2018 08:30

This is an important read.

Ladakh’s long wait for more - P.Stobdan,The Tribune
Protecting Ladakh against prolonged troubles in Kashmir was long overdue and so was the imperative of addressing some of the aspirations of the people there. Ladakh holds 60 per cent of J&K’s territory and plays critical role for national security that can’t be overlooked. Also inconceivable has been how Independent India (at the behest of Nehru) reduced Ladakh’s profile of being one of the five kingdoms in the Himalayas into a mere neglected district of the Valley.

Joseph Korbel, father of former US Secretary of State Madelaine Albright, wrote in 1950 that Kashmiri leadership was playing a trick on the people of Ladakh, if not frightening them to surrender under their control. For seven decades, New Delhi has turned a blind eye to Kashmiri sabre-rattling and the trickery upon the people of Ladakh — perhaps even worse than Pakistanis’ exploitation of the people in Gilgit & Baltistan. In the late 1970s, Sheikh Abdullah drove a wedge between Kargil Shia versus Leh Buddhist, besides creating a nefarious ‘Greater Kashmir’ concept to obliterate Ladakh.

The myth of J&K as a unitary state (a heritage of Dogra fiefdom) has outlived its historical inviolability. India should have thought about doing away with any subjugation links that Ladakh notionally had with J&K. After persistent articulation for the status of a UT, the Union government finally agreed in 1993, as interim measure, to create the Ladakh Autonomous Hill Development Council. In 1995, the Ministry of Law, Justice and Company Affairs announced the Act enacted by the President under the powers conferred by Section 3 of the Jammu and Kashmir State Legislature (Delegation of Powers) Act, 1992, to provide for the establishment of Autonomous Hill Development Councils and an Inter-District Advisory Council in the Ladakh region.

The Act had to be passed during the phase of the third and longest Governor’s Rule (1990-1996). But the Ladakh Autonomous Hill Development Council (LAHDC) Act in 1997, passed by the NC government, was toothless. It was in 2002, during the time of the PDP-led coalition government in J&K, that a semblance of power was devolved to LAHDC of Leh district through an amendment to the 1997 Act.

It was remarkable that then CM, Mufti Sayeed, within two months of his coming to power, decided to delegate greater financial and administrative powers to LAHDC (Leh) and create a similar LAHDC for Kargil as well. Under the new Act, the LAHDC chief executive councillor was given the status and perks of a Cabinet minister and executive councillors of a deputy minister’s rank. The council was empowered to decide on the allotment and distribution of land, superintendence and control over the council employees.

The LAHDCs of Leh and Kargil have been functioning well, rather in an exemplary way since. But in a major decision on September 27, the State Administrative Council (SAC) — equivalent of a Cabinet in Governor’s rule, under the chairmanship of Governor Satya Pal Malik, has approved yet another LAHDC (Amendment) Bill, 2018, to fully empower the councils with greater administrative and financial powers. Inter alia, the amendments gave more powers to the LAHDC to levy and collect taxes, more administrative control over the staff and more allocation and flow of funds from Centrally-sponsored schemes.

While the people of Ladakh had been seeking a separate legislative arrangement in the form of a UT status since 1951, which the ruling BJP agreed to fulfil prior to 2014, constitutional changes seem unattainable. Since the matter is perceived as linked with the Kashmir issue, it can’t be realised for now. Regions like Ladakh, which are in favour of deeper integration with the national mainstream, cannot be allowed to drift against the current context of destabilising forces in the state.

The Centre also cannot punish the region any longer on the ground of its demographic deficiency (low weight in electoral politics). Considering Ladakh’s geo-strategic significance and in the light of Pakistan recently promulgating the Gilgit Baltistan Order 2018 (entrusting it with an assembly with legislative power) a change in Ladakh is critical. New Delhi has to be mindful of China blustering its way through the region under its CPEC projects which will have direct consequences for Ladakh.

While UT status would remain a long-drawn process, strategic articulation and national security imperative should propel the government to upgrade the administrative status of Ladakh at least to a divisional level. Currently, only a DC-level officer in Leh and Kargil acts as the chief executive officer of the respective council, who, in turn, reports to the Divisional Commissioner of Kashmir and Ladakh based in Srinagar. The Commissioner sitting in Kashmir supervises and controls 12 districts, including Leh and Kargil, in terms of administrative, developmental and law and order situation.

Separating Ladakh from Kashmir Division and setting up a Divisional Commissioner’s office will go a long way in meeting the regional aspirations of the people. The launch of the overarching national vision of a tunnel through Zoji La (11,578 ft), connecting the Valley with Ladakh, in addition to building a high-elevation all-weather Bilaspur-Manali-Leh rail axis and Srinagar-Kargil-Leh axis will go a long way in removing Ladakh’s isolation. The projects are of great strategic, economic and developmental significance. The biggest spin-off will be the region opening up to better influx for tourism.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby ramana » 15 Nov 2018 03:05

https://twitter.com/AdityaRajKaul/statu ... 60544?s=19

Can some one put this in.bar and our chart format?
Thanks.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby Manish_P » 15 Nov 2018 11:17

On track to beat last year..

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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby sum » 15 Nov 2018 13:38

^^ 2016 and 17 seems to have seen huge spurt even in SF deaths

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Re: J&K News and Discussion - 2016

Postby Dumal » 15 Nov 2018 16:27

^ If security forces include the state police, then that would be because the crazies’ strategy to go after the police as easy targets and to discourage them.


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