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Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby anupmisra » 16 Feb 2017 16:46

All hail Water-Iron-Honey-Mountain brother from another mother!!

Chinese textile park to further weigh on struggling Pak exports

Pakistan’s struggling textile industry is facing new threats of further losing its market share to China, which is heavily investing in textile manufacturing facilities in its province bordering the south Asian nation, a leading trade body said on Wednesday.
The anticipated glut of textile and garment from the Xinjiang textile park
Setting up of the textile park at Xinjiang will give a heavy blow to Pakistani textile exports
China’s textile-ware from Xinjiang passing through China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) to the Middle East and North Africa (MENA) region
Textile exports contribute around 60 percent to the Pakistan’s total exports
Pakistani markets are already awash with hordes of low cost Chinese products....Chances are high that Pakistan would be experiencing a similar influx of goods under China’s transit trade


All hail SeePack. The blatant cheeni land grab is now bearing fruits. But, are there any low hanging ones for the pakis to reap?

Harami link: https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/186506 ... ak-exports

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Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Peregrine » 16 Feb 2017 17:52

Law enforcers on their toes as terrorists trying to regroup

ISLAMABAD: Apparently the brutal suicide attack in Lahore that claimed 13 precious lives was carried out by the defunct Jamaatul Ahrar (JA) group of Tehreek-e-Taliban (TTP-JA) led by Umar Khalid Khurasani of Mohmand.

Investigators, however, are also digging deep if the attack was assisted by Lashkar-e-Jahangvi Al-Almi (LJA) or not. “LJA has its Punjabi base and previously both (TTP-JA and LJA) carried out joint terror attacks, this time there is likelihood that TTP-JA could have got the assistance of LJA for carrying out Lahore attack,” a senior Counter Terrorism Department (CTD) officer told this correspondent while requesting anonymity.

TTP-JA and LJA have already claimed an attack on FC in Chaman. Another blast on January 21, 2017 in Kurram Agency was also a joint venture of LJA and TTP Shahryar group of Mehsuds. LJA is also closely connected with Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) or Daesh.

However, previously the attacks like Gulshan Iqbal attack in Lahore on the eve of Easter in 2015 have been carried out by TTP-JA independently through their Lahore cell.

The investigators are also exploring whether the Lahore attack was assisted by the local Punjabi network of militants or their facilitators or it was carried out solely by the TTP-JA by their independent cell, source reveals. The latest statement and the video issued by the TTP-JA also reveal about their terror plans in the name of “Ghazi”, a titled adopted in the name of Abdur Rashid Ghazi, the deputy cleric of Lal Masjid Islamabad who was killed during the military operation against the Lal Masjid in 2007.

In the said statement of the group they have clearly hinted that they would attack the legislatures (federal and provincial parliaments and their members), civil and military law enforcement agencies, secular political parties and individuals, judiciary, elements of minorities (particularly the Qadianis) and the media persons who according to the group propagate for law enforcement agencies and the government etc.

The sources claim that following this statement the law enforcement agencies are on their toes for finding out the affiliates of the TTP-JA.

The officials dealing with counter terrorism issues at Interior Ministry and National Counter Terrorism Authority (NACTA) are unanimous that the militant organizations have joined hands shunning away their differences and have launched a new wave of terror against the state of Pakistan.

As per the reports of the defunct militant group the chief of TTP-JA has already appealed to other militant groups to form a united front where he is ready to fight as an ordinary fighter, giving a clear hint to rejoin TTP Fazlullah group. It is pertinent to mention that the a group of Mehsud militants led by Sajna have already joined TTP Fazlullah group on Feb 2, 2017.

In November 2016, leaders of 8 militant groups had a meeting reportedly in Afghanistan’s Ghazni province, neighboring Federally Administered Tribal Areas.

The meeting was attended either by the chiefs/Amirs or their second in command. They claim that the meeting was arranged by Yousaf Mansour Khurasani, chief of Lashkar-e-Jhangvi Al-Almi (LJA).

Yousaf Mansour, who hails from thickly populated metropolitan city of Karachi, has hit the media headlines after LJA’s claim of assisting Daesh (Islamic State) in the deadly attack of October 23 in Quetta. The attack took 62 lives of young police cadets.

The people who attended this meeting included Javaid Sawati, a close aide of TTP chief Mulla Fazlullah, currently hiding in Afghanistan following the military operation in South Waziristan. Sawati was previously heading the TTP Karachi chapter and currently he is coordinator of the group.

Jandullah, another key militant organization mostly active in Balochistan and partly in Karachi, was represented by Wajid Mehsud. Likewise Maulvi Khatir of TTP Sajna group, Shahryar Mehsud who leads the TTP Shaharyar group, were also present in the meeting.

The meeting was also attended by Abdul Wali of Jamaatul Ahrar, Mufti Ghufran of Khalifa Mansour group, Mullah Daud of Qari Hussain group. The sources claim that most of these groups were based in South Waziristan but they had to flee from the area following the military operation Zarb-e-Azb which started on June 15, 2014.

Following this meeting CTD Sindh had also issued an alert sensitising different law enforcement agencies of the country. Since then the police was on its toes regarding any possible attack in different parts of the country including Lahore, the heart of Punjab.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby rohitvats » 16 Feb 2017 19:03

Massive Salwar-browning by Najam Sethi - seems to have been given a quite chai-biskoot visit by men in black salwar-kameez on the issue of 90 acre land being given to former General Sharif:


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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Falijee » 16 Feb 2017 20:05

Hafiz Saeed, 37 others seek removal from ECL :roll:

LAHORE: Jamatud Dawa (JuD) chief Hafiz Muhammad Saeed and 37 others affiliated with the organisation have asked the Ministry of Interior to remove their names from the Exit Control List (ECL).
he lawyer stated the JuD had never been involved in any terrorist activity in Pakistan and was never blamed for any incident of terrorism or destruction of property. :wink:
The bench had observed: “In the present case the Government is not in possession of any evidence that the petitioners are risk to the security of Pakistan and merely on the basis of the UN Resolution their liberty cannot be curtailed.”The lawyer has requested the ministry of interior to delete the names of Hafiz Saeed and others from the ECL.

This "movie" has been played before - many times

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby arun » 16 Feb 2017 20:30

Friday comes a day early.

Demonstration of the IED Mubarak variant of the IEDology of Pakistan.

“Sufi” Mohammadden Shrine of Lal Shahbaz Qalandar at Sehwan in the Terrorist Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan, suicide bombed.

I will not at all be surprised if this attack turns out to be a case of Green on Green Intra-Mohammadden belief motivated act of violence:

40 injured as suicide bomber hits Lal Shahbaz Qalandar’s shrine in Sehwan

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby menon s » 16 Feb 2017 20:44

Almost 500 Chechens back from Syria have regrouped in Afghanistan as wilayat.e..khorosan.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby arun » 16 Feb 2017 20:54

Things seem to be hotting up in the Mohammadden Terrorist Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

In Punjabi Occupied Balochistan, a blow for freedom is struck. 3 Uniformed Jihadi’s of the Mohammadden Terrorist Fomenting Punjabi Dominated Military occupying Balochistan, are taken down in a demonstration of the IEDology of Pakistan:

Three personnel, including army captain killed in Balochistan IED blast

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby arun » 16 Feb 2017 21:18

arun wrote:Friday comes a day early.

Demonstration of the IED Mubarak variant of the IEDology of Pakistan.

“Sufi” Mohammadden Shrine of Lal Shahbaz Qalandar at Sehwan in the Terrorist Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan, suicide bombed.

I will not at all be surprised if this attack turns out to be a case of Green on Green Intra-Mohammadden belief motivated act of violence:

40 injured as suicide bomber hits Lal Shahbaz Qalandar’s shrine in Sehwan



Death toll in the Demonstration of the IED Mubarak variant of the IEDology of Pakistan at the “Sufi” Mohammadden Shrine of Lal Shahbaz Qalandar at Sehwan in the Terrorist Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan, climbs to 30.

While there is no indicator regards perpetrators, I will not at all be surprised if this attack turns out to be a case of Green on Green Intra-Mohammadden belief motivated act of violence:

At least 30 martyred in suicide bombing at Lal Shahbaz Qalandar shrine

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby SBajwa » 16 Feb 2017 21:30

This is definitely Green on Green. Wahabis/deobandis/salafis/etc murdering Barelvis/Shias/non-muslims who visit the shrine of Shahbaz Kalandar!

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby arun » 16 Feb 2017 21:43

Death toll in the Demonstration of the IED Mubarak variant of the IEDology of Pakistan at the “Sufi” Mohammadden Shrine of Lal Shahbaz Qalandar at Sehwan in the Terrorist Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan, vaults from 30 to 50.

At the rate at which the death toll is climbing, it might very well overtake the number of satellites ie: 104 launched by PSLV C-37. In any event if the number of Houris aka Hoors aka Virgins aka Raisins that have been launched by the demonstration of the IED Mubarak variant of the IEDology of Pakistan are taken into reckoning, PSLV C-37’s achievements have been left benhind in the dirt:

More than 50 martyred in suicide bombing at Lal Shahbaz Qalandar shrine

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Postby Peregrine » 16 Feb 2017 22:16

Confucius say "Dlop by Dlop we fill the Ocean"

Army Captain, two soldiers martyred in Awaran IED blast: ISPR
RAWALPINDI: Three Pakistan Army personnel including a Captain were martyred when an IED exploded on its convoy in Awaran, Balochistan, Inter Services Public Relations said Thursday.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Rishi Verma » 16 Feb 2017 22:19

Arun Ji, my theory was exactly that. Isro made Bakis want to do == with number 104 somehow. Thus the Sufi shrine attack. But as unusual, the Bakis will blame RAA and not ISRA.

Peregrine Ji, Jew misunquoted the proverb. I think it's goat by goat we get 72. Not dlop by dlop...

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Postby Peregrine » 16 Feb 2017 22:39

Yeh Dil Mangay More

Eight die as four bombers strike in Mohmand, Peshawar]
Political agent’s office in Mohmand, judges’ vehicle in Peshawar come under attack; three women judges among injured; five militants, one soldier also killed in subsequent search operations; President, PM, others condemn attacks

GHALLANAI/PESHAWAR: Eight persons were killed as four suicide bombers mounted attacks in the Mohmand Agency and Peshawar on Wednesday, local and official sources said.
Rishi Verma wrote:Arun Ji, my theory was exactly that. Isro made Bakis want to do == with number 104 somehow. Thus the Sufi shrine attack. But as unusual, the Bakis will blame RAA and not ISRA.

Peregrine Ji, Jew misunquoted the proverb. I think it's goat by goat we get 72. Not dlop by dlop...
Rishi Verma Ji :

Me no misunquoted the plovelb. Vely Solly Confucius all time be light!
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Postby Peregrine » 16 Feb 2017 22:47

Yeh Dil Mangay AUR More

At least 72 martyred in bombing at Lal Shahbaz Qalandar shrine
SEHWAN/KARACHI: At least 72 people were martyred Thursday when a suicide bomber attacked the crowded Sufi shrine of Lal Shahbaz Qalandar in Sehwan, injuring up to 250 others, senior police officials said.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Falijee » 16 Feb 2017 22:57

‘Terrorism increasing because children are not taught Arabic’ :roll:

ISLAMABAD: Members of the National Assembly Standing Committee on Cabinet Secretariat, while debating the Compulsory Education of Arabic Bill 2015, discussed whether the lack of Arabic as a subject in the curriculum was the cause of terrorism in Pakistan.The bill was moved by MNA Naeema Kishwar Khan, and debate on it began even though the mover of the bill was not in attendance.
Committee chairman Rana Mohammad Hayat Khan responded that the inclusion of Arabic would not increase job opportunities, and paraphrased Allama Iqbal, saying those who study Arabic would only get jobs selling oil.
This converted Muslim, known for his anti- Arab stance would be considered a pariah in present day Pakistan :D

As one reader has commented, that Pakistan would be better of , if English is banned and Arabic made compulsory :twisted:

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Postby Lilo » 16 Feb 2017 23:04


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxVXDvWarjk

The ISIS in their capacity of being the arab fourfathers of Pakis & in order to bring back to the pureland the arab purefaith did a pig Dhamaal in a sufi Dhamaal such as the one above .

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby SBajwa » 16 Feb 2017 23:26

all supposedly sufis came with Ghauri into India. Especially the top 4 their job was to convert the defeated people of India. Indians made them sing qawalis and gave them "praying at their Dargahs" which according to the newest version of Islam is "Shirk"., and thus wajib-ul-qatal in 2017.

Chisti of Ajmer, Faridudeen shakaranj (baba sheikh farid), Jaluludeen Bukhari (Delhi), Qalandar, Nizamudeen of Delhi. <-- all came into India with Ghauri and Bollywood makes them heroes of India!

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Lal Shahbaz Qalandar, son of Pir Syed Hasan Kabeeruddin,[2] was born in Marwand. His ancestors had migrated from Baghdad and settled in Mashhad, before moving again to Marwand.

He lived when the Ghaznavid and Ghurids ruled in South Asia.[3] A contemporary of Rumi, he travelled around the Muslim world and settled in Sehwan where he was eventually buried.[4] There is evidence[citation needed] of his presence in Sindh in 1196 when he met Pir Haji Ismail Panhwar of Paat and he is believed to have arrived in Sehwan around 1251. There he established a meeting house (khanqah), taught in the Fuqhai Islam Madarrsah and wrote his treatises Mizan-us-Surf, Kism-e-Doyum, Aqd and Zubdah. Lal Shahbaz lived a celibate life and died in the year 1300 at the age of 151[citation needed].

In Multan he met[according to whom?] Baha-ud-din Zakariya of the Suhrwardiyya, Baba Fariduddin Ganjshakar of the Chishtiyya and Syed Jalaluddin Bukhari. The friendship of these four became legendary, they were known as the Chahar Yar (In Persian "the four friends"). According to some historians[according to whom?] the four visited various parts[where?] of Sindh, Punjab (in present-day Pakistan) and southern part of India.[citation needed].

Shahbaz became a profound scholar of religions, fluent in many languages including Pashto, Persian, Turkish, Arabic, Sindhi and Sanskrit.[citation needed]

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby anupmisra » 17 Feb 2017 00:13

Finally!! Admittance to being an accessory and an abettor to a crime.

Taliban entered Pakistan as migrants on condition they would disavow militancy: Aizaz Chaudhry

The newly-appointed ambassador to the United States, Aizaz Chaudhry, on Thursday said that the Taliban had entered Pakistan as migrants, who had been told to steer clear of militant activities if they wanted to stay in the country


How's that working out for ya?

https://www.dawn.com/news/1315134/talib ... z-chaudhry

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby RCase » 17 Feb 2017 00:49

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/pakistan/100-dead-several-injured-in-suicide-attack-on-sufi-shrine-in-pakistan/articleshow/57193085.cms
100 dead, several injured in suicide attack on Sufi shrine in Pakistan

Befitting reply given (literally mooh tod jawab)! Ton scored.
India was able to put 104 satellites into space orbit. Bakistan has put 100 Pakis (could climb to over 104) into jannat orbit (or will it be jahnum because of less green)?

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby disha » 17 Feb 2017 02:22

Please confess., which BRF poster got promoted to FirstPost?

Here is the headline:

http://www.firstpost.com/sports/suicide-attack-on-pakistani-shrine-kills-72-claimed-by-islamic-state-reuters-3287508.html

The headline says:

Suicide attack on Pakistani shrine kills 72, claimed by Islamic State


And the soocide bummer entered via golden darwaaza!

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby nirav » 17 Feb 2017 02:27

http://www.dawn.com/news/1315139/army-c ... -restraint

Nawaz Sharif wrote:"The Sufi people predate Pakistan's history, and played an important part in the struggle for its formation," he said.


Ganja sathiya gaya hai. :rotfl:

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby A_Gupta » 17 Feb 2017 03:01

^^^ The solution - "enforce an end to Pakistan's support of the Taliban, and after that, Afghanistan can stand on its own" - doesn't occur to these jokers.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby sum » 17 Feb 2017 06:29

^^ Is it me or are things starting to really heat up in TSP-land with multiple action across the country?

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby anupmisra » 17 Feb 2017 08:18

sum wrote:^^ Is it me or are things starting to really heat up in TSP-land with multiple action across the country?


Lurking on the deaf and dumb site, it seems there have been and are ongoing multiple synchronized attacks across al bakistan. Hard to tell who is winning - green or more green abduls?

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Postby Falijee » 17 Feb 2017 08:42

RAA Agents Paki Embassy Staffers Disrupt "Good" Haqqani Event In D.C.
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Bullies and Buffoons: Washington Embassy’s Embarrassing Behaviour

Think tanks and academic conferences are ordinarily rather dull affairs. Analysts present their latest research and answer questions from journalists and other scholars. It is not uncommon to see someone gently nodding asleep near the back rows, so tea and coffee is often provided to help keep the audience awake. These events are typically gatherings of highly-educated people having a discussion about new research. Often there is some disagreement, but it is usually made respectfully with the point being to add to the discussion or correct some error. Last week, however, Washington Think Tank Hudson Institute held an event that was anything but ordinary moderated by Pakistan’s former Ambassador Husain Haqqani to present a new report on Pakistan-US ties.
Think tanks and academic conferences are ordinarily rather dull affairs. Analysts present their latest research and answer questions from journalists and other scholars. It is not uncommon to see someone gently nodding asleep near the back rows, so tea and coffee is often provided to help keep the audience awake. These events are typically gatherings of highly-educated people having a discussion about new research. Often there is some disagreement, but it is usually made respectfully with the point being to add to the discussion or correct some error. Last week, however, Washington Think Tank Hudson Institute held an event that was anything but ordinary moderated by Pakistan’s former Ambassador Husain Haqqani to present a new report on Pakistan-US ties.
Things take a turn for the worse, however, once Haqqani opens the discussion to members of the audience to take their questions and comments. There are those who agree and those who disagree, and then at about 58 minutes into the affair it happens. Some unseen person begins shouting from the back of the room while an elderly journalist is politely trying to ask a question. Haqqani calmly asks the shouting man to please compose himself and stop interrupting. At this point, it all comes crashing down. The man, off camera, completely loses it and begins uncontrollably screeching at the top of his lungs. Pakistaniyat in full display :D
“YOU ARE A RAW AGENT!!!”As the man is finally escorted out of the room by security agents, his tirade of senseless screaming is difficult to understand. He appears to be a crazy person who has somehow wandered in to the event from the street, and one can see the analysts and other guests laughing as they are embarrassed for him. Yes, it was embarrassing, but what is one person? Everywhere there are crazy people and certainly this man does not represent Pakistanis.
The discussion continues, but things continue down this embarrassing path. The screaming lunatic may be gone, but the commenters continue to be a steady stream of people planted by Pakistan Embassy in Washington. This is not an assumption – when they are handed the microphone, each person is asked to identify themselves. Two identify themselves, saying, “I am from Pakistan Embassy…” Others claim they are Pakistani-Americans but insisted on pronouncing Pakistan as ‘Pack-is-tan’ There is a "new Paki Boss" (Ambassador ) in D.C. Maybe, this is his first "official" action in "support" of Pakistan
Who were these people? It is normal and appropriate for the Embassy to send a representative to any event where Pakistan is discussed, but this quickly became comedic. Multiple military officers from Pakistan embassy’s military wing reportedly attended including Group Captain Ali Naeem Zahoor, air attache; Group Captain Rashid Siddiqui, Attache Defense Procurement (ADP Navy/Air) and Colonel Fawad Furrukh Butt. It has even been reported that alleged undercover ISI officer Colonel Muhammad Ishtiaq arrived with a van full of civilians recruited to harass the speakers and disrupt the event. The so-called Echendee Of Pakiland is at stake here !
However, the speakers and the rest of the audience seemed to find these agents funny, not intimidating. Col Fawad Butt caused the entire room to roar with laughter when he took the mic and announced, “Thank you very much. As the mic is with me, so now I have the control,” as if he had staged some sort of brilliant coup! His attempted coup was quickly put down, though, when Haqqani jokingly reminded him that things do not work this way as microphones can actually be turned off and then allowed him to carry on with his comment. :D
Several other Pakistanis, some possibly working under direction of Col Ishtiaq, stood and recited the same points over and over again, usually trying to change attention to India and Kashmir. After one example, Haqqani remarked: “So it comes down to the talking points that everyone was given” and once again the room burst into laughter. However this is not a laughing matter and the Embassy’s antics caused prestigious American analyst Dr Marvin Weinbaum – who had earlier stated that he was an ‘outlier’ in wanting to not reprimand Pakistan publicly – to warn that, ‘Pakistanis must take this report seriously and realise the mood of Washington’.As is so common in Pakistan, FS "jobs" in western capitals are much sought after, but are usually filled not on competency basis, but on "sifarish" factors !
Watching the entire video, it stands out that it is the former Ambassador Haqqani who allows a constant stream of critical comments while it is the current Embassy staff and its not-so-educated ‘proxies’ who appear dedicated to silencing any criticism. Ironically, one of the well-spoken Embassy officials at the event noted that “there is a need for skilled diplomacy” in Pakistan-US relations. He couldn’t have been more correct. Unfortunately, what took place at The Hudson Institute was the exact opposite of skilled diplomacy. It was bullying buffoonery, and it was a national embarrassment.It will take "decades" for a "Pakistan lobby" to surface in DC :twisted:

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby bharotshontan » 17 Feb 2017 10:05

This post might belong to the Indian interests thread, but this level of cynical glee at something that to me is the last strand of Bharat existing under Pakistani occupation being blown up is not something I find joy in. I understand the hesitations in accepting the position of Sufi in the Indic religious space, but it is my opinion that Sufism was digesting Islam into Hinduism than vice versa, and it was external machinations starting from British policy of census down to partition continuing to this day in propping up of Pakistan etc that might make it seem like Sufis always existed with a goal in mind that thousand years from now Hindus will be turned into anti Hindus. But I really doubt that interpretation.

These people are being blasted also for being pseudo Muslims and Hindus in practice to be honest. If you look at videos and documentaries from these shrines many don't look different from our Sadhus. We need to develop a calibrated approach in which we need to feel for an attack on Sufis by ISIS types as an attack on Dharmics. If Sufis attack Hindus in India that's a different story, but there needs to be a caste system in terms of who is closer and who is further. Just writing them off as green on green seems insensitive to our own selves. I'd hope an Indian would stick up for a Pakistani getting beaten up by an Arab employer in Dubai, even if Pakistani might not do the same for an Indian.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Rayar » 17 Feb 2017 10:13

This is my first post on BRF after lurking for years.

Regular hit jobs on shias are termed as IS:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 198881.cms
Is this to garner eyeballs from new khan administration? Or for another round of begging for fighting IS?

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Pathik » 17 Feb 2017 10:23

bharotshontan wrote: I'd hope an Indian would stick up for a Pakistani getting beaten up by an Arab employer in Dubai, even if Pakistani might not do the same for an Indian.


Two nation theory saar. We cannot do away with Indian muslims. So only possible worthwhile propaganda is show them how islam is destroying their life and try to free them from it by assimilating them into our practices. Rahi Shitisthan ki baat...its a written off state. Whether arab beats them or they beat arab - good for us onlee

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby g.sarkar » 17 Feb 2017 10:36

Pathik wrote:Two nation theory saar. We cannot do away with Indian muslims. So only possible worthwhile propaganda is show them how islam is destroying their life and try to free them from it by assimilating them into our practices. Rahi Shitisthan ki baat...its a written off state. Whether arab beats them or they beat arab - good for us onlee

Indians in Arapland should give some pain balm to the Arap in case he hurt his arm during the beating.
Apropos the bombing, Shia and the Ahmedia were involved in supporting the partition. Why the grief for their suffering now?
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby bharotshontan » 17 Feb 2017 10:56

Pathik wrote:
bharotshontan wrote: I'd hope an Indian would stick up for a Pakistani getting beaten up by an Arab employer in Dubai, even if Pakistani might not do the same for an Indian.


Two nation theory saar. We cannot do away with Indian muslims. So only possible worthwhile propaganda is show them how islam is destroying their life and try to free them from it by assimilating them into our practices. Rahi Shitisthan ki baat...its a written off state. Whether arab beats them or they beat arab - good for us onlee


I understand the pragmatism, I'm just saying let's not get to the point of cloaking cynicism under the pragmatism though. Bharat is ultimately a civilization, and it has outlived and will continue to outlive all nations or states that prop up on it. How is a Pakistan today any different from any other mlechchha ruler like a Bactrian dynasty that managed to lord over northwestern plains of subcontinent? Over centuries and millennia, borders always changed. The stable boundary is at the Himalaya between civilized Bharat and barbarian Eurasia. Sometimes we over extend and bring peace and upliftment to the borderlands, like Hindu Shahis or when central Asia was Buddhist. Sometimes they over extend and bring their chaos on our turf. Think of bloodthirsty clusterfks of Baloch, Afghan, Turkish, Mongolian, Uzbek, etc nomads baying for Hindu blood in same area six hundred years ago, while also picking each other off. Heck go back, all the Kushans, Scythians, Huns, Tocharians, Greeks etc, same people as how today you have ISIS, Taliban, Al Qaeda, Lashkar, Jaish etc.

In the temporary, sure I make peace with two nation theory, but accepting it internally is something self defeating. It only means the turf war is totally given up and it gets even closer to home. Now chaos is happening in south India also, place where Muslim communalism was considered non existent compared to north.

Sorry for long rant. Just the other day I was listening to a qawwali from this Sehwan sharif. I like the tabla, I like the videos where they're showing masses of people with diyas doing aarti, the cooking of langar, the holy men looking exactly like sadhu babas. This blast seems to hit home for me. I'm not cynical enough to write this off as green on green, to me it seems an awful lot like green on saffron. Also what is two nation theory in thirty years when TSP as we know it doesn't exist?

Btw just saying I'm nowhere doing ronadhona about Pakistan being victim of terror. I see Pakistan as an occupier over Indian lands and people. So the people with Pak passports are victims, even if they root for this entity.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Rishi Verma » 17 Feb 2017 11:08

Bharotshontan, this thread is for baki bashing. dead are dead, no need to call Sufis as like Sadhu's. The glee is not about the loss of life, but the utter glee is about another layer off of a fake and failing entity called bakistan which is disguising itself as a "nashun" - a land from which Hindus, Sikhs, and Christians have been ethnically cleansed. So whoever remains there and have been silent are paying for their silence. ... Errr what's the latest score?

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby g.sarkar » 17 Feb 2017 11:10

If you step on a snake, it rears up to bite. Only few people will forgive unconditionally every time. Remember the story of the Sadhu and the scorpion floating on the river? But Rajneeti does not work that way. Grief is reserved for our dead and our women who were raped and sold into sexual slavery.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Rohit_K » 17 Feb 2017 11:16

//off topic warning

bharotshontan wrote:Sorry for long rant. Just the other day I was listening to a qawwali from this Sehwan sharif. I like the tabla, I like the videos where they're showing masses of people with diyas doing aarti, the cooking of langar, the holy men looking exactly like sadhu babas. This blast seems to hit home for me. I'm not cynical enough to write this off as green on green, to me it seems an awful lot like green on saffron.


Here's a nice video with some stunning visuals (and goras singing):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SihdsEzawaU

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby bharotshontan » 17 Feb 2017 11:17

g.sarkar wrote:
Pathik wrote:Two nation theory saar. We cannot do away with Indian muslims. So only possible worthwhile propaganda is show them how islam is destroying their life and try to free them from it by assimilating them into our practices. Rahi Shitisthan ki baat...its a written off state. Whether arab beats them or they beat arab - good for us onlee

Indians in Arapland should give some pain balm to the Arap in case he hurt his arm during the beating.
Apropos the bombing, Shia and the Ahmedia were involved in supporting the partition. Why the grief for their suffering now?
Gautam


People and communities make different decisions based on their current outlook and knowledge of what they see. The other day I came across an article that showed that Kashmiri Pandits lobbied and authored article 370 to maintain privy positions in admin from Punjabis. Today they have that to thank for turning into a destitute Hindu minority in their home state. So many people appear to commit self goals in hindsight. Bengali Hindus began the grand five day festival we know as Durga Puja today to celebrate Clive's victory at Plassey, only to be by next generation to start losing entire crop of young men to taking on British empire. Even to this day, I wish I got to read a good analysis for where this Yadav+Muslim vote bank came about. Like what is going through the Yadav heads? What are their village mukhiyas and panchayats reading as their ground situation that makes them line up with communal anti Hindu forces?

Anyway, my belief is the goal of having a united Indian nation was to try and align the interests of all these various groups as much as possible on an external level in an increasingly globalizing world. It's best to forgive and forget that Shias or Sufis or Ahmediyas once got duped into being anti Hindu. Things can and are already realigning. We saw Ajmer Sharif Diwan making positive gestures towards Modi. That's because Bhartiya Islam is currently under existential threat from easy access to the real Islam (ISIS). These people will increasingly find refuge under the Hindu umbrella more and more.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Inder Sharma » 17 Feb 2017 11:40

Please let us not become Paki while bashing Pakis. The worshipers at Sehwan which has come under attack were Kaffirs for the pure greens. And Sehwan sharif’s worshipers are kaffirs because they ring bells and drums in that shrine, dance to songs, and distribute Theertha after prayer ceremony is over. Let us not glee at the death of people who are practically our own but on the wrong side of the right border.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby IndraD » 17 Feb 2017 12:09

Image
from Lahore police site: they are asking mosques to keep terror out.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Rohit_K » 17 Feb 2017 12:14

37 terrorists killed in security crackdown after Sehwan bombing
https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/18696 ... n-bombing#

KARACHI: Pakistan launched a nationwide security crackdown Friday, officials said, after a bomb ripped through a crowded Sufi shrine, killing 75 people including 20 children and wounding hundreds.

AT least 37 terrorists were killed in encounter with the law enforcement agencies. A statement from the Sindh Rangers said at least 18 terrorists had been killed in operations in Karachi overnight, while in separate security operations, six were killed in Orakzai; four in Bannu’s Bakka Khel; two killed in a police encounter in DI Khan; three shot dead in Peshawar during search operation and two were killed in Sargodha.

"Both the federal and provincial law enforcement authorities and police started a crackdown across the country before dawn, and scores of suspects have been arrested from different cities," a government official speaking on condition of anonymity told AFP.
He said the sweeping operation will continue for the coming days.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Gagan » 17 Feb 2017 12:33

Bharotshontan, tumi ki korlam!

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All BRPhilosophers who write long long posts itching to jump into the ring here...

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby arun » 17 Feb 2017 14:45

arun wrote:
arun wrote:Friday comes a day early.

Demonstration of the IED Mubarak variant of the IEDology of Pakistan.

“Sufi” Mohammadden Shrine of Lal Shahbaz Qalandar at Sehwan in the Terrorist Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan, suicide bombed.

I will not at all be surprised if this attack turns out to be a case of Green on Green Intra-Mohammadden belief motivated act of violence:

40 injured as suicide bomber hits Lal Shahbaz Qalandar’s shrine in Sehwan



Death toll in the Demonstration of the IED Mubarak variant of the IEDology of Pakistan at the “Sufi” Mohammadden Shrine of Lal Shahbaz Qalandar at Sehwan in the Terrorist Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan, climbs to 30.

While there is no indicator regards perpetrators, I will not at all be surprised if this attack turns out to be a case of Green on Green Intra-Mohammadden belief motivated act of violence:

At least 30 martyred in suicide bombing at Lal Shahbaz Qalandar shrine


Confirmation that the Demonstration of the IED Mubarak variant of the IEDology of Pakistan at the “Sufi” Mohammadden Shrine of Lal Shahbaz Qalandar at Sehwan in the Terrorist Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan is an act of Green on Green Intra-Mohammadden belief motivated violence:

arun wrote:Death toll in the Demonstration of the IED Mubarak variant of the IEDology of Pakistan at the “Sufi” Mohammadden Shrine of Lal Shahbaz Qalandar at Sehwan in the Terrorist Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan, vaults from 30 to 50.

At the rate at which the death toll is climbing, it might very well overtake the number of satellites ie: 104 launched by PSLV C-37. In any event if the number of Houris aka Hoors aka Virgins aka Raisins that have been launched by the demonstration of the IED Mubarak variant of the IEDology of Pakistan are taken into reckoning, PSLV C-37’s achievements have been left benhind in the dirt:

More than 50 martyred in suicide bombing at Lal Shahbaz Qalandar shrine


Confirmation that the Demonstration of the IED Mubarak variant of the IEDology of Pakistan at the “Sufi” Mohammadden Shrine of Lal Shahbaz Qalandar at Sehwan in the Terrorist Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan is an act of Green on Green Intra-Mohammadden belief motivated violence with Mohammadden Terrorist group Islamic State taking ceredit even as the death toll climbs to the otherworldly Mohammadden number 72 and thus closer to the 104 satellites launched by PSLV C37:

Sehwan shrine bombing: Isis claims responsibility for suicide attack killing at least 72 at Sufi Muslim site

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby g.sarkar » 17 Feb 2017 15:54

Gagan wrote:Bharotshontan, tumi ki korlam!

Gaganji,
Muaf kijie, that is not correct Bengali.
Gautam


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