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Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby arun » 13 Feb 2017 21:14

svenkat wrote:At least 10 people were killed and 69 injured on Monday when a suicide bomber struck outside the Punjab Assembly in Lahore during a protest, police officials said.Other reports say 16 are dead.

Rescue 1122 confirmed that 69 people were injured in the attack, with most of the casualties shifted to Mayo Hospital and Ganga Ram Hospital.

The Jamat-ul-Ahrar faction of the banned Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) claimed responsibility for the attack.

SSP Zahid Gondal of Punjab Police and DIG Traffic Lahore Capt (retd) Ahmad Mobin were killed in the attack.

A suicide bomber struck outside the gates of the Punjab Assembly at Charing Cross on Mall Road, a busy thoroughfare in Lahore


Having sown the winds of Mohammadden Terrorism in an attempt to intimidate neighbouring countries like India, the Mohammadden Terrorism fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan reaps the whirlwind of Mohammadden Terrorism.

AP is now reporting that the death toll is up to 11 and targeted a protest by pharmacists. Anyone can explain why Pharmacists would attract the ire of a Mohammadden group like the Jamat-ul-Ahrar faction of the Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan ? :


Pakistan police: Bomb kills 11 at pharmacists' protest in Lahore

Meanwhile sfter the above mentioned demonstration of the IED Mubarak variant of the IEDology of Pakistan outside the Pakjabi Provincial Assembly in Lahore, I wonder how many foreign cricketers Najam Sethi is going to entice to play the Pakistan Super League final in Lahore:

Lahore blast puts question mark over PSL final

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby svinayak » 13 Feb 2017 22:49

SSridhar wrote:
Bart S wrote:

Thank you! That was way more entertaining than anything I have seen on TV lately :lol:

IMO, the Hudson-Heritage report is 'more of the same US policies' that are on offer since 1952, but is couched in a way as though it appears revolutionary and recognizes the Pakistani duplicity. It is a humbug report. Sorry. The latter one -third of the session may be fun, but that's a different story.

Dont be fooled by this report and show.
There is lot of baggage between US and Pak and the their relations.

That relations is being negotiated and resisted by Pak
These same people are playing a different tune.

There is a long way before they settle on the terms.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby svinayak » 13 Feb 2017 23:27

KJo wrote:
Lisa wrote:^ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aBUQzOc37I

eg, watch from 53.00, fun, fun, fun.


Fair Didi seems to be on the side of the good guys. Has that changed in some years? I think I remember her being enamored by the fair and strong jihadis but maybe I am mistaken...


US has a long way to go until they discard the pak baggage. I beleive they may not be able to do so for quite sometime.

The older person says that US should have the ability to get out of the Af region focus out of its policy. He knows the old history that they are foreigners in the region and have no role to play.

Another younger guy is looking for US role in the CPEC and does not realise that US has no role in CPEC

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Bheeshma » 13 Feb 2017 23:38

Wow Jumma did is in full swing in porkistan. What gives???

http://www.dawn.com/news/1314553/three- ... ss-the-loc

Three Pakistan Army soldiers were killed in Indian firing across the Line of Control (LoC), said a statement from the Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) on Monday evening.

http://www.dawn.com/news/1314555/two-bd ... -in-quetta

http://www.dawn.com/news/1314534/3-fc-p ... stan-blast

http://www.dawn.com/news/1314549/senior ... kes-lahore

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby ranjan.rao » 13 Feb 2017 23:55

array no mention of bomb blast in La whore and 13 being multiplied by 72, see no one in this world cares about Pakis...

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 130195.cms

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby saip » 14 Feb 2017 01:12

Tubelight time?

Read book on how Indian democracy has succeeded: Pakistan Army chief tells officers

Link

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Prem » 14 Feb 2017 01:18

Jumma The 13th got few Miskeen.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby g.sarkar » 14 Feb 2017 03:20

http://www.indiatvnews.com/news/world-a ... lar_widget
Another Pakistan Senator says he was denied US visa
A day after reports of Pakistan’s Senate deputy-chairman and leader of one of the largest Islamic parties being denied a US visa, another Senator from the same party today alleged that his US visa application was turned down without a valid reason.
Hafiz Hamdullah said he had to wait in a queue for over four hours inside the US embassy's consular section before being told he could not be granted a visa, The Express Tribune reported.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Atmavik » 14 Feb 2017 03:21

saip wrote:Tubelight time?

Read book on how Indian democracy has succeeded: Pakistan Army chief tells officers

Link


Me thinks cwapistan will have a very different kind of coup this time. The usual jokes on tv are quite

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Postby Peregrine » 14 Feb 2017 04:07

Prem wrote:Jumma The 13th got few Miskeen.
Prem Ji : Cwapistanio kay wastay Hur Roz Jumma Hota Hai!
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Bhurishravas » 14 Feb 2017 04:24

http://www.dawn.com/news/1314555/two-bd ... -in-quetta
Two Bomb Disposal Squad officials (BDS) were killed in Quetta’s Sariab Road area on Monday evening while disarming an explosive device.
“The BDS team was defusing a bomb planted by unknown miscreants when it went off,” police officials said.

:mrgreen:

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Prem » 14 Feb 2017 04:40

Peregrine wrote:
Prem wrote:Jumma The 13th got few Miskeen.
Prem Ji : Cwapistanio kay wastay Hur Roz Jumma Hota Hai!
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:rotfl: Allah love Paki so much that he made Everyday Jummahday for Pakistan so they can have blast living Paki life.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby ranjan.rao » 14 Feb 2017 04:45

i am awaiting raa ka haath

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Postby Peregrine » 14 Feb 2017 05:08

Lahore blast: what does it mean for the PSL final

A blast on Monday shook Lahore’s Mall Road, claiming lives and injuring many others; the deaths have hurt everyone in the country and the loss of important lives can never be neglected.

However, what cannot be ignored is that the final of the ongoing Pakistan Super League (PSL) was to be held in just a few weeks’ time at Lahore’s Gaddafi Stadium — nearly six kilometres away from the blast site.

The return of cricket to Pakistan was being touted as a successful demonstration of the PSL final in Lahore – a move which could have presented the country as a safe nation to the world.

PSL chairman Najam Sethi, on many occasions, had said that foreign players participating in the league have signed contracts which abide them to play the final in Lahore, however, they can always quote security as an issue.

The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) is already suffering from the extra financial expenditure that they have to bear for hosting home matches in the UAE, and this blast will have drastic consequences to the prospect of cricket returning to the country.

As things stand, the verdict on whether PSL final will be staged in Lahore or not stands in the hands of the PCB. However, PSL chairman Sethi has time and again said that if the security situation is not clear, then the final might be moved out of Pakistan.

Let us as a nation pray that foreign players show solidarity with Pakistan and play the final in Lahore. Hopefully Sethi, PCB Chairman Shaharyar Khan and the Pakistani players will help convince the foreign ones to come to Pakistan for the PSL2 final.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Kashi » 14 Feb 2017 06:28

saip wrote:Tubelight time?

Read book on how Indian democracy has succeeded: Pakistan Army chief tells officers

Link


...And ensure that it never happens in Pakistan.

Tubelight indeed.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby g.sarkar » 14 Feb 2017 16:47

svinayak wrote:The older person says that US should have the ability to get out of the Af region focus out of its policy. He knows the old history that they are foreigners in the region and have no role to play.

Remember the poem:
...When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains,
And the women come out to cut up what remains,
Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains
An' go to your Gawd like a soldier.
....
Rudyard Kipling
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Bhurishravas » 14 Feb 2017 18:12

Imho, all jihadi attacks in Fakistan are now designated as suicide attacks.
Initially, the media reports on Lahore blast said it was a car bomb. As the casualties rose, the attack was elevated to suicide attack status.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby SSridhar » 14 Feb 2017 19:10

'China should ask Pakistan to address India's concern on terrorism': US Think Tank - PTI
The Trump Administration needs to convince China to ask Pakistan to take "good-faith measures" to address India's concerns on cross-border terrorism which is a key trigger of Indo-Pak military escalation, a top American think-tank said in a new report.

US Institute of Peace in the report warned that any terrorist activity coming from across the border might escalate into a major war, which could be disastrous for the region.

"Washington needs to convince Beijing to urge Pakistan to take good-faith measures addressing India's concerns on cross-border terrorism, which is a key trigger of military escalation. Beijing could in turn prod Islamabad to prosecute terrorists involved in attacks on India as a first step," USIP said.

"Meanwhile, the Indian government should abandon its current policy of seeking to internationally isolate Pakistan. These moves by both countries could create an opening for resuming talks and politically settling the Kashmir issue," it said.

"Although Beijing prefers that a war not break out, it also benefits from some level of Indo-Pakistani tension, which splits India's strategic attention on China," the report said.

While it makes some right noises, the report also allows an escape route to Pakistan by insisting India's actions in the present (stop isolating Pakistan internationally) while leaving Pakistan's actions for the future and that too through Chinese efforts while acknowledging that "China's 'protection' of Pakistan-based militant groups that have launched terrorist attacks in India from international criticism and punitive actions undermines its claims of neutrality". So, how can China play any meaningful role with Pakistan?

The US think tanks seem to be producing a spate of reports that seemingly take a slightly harder line approach than before against Pakistan but continue with the same old tactic of allowing Pakistan to escape while holding India accountable.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby arun » 14 Feb 2017 21:20

Peregrine wrote: Lahore blast: what does it mean for the PSL final

............{rEST sNIPPED}...............



What it means is that any illusion that Non-Pakistani cricketeers would participate in a Lahore PSL final just went up in smoke going by what Najam Sethi had to say:


Sethi says foreign cricketers not ready to play in Lahore


What it also means is that the Mohammadden Terrorist fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan will not be seeing much international squash as well:


Lahore blast: PSA cancels nine events to be held in Pakistan

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Atmavik » 14 Feb 2017 21:34

Bhurishravas wrote:Imho, all jihadi attacks in Fakistan are now designated as suicide attacks.
Initially, the media reports on Lahore blast said it was a car bomb. As the casualties rose, the attack was elevated to suicide attack status.


they are designated as such so that the case can be closed and avoid further investigation. a jurno spilled the beans on it saying further investigation may reveal embarrassing details. much easier to cry 4th gen waar fare and blam RAA

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby arun » 14 Feb 2017 21:44

“While Pakistani authorities were busy banning Valentine's Day and cracking down on those planning to celebrate it, a suicide bomber killed 13 people at a rally. What does the incident say about the country's priorities?” …………………………..

The Lahore bombing and Pakistan's misplaced priorities

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby CRamS » 14 Feb 2017 22:34

SSridhar wrote:The US think tanks seem to be producing a spate of reports that seemingly take a slightly harder line approach than before against Pakistan but continue with the same old tactic of allowing Pakistan to escape while holding India accountable.


India's own TSP policy is a joke, and what this think tank proposes as does US in general is an even more cruel joke. And ModiJi is as confused as his predecessors. He keeps blowing hot and blowing cold. Latest is India participating in some literature fest in Karachi. And BJP wallahs are busy spinning this nonsense on TV while claiming to "isolate" TSP. Give me a break.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Pathik » 15 Feb 2017 08:11

CRamS wrote:
SSridhar wrote:The US think tanks seem to be producing a spate of reports that seemingly take a slightly harder line approach than before against Pakistan but continue with the same old tactic of allowing Pakistan to escape while holding India accountable.


India's own TSP policy is a joke, and what this think tank proposes as does US in general is an even more cruel joke. And ModiJi is as confused as his predecessors. He keeps blowing hot and blowing cold. Latest is India participating in some literature fest in Karachi. And BJP wallahs are busy spinning this nonsense on TV while claiming to "isolate" TSP. Give me a break.


The amount of control isi may have in policy making and social influence may be much more than expected. We just simply cannot decide on a black and white policy on shitistan yet since independence and countless atrocities.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby habal » 15 Feb 2017 12:11

CRamS wrote:
SSridhar wrote:The US think tanks seem to be producing a spate of reports that seemingly take a slightly harder line approach than before against Pakistan but continue with the same old tactic of allowing Pakistan to escape while holding India accountable.


India's own TSP policy is a joke, and what this think tank proposes as does US in general is an even more cruel joke. And ModiJi is as confused as his predecessors. He keeps blowing hot and blowing cold. Latest is India participating in some literature fest in Karachi. And BJP wallahs are busy spinning this nonsense on TV while claiming to "isolate" TSP. Give me a break.


Modi is not confused at all, Pak army generals who keep a close look at their adversary know better than you and they keep a tab on military procurements and inventory management knows that this one is not kidding when it comes to Pakistan.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby menon s » 15 Feb 2017 17:28

Under mtcr India and Russia can increase the range of brahmos to 600 kms. Foreign affairs is also working on diplomatic fronts on jud and jaish. A platform is being to hit at rogue west Pakistani assets from naval platforms when need arises.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Falijee » 15 Feb 2017 23:03

Afghanistan Being Blamed Again !

Pakistan summons Afghan envoy over terrorist attacks :roll:

ISLAMABAD: The Foreign Office on Wednesday summoned Afghan Deputy Head of Mission (DHM), Syed Abdul Nasir Yousafi and registered concern over recent terrorist attacks on Pakistan by Jumaat-ul-Ahrar operating from Afghanistan, foreign Office said in a statement.
Afghanistan was urged to take urgent measures to eliminate the terrorists and their sanctuaries, financiers and handlers operating from its territory.An Aide-Memoire containing details of the terrorist attacks and supporting information was also shared with the Afghan Deputy Head of Mission. – SAMAA


PS: India and Afghanistan are the favourite (foreign ) "whipping boys" of the Paki Govt ; but no one - including the domestic Aam Abduls and the phoren entities such as Scotland Yard and UN - "buys this nonsense" !

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Postby Peregrine » 16 Feb 2017 02:05

YEH KYA HO RAHA HAI!

Windfall for Chinese on coal fired projects

ISLAMABAD: In what appear to be heavily China-favoured deals, Pakistan has offered up to 34.5 per cent annual profit on equity invested in coal-fired energy projects of China-Pakistan Economic Corridor and loans have been obtained at six per cent interest rates, excluding insurance cost.

The official documents revealed that by including the cost of insurance, also paid to a Chinese insurance company, the cost of borrowings would surge to 13 per cent. Adding insult to injury, the government has already exempted income of Chinese financial institutions from dividend income tax.

The Ministry of Water and Power on Tuesday submitted details of terms of conditions of financing and tariff structures of energy projects in a meeting of the National Assembly’s Standing Committee on Planning and Development, shedding some light on these deals.

The ministry provided financing details of eight energy projects having cumulative generation capacity of 7,880 megawatts and being set up at a cost of $12.54 billion. Their sponsors have obtained $9.5 billion loans at an interest rate of London Interbank Offered Rate (Libor) plus 4.5 per cent, according to these documents. The six-month Libor rate was 1.34 per cent and one-year Libor was 1.71 per cent. This would translate into an interest rate equivalent to 5.84 per cent to 6.2 per cent.

The debt to equity ratio for all these eight projects is 75 per cent debt and 25 per cent equity except in case of Karot hydropower project where the debt ratio is 80 per cent.

Besides, China Export and Credit Insurance Corporation (Sinosure) would charge seven per cent fee on the insurance of the loans given to these companies.

Pakistan and China had signed CPEC Energy Framework Agreement in November 2014. Out of $55 billion estimated cost of the CPEC, an amount of $35 billion is earmarked for energy projects.

However, the alarming thing was the return on equity that in case of coal-fired power plants was in between 27.2 per cent to 34.49, almost double the standard 17 per cent rates. In case of hydel-based projects, the internal rate of return (IRR) was 17 per cent. The high return on equity had to be given to make these projects attractive, as people were not ready to invest in coal-based projects, said Omer Rasul, Additional Secretary Ministry of Water and Power after the meeting.

In his article, “Financing burden of CPEC”, former Governor State Bank of Pakistan, Dr Ishrat Husain recently wrote, “The loans would be taken by Chinese companies, mainly from the China Development Bank and China Exim Bank, against their own balance sheets”.

Dr Husain estimated that at 40 per cent equity and 17 per cent guaranteed return on these projects would entail annual payments of $2.4 billion from the current account.

But the details showed that the equity is 25 per cent while the return is as high as 34.55 per cent. So far, National Electric Power Regulatory Authority (NEPRA) has approved tariffs for eight CPEC energy projects, said Safeer Ahmad, Director Finance of Private Power Infrastructure Board (PPIB).

Pakistan has approved 30.65 per cent return on Equity for 660MW Engro Powergen Thar coal-II project. The project cost is $995.4 million and the sponsors have taken $746.55 million loan at almost 6 per cent interest rate. The project got tariff of Rs8.5 per unit.

The government did not approve a separate policy for CPEC energy projects as these plants are set up under the existing energy policies, said Ahsan Iqbal, Minister for Planning and Development, at the floor of the Senate.

The government gave 27.2 per cent return on equity to 1320MW Port Qasim Power Plant. The total cost of the project is $1.92 billion and the sponsors have arranged $1.44 billion loan at 6 per cent interest rate.

The 1320MW Thar Coal power plant by Shanghai Electric Power got the maximum return on equity at 34.49 per cent. The total project cost is $1.92 billion and the sponsors have obtained $1.44 billion loan at 6 per cent interest rate. However, the 1320MW Hubco Coal power, being built in collaboration with China Power Hub, having same cost and debt-equity ratio would get 27.2 per cent return on equity.

The 330MW Thar Energy Limited project, having $497.7 million cost, would attract 30.65 per cent return on equity. The sponsors have got $373.3 million loan.

The 1320MW Sahiwal coal power project would get 27.2 per cent return on equity and the sponsors have obtained $1.44 billion loan, according to Ministry of Water and Power.

Omer Rasul said that the CPEC energy projects were in IPP mode and there was no public financing involved. He said that the average tariff of coal-based power plant was Rs8.3 per unit. However, energy experts said that the actual tariff was far higher than this, as the NEPRA calculated the tariff at 85% plant capacity.

The 870MW Suki Kinari hydro project, having $1.7 billion cost would get 17 per cent internal rate of return. The project will be completed by obtaining $1.3 billion loan at 6 per cent interest rate. The 720MW Karot hydro power project will also get 17 per cent internal rate of return. Its debt-equity ratio is 80-20 and the company has got $1.4 billion loan to complete it.
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Postby Falijee » 16 Feb 2017 02:08

"Braggart Mush" "Sweet Talked " Late King Abdullah Of Saudi To "Gifting Him" Millions Of Dollars So That He Can Purchase Expensive Apartments In Dubai And Londonistan :twisted:

Musharraf admits to untaxed Rs1 bn in foreign accounts

ISLAMABAD: After almost four years of the unearthing of his dubious journey from rags to riches by The News, General (retd) Pervez Musharraf has now finally revealed that he was helped by the late Saudi King Abdullah in a big way after he left power and had no place of his own to live in the UK.In a TV interview, Musharraf said that he did not beg for money but King Abdullah gave him a huge amount. :rotfl: He did not disclose the exact amount paid to him.
Once a close aide of the former dictator, on condition of not being named, told this correspondent recently that besides the Saudi King, Musharraf was also helped by rulers of another Arab state. Musharraf, however, did not confirm this.In 2012, this newspaper had unearthed General (retd) Pervez Musharraf’s foreign accounts containing millions of dollars. A Musharraf party leader then strongly rebutted the report. Mush is well known for talking from "two sides of the mouth" :D
In his memoirs - In the Line of Fire - Musharraf admitted that he had come from a really humble background where they did not have enough money but now he is billionaire.In 2012, The News in an investigative story had revealed foreign bank accounts of Musharraf and that he has also made huge saving investments abroad to earn large profits. In just one Dubai-based online trading service — MMA — Musharraf had US$1,600,000 (Rs 145 million) in 2011. Musharraf’s account number in this company was AV77777.
In an interview with a private TV channel, the former president said that he did not ask the then prime minister to go to Washington and ask President Clinton to use his good offices for ceasefire in Kargil. He said during his government, Pakistan enjoyed great respect at the international level and internal economic situation was strong and GDP growth was more than India.In reply to a question, Musharraf said his conscience is clear that he did not commit corruption of a single paisa and if it is proved against him or his family he was ready to answer that. He said he did not have a dollar account offshore.
The former president disclosed that after a few months of leaving Pakistan he went to Saudi Arabia to perform Umra and King Abdullah then asked him where he was staying. Musharraf said King Abdullah considered him as a younger brother and gave him a big amount of money by opening a bank account in his name in London. He said a team of Saudi officials came to him at midnight (hush hush - no witness !) and got his signatures on papers to open the bank account. He said after that he started lectures and for every 40-minute lecture he got between 100,000 to 150,000 dollars. He said he even gave lectures in India and charged them ( money from "kuffar" is halal in Malsi!) but did not claim any money from TV interviews.
To keep himself "relevant" in the Paki public eye, this pompous Ex Kammundu has confirmed the above again , in his latest TV interview with Nadeem Malik of Saama TV :D

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Postby Falijee » 16 Feb 2017 02:17

Russia Denies That It Is "In Bed With The Pakis" In Afghanistan .

Comment by the Information and Press Department on remarks by USFOR-A Commander John Nicholson


The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation


We took note of yet another fit of “conspiracy theory” fever – you can’t call it otherwise – hitting the Commander of the US and NATO Forces in Afghanistan, Gen. John Nicholson, who claims that Russia has been supplying arms to the Taliban to undermine the US and NATO positions in Afghanistan. These groundless claims were echoed by a well-known Russophobe, Senator John McCain. ( The candidate for the War Party !)At the same time, acknowledging that the security situation in Afghanistan is truly lamentable, General Nicholson is asking Washington to send several thousand troops in addition to the existing, almost 10,000-strong, US military contingent in the IRA in the hope that this will help address current problems. He must have forgotten that there were about 100,000 US troops there not long ago who also failed to mitigate the situation.All of this is strongly reminiscent of the futile attempts to accuse Russia of their own failures in Afghan affairs. This is likely to help him gain favour in certain circles in Washington but will hardly improve the depressing security situation in Afghanistan.

Pakistan has been recently trumpeting it's increasing so-called close relations with the Russkies; but the Russians are cautious and know, from past experience, that the Pakis cannot be trusted ; their "legs" are wide open to the highest bidder :mrgreen:

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Postby Peregrine » 16 Feb 2017 04:55

Lahore bomb blast: an abysmal tragedy

Insecurity is the ‘risk of something very bad happening’. That risk despite the national resolve and the sacrifices of our armed forces has not mitigated. The recent example of that is the suicide blast in front of the Punjab Assembly in Lahore in which more than 13 people have been killed and another 83 injured. Jamaat-ul-Ahrar, a faction of the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan, has not only claimed the responsibility of the attack it has also revealed the name and photograph of the suicide bomber who carried out the attack. It has also threatened to carry out more such attacks announcing the start of what it calls ‘Operation Ghazi’

In the post-attack debate in our electronic as well as print media the blame of attack is being laid on the shoulders of India linking it as an Indian attempt to derail the possibility of holding the final of IPL in Lahore — something that was being seen as the ‘we can do it event’ to bring international cricket back to the cricketing fields of Pakistan. The suicide bomber neither came from India nor is the TTP an organisation that is based in that country. However, if the long arm of the Indian intelligence can reach deep into the heartland of our country and rent suicide bombers to undermine our security then that too is more reflective of our poor counterintelligence than their exceptional intelligence ability. In short, it is our own poor civil and military security preparedness that contributes to our lack of security. The enemy (whosoever it may be) only takes advantage of this unpreparedness.

Given that the TTP has taken responsibility for the attack, we should be more focused in how to set our own house in order rather than find excuses to hide behind the curtain of ‘blame India’. Even if we blame India such blame will fall on its deaf ears and it’s not only the deaf ‘Indian ears’ we are talking here it is the ‘world’s ears at large’. The problem with our insecurity is not that a suicide bomber can pop up at a crowded place and blow himself and many around him to pieces — the problem is that we have become too insensitive to do anything about this. The world has stop coming to us (IPL) not because of the insecurity or ‘terrorism threats’ — they are pretty much there in New York, London, Berlin and Sydney as well. They don’t come here because they know that we lack the national resolve (and please don’t mistake that for military resolve) to stand up and fight against it. Blessed with a leadership that sets lopsided national priorities — fighting terrorism is a ‘hard business of national security’ from which the civilian leadership has taken its hands off. This is not a recent phenomenon — the one-dimensional (military operation) execution of the National Action Plan (NAP) bears witness to the strategy of reluctance employed by the current government. At the heart of this government’s strategy of reluctance has been its deliberate choice of not executing military operation in Punjab — despite the military’s insistence for it and the resultant political drama that marred the complete debate in the mud of controversy and gifted this nation ‘Dawn Leaks’. Is there a method or way forward to prevent the terrorists from hitting us whenever and wherever they want with such impunity? If there has been none — Can we find one now?

It starts from the political field where the leadership instead of making choices (finding political will to fight extremism) is more content on taking sides. All political parties have political manifestos that showcase their ‘ideological tilt’. Yet in matters of attaining political powers and seeking the reins of governance not one but all settle their differences and embrace one another in a big ‘political huddle of compromise’. Those collecting charities in the name of the religion and those seeking the foreign funds to run the mills and factories that produce men like Nasrullahs all sit in a big ‘hypocritical political merger’ with those that raise the flag of rooting out extremism and fighting terrorism ‘until the last terrorist is alive’. It is this lack of ‘political will’ which is considered hypocritical by a global audience that questions the inability to take an absolute side on the issue of extremism by the major political parties in this country– a gap in our words and deeds popularly termed our ‘policy duality’. And when the world reacts to demonstrate how ‘our hypocrisy’ is not ‘their hypocrisy’ by denying visas to members of the Senate (Hafiz Hamdullah and Abdul Ghafoor Haidri) who they (the world) think have an ‘extremist ideological tilt’— we instead of searching for an answer why, react by saying that we will also demonstrate quid pro quo and extend the same treatment to their dignitaries hopeful of visiting us.

Does the elevation of a person from the streets of the city to the chairs of the Senate bring a change in his/her ideological thinking? Have the two senators any good words to speak about the USA? Barring that — just google the statements of the leader of their party JUI (F) and you would be questioning why these senators in the first place should be interested in going to an ‘infidel and an enemy of our country?

Pakistan deserves a political leadership that should correctly read the threat, preempt it and then utilise all resources at its disposal to mitigate it and protect the people from it. But is the safety and wellbeing of the people of this country the top priority of its political leadership? Do we have a national security staff that knows what constitutes our national security? Who is it for? And how it is to be achieved?

‘Hit them before they hit us’. ‘If they hit us we will hit back harder’ are the battle cry’s of the nations that are not confused in how they want to fight the war against terror. It is not clear what guides the current governments strategy of reluctance to go after the swarm of Jihadis and militant organisations nested in Punjab. But if it is the fear of loss of its vote bank in southern and central Punjab then rest assured that the security reality will catch up sooner with this government than the political reality.

In the military jargon it is said that ‘the generals adjust the strategic basis of their operational plans in light of the civilian dictates (policy)’. However, when the execution and implementation of military operational plans is delayed (Punjab) on purpose then the consequent environment of insecurity and uncertainty (worsening security environment) itself dictates the adjustment of policy in view of the operational reality(military aim of winning war on terror being put to hold).

If it is the policy of the current government not to conduct military operations (Karachi-style Rangers operation) in Punjab then that policy will now be tested. Also tested would be the military commander’s resolve. How would General Bajwa react to this terrorist attack and their threats? It’s time we saw through his words and deeds something of his predecessor in him.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Falijee » 16 Feb 2017 07:46

"Strategic Ally" Deports 40,000 ( :!: ) Pakis :D

Saudi Arabia expels around 40,000 Pakistani workers

Thousands of foreign national workers allegedly expelled from country over visa violations and security concerns, as protests over unpaid wages continue.
Over 39,000 people have been deported since October 2016 over visa violations and security concerns, the Saudi Gazette reported, citing unnamed interior ministry officials. As well as crimes including drug trafficking, forgery and theft, an unknown number of those removed from the country were suspected to have links to ISIS and other extremist groups, the paper said. The alleged mass deportations come after a year of strikes and other unrest in the kingdom due to unpaid wages following the oil market's decline and subsequent blow to the Saudi economy.
Official Saudi statistics say that 243,000 Pakistanis were deported between2012 -2015. Mass deportations of migrant workers - which Human Rights Watch and other rights organizations say often involve illegal beatings and detainment in poor conditions - are fairly common.As is so common all over the Gulf, the Paki "Aam Abduls" get "special treatment" at the hands of these corrupt Sheikhs, while the Paki elite like Mush and the Bad Sharif are "royally treated" and are offered "special incentives " in the form of "free financial gifts" ( and "special jobs" ) to purchase expensive real estate in Dubai and Londonistan !
While the Philippines and India have also seen hundreds of thousands of citizens returned home after lay-offs in Saudi Arabia, the deportation of Pakistani workers has been mainly driven by security concerns, the New Arab reported.
So, in spite of giving their "crown jewels" to the Saudis, the"Head Of The Two Holy Mosques" does not trust the "strategic ally" :D
Several prominent Saudi politicians, including Abdullah Al-Sadoun, chair of the security committee of the country's Shura Council, have called for tougher screening processes for Pakistani nationals before they are allowed entry into the country."Pakistan itself is plagued with terrorism due to its close proximity with Afghanistan. The Taliban extremist movement was itself born in Pakistan," he said.Approximately 80 Pakistani nationals are currently in prison in Saudi Arabia charged with terror or security related offences.
In 2016, 35-year-old Abdullah Gulzar Khan, a Pakistani citizen who had lived and worked in Saudi Arabia legally for the previous 12 years, blew himself up in a suicide attack near the US consulate in Jeddah. No other injuries were reported in the incident.Two Pakistani nationals as well as one Sudanese and one Syrian were also arrested for allegedly planning a terror attack on a football match between the kingdom and the United Arab Emirates in Jeddah's Al-Jawhara Stadium last year. On the other hand, except for OBL, no Saudi citizen has been "responsible" for terrorism in Pakiland :twisted:

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Falijee » 16 Feb 2017 07:59

Pakistan "Defends" Islam At UN

Pakistan warns against defaming Islam

UNITED NATIONS - Pakistan has warned against linking Islam or any other faith with terrorism, while calling for fully analyzing and understanding the threat in all its complexities."The global campaign against terrorism cannot be reduced to a slogan slandering Islam or any other religion or race," Ambassador Maleeha Lodhi told the UN Security Council on Monday, as she reiterated Pakistan's commitment to do its part in eliminating the scourge of terrorism.Speaking in a debate on addressing the danger of terrorist attacks against critical infrastructure, she also underscored the need to examine the reasons why terrorism – despite a global campaign against this menace – continues to evolve in new and more virulent forms and ideologies and across ever extending geographic regions, threatening peace and security.
the implied threat that terrorism will continue unless ..... ( fill in the blank!)
Lodhi said Pakistan was suffering from "region-based and supported" terrorist acts ( RAA not named :roll: ) aimed at destroying and disrupting the life of the people, but the country was determined and fully capable of repelling such state sponsored terrorism.
In that spirit, the ambassador said, Pakistan joined the South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation's Convention on Suppression of Terrorism. "Unfortunately, Saarc as an organisation has become a victim of the hostile agenda of some of our neighbours," she said. " ( Diplomatic isolation of Pakistan is hurting :D )This has severely hampered the ability of our region to respond to its multiple challenges, including terrorism."

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Falijee » 16 Feb 2017 08:30

Paki Clerics Threaten Fatwa Against Condom Use If "Celebration" Of Valentine Day Is Not Stopped Forthwith !

Pakistan bans Valentine's Day for being unIslamic :roll:

Pakistan has become the latest country to ban Valentine's Day.It has prohibited all public celebrations and any media coverage because the celebration is not part of Muslim traditions.The ruling was handed down by the Islamabad High Court, following an unsuccessful attempt to ban the festival last year.President Mamnoon Hussain urged Pakistanis not to observe Valentine’s Day, which he criticised as a Western import that threatened to undermine Islamic values.“Valentine’s Day has no connection with our culture and it should be avoided,” he said at a ceremony last year. On the other hand, honour killing is part of the cultural tradition, so it should be "encouraged" :twisted:
The festival has seen its popularity increase in many cities in Pakistan in recent years, but religious groups have denounced it.The order was in response to a private petition which argued the festival promotes immorality, nudity and indecency under the guise of celebrating love. Women to be" under wraps" as per Sharia!
In 2015, Pakistan's top Islamic clerical body threatened to issue a fatwa against the sale of condoms following reports they were being sold together with chocolate to mark Valentine's Day. Chocolates and condoms should be declared "haram" !
The Pakistani ruling follows a protest against Valentine’s Day by students in Indonesia who believe the celebration encourages casual sex.Teenagers in the Indonesian city of Surabaya chanted “Say no to sex” in the latest expression of anger towards the celebration in the world’s largest Muslim-majority country.Religious police in Saudi Arabia banned the sale of all Valentine’s Day goods in 2008, telling shops to remove all red items - a move which is said to have led to a black market in roses, wrapping paper and “red goods”. Birds of the same feather flock together :D

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Falijee » 16 Feb 2017 08:57

Lahore Man Caught Selling "Sex Toys" In "Islamic Pakistan" :roll:

LAHORE – A vendor has been arrested in Lahore for selling sex toys in Chauburji Chowk.According to the FIR received by Daily Pakistan, a man was standing in the parking space of a private bank in the market area with his wares visible to passersby when some citizens noticed and called the police.
Farmanul Haq, 25, a BCom student at a private college, had allegedly been in the business for “a while” and was “earning handsome profits”, far more than he would in “any other business”.
According to reports, the suspect has told the police that his supplier was based in Karachi and that he has no local supply chain in Lahore. Haq also told the police that he also sold batteries and other necessary accessories required for “smooth operation” of the toys. Probably, the "reference" here is being made towards "artificial male and female organs" and "lubricating jellies" - in a country, which is numero uno in animal sex searches, according to Google chacha :twisted:
When asked if there was any tie to Valentine’s Day, the accused said there was not, explaining he was just there to make a delivery to a customer who had placed an order much earlier, ET reported.The accused was also produced before a judicial magistrate, where the judge sent him to jail on judicial remand.The complainant also admitted to being part of a network of other vendors in the city, Asif said, adding that investigations are being carried out in this regard and they will catch anyone involved in “this obscene business”.Police recovered 31 toys, two of which the accused was holding at the time of the arrest, while the rest were in a backpack hanging over his shoulder. The items were in multiple colours and 24 batteries were also recovered from the suspect.The case has been registered due to violations of sections 292-C and 293 of the Pakistan Penal Code (PPC).
. Interesting to see if the "evidence" will be produced in court, or the "evidence" will be "lost" , as so happens in similar cases like drug smuggling or gold smuggling :D

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Prem » 16 Feb 2017 11:15

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/186671 ... from-Saarc
Indian scholar concerned over Indian govt’s bid to expel Pakistan from Saarc :wink:

LAHORE: Indian politician, columnist and head of Observer Research Foundation Sudheendra Kulkarni has said that there is an intent among Indian think tanks to flare up and magnify the unrest in Balochistan in order to defile Pakistan’s image globally.The veteran Indian journalist-turned-politician, while speaking at the panel talk hosted by a private university, complimented the Pakistani people and the government for the fight against terrorism and said that there was a need for both countries to learn to see terrorism as a common threat instead of trying to malign each other through smear and subversive campaigns.

Lauding the educational institutions and history of Pakistan in the field of education, Kulkerni said that he visited the Punjab University which had the honour of producing two Nobel laureates Har Gobind Khorana and Professor Dr Abdus Salaam.He said that over 300,000 students went abroad to study every year from India that amounted to $10 billion every year expenditure, which was more than Indian budget for higher education. If the students are allowed to study in Pakistan by their government through easier visa regime and better relations, it would help a great deal, he said. :rotfl: He expressed concern over the negative approach currently being adopted by the Indian government regarding its campaign to eliminate Pakistan from Saarc and talked about how he was forced to conduct the South Asian Conference on Heritage Conservation without Pakistan because all Indian partners had threatened to boycott the conference if Pakistan was invited.He was of the view that it would be utter shortsightedness of India to pursue such a narrow-minded agenda when Pakistan was one of the fastest growing economies currently with tremendous opportunities.Kulkerni said that it was important that political leaders and parties had a consistent stance while in government or out of government.
Like plague, terrorism knows no borders, he said. As long as the Kashmir issue lingers, it's like a cancer that will only get worse, he added. Never there will be solution to Kashmir where 100 percent people on either side will be cheering, he said. However, with the right mindset 80 to 90 percent of the people can be satisfied and that is a massive achievement keeping precedents of international issues as a benchmark, the ex-foreign minister said.I A Rahman said that both countuires were twins with a common future, the sooner they realised the better. "We need to be talking about shared interests and being constructive components of the Asian century," I A Rahman said, adding that Indo-Pak conflict had destroyed many global and regional alliances and bodies and it might even dismantle Saarc. Shafqat Mahmood said that it is not always easy to even preach for peace sometimes and the current times are no different with sentiments of hatred flaring from the Indian side. Shafqat Mahmood expressed disappointment and said tht he was ina negative and pessimistic frame of mind as not even the low hanging fruit such as Sir Creek, Siachin and visa regime have not made any progress despite decades of diplomacy.He said that the Indian Media is a major hinderence in creatuing a pro-peace environment in India and that seeps into political realities of electoral politics and thus it becomes virtually impossible for any political party in India to voice pro peace and cooperation views regarding the two countries. Hassan Askari said that Indo-Pak relations are complex and convoluted and with periods of relative stability, they have mostly been marred with negativity. He sighted disinterest, hot and cold diplomacy, erratic dialogue and the inclusion of societal elites among policy makers as plausible reasons for it. He was of the view that the issue of POWs should be addressed as soon as possible as a low hanging fruit.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby sum » 16 Feb 2017 12:19

Lauding the educational institutions and history of Pakistan in the field of education, Kulkerni said that he visited the Punjab University which had the honour of producing two Nobel laureates Har Gobind Khorana and Professor Dr Abdus Salaam.He said that over 300,000 students went abroad to study every year from India that amounted to $10 billion every year expenditure, which was more than Indian budget for higher education. If the students are allowed to study in Pakistan by their government through easier visa regime and better relations, it would help a great deal, he said

^^ Do these guys really go full retard like this or its just for public consumption? :-?

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Bhurishravas » 16 Feb 2017 14:18

http://www.dawn.com/news/1314975/terror ... ic?preview
‘Terrorism increasing because children are not taught Arabic’
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ISLAMABAD: Members of the National Assembly Standing Committee on Cabinet Secretariat, while debating the Compulsory Education of Arabic Bill 2015, discussed whether the lack of Arabic as a subject in the curriculum was the cause of terrorism in Pakistan.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Chandragupta » 16 Feb 2017 15:12

Inzallah, once beoble in Bakistan learn Arabic, they will be no longer South Azians but Arabs. Mazzallah.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby arun » 16 Feb 2017 15:13

The Mohammadden Terrorist Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan stands accused of spying on brotherly momin United Arab Emirates (UAE).

Pakistani national on trial for spying in favour of the Embassy of Pakistan in the UAE and divulging secret information about a local telecommunication company:

Pakistani national, identified as A.A, stood trial in the court, accused of spying in favour of the Embassy of Pakistan in the UAE and divulging secret information about a local telecommunication company.

The defence lawyer told the court that his client did not mean to divulge confidential information about the company he was working for. "He was just exchanging information with some employees of the Pakistan embassy, who were intelligence officers of the Pakistani Embassy to the UAE……………….


Khaleej Times:

Pakistani telecom employee in court for spying

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby arun » 16 Feb 2017 15:52

Feb 15, 2017 article by Kevin Hulbert, former “senior intelligence officer” in the CIA’s Directorate of Operations, titled “The Never Ending Story: The Morass of Afghanistan and Pakistan” appearing in The Cipher Brief.

For the US Deep State it would seem talking themselves into fearfully surrendering to the demands of the Mohammadden Terrorist Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan is the most Statesmanlike Realpolitik course:

The new administration must surely be thinking about the challenges of Afghanistan and Pakistan and what to do. The region has bedeviled outsiders for generations. Afghanistan perplexed Alexander the Great, got the best of the British, beat up on the Soviet Union, and now it’s befuddled U.S. Presidents Barack Obama for the last eight years and George W. Bush for most of the eight years before that. While Obama had originally hoped to end our long U.S. military efforts in Afghanistan, he wound up going sideways over the last few years, grudgingly maintaining about 10,000 non-combat mission troops on the ground.

What might the new Trump administration do? On the good side, Secretary of Defense James Mattis has deep experience in the area. On the bad side, you unfortunately have a situation that frankly does not have any good answers. These are difficult foreign policy challenges for the U.S. (and the world), and ones where there are no real “solutions” to implement – only a slate of bad options from which you are going to have to choose something and try to make it work.

In Afghanistan, we have now had U.S. military forces in the country for over 15 years. What is the plan? Is there a plan? Are we getting out? Staying forever? Combat operations ended at the end of 2014.

There seem to only be two broad choices in Afghanistan for the new Commander in Chief – and both choices have serious downsides:
1.Stay the course and continue to spend tens of billions of dollars on Afghanistan every year, paying billions to U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) and billions to Afghanistan to support the Afghan National Army and other institutions. The only real mission today is to stop the country from falling to the Taliban and to prevent Afghanistan from becoming a safe haven for terrorists who might plan attacks against the West. Meanwhile, if we stay, the death toll for the U.S. continues as the casualties dribble in.
2.Pull out, save tens of billions of dollars, save some lives, but despite our best efforts to build an effective government and military in Afghanistan over the last 15 years, the country will probably fall to the Taliban in 30 days after we leave, causing a lot of people to wonder why we spent all that blood and treasure on Afghanistan. Then, the country will likely become a terrorist safe haven, too.

There is a third way: withdraw U.S. troops, but have the U.S. Intelligence Community monitor the area much more closely than it did in say, 2001, to ensure that Afghanistan does not again become a terrorist safe haven and to take decisive action if it does. This course of action is admittedly easier said than done. There is the added concern that if you lose the big U.S. military footprint, you’d have a real force protection issue, and it would be exceedingly difficult for others to stay in the country in large numbers. Further, you would be at risk of losing the entire (alleged) Predator program.

In James Mattis’ written testimony for his confirmation to be Secretary of Defense, when asked, “What are the U.S. national security interests and objectives in Afghanistan and what strategy to you recommend to achieve them?” his answer was a succinct, “We all remember what it felt like on 9/11 and 9/12. We should do what is necessary to prevent such an attack from occurring again.”

So, it might appear that the writing is on the wall: We’re likely to stay in Afghanistan, stuck there in a non-combat role, ensuring that the country never again becomes a safe haven for terrorists.

How much money have we spent in Afghanistan, and further, should we just keep on spending money there forever? To the first question, nobody really knows how much the war in Afghanistan has cost. You can add up all of the funding specifically approved by congress for the Afghan war through fiscal year 2017, but that only gives you a very partial understanding of the total costs. But, whatever the total, it is surely a number that is both staggering and disheartening. Some estimates put the total at over a trillion dollars. Others say it was “just” many hundreds of billions. The Congressional Research Service recently soberly opined that the cost of keeping one U.S. soldier in Afghanistan was approximately $3.9 million a year. It seems untenable to keep doing this forever and at some point, we are going to have to think about bringing our troops home and letting the chips fall where they may.

They don’t call it the graveyard of empires for nothing.

Pakistan represents an entire other host of issues. Pakistan is like the bank that is “too big to fail,” or “too big to allow to fail” more appropriately, because allowing the bank to fail could have catastrophic impacts on the greater economy. The “failure” of Pakistan would have implications for the world. We have big problems in Afghanistan with its population of 33 million people, but Pakistan has about 182 million inhabitants, over five times the size of Afghanistan.

With a failing economy, rampant terrorism, the fastest growing nuclear arsenal, the sixth largest population, and one of the highest birthrates in the world, Pakistan is of grave concern. But, what should we do?

The U.S. has given Pakistan tens of billions of dollars in aid, coalition support funds, and International Monetary Fund loans over the last 15 years because they helped us on terrorism, they helped us in Afghanistan (albeit not always as much as we had hoped), and because the specter of Pakistan collapsing presents the U.S. President with more nightmare scenarios than probably any other country in the world. So, we keep throwing money at it, trying to steer them towards good behavior, and with only limited success. But, we must keep trying. In the end, while Pakistan is not the most dangerous country in the world, it probably is the most dangerous country for the world.

There seem few levers to pull in Pakistan today, but if we pursue a strategy of containment or disengagement, things will only get worse. I used to brief U.S. policymakers that Pakistan had the very unique distinction of being both one of our best partners on counterterrorism and one of our worst partners on counterterrorism— all at the same time. Imperfect partners though they are, writing Pakistan off would be a big mistake because then we would lose the ability to work together with Pakistan on various efforts in that troubled region.

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