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Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Rohit_K » 06 Jan 2017 23:31

Lal Topi's dream is coming true. Pak is now a major force to be reckoned with

Pakistani wrestler defeats Israeli opponent in WWE
https://www.geo.tv/latest/126311-Pakist ... ent-in-WWE

PAKISTAN EMERGES VICTORIOUS AGAINST ISRAEL IN TOUGH WWE BATTLE
http://www.brecorder.com/sports/other-s ... attle.html

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Falijee » 06 Jan 2017 23:36

Friday Times Predicts That Raheel Sharif Wants His Right Bxll ( ISPR Bajwa ) With Him In Saudi !

Raheel Challa Saudia :eek: ?

How tweet!

So, there it is. The Islamic Military Alliance to Fight Terrorism (IMAFT) is up and running, founded by HRH Mohammad bin Salman Al-Saud, of which General Raheel Sharif is Commander-in-Chief. Given that “terrorism” itself was “founded” in large measure by the policies of the same state, with some in the corresponding Pakistani state their eager facilitators, it’s ironical that both parties should now be in the fight against the same phenomenon together. So, with General Sharif off on his new mission, and at a hefty salary, might we suggest that he take his Tweet Maestro with him? After all, he was in the habit, not too long ago, of making all his policy announcements via the Maestro’s tweets.

So, it is "almost confirmed" that Raheel has sold his soul to the Saudis !

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Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Peregrine » 07 Jan 2017 00:37

Regret there is no "Wishful Thinking" Thread otherwise would have X Posted this Article on it.

Will Karachi drown under the sea?

While recurrent floods and droughts have wreaked havoc across different provinces of the country over the past few years, global warming temperatures accompanied by rising sea levels pose a particular threat to Karachi — our largest city by the sea. This past year, evidence from various national and international sources, has cautioned that the biggest threat facing Pakistan is not terrorism but climate change instead.

One major impact of unchecked climate change is the potential havoc it can unleash on Karachi. With a population of approximately 17 million people, Karachi is not only our largest city, but also the economic hub for the country. It accounts for over 40 per cent of the nation’s GDP, and contributes around half of the country’s entire tax revenues. Therefore, environmental destruction of it would be a shock that Pakistan may understandably not be able to recover from.

Besides witnessing changing precipitation levels, and record high heatwaves in recent years, the looming threat to Karachi is the rising sea levels due to global warming. Karachi is located next to the Indus River Delta, where the Indus flows into the Arabian Sea. This delta is now almost at the same level as the Arabian Sea, which is causing seawater intrusion and creating havoc to the complex ecosystem of mangroves in the region. Mangrove forest cover has decreased from 400,000 hectares around the time of independence to 70,000 hectares due to not only rising sea levels, but also due to land grabbing and ill-planned development schemes. Development of the Port Qasim Power Project along the coastline of the Arabian Sea, is one such example.

Changes in the Indus delta’s ecosystem, caused both by man-made developments and climate change, have already displaced millions of Pakistanis who once lived in this region. Mangrove deforestation is particularly alarming since it plays a vital role in preventing erosion and buffering against natural calamities like cyclones and tsunamis.

While Karachi did experience a devastating tsunami back in the mid-1940s, a similar natural disaster would now be much more devastating. The UN recently conducted simulations based on a hypothetical 9.0 magnitude quake in the Indian Ocean, where the Arabian and Eurasian tectonic plates meet off the coast of Pakistan. This simulation event in turn triggered a catastrophic tsunami that could reach Karachi within one and a half hours, and be powerful enough to destroy the entire city. No early warning system could effectively evacuate the massive city, if such a natural calamity were to suddenly strike.

Moreover, the threat of rising sea levels exacerbated by climate change continues to loom over the city. Some parts of Karachi’s Malir are apparently going under water. With the current rate of climate change and the accompanying sea level rise, Karachi has an estimated 35 to 45 years before it completely submerges into the Arabian Sea, according to recent research by our National Institute of Oceanography. If Only! Image

Despite a range of pressing problems plaguing the country, Pakistan thus has little choice but to patronise its response to climate change in order to mitigate major environmental threats, such as that facing Karachi. Yet, compared to the annual defence budget, our government allocates a meagre proportion of funds to combat climate change, despite the potential seriousness of the threat, and the demonstrated damage already wreaked on our country due to climate-related disasters. Besides greater financial and political resolve to tackle climate change, Pakistan also needs greater assistance from specialised international agencies to help design and effectively implement comprehensive mitigation programmes, to avert unprecedented levels of hardship and catastrophe, which would be unleashed, if a city like Karachi were to be lost to the sea in the coming decades. Once a Cwapistani Always a Bhookha Nanga!
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Rishi Verma » 07 Jan 2017 01:33

Florida airport shooting five dead, dozens wounded. Pakistani link is inevitable but sooner it comes out the better.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby sudeepj » 07 Jan 2017 01:41



Sumit Ganguly, great speech diagnosing the Pakistan problem. Calls out even Hussain Haqqani for being selective.

One central point he makes is that the Paki state is structurally designed to be in perpetual conflict with India because the Paki Army would be 'cut to size' if it were not for the conflict.

I think, this is wrong and we must also look at the centrality of the Islamic Supremacist mindset to the entire endeavor of the Pakistani state. Simply put, without Islamic Supremacism, Pakistan would not exist, and without Islamic Supremacism, Pakistan would simply be a second rate Punjab, just as Bangladesh is a second rate Bengal. These irrational views need to be given some attention to. For some reason, western scholars look at this conflict like it is some Hutu-Tutsi tribal thing over acquisition of resources in Africa rather than the ideology that has sustained this conflict over decades now.

On the other hand, if he *is* right, one long term strategy to deal with Pakistan may be to initiate conflict between the Sunni Paki affaj and Iran, while supporting both sides. This will give Pakistani fauj another target to 'work' while maintaining its importance in Pak affairs. One day, hopefully, the AMCA will fly in the puke green roundels of PAF.. defending (the real) Punjab from the Islamic hordes farther to the west. :-P

Added Later: I think he does an excellent job in ruling out what the Pakistan problem is not.. Its not existential, its not about the water, its not about 'security seeking' behavior..

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Peregrine » 07 Jan 2017 04:00

Rishi Verma wrote:Florida airport shooting five dead, dozens wounded. Pakistani link is inevitable but sooner it comes out the better.

Rishi Verma Ji :

Pictured: The Ford Lauderdale 'air rage' gunman who 'argued with passengers' on his flight before he retrieved his handgun from checked luggage and then executed five people in baggage claim

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby anupmisra » 07 Jan 2017 06:49

Apparently goat sacrifices do not work any more. or someone up there is not insha'ing.

PIA plane clips wing of stationary aircraft at Toronto Pearson airport

Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) flight PK-790 from Toronto to Lahore was suspended after the plane clipped the wing of an Air France plane while taxiing to its gate
Air France plane which was parked at a gate at Terminal 3
"Apparently it was due to some error during marshalling by the ground personnel,"


That's right. Blame the ground personnel. They deliberately guided the momeen flight to clip a stationary plane. Islamophobia, I say.

http://www.dawn.com/news/1306362/pia-pl ... on-airport

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Falijee » 07 Jan 2017 06:57

Shalimar Gardens, - A World Heritage Site In Lahore - In Danger Due To Orange Line Metro Transit Project :shock:

Unesco mission faces visa hurdles

LAHORE - The Government of Pakistan is allegedly ignoring the visa requests by Unesco for the members of its Reactive Monitoring Mission, which wants to visit sites of Orange Line Metro Train Project from 9th to 12th January.The Unesco has repeatedly urged the Punjab government to stop work on the Orange Line Metro Train project in the area of heritage site Shalimar Gardens.In a letter, copy of which is available with The Nation, the government was urged to facilitate the Unesco Mission that wants to investigate dangers posed to the world heritage site so that it may give its recommendations. Pakistan has a bad track record of ignoring international obligations ( UN resolution on Kashmir to withdraw troops , Simla Agreement to settle disputes bilaterally and now UNESCO visa request :mrgreen: )
The RMM members desire to visit Lahore in order to review the management and protection arrangements of the property, with a view to considering whether there is an ascertained or potential danger to the outstanding universal value of the property.Ms Junhi Han, the Programme Specialist of World Heritage Centre Asia and Pacific Unit of UNESCO, in an email reply, informed activist Kamil Khan Mumtaz that “… [The] Reactive Monitoring mission to Shalimar Gardens, requested by the 40th session of the World Heritage Committee, will be undertaken from 9 to 12 January 2017, pending confirmation from the Government of Pakistan.”
“If the Metro Line indeed poses no threat to listed heritage as the Punjab government claims, there is no reason why the government should not welcome the RMM in compliance with Pakistan’s international and legal commitments,” ICOMOS said in a statement.“RMM is part of the statutory reporting by the Secretariat and the advisory bodies to the World Heritage Committee. The costs of the Reactive Monitoring Missions are borne by the World Heritage Fund. There is no reason why this Mission should not be facilitated by the Government of Punjab.”.Visa refusal might be part of a negotiating ploy. Promises of additional funding from UNESCO for the World Heritage Site will surely open the doors for this delegation :mrgreen:

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby arun » 07 Jan 2017 09:52

X Posted from the “Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)” thread.

P.R. Chinese reaction to our demand that the PRC cease and desist from preventing the inclusion of Masood Azhar, the Mohammadden Terrorist sheltering in the Terrorist Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan, in the Terrorist list of put out by the UN's 1267 Committee:

Foreign Ministry Spokesperson GengShuang's Regular Press Conference on January 5, 2017 ……………………..

Q: Yesterday, two Indian Ministers of State for External Affairs held a press briefing on China-India relations. One talked about differences at the 1267 Committee with China, saying that as a responsible and mature country, China should not apply "double standards", and called on China to take a relook on its stance on the listing matter. Another minister spoke positively of China-India relations, saying that India should expand ties with China over a wide range of areas, especially people-to-people connections, despite the differences. What is your response?

A: The allegation that China adopts "double standards"on the UN Security Council 1267 Committee listing matter does not stand. Because China uses one standard only on this matter, which is taking solid evidence as the basis, and China has been participating in a positive and constructive way in the relevant discussions in the 1267 Committee following the spirit of objectivity, fairness and professionalism.

Members of the committee differ on the listing application submitted by the relevant country. China once put forward a technical hold so as to create more time and conditions for the committee to deliberate on the matter and the relevant parties to have further consultations. Regrettably, no agreement has been reached so far. The actions we have taken at the committee, out of a sense of responsibility, fully comply with the resolution of the Security Council and the rules of procedure of the committee, and will safeguard the authority and effectiveness of the committee on the listing matter.

China will stay in touch and coordination with relevant parties including India on this issue in accordance with the resolution of the Security Council and the rules of procedure of the committee.

I also want to add that China and India both suffer from terrorism. We share the same counter-terrorism goals and have been working together in this field. We are willing to enhance our cooperation with India on fighting terrorism and jointly maintain regional peace and security.

As for China-India relations, China and India are two largest developing countries and major emerging economies. Forging a more closely-knit partnership serves the interests of the two countries and peoples as well as regional peace and stability. We stand ready to improve our strategic partnership for cooperation with India. This position has not changed.

Follow-up: they also said that 14 out of the 15 members of the 1267 Committee support India's listing application, China being the only exception. What is your comment?

A: As I just said, the committee has yet to agree upon this issue. China's actions, which are objective, unbiased and professional, are in line with the resolution of the Security Council and the rules of procedure of the committee. China will stay in touch and coordination with relevant parties including India on that.


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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby svenkat » 07 Jan 2017 10:48

http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-spooks-of-pakistan-1483660934

Unsurprisingly, not all were disavowed, most conspicuously Osama bin Laden. How could bin Laden’s “secret” compound in Abbottabad (the site of an ISI station) have gone undetected? Was the ISI deceitful or incompetent? The author concludes the first, dismissing the idea that bin Laden was untraceable as “pure myth.” Based on Mr. Kiessling’s 13-year stint in Pakistan, if even the humblest shepherd “chanced upon foreigners . . . the news would find its way up to the village elders from there to [an ISI] agent.”


Notable episodes from the ISI’s past have been covered recently elsewhere. Lawrence Wright’s “The Looming Tower” (2006) charted the “road” to 9/11, paved by the CIA and the ISI; Zahid Hussain’s “Frontline Pakistan” (2006) considered the ISI’s fraught position in the war on terror; Shuja Nawaz’s “Crossed Swords” (2008) illumined Pakistan’s military, the ISI’s senior partner; and Gary Bass’s “The Blood Telegram” (2013) examined the genocide in East Pakistan following the 1970 election crisis. In each, however, the ISI is seen out of focus or relegated to the sidelines. Mr. Kiessling, whose style, befitting his subject, is lean and restrained, fills this void nicely.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby arun » 07 Jan 2017 12:22

anupmisra wrote:Apparently goat sacrifices do not work any more. or someone up there is not insha'ing.

PIA plane clips wing of stationary aircraft at Toronto Pearson airport

Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) flight PK-790 from Toronto to Lahore was suspended after the plane clipped the wing of an Air France plane while taxiing to its gate
Air France plane which was parked at a gate at Terminal 3
"Apparently it was due to some error during marshalling by the ground personnel,"


That's right. Blame the ground personnel. They deliberately guided the momeen flight to clip a stationary plane. Islamophobia, I say.

http://www.dawn.com/news/1306362/pia-pl ... on-airport



:wink: Non-Human Aircraft version of the demonstration of the IED Mubarak variant of the IEDology of Pakistan aka suicide martyrdom operation by an aircraft :lol: .

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby SSridhar » 07 Jan 2017 12:50


From the above,
Mr. Kiessling draws his title from the father of Pakistan, Mohammad Ali Jinnah, whose celebrated exhortation today serves as Pakistan’s national motto.

That was *NOT* the slogan Jinnah gave to Pakistan. It was "Unity, Faith & Discipline", which itself was a charade. It was changed by Zia to "Faith, Unity & Discipline". Of course, the Pakistani Army has a different slogan, "Iman-Taqwa-Jihad fi sabilillah". That should have been the only appropriate title of the book that deals with the 'organ' of the army, the ISI.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby arun » 07 Jan 2017 12:52

Daniel Markey in Foreign Policy says “If the upcoming administration is intent on applying the madman theory of international relations, Pakistan might be a good place to start.” :

Pakistan Needs a Dose of Trump’s Madman Diplomacy

Pakistan is at best a sometimes-ally when it comes to counterterrorism.

At worst, Pakistan is an enemy, a state sponsor of terrorism in all but name, a host to anti-Afghan, anti-Indian jihadi militants with American blood on their hands. It is widely accepted in U.S. policy circles that Pakistan’s military and intelligence services prefer to maintain friendly ties with some terrorists for two reasons. First, they are useful proxies to destabilize Pakistan’s neighbors, and second, they would also be deadly adversaries if confronted head-on.


Trump may be uniquely well positioned to deliver a credible ultimatum to Pakistan: “Begin a full-scale, verifiable, and rapid offensive against all terrorist groups on Pakistani soil, or else.” Trump’s madman qualities would make the “or else” more frightening than just about anything a Clinton (or Obama) administration could have dreamed up, as his threat need not even be thoroughly specified in order to have the desired effect. Everything, from punitive military action to public shaming, sanctions, and an outright anti-Pakistani alliance with India, could be on the table, even if such actions would affect U.S. interests.


Even more challenging, Trump would have to be able to play the madman without actually proving himself irresponsibly reckless. Whatever happens, Pakistan will remain a nuclear-armed state of 200 million people with increasingly close ties to China. Although there is little doubt that past and current U.S. policies with Pakistan have failed to deliver satisfaction on core U.S. concerns, a truly mad approach could produce far worse failures. This is why recent administrations have swallowed back the bile from Pakistan’s double-dealing.

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Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Peregrine » 07 Jan 2017 15:55

A B C : at Sydney : Australia – Bakistan – Crushing by 220 Runs

I C C Test Rankings :

Bakistan edge out India and rise to No. 1 in Test rankings for the first time in 69 Years on 22 August 2016 – For 41 Days

India reclaim top Test ranking on 03 October 2016

Points after the Australia Bakistan Crushing :

India – First – 120 Points

Bakistan – Fifth – 97 Points

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Falijee » 07 Jan 2017 18:39

Raheel Gets the Job !

Raheel Sharif appointed chief of Islamic military alliance, confirms Khawaja Asif

Congratulatory messages will surely pour in , from his "many admirers", if the Future Field Marshal :D himself confirms that,( for the sake of money ), he has "accepted the job offer" !

The coalition was envisaged to serve as a platform for security cooperation, including provision of training, equipment and troops, and involvement of religious scholars for dealing with extremism.The Saudi government had surprised many countries by announcing that it had forged a coalition for coordinating and supporting military operations against terrorism in Iraq, Syria, Libya, Egypt and Afghanistan.Iran, Saudi Arabia's archrival for influence in the Arab world, was absent from the states named as participants, as proxy conflicts between the two regional powers rage from Syria to Yemen. :((
All fancy words to pull the wool over Paki Aam Abduls. His appointment has nothing to do with fighting extremism etc etc . His sole job would be to salvage S.A. from the Yemen mess that it got itself in. Sunni- Shia rivalry will still continue !

PS: If "Bad Sharif" has accepted the job, as per above, I am pretty sure that the "Good Sharif" must have put in a few good words or so, on his behalf to the Saudi king :D

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby SSridhar » 07 Jan 2017 19:45

Falijee wrote:PS: If "Bad Sharif" has accepted the job, as per above, I am pretty sure that the "Good Sharif" must have put in a few good words or so, on his behalf to the Saudi king

He could have done that just to get rid of Raheel. The Saudis too want some better professional guy very badly than what they have on hand now in order to somehow conclude the disastrous Yemeni operation.

What I am amazed at is how has Pakistan prevented a blowback from Iran over this matter? Raheel is just not a private person and could not have assumed the new role without the concurrence from GoP. Of course, that is only nominal. Which GoP can stop a General from doing whatever he wants to do in Pakistan? Yet, Iran should consider this as an affront.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby hnair » 07 Jan 2017 20:00

This is not good. Bad Sharief, as is the wont of a paki jernail, will gradually swing this alliance's vast funds towards afghanistan and later, kashmir operations. There has to be a quid pro quo.

Plus if he can make the Gelf feudals parrot "an attack on bakis is an attack on us" kind of rhetoric, we will have a bious-Munna situation

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby CRamS » 07 Jan 2017 20:59

arun wrote:Daniel Markey in Foreign Policy says “If the upcoming administration is intent on applying the madman theory of international relations, Pakistan might be a good place to start.” :



Wow, pretty hard hitting article. But I have one major qualm in that the Pavlovain equal equal instinct never escapes the gora mind. When it comes to terror, there should be no ifs and buts, but this Markey dude throws in India as an inducment to TSP:


suffer the strategic consequences of seeing the United States align with India.

outright anti-Pakistani alliance with India



So by dangling the India card, US would like TSP to moderate its behavior visa vi US. This is the dead give away. For us on BR, we know TSP very well. TSP will give in to US demands when its India-specific concerns are met by US. Thats the key from TSP's PoV. And as we have seen for 70+ years, a combination of US geo-political interests, Hindu phobia among whites at large, TSP's own PR offensive, Indian traitors etc have ensure that equal equal prevails, and so TSP can continue to dance and just give enough here or enough there to keep this balance. If US were really serious about terror, there should be no India factor, just demand TSP that every terrorist group from the "mighty" Al Queda that US is obsessed with to LeT, to Jaish, to Haqqani must be eliminated. But then again as we all know if TSP does all that, there is no TSP left. And therein lies US dilemma, without TSP, how to balance those smelly, darky, rice eating, monkey/cow worshiping smarty "Hindoos"?

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Falijee » 07 Jan 2017 23:12

Pakistan's debt to GDP ratio reaches all-time high
ISLAMABAD (Daily Dunya) - Despite tall claims of breaking ‘beggar’s bowl’, Pakistan’s loan volume has soared to all-time high of mammoth Rs23, 389 billion during Nawaz Sharif regime.Notes worth Rs1.20 billion were printed per day during tenure of current government, quoted State Bank of Pakistan (SBP).Nawaz’s government borrowed Rs35, 00 billion in last one and a half year and an overall of Rs9, 000 billion in almost four years.At the end of Pakistan Peoples Party’s (PPP) reign, total volume of loan was Rs14, 318 billion out of which Rs9, 522 billion was internal and Rs4, 800 billion was external.Total volume of loan in 1971 was merely Rs30 billion which surged to Rs2, 946 billion in 1999 and further piled up to Rs6, 126 in 2008.It may be recalled that debt to GDP ratio cannot exceed 60 percent mark but currently it is fluctuating at an alarming 69.8 percent which stands against parameters set in 2005.
So, govt guidelines, set earlier, were "thrown out of the (Paki) window :lol:

- The architect of this "brilliant strategy" is none other than the N. S. Finance Minister, Personal Financial Advisor ( and close relative !) Ishaq Dar.
- In view of the more CPEC projects coming on-stream ( with Chinese loan money ), there is good prospects of even a higher debt/GDP ratio. :twisted:

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Falijee » 07 Jan 2017 23:39

Now Gone Missing! Mystery Deepens Concerning The Whereabouts Of The Ten Year Old Domestic Servant Girl Allegedly Tortured By Her Employer -A Pakistan Judge.

Islamabad police reached Faisalabad city in search of Tayyaba, where they interrogated a woman named Nadra who had given Tayyaba to the judge's family in Islamabad.According to the neighbours, police detained Nadra's son Anwar. Intelligence agencies have already interrogated Tayyaba's family and people in the neighbourhood. Tayyaba has mysteriously disappeared along with her father after an out-of-court settlement took place between the two families. ( Sharia justice in action - or "money" used to silence the "mouth" :mrgreen: )
The case of the alleged torture of the child maid caught the media’s attention( it even got attention in the foreign press !) after she was recovered from the residence of Additional Sessions Judge Raja Khurram Ali Khan.
Six human rights activists from Karachi, Lahore, Islamabad and Peshawar moved a joint constitutional petition in the Supreme Court on Thursday requesting it to take disciplinary action against Additional Sessions Judge Islamabad Raja Khurram who violated the law by employing a minor Tayyaba and torturing her.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Rishi Verma » 07 Jan 2017 23:47

Jihadi Saudis appointing Jihadi Rawheel means pakis must be secretly helping Saudis in their war with Yemen despite officially declining to do so.... This is the reward for sacrificing a few thousand baki Abduls in the name of protecting the meteorite.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Falijee » 08 Jan 2017 02:42

Rishi Verma wrote:Jihadi Saudis appointing Jihadi Rawheel means pakis must be secretly helping Saudis in their war with Yemen despite officially declining to do so.... This is the reward for sacrificing a few thousand baki Abduls in the name of protecting the meteorite.


Rishi-Verma-ji :


As it turns out, that Raheel too (like all the previous COAS) has sacrificed his Enchendee for the sake of Saudi Moolahs : please see below :

cyril almeida on TWITTER
Rem when folk said Nawaz was desperate to oblige the Saudis over troops to Yemen and Raheel blocked it? :mrgreen:

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Falijee » 08 Jan 2017 03:02

Baloch Human Rights Organization Publishes A Complete List Of 2016 Missing Persons Totaling 961 With Address And Date Of Abduction

Pakistan and UAE are no longer members of the UN Human Rights Council w.e.f . Jan 1, 2016; but they have been replaced by China and Saudi Arabia ! So, I do not think that the Balochis are likely to see any action on this in the near future, at least from this so-called " UN Human Rights Council" :twisted:

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Postby Peregrine » 08 Jan 2017 04:53

Fully Posted on the PESW Thread

Ginners fear Indian cotton imports will imperil Pakistan’s economy
MULTAN: The cotton ginning industry has fiercely opposed duty-free import of Indian cotton, saying it will have destructive effects on Pakistan’s economy.
Speaking at a press conference on Friday, Pakistan Cotton Ginners Association (PCGA) Senior Vice Chairman Suhail Mehmood Haral, Ginners Group Chairman Haji Muhammad Akram and former PCGA chairman Shehzad Ali Khan revealed that more than 2 million bales of cotton were lying unsold in ginning factories, which textile millers were reluctant to purchase.
Another 700,000 bales are expected next month. They saw no justification for lifting an undeclared ban on cotton import from India at the cost of Pakistan’s farmers, arguing fibre import via land or sea was not in the interest of national economy.
Ginners Group Chairman Haji Muhammad Akram asked the government to slap a complete ban on cotton imports from India via Wagah border.
He was of the view that the production cost was higher than the prices farmers were receiving for their harvest. The high cost was one of the reasons behind the decline in cotton production, he added.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby SSridhar » 08 Jan 2017 08:36

^ svenkat, thanks for posting that blog. He has echoed the same that some of us had expressed here before many times.

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Postby shiv » 08 Jan 2017 08:39


What I don't understand is how, when and by whom Fair was made an "India expert". She never was and never will be an India expert and it may be Indian admiration for a gori who speaks erdoo that made people (maybe the media) also hang on to her words about India until they realised that she was talking shit. Fair's biggest contribution is her expose of the Shitistan army

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby CRamS » 08 Jan 2017 09:06



With all due respect to Rajeev Srinivasan, thats a cart load of horse manure. First of all, we give way too much importance to Fair didi. But having said that, Fair didi has been the one US analyst who tells it like it is on TSP. Nothing that we on BR don't know, or many in India don't know, but as a white woman she has more credibility and gets more respect in India than SDREs. And regarding Indian military response to TSP provocations, she has no agenda like other US "experts" who want to preserve equal equal. She of course is realistic about Indian military capabilities to punish TSP, and I see nothing wrong with that. Of course, sometimes she does talk in a mocking tone like after Patankot, she was very acerbic in saying TSPA has called ModiJi's bluff.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby GShankar » 08 Jan 2017 09:27

^^why defend anybody, especially (un)fairD? Let her be called out and let her defend. Everyone in the line of business that unfairD is on, earn credibility to cash in. And when they do, invariably we will be at the receiving end. That was the case for every other character that rajeev mentioned in his post.

In her case, let her pass the test.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby arun » 08 Jan 2017 10:19

anupmisra wrote:How did you miss this earth shattering event?

Dossier on Indian terrorism in Pakistan handed over to UN

Pakistan’s Permanent Representative to the United Nations, Ambassador Maleeha Lodhi Friday delivered a dossier on India’s interference and terrorism in Pakistan to the UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres along with a letter from Adviser to the Prime Minister on Foreign Affairs Sartaj Aziz.
The dossier contains additional information and proof of Indian RAW interference in Pakistan and involvement in terrorism particularly in Balochistan, FATA and Karachi.
This is a follow up to the three dossiers which were shared with the United Nations in October 2015


https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/17723 ... over-to-UN


Meanwhile at the UN :

6 January 2017
Daily Press Briefing by the Office of the Spokesperson for the Secretary-General

The following is a near-verbatim transcript of today’s noon briefing by Stéphane Dujarric, Spokesman for the Secretary-General. …………………………

Question: Thank you. Stéphane, does… the Secretary‑General reported meeting with the Pakistani Ambassador today in which she reportedly presented a dossier on… I mean, about the Indian interference in Pakistan's internal affairs. Are you aware what did they say…

Spokesman: No, I think what the Secretary‑General said he was about to meet her. I think he met her sometime after 12. I don't have any indication of what was discussed in the meeting. The meeting was held at the request of the Permanent Representative of Pakistan.

Question: But there are no… nothing… I mean, since then, he has met with her, and… but you don't have any readout…

Spokesman: I… I walked in here, I think, as the meeting was still going on so… and my earpiece is not working. Go ahead.

Correspondent: Okay. ………………………..

Spokesman: Masood?

Question: This is a question about… again, about India and Pakistan and Kashmir. The Secretary‑General obviously is aware that the border of India and Pakistan has been a hotbed of, I mean, confrontation between the two armies. Will the Sec… the new Secretary‑General talk to the Indian authorities, the Indian Prime Minister, about these facts… about the United Nations…

Spokesman: You know, I don't have anything new to add to our well‑worn and well‑stated policy, but if anything changes, I will let you know.


From Here : UN Daily Press Briefing

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby chetak » 08 Jan 2017 10:45

GShankar wrote:^^why defend anybody, especially (un)fairD? Let her be called out and let her defend. Everyone in the line of business that unfairD is on, earn credibility to cash in. And when they do, invariably we will be at the receiving end. That was the case for every other character that rajeev mentioned in his post.

In her case, let her pass the test.


it's also telling that her tweets (@CChristineFair) have gone into protected mode.

just like patriotism, protected mode tweets also seem to be the last resort of the scoundrel. :)

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Bart S » 08 Jan 2017 11:16

hnair wrote:This is not good. Bad Sharief, as is the wont of a paki jernail, will gradually swing this alliance's vast funds towards afghanistan and later, kashmir operations. There has to be a quid pro quo.

Plus if he can make the Gelf feudals parrot "an attack on bakis is an attack on us" kind of rhetoric, we will have a bious-Munna situation


There is a definite risk to India. However there are equally good chances (given the recent good relationship between India and UAE/Saudi royals that has become quite differentiated from their master-slave kind of relationship with Pakis), that they will make sure he knows his aukaat and tell him to just focus on what he is being paid to do.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Bheeshma » 08 Jan 2017 11:30

India should make sure Iran and Houtis have enough to tackle this alliance and ensure an islamic civil war in the middle east for a few decades. Nothing better than these piglets keeping themselves busy killing each other.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby SSridhar » 08 Jan 2017 11:44

Pakistan claims, UN chief agrees to play role of honest broker: Maleeha - DT
Pakistan's Permanent Representative to the United Nations, Maleeha Lodhi said that the new United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres has agreed to play the role of an "honest broker" to deescalate tensions between India and Pakistan.{Oh. okay. So, Pakistan went squealing to the new Secretary-General at the first opportunity expecting the first-mover's advantage because the Indian actions have been painful and nobody else is listening to its complaints!!}

After her meeting with the UN secretary-general, she said that Pakistan welcomed the decision. The UN secretary-general appreciated Pakistan's war against on terrorism and the country's role in peace missions, she said, adding that Pakistan was one of the three biggest contributors to the UN in its peace missions.

Pakistan on Friday handed over a dossier - carrying evidence of Indian subversive activities within its territory - to Antonio Guterres, according to the Foreign Office.

A spokesman for the Foreign Office said the dossier was handed over to the UN head, along with a letter by Adviser on Foreign Affairs, Sartaj Aziz.

The dossier contained confessional statement of Kulbhushan Yadav - an on-duty Indian navy officer working for RAW who was caught from Balochistan last year - related documents and evidence of Indian interference in Balochistan.

The video evidence of an Indian navy submarine sneaking into Pakistani waters on November 18, 2016 was also made part of the dossier. The dossier also included information that proved links between terrorists and Indian intelligence officials - working under diplomatic cover at the Indian High Commission in Islamabad.

Pakistan, in the said dossier, urged the United Nations to stop India from continuing its efforts to destabilise Pakistan. India has a history of fanning terrorism in Pakistan, by sponsoring terrorist outfits in Balochistan, FATA and Karachi.

Kulbhushan Yadav, a RAW operative and an on-duty Indian navy officer, was arrested by Pakistani intelligence agencies from Balochistan in March 2016.

During preliminary investigations, the undercover Indian agent had revealed that his main agenda was to sabotage the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) through propaganda and to create disharmony among Baloch nationalist political parties. On November 18, 2016, the Pakistan Navy checked an Indian submarine sneaking into Pakistan's territorial waters, apparently spying on the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor. {The current flavour of the seeason for Pakistan is 'CPEC'}

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby wig » 08 Jan 2017 12:49

http://www.thehindu.com/news/internatio ... 004022.ece

Pakistan military courts go from today
They were set up through a statute amendment after the macabre December 16, 2014 Peshawar school attack.

Pakistan will wind up its special military courts from Saturday, two years after they were set up for speedy trial of hardcore militants following the deadly Taliban attack on an army school in Peshawar that killed nearly 150 children.

The courts were established through an amendment in the Constitution after the horrendous attack in Peshawar on December 16, 2014. The move generated heated debate as the courts were billed by rights activists as violation of basic human rights as enshrined in the Constitution of the country and international charters.

However, they were allowed to function after the Supreme Court upheld as valid the 21st constitutional amendment and the Pakistan Army (Amendment) Bill, 2015, enacted by Parliament in 2015.

Through the ‘sunset clause’

The amendment ensured that the courts will end after two years through insertion of the “sunset clause.”

There was no formal statement either from the government or the military announcing the end of the extraordinary powers for trial of civilians by the military, as they are deemed to end after a fixed time period of two years.

The first convictions under the military court were in April 2015 and the last ones were pronounced on December 28, 2016.

The courts were given 275 cases during two-year period and they sentenced 161 terrorists to death, whereas another 116 were given varying jail terms, mostly life sentences.
Only 12 convicts have been executed so far, according to the army. The trials resulted in convictions, imprisonment of and death sentences against terrorists belonging to the al-Qaeda, the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan, Jamaatul Ahrar, Toheedwal Jihad Group, Jaish-e-Muhammad, Harkat-ul-Jehad-e-Islami, Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, Lashkar-e-Jhangvi al-Alami, Lashkar-e-Islami, and Sipah-e-Sahaba.

The perpetrators of the Peshawar school attack were among the militants hanged after conviction in the military courts.

Over to anti-terror courts

The terrorism cases, which were sent to military courts from now onward will be heard in the anti-terrorism courts already functional in the country.

The special court system ended after another anti-terror law known as Protection of Pakistan Act expired last year. It allowed for detention of militants for 90 days without permission of the courts.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby SSridhar » 08 Jan 2017 13:42

US built tactical operations centre in Pakistan: Kerry - DAWN
WASHINGTON: US Secretary of State John Kerry has said that Pakistan was among the key countries where the United States has constructed state-of-the-art tactical security operations centres.

In a 21-page exit memo, the outgoing top US diplomat also named Afghanistan and Iraq among the countries where the Obama administration has built such centres. The document does not say where these centres were built or who operated them and how.

The memo only says that “we have constructed state-of-the-art tactical security operations centres in key countries, such as Afghanistan, Iraq, and Pakistan.”

So, where are these centres and what are their capabilities? How do they impact India's security? Are they still operational? India must demand the dismantling of these centres in Pakistan.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby pankajs » 08 Jan 2017 15:54

arun wrote:Meanwhile at the UN :
{UN } Spokesman: You know, I don't have anything new to add to our well‑worn and well‑stated policy, but if anything changes, I will let you know.

From Here : UN Daily Press Briefing

Bhell ... as always this was an exercise in pandering to the local sentiment. The religious parties, studio jihadis and mango apduls have demanding *strong* action from Nawaz and they have already branded him *Mudi Nawaz*.

The studio jihadis have pinned their hope on the *Portuguese* UN chief to take his revenge on India for GOA. Bhell ... apdul birathers would be pleased to know that the PM of Portuguese is/was on an official vizit to India.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/opi ... 383080.cms
Portugal will always be a strong advocate of India in Europe: PM António Costa

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/ ... n-4463864/
India, Portugal sign six agreements, including defence cooperation

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Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Peregrine » 08 Jan 2017 18:22

Fully Posted on the PESW Thread

Pakistan´s once-booming textile industry struggles to bounce back
FAISALABAD: As Pakistan slowly emerges from a long-term power crisis, its once booming textile sector is scrambling to find its feet -- but high energy costs and a decade lost to competitors mean recovery is far from assured.
A third of the production capacity of the sector has disappeared, thousands of factories have closed, and most of the others are running below full capacity, says Rehan Bharara, a former loom owner who now runs a public infrastructure project for the textile industry.
Only those manufacturers which invested heavily in their own energy production survived.
"We loom workers only get paid if there is power and looms are running. If there is no power, there are no wages," said Mohammad Rizwan, a 21-year-old weaver.
Total exports, meanwhile, 60 percent of which are made up by textiles, declined by 13 percent in the first nine months of this year compared to last, a sign that the industry´s recovery is yet to begin.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Falijee » 08 Jan 2017 18:42

SSridhar wrote:US built tactical operations centre in Pakistan: Kerry - DAWN
So, where are these centres and what are their capabilities? How do they impact India's security? Are they still operational? India must demand the dismantling of these centres in Pakistan.


SS-Ji:

This is just a wild guess on my part, but I think, that the (lame duck) SOS Kerry, was making reference ("state of the art tactical security operations centre ) to:

- The fortified ( many layers of security ) and massive US Embassy Compound in Islamabad ( and maybe Karachi and Lahore on a smaller scale !), staffed with state-of-the - art communication ( read evesdropping ) equipment, bug free rooms, ) equipment, plus "experts" from the Culinary Institute Of America ! It may well be a self sufficient small city, within a big city ( Isloo) . It may also be staffed with US Marines . Similar situation exists in Baghdad ( Green zone ) and also Kabul . Also, the US Deep State does not want the Paki Aam Abduls storming the new Isloo fortress ( as happened in Zia times !) or as happened in Saigon in 1975 when the US had to leave South Vietnam " in a hurry" ! And when US staffers and many locals were helicoptered from compound roof tops to US warships stationed near the ocean onward to mainland Massaland !

PS: Sometime ago, I had read a Pakistani newspaper report, that the Paki authorities refused a US request to open a consulate in the strategic Balochistan capital of Quetta , for obvious reasons!

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Gerard » 08 Jan 2017 19:28

pankajs wrote:jihadis have pinned their hope on the *Portuguese* UN chief to take his revenge on India for GOA. Bhell ... apdul birathers would be pleased to know that the PM of Portuguese is/was on an official vizit to India.


The Portuguese PM is a PIO, the son of Orlando da Costa, a prize winning writer who spent his childhood in Goa. His cousin is making dinner for him.

‘Proud of my roots in Goa’: Portugal PM Antonio Costa’s Q&A with HT

I am deeply honoured to attend the Pravasi Bharatiya Divas as a Person of Indian Origin and my speech at that occasion will surely be framed by my roots in Goa, of which I am very proud. I am planning to use the opportunity of travelling to Goa to visit my relatives who still live in Margão, where my father had his house. And I am also very moved by the fact that I will witness the presentation, in Delhi and Goa, of the English translations of two of my father’s books.


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