Re: Analyzing CPEC
Posted: 31 Jan 2018 16:06
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I had posted about this earlier as well. If we suspend reality for a moment and assume that CPEC is going to deliver on all that it promised and be a grand success in the construction part, it will still be utterly useless without access to the Indian market. The Pakis have obstructed every trade and transit possibility with India, but in case CPEC delivers surplus power and a cheap manufacturing base for Chinese companies, it will still be millstone around Pakistan and China's neck unless they have access to the Indian market. A nightmare scenario for India would be that Pak and China suddenly push for trade to be opened and even an FTA, positioning it as some grand favour or peace initiative, and some weak Indian govt aided by fifth columnists decides to open up our markets! Not only will our economy be badly hurt but the Pakistanis will rapidly benefit from it, as will the Chinese who will take all the profits and be enriched, so absolutely bad scenario for India. I suspect that the lack of feasibility of CPEC currently is being ignored by China in the hope that they can, at a later date open up trade between Pak and India to flood our market through a different route. Economic growth vis a vis Pakistan is our biggest weapon against them, and is likewise critical to help India stay in the race with China and this would be a double-whammy.chetak wrote: It's increasingly beginning to look that the only thing that will now save the CPEC is if India and it's vast markets are a essential part of the OBOR project. For this to happen, India must convert and become another exploited province of china.
Can you elaborate on this further please? How does it impact them and why are they concerned about it?chetak wrote: They are also extremely upset with India's new "Enemy property law" and they have been very vocal about it.
Sirji,Peregrine wrote:chetak Ji :
Your Post above : 31 Jan 2018 14:38
Let me sum up : "Without India Joining CPEC - OBOR - other fancy Acronyms ityadi ityadi China Wala is between a Rock and a Hard Place!
India should tighten its Vigil on the Indo-Nepal, the Indo-Beedee and the Indo-Myanmar Border.
All in all I fully agree with your summation and look forward to demise of the CPEC - OBOR - other fancy Acronyms ityadi ityadi Grand Plans of the Han in General and Eleven Gin Pegs in Particular.
Cheers
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China alone has loaned the east African nation nearly $3 billion and is in talks for $2.3 billion more as part of its vast overseas development Belt and Road scheme.
“Uganda will grind to a halt as a country because of Museveni’s reckless borrowing. We’re like a patient on life support,” said opposition lawmaker Ibrahim Ssemujju Nganda, alluding to a debt warning from the central bank last year.
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Notice a pattern here?In the 2018/19 budget, interest repayments - at 17.3 percent - will consume the largest chunk of domestic revenues.
China-Pakistan sign new deals for Gwadar port's development: CPEC may turn out to be India's security and strategic problem
Wednesday, January 31, 2018
By: First Post
Gwadar Port, situated in the restive Balochistan province, has been the ‘it’ project of the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), the torch bearer of the China-Pakistan relations, which Prime Minister Yusuf Raza Gilani once said is "higher than mountains, deeper than the ocean, stronger than steel and sweeter than honey." The Gwadar Port is expected to provide China’s western hinterland with access to the Arabian Sea – and in turn the Indian Ocean – for maritime trade. Now partly operational, the port is one of the first visible signs of the $62 billion CPEC, which is a network of infrastructure projects that are currently under construction throughout Pakistan
On Monday, Pakistan prime minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi inaugurated the Economic Free Zone at the Gwadar Port, which will be run by China Overseas Port Holding Company. A Xinhua report said that 30 companies belonging to businesses such as hotel, banking, logistics and fish processing will be in the free zone. The free zone is expected to garner direct investment of about $474.3 million, while the annual output is expected to be $790.5 million after full operation.
On the same day, both countries also signed six agreements to further develop the capacities of the deep water port.
Ever since it was first launched in 2002, the Gwadar Port has been a point of discussion among the Indian strategic community. With China asserting its claim to be a global power, its military interests in the Indian Ocean Region have seen a spike in the recent years. An ambitious China attaches paramount importance to the Indo-Pacific Region, an area which includes the Western Pacific Ocean as well as whole of the Indian Ocean, but this runs in parallel to India’s pre-eminence in the region.
Pakistan expects Gwadar to be a "gamechanger" – a term often used by the Establishment there – due to its strategic location near the Gulf of Hormuz. This gives China access to the Gulf region, a major route for oil supplies in the world. Moreover, there are military implications of the project too.
China is expected to be in control of the port till 2059 after which will turn into Pakistan’s second naval base – after Karachi. However, what is more worrying are reports of Gwadar being a part of grand Chinese designs to encircle India through strategic ports in the Indian Ocean. Called the “string of pearls”, the true nature of the plan has been a matter of speculation, with The Economist considering it to be of commercial rather than military value. Nevertheless, a recent report claimed that China was building a naval base off the coast of Gwadar, which was denied by the Chinese foreign ministry.
While the opening of the Chabahar Port in Iran is being dubbed as India’s counter to Gwadar Port, only time will tell if it serves India’s economic as well as strategic purpose. The port, located in the Sistan-Balochistan province on the energy-rich Persian Gulf nation’s southern coast, lies outside the Persian Gulf and is easily accessed from India’s western coast, bypassing Pakistan.
The CPEC and India's concerns ::
More than the Gwadar Port, it is the CPEC that has been a contentious issue for the Indian government. The reason being that parts of the corridor passes through Pakistan occupied Kashmir (PoK), which is legally a part of India. India has been raising the issue of "sovereignty" while opposing the CPEC as well as associated plans like the One Belt One Road (OBOR) Initiative.
In Gilgit-Baltistan, which is the largest part of PoK, hydropower dams and railway lines are the major CPEC-related infrastructure projects.
Speaking in the Lok Sabha in December last year, MoS, External Affairs VK Singh had said, "The government has conveyed to the Chinese side, including at the highest level, its concerns about China's activities in PoK and asked them to cease these activities. However, there may have been a softening in China's stance over CPEC too. China on Monday said it is ready to hold talks with India to resolve their differences on the controversial issue.
As to the differences between China and India, China stands ready to communicate and hold talks with India to seek a proper solution so that these differences will not affect our general national interests. This best serves the interests of the two countries," Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson Hua Chunying said.
Not only in India, but concerns over CPEC have been raised in Gilgit-Baltistan region as well. Activists in the disputed region claim that China’s pace of implementing projects will environmentally harm the region. They also believe that these projects will lead to rampant land grabbing and loss of employment opportunities for the locals.
Despite local concerns, including opposition from Baloch groups for the fear of alienation as well as economic exploitation by Chinese companies, the project is likely to continue. But CPEC, as a project linking two of India's major geo-political rivals, spells a major security threat to India.
As noted by this Firstpost article, written on the eve of Chinese president Xi Jinping’s maiden visit to Pakistan, "CPEC project would mean Chinese presence in entire Pakistan, including Pakistan Occupied Kashmir, becomes all pervasive and powerful. China’s hectic economic and so-called 'commercial' engagement with Pakistan, which is nothing but a strategic gamechanger in the region, would go a long way in making Pakistan a richer and stronger entity than ever before."
Since the last decade, the fear of a two front-war has been bothering the strategic community in India. Echoing similar sentiments, former northern army GoC, DS Hooda told The Times of India in 2017 that with China investing $62 billion in the corridor, any war with Pakistan will invariably also involve China.
"You have to be prepared for China. For India, the prospect of a two-front war is a real one. The question is: will China resort to armed hos tilties if a conflict breaks out between India and Pakistan? We are looking at it carefully and preparing," Hooda said while stressing on the reported close military relationship between the two of India's arch rivals.
Between June and August 2017, India and China were involved in a military standoff at the Bhutan-India-China tri-junction at Doka La. While border disputes between the countries were not new, the intensity and the persistence of the standoff was unprecedented. An opinion piece in The Economic Times at the time of the standoff linked the standoff to India's refusal to join the OBOR, which India had boycotted in May 2017 as part of CPEC passed through Gilgit Baltistan.
"The actual theatre of Doklam war might not be the India-Bhutan-China tri-junction where Indian and Chinese soldiers are facing off. It could be thousands of kilometres away—the Line of Control between India and Pakistan. In Doklam, China might be manoeuvring to secure CPEC, its biggest strategic asset in the region," the opinion piece noted.
As CPEC projects near their completion dates, Balochistan may well be at the centre of a security strategy of China. Beijing will like to securing Balochistan as a major part of the CPEC passes through the insurgency-ridden state. Two factors may force China to be proactive with regards to any security threat to Pakistan. Prime Minister Narendra Modi's reference to the persecuted population in Balochistan and the rise in Chinese casualties in terror attacks in the insurgency-ridden state.
As China embarks on its ambitious connectivity programme, India may find itself in a spot of bother as Beijing has brought almost all of New Delhi's neighbours on board. Afghanistan, which is a strategic partner of India, has also expressed interest in joining the connectivity programmes. Amid such developments, India-China rivalry across South Asia will be watched out.
In case of war, enemy property meaning cheeni owned, can simply be confiscated by the GoI.Bart S wrote:I had posted about this earlier as well. If we suspend reality for a moment and assume that CPEC is going to deliver on all that it promised and be a grand success in the construction part, it will still be utterly useless without access to the Indian market. The Pakis have obstructed every trade and transit possibility with India, but in case CPEC delivers surplus power and a cheap manufacturing base for Chinese companies, it will still be millstone around Pakistan and China's neck unless they have access to the Indian market. A nightmare scenario for India would be that Pak and China suddenly push for trade to be opened and even an FTA, positioning it as some grand favour or peace initiative, and some weak Indian govt aided by fifth columnists decides to open up our markets! Not only will our economy be badly hurt but the Pakistanis will rapidly benefit from it, as will the Chinese who will take all the profits and be enriched, so absolutely bad scenario for India. I suspect that the lack of feasibility of CPEC currently is being ignored by China in the hope that they can, at a later date open up trade between Pak and India to flood our market through a different route. Economic growth vis a vis Pakistan is our biggest weapon against them, and is likewise critical to help India stay in the race with China and this would be a double-whammy.chetak wrote: It's increasingly beginning to look that the only thing that will now save the CPEC is if India and it's vast markets are a essential part of the OBOR project. For this to happen, India must convert and become another exploited province of china.
Can you elaborate on this further please? How does it impact them and why are they concerned about it?chetak wrote: They are also extremely upset with India's new "Enemy property law" and they have been very vocal about it.
It is certainly not dependent on India (though unlikely to help either China or Pakistan in any great way), but the point is that if India caves and opens up domestic market to trade from Pakistan post-CPEC it would be a spectacular success for both Pak/China, allowing them to wreck our economy and letting Pak nullify our economic growth.chola wrote:If CPEC is dependent on the Indian market and we hold the key to its survival then we have absolutely nothing to worry about and we can close this thread.
Obviously, the chinis wouldn’t be in the position to fund something like CPEC if they depended on the generosity of regional rivals to make their projects viable. Come on, people!
I think that something has drastically and fundamentally changed with the CPEC.Bart S wrote:It is certainly not dependent on India (though unlikely to help either China or Pakistan in any great way), but the point is that if India caves and opens up domestic market to trade from Pakistan post-CPEC it would be a spectacular success for both Pak/China, allowing them to wreck our economy and letting Pak nullify our economic growth.chola wrote:If CPEC is dependent on the Indian market and we hold the key to its survival then we have absolutely nothing to worry about and we can close this thread.
Obviously, the chinis wouldn’t be in the position to fund something like CPEC if they depended on the generosity of regional rivals to make their projects viable. Come on, people!
That is exactly what I suspect. I think they were OK with no Indian participation initially, but if they can pull off access to the Indian market from Pakistan at some point (basically a roll of the dice as far as China goes), it would be a huge bonus.chetak wrote: The access to the Indian market was never an awowed part of the CPEC plan or was it a hidden agenda, to be unveiled at the opportune moment, to be presented as a fait accompli??
I think quite early on China was saying that CPEC needs access to trade volumes that only India could provide for it to be successful. The Pakistan side was simply not listening.The access to the Indian market was never an awowed part of the CPEC plan or was it a hidden agenda, to be unveiled at the opportune moment, to be presented as a fait accompli??
Agreed India has been saying this since its less than extra ancient times - there is much to learn from wise Chinese brother!DavidD wrote:I think it's wrong to focus on material gains like money and assets...
This is already true - China is indesensible, some would even say 'too big to fail us!'DavidD wrote: The goal is make China a part of anything and everything one needs to buy in your daily life. ... This way, cutting China off will not be an option, because China will be an indispensable part of everything you need, and you literally cannot live life as you know it without China.
India is correctly compared to Vietnam and has no choice but to buy into this strategym. These vassals shall but pay obeisance to Zhong Gu!DavidD wrote: OBOR is just a slogan, the underlying strategy is full steam ahead whether one embraces the slogan or not. ...
Same goes for India. When every road and port in Pakistan, Myanmar, Sri Lanka, and Nepal connect to China, when everything they buy and sell involve China, how can India shut itself off from the OBOR?
The Cult & Goad is not a double-edged sword, it is the sword arm of the Zhong Gu!DavidD wrote: Of course, that also means such connectivity can be a double-edged sword for China. ...
Connectivity will happen sooner or later, OBOR just makes it happen sooner. It'll be up to each country's ability to provide the best and most of things that everyone needs whether it's mobile phones or commercial loans that'll determine its place in the increasingly interconnected world. That's the way the world has always trended toward, and the more things change they more they stay the same.
DavidD wrote:I think it's wrong to focus on material gains like money and assets with OBOR investments. Like many of you mentioned, countries can default on loans, they can nationalize assets. What would China do if countries do that, invade them like the U.S. does? No, what it's about is building a supply chain in which China is an indispensable part.
You see, the goal isn't so much to "own" ports, power plants, and whatnot in other countries because those can be taken away by fiat. The goal is make China a part of anything and everything one needs to buy in your daily life. From household items like fridges, TVs, and toilet papers to capital items like trains, cars, and excavators, some key component of the supply chain will involve a Chinese company. Moving forward, services like banking, payments, and currency exchanges will also involve Chinese companies. This way, cutting China off will not be an option, because China will be an indispensable part of everything you need, and you literally cannot live life as you know it without China.
OBOR is just a slogan, the underlying strategy is full steam ahead whether one embraces the slogan or not. Take Vietnam for example, antagonistic toward China in many respects, and a minimal participant in the OBOR, yet completely dependent on China economically. Despite all the hullabaloo the past few years, they've yet to go much beyond rhetoric to hurt Chinese interests. They're a quintessential example of the strategy at work, they're part of the "OBOR" whether they admit/like it or not.
Same goes for India. When every road and port in Pakistan, Myanmar, Sri Lanka, and Nepal connect to China, when everything they buy and sell involve China, how can India shut itself off from the OBOR? Will India just stop trading with all its neighbors? A road built to connect India and Myanmar can be done under any banner whether it's OBOR or Act East, but the effect will be the same. The country that makes most of everything people need will be the one that has the most to gain.
Of course, that also means such connectivity can be a double-edged sword for China. If another country rises to make more of everything than China, then it'll stand to benefit more than China does and become even more indispensable than China. China is working hard to maintain and advance that edge, and ultimately that'll be the key determinant of how successful this strategy will be.
Connectivity will happen sooner or later, OBOR just makes it happen sooner. It'll be up to each country's ability to provide the best and most of things that everyone needs whether it's mobile phones or commercial loans that'll determine its place in the increasingly interconnected world. That's the way the world has always trended toward, and the more things change they more they stay the same.
Prem wrote:http://www.atimes.com/article/afghan-po ... mic-woes//
Chabahar Port lures Afghan traffic away from Karachi
Afghanistan has shifted 80% of its cargo traffic from Pakistan’s Karachi seaport to Iran’s Bandar Abbas and Chabahar ports. The move comes two months after Chabahar, barely 100 kilometers from Pakistan’s Gwadar port, was inaugurated. The shift, prompted in part by a new trade tariff imposed by Islamabad, is expected to greatly reduce Pakistan’s role in the transit of Afghan goods.Pakistani business leaders believe that more Afghan trade will eventually shift to the strategic Chabahar Port, as it is Iran’s closest sea link to the Indian Ocean. The first phase of Shahid Beheshti Port in the Sistan-Balochistan province was commissioned last year. It is expected that US$5 billion worth of Afghan trade will be conducted solely through the tripartite Chabahar Port – sponsored jointly by India, Iran, and Afghanistan – once it starts feeding the International North-South Transport Corridor (INSTC).The current fiscal year has seen a US$2 billion drop in trade with Afghanistan due to frequent border shutdowns, military skirmishes and the new trade tariff. The trade volume, which stood at US$ 2.5 billion in 2016, has gradually declined to US$500 million following the deterioration of relations between the South Asian neighbors.
“The leadership of both countries should not mingle politics with trade and discourage the use of bilateral trade as a leverage to settle political and regional disputes,” Zia Ul Haq Sarhadi, director of the Pakistan Afghanistan Joint Chamber of Commerce & Industry (PAJCCI), told Asia Times. He attributed the decline to heightened tensions on the border, tariffs and Chabahar port, where he claimed India offered huge incentives for Afghan traders.“On a reciprocal basis, Afghanistan opened a second aerial corridor for India, enabling her to establish a direct trade link between Mumbai and Kabul. The first flight took 40 tons of dried and fresh fruits and medicinal herbs to India through the aerial route,” Sarhadi said.The US$2 billion reduction in bilateral trade with Afghanistan is expected to adversely hit the country’s economy, which is already reeling under a widening trade deficit and worsening balance of payments. Data released by the Pakistan Bureau of Statistics (PBS) in December last year point to a dismal economic outlook.Pakistan’s foreign exchange deposits figure is gradually sinking. It is presently estimated at US$14.66 billion, which includes US$2.5 billion worth of sales proceeds from euro and Sukuk bonds. Pakistan needs to pay back $6 billion for foreign debts servicing by the end of June 2018. To make matters worse for the country, the US government announced it was freezing military aid to Pakistan.As bilateral trade continues to shrink, Pakistan is looking at a looming economic crisis, while the Chabahar Port becomes a lucrative alternative for the Afghans. It is doubtful that the CPEC will be able to plug the gap.
Brahma Chellaney@Chellaney
Feb 2
Some Indians claimed India was isolating itself by opposing China's BRI. In reality, India has helped shape global reaction — e.g., Theresa May echoes India's words by saying BRI should be transparent, open and rules-based. Tillerson, meanwhile, likens BRI to European colonialism
Brahma Chellaney@Chellaney
Jan 26
The word "predatory" has become linked with China. Tillerson for example blasted China's “predatory economics.” Other US officials have referred to China's "predatory financing" & "predatory approach." Now Trump at Davos takes aim, slamming market-distorting "predatory behaviors"
Abrar Manzoor, a young and excited Pakistani officer, was bestowed with “Excellent Foreign Youth Employee Award” under the Belt and Road Initiative by the China Communication Construction Company for his outstanding performance and excellent contribution towards the project.
The paki was working on a construction project in his own country and was awarded this "most excellent" award. Foreigner in his own land?The CCCC is China’s largest port design and construction company which is also involved in development of Gwadar master plan.
ROFLanupmisra wrote:Pakistani honored with ‘Excellent Foreign Youth Employee Award’ by Chinese giant
Note the irony!
Abrar Manzoor, a young and excited Pakistani officer, was bestowed with “Excellent Foreign Youth Employee Award” under the Belt and Road Initiative by the China Communication Construction Company for his outstanding performance and excellent contribution towards the project.The paki was working on a construction project in his own country and was awarded this "most excellent" award. Foreigner in his own land?The CCCC is China’s largest port design and construction company which is also involved in development of Gwadar master plan.
https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/27614 ... nese-giant
Pakistan has sought unilateral market concessions from China on cotton yarn, rice, nuts, plastic waste, leather, nuts edible fresh or dried, trousers, frozen fish and crabs on immediate basis before embarking on the second phase of China Pakistan Free Trade Agreement (CPFTA).
Islamabad had made a special request to Beijing to take remedial measures in the wake of eroded exports by granting concession on products before finalising revised FTA that could give boost to our exports on immediate basis.
...first phase of CPFTA with China, the country’s trade deficit increased from $2.9 billion to $12.66 billion over the last decade.
Pakistan’s imports from China increased from 18% to 28% of its global imports. Pakistan’s imports from China are 36% of Pakistan’s non-oil imports while China’s imports from Pakistan are 0.1% of the country’s global imports. Pakistan’s imports from China are greater than 50% of global imports in 44% tariff lines.
China’s exports to Pakistan increased from $4 billion in 2006-07 to $14.56 billion in 2016-17. Pakistan’s exports increased from $0.5 billion to $1.47 billion during the same period.
Following increase in investment-led imports Pakistan’s global trade deficit has increased to $30.9 billion in 2016-17.
If exports stagnate, the trade deficit would increase from $30.9 billion in 2016-17 to over $40 billion in 2017-18
Federal Investigation Agency (FIA) has though acknowledged before the Supreme Court that the fake degree scandal of Axact Company is based on facts, the report it submitted appears to be an attempt of bailing out the accused through misrepresentation of facts.
The report submitted to the court late Friday made tall claims about the FIA’s past performance in the case but didn’t offer any promise of bringing the culprits to justice. Instead, the failure was attributed to the lack of cooperation from the USA in information sharing.
The FIA in its submission to the Supreme Court further says that “during course of investigation, four thousand (4,000) students whose email contact details were recovered from the records of M/s Axact, were contacted through email to verify/ascertain regarding obtaining of fake/bogus degree/certificate from so called online universities/schools. Only seven (7) victims replied and reply of even single person was not satisfactory or confirmed regarding obtaining of fake/bogus degree/certificate from online universities/schools.”
Islampasandi of NYT makes me wonder if their funding is halal. Perhaps it should inspire us to install in kashmir and other areas
Elementary, Dr. Watson: Their degrees and school certificates are fake; they are Pakis; why do u assume they can read & write, hain?anupmisra wrote:From the land of inbred idiots comes this new one...
Axact fraud case: FIA report raises questions about FIA
Only seven (7) victims replied and reply of even single person was not satisfactory[/u][/b] or confirmed regarding obtaining of fake/bogus degree/certificate from online universities/schools.”
https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/277439 ... -about-fia
The Planning Commission’s Center of Excellence (COE) for Pakistan-China Economic Corridor (CPEC) has estimated that China’s total contribution for Pakistan’s development would cross $100 billion up to 2030
If horses had wings.....The total cost of CPEC projects has already gone up from $46 billion to $62 billion and it is hoped that the total cost will further go up to $100 billion by 2030 with inclusion of more projects into list of CPEC
They are not recognised AFAIK. Even if you do medicine from US, you will have trouble getting a registration. Primary degree from Indian university is the only real way to get registration. They even closed the Russian loophole recently.chetak wrote:On a slightly OT note, India should take the unilateral step of derecognizing the medical, engineering and all other educational degrees issued to Indians from china and pakiland.
The pakis have started to offer cashmeris subsidized medical admissions in pakiland.
This is a different situation though where that is not adequate and it needs to be totally shut down. It's just a way to radicalize youth from J&K and scout for terrorists/terrorist OGWs/sleeper cells, while simultaneously getting good publicity.panduranghari wrote:They are not recognised AFAIK. Even if you do medicine from US, you will have trouble getting a registration. Primary degree from Indian university is the only real way to get registration. They even closed the Russian loophole recently.chetak wrote:On a slightly OT note, India should take the unilateral step of derecognizing the medical, engineering and all other educational degrees issued to Indians from china and pakiland.
The pakis have started to offer cashmeris subsidized medical admissions in pakiland.
The paki route has just opened recently and it seems to be a means to get medical seats for the kith and kin of cashmeri separatist traitors.panduranghari wrote:They are not recognised AFAIK. Even if you do medicine from US, you will have trouble getting a registration. Primary degree from Indian university is the only real way to get registration. They even closed the Russian loophole recently.chetak wrote:On a slightly OT note, India should take the unilateral step of derecognizing the medical, engineering and all other educational degrees issued to Indians from china and pakiland.
The pakis have started to offer cashmeris subsidized medical admissions in pakiland.
Height of desperation on behalf of the pakis. That chini groom looks like a peasant from the hinterlands of western china. But I digress. Pakis are now "selling" their daughters.ramana wrote:Chinese engineer marries Pakjabi girl
https://twitter.com/Shahid_Qazi1/status ... 5848353792
Will the same fate await Pakistan, which has now hitched its wagon to the Chinese CPECCOLOMBO, Sri Lanka -- Massive debts threaten to force the Maldives to cede territory to China as early as 2019, former President Mohamed Nasheed said, warning that a flawed presidential election this year would lead to a Chinese takeover of the island nation.