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Understanding US thread-III

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Re: Understanding US thread-III

Postby ShyamSP » 10 May 2017 08:48

UlanBatori wrote:Hmmm! Attorney Jarnail Bibi, now Free Biscuit Jarnail. Next, Supreme Ct. Chief Justice? Comey seems to have been either an honest but painful bureaucrat manager who couldn't make any decision without pompous :((, or an all-round oiseule, bound to get fired no matter who came to power. I must say he made the FBI looks like idiots. All the competent investigating was being done by Putin and Assange. Wasn't it Reagan, or was it later, that all the attorneys in the Just-Is dept. were fired? There was a big hoopla about that, I remember. But the timing of the firing is extremely bad and looks very suspicious. Maybe the WHOTUS is just slow. First Pleet Bhalala, then Surgeon-Jarnail, now this - if u think about it he's just getting around slowly to appointing new flunkies in all these political-appointee posts.

But the headline says Comey's failure to nail HiC was cited in his goodbye letter.
FBI director's decision not to file charges over Clinton's email cited for his dismissal

{ACTUALLY IT IS NOT!!!! THAT IS AN OUTRIGHT CNN LIE!} If so he should have been fired Day 1. Now there is no way to avoid the fragrance of Caviar and Vodka.

Actual termination letter is pretty sharp, personal and nasty: nothing to do with 'transition'. :eek: :shock:

Culinary Institute Head Chef better retire for health reasons while he still can.


I thought timing is right. After the testimonies done it is right time for firings or resigns. Now they don't come out and change stories.

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Re: Understanding US thread-III

Postby saip » 10 May 2017 09:04

FBI director's decision not to file charges over Clinton's email cited for his dismissal

{ACTUALLY IT IS NOT!!!! THAT IS AN OUTRIGHT CNN LIE!}


Not quite. The Dy Attorney General's memo mentioned the Clinton emails and said Comey exceeded his brief. It said he usurped the powers of the AG.
It was one of the reasons.

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Re: Understanding US thread-III

Postby Dipanker » 10 May 2017 10:04

In Trump’s Firing of James Comey, Echoes of Watergate

WASHINGTON — In dramatically casting aside James B. Comey, President Trump fired the man who may have helped make him president — and the man who potentially most threatened the future of his presidency.

Not since Watergate has a president dismissed the person leading an investigation bearing on him, and Mr. Trump’s decision late Tuesday afternoon drew instant comparisons to the “Saturday Night Massacre” in October 1973, when President Richard M. Nixon ordered the firing of Archibald Cox, the special prosecutor looking into the so-called third-rate burglary that would eventually bring Nixon down.

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Postby Dipanker » 10 May 2017 10:08

Firing Fuels Calls for Independent Investigator, Even From Republicans

WASHINGTON — President Trump’s decision on Tuesday to fire the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, immediately fueled calls for an independent investigator or commission to look into Russia’s efforts to disrupt the election and any connections between Mr. Trump’s associates and the Russian government.

Calls to appoint an independent prosecutor have simmered for months, but until now, they had been voiced almost entirely by Democrats. Mr. Comey’s insistence that he was pressing ahead with the Russia investigation, and would go wherever the facts took him, had deflected those calls — especially because he was in such open defiance of a president who said the charges were “fake.”

Mr. Comey’s firing upended the politics of the investigation, and even Republicans were joining the call for independent inquiries.

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Re: Understanding US thread-III

Postby Yayavar » 10 May 2017 10:51



From the linked news report:

Sessions, appointed by Ronald Reagan, had been under investigation by the Justice Department's Office of Professional Responsibility during George H.W. Bush's final year in office.

Here's how The Times reported the findings at the time:

"The Justice Department report found, among other things, that Sessions had engaged in a sham transaction to avoid paying taxes on his use of an FBI limousine to take him to and from work, that he had billed the government for a security fence around his home that provided no security and that he had arranged business trips to places where he could meet with relatives."

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Re: Understanding US thread-III

Postby Lalmohan » 10 May 2017 14:47

so far flynn-baba was being moved into the prime-escape-goat position to draw all the flak (and he would have done the decent thing and taken the martyrdom option), but what with revelations that khush-baba was also present in those undisclosed meetings with kisneuskilakliya saab it was all getting a bit too close for comfort. comey had to go, i am sure he had anticipated this move for some time... certainly el naranjito had mused about it a few weeks ago...

looks like el naranjito just poured gasoline on the fire...

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Re: Understanding US thread-III

Postby UlanBatori » 10 May 2017 16:09

saip wrote:
FBI director's decision not to file charges over Clinton's email cited for his dismissal
{ACTUALLY IT IS NOT!!!! THAT IS AN OUTRIGHT CNN LIE!}

Not quite. The Dy Attorney General's memo mentioned the Clinton emails and said Comey exceeded his brief. It said he usurped the powers of the AG. It was one of the reasons.

In the Spicer Tradition we will pretend we never said that. :mrgreen:
OTOH, that is very interesting. So who was AG? The Vicious Bibi who is now going around :(( about DT kicking her ass out, hain? An out-and-out Clinton-bibi fan. No way she was going to go ahead with prosecution - but she wasn't going to say that either. Comey should have said:
Hopeless to conduct this investigation given that AG is partisan and incompetent

And resigned. He would have been NSA now and getting investigated himself.

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Re: Understanding US thread-III

Postby Gus » 10 May 2017 17:38

time to put out a 'press freedom report' and move massa down a peg or two

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... b8b04e6d81
CHARLESTON, W.Va. — Police say a West Virginia journalist was arrested after yelling questions at U.S. Health and Human Services Secretary Tom Price.

Price and senior white House aide Kellyanne Conway visited the state Capitol in Charleston on Tuesday to learn about efforts to fight opioid addiction in a state with the nation’s highest overdose death rate.

Capital police said in a criminal complaint 54-year-old Daniel Ralph Heyman was yelling questions at the two. It says he tried to breach Secret Service security and had to be removed from a hallway at the Capitol.

He was charged with willful disruption of governmental processes, a misdemeanor.

Heyman, who works for Public News Service, says he was arrested after he tried to ask whether domestic violence would be considered a pre-existing condition under the proposed health care overhaul.

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Re: Understanding US thread-III

Postby UlanBatori » 10 May 2017 19:19

Rod Rosenstein, Dep. AG is the "kutti-kurangan" in this.

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Re: Understanding US thread-III

Postby Dipanker » 10 May 2017 21:41

Days Before He Was Fired, Comey Asked for Money for Russia Investigation
WASHINGTON — Days before he was fired, James B. Comey, the former F.B.I. director, asked the Justice Department for a significant increase in money and personnel for the bureau’s investigation into Russia’s interference in the presidential election, according to three officials with knowledge of his request.

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Re: Understanding US thread-III

Postby saip » 10 May 2017 22:42

UlanBatori wrote:Rod Rosenstein, Dep. AG is the "kutti-kurangan" in this.


What does it mean in English?
The AG in my comments was not a person but the Office of the AG.

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Re: Understanding US thread-III

Postby Lalmohan » 11 May 2017 01:45

Comey would have arranged for leaks to come out in case of any untoward steps...
Already news of grand juries and sealed indictments are on the wind...

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Re: Understanding US thread-III

Postby UlanBatori » 11 May 2017 04:06

"Make the kuttikurangan scratch the rice". Old Malloostani saying for strategy to see if there is a trap buried in the rice. Chota Bandar.


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Re: Understanding US thread-III

Postby Philip » 11 May 2017 14:34

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/tru ... 28896.html
Donald Trump's firing of James Comey may not be a cover-up – but it is a complete political disaster
Sheer incompetence and schoolyard nastiness may better explain the botched dismissal

David Usborne New York
Trump greets the now former director of the FBI, James Comey, at the White House in happier times Reuters
Finished with the last meeting of the day in New York, Joe Crowley, the fourth most senior Democrat in the House of Representatives, was headed to an intimate fundraiser in a private home on the Upper West Side when the news, and his jaw, dropped: Trump fires Comey.

The guests had been promised an evening of song from the musically inclined Crowley, whose district encompasses large chunks of Queens and the Bronx. But first he felt the need to express his befuddlement about what had just occurred. “I can’t figure out what this White House is up to half the time,” he said. A voice at the back cried, “Half? You’re doing well then.”

Theories about the Comey dismissal – the reasons for it, the timing of it and the likely fallout – multiplied quickly enough to plug the hole in the ozone layer. Television pundits writhed in pain, their bloviatory bladders threatening to explode if they were not allowed to say Trump and Nixon in the same sentence. CNN became the “Cardiac Care Network because their ppl are having heart attacks over Trump,” former Governor Mike Huckabee quipped in a cheeky Tweet. (Never mind that his CNN is suddenly CCN.)

The only thing making sense to his critics was that Trump had become so fearful of the FBI’s investigation into possible collusion between his campaign last year and Russia that he, along with Attorney General Jeff Sessions, had concluded he had to sabotage it. Fire Comey! How brilliant is that? All you need to do next is find a poodle to run the FBI. Problem over.

Vladimir Putin responds to James Comey firing: 'We had nothing to do with it' :rotfl:
Pressed at the fundraising party, Crowley said he really didn’t know what had been in Trump’s head but quickly added that two words instantly came to his lips. They were “cover” and “up”. He added hastily that he had never considered himself prone to conspiracy theories.

Trump loyalists were plumbing, with varying amounts of desperation, for more innocent scenarios, including the White House claim that the President was displeased with the way Comey had handled the email allegations against Hillary Clinton last year and believed the FBI needed new leadership. But even in super-contorted Trumpworld this is not quite believable.

CNN now stands for Cardiac Care Network because their ppl are having heart attacks over Trump doing what Dems once demanded-fire Comey.
5:37 PM - 10 May 2017

Comey, by some accounts, did more than anyone to help Trump win the presidency, notably with his bombshell letter to Congress days before the vote revealing he was looking again at the Clinton case even after saying months before he was done with it. Each time Comey did something to hurt Clinton’s chances, Trump praised him. Now, suddenly, he feels sorry for Clinton and wants him punished?

The timing is weird too. Actually, it’s awful. Trump has returned the spotlight to the whole Russia-collusion fandango at the very moment when the early constipation of his administration was starting to ease, notably with the House getting over the hump with replacing Obamacare. As if to add a little icing, he does it the evening before a scheduled meeting with Russia’s foreign minister, Sergey Lavrov, in the Oval Office. Why, if not because there was a real reason to panic about what Comey and his team of investigators were getting close to finding?

This is what lies behind the screeching comparisons of what Trump wrought here with the Saturday Night Massacre when Nixon sacked the special prosecutor responsible for probing Watergate which triggered the resignations of the Attorney General and his deputy at the Justice Department. These are probably overblown for a number of reasons. Above all, we should not forget that, as yet, we have seen no evidence of coordination between the Trump campaign and Russia during the election. And while Nixon faced a Democrat-controlled Congress already convinced at the time he had done wrong, Trump has the backing of his party on the Hill.

Comey lost the confidence of almost everyone in Washington, Republican and Democrat alike. When things calm down, they will be thanking me!
4:57 PM - 10 May 2017

Mostly, he has their backing. But the other result of putting Comey in the ejection seat and pulling the lever is that demands for a more aggressive investigation into the alleged Trump-to-Kremlin axis have roared back to the fore just when they had been fading. For Democrats that means appointing a special prosecutor, an outcome that Trump surely cannot want. As yet no Republicans have called for that, but some, including Senator John McCain, are now arguing that it’s time for a special congressional committee to look into the issue.

If such an amped-up investigation were to begin and if it were to find that indeed crimes were committed last year that deformed the electoral process and impacted on the outcome of the election and that Trump, or people close to him, were involved both in those doings and in subsequently trying to cover them up, the consequences for this young presidency would be catastrophic. But notice the string of “ifs”. For now, at least, I prefer an explanation that derives from two other ingredients: stunning incompetence and sheer, base nastiness.

Why did Donald Trump fire James Comey?
Add to that a self-destructive love of drama. Trump forged a whole reality TV career priming ratings by firing people. He may be suffering from a lingering addiction to that simple act. Since becoming President he has fired one national security adviser as well as the former, and highly influential, attorney for the Southern District of New York, Preet Bharara (after telling him he was safe in the job). He fired Sally Yates, the acting Attorney General before Sessions was confirmed, and now he has fired an FBI chief who was in the midst of investigating possible malfeasance by his campaign last year – lest we forget, that last, rather salient, point – who also had been told he was safe in his job and would hold it for another six and a half years.

The incompetence barely needs commenting on. For all the reasons discussed, it is looking already like this will backfire on the President in all manner of ways. That there has been such a pounding backlash from all quarters, even from some Republicans, seems to have caught this White House by surprise. Comey, meanwhile, was given no prior warning and found out through news alerts on TV screens playing at the back of a room of his own agents he was addressing in Los Angeles at the time. FBI directors deserve a bit better than that, surely.

READ MORE
Mike Pence says Trump 'made the right decision' on Comey
Donald Trump meets Russian foreign secretary day after sacking Comey
Comey: Trump firing FBI director echoes of Watergate
That comes from the playground nastiness that fills this Oval Office. Possibly, someone told the President that Comey would be unprepared for what was coming and grinned. We do know the tenor of the Twitter spats he has engaged in in the hours since. He has lashed out at “cryin’ Chuck Schumer”, the top Senate Democrat leading the calls for a special prosecutor, and laid into Senator Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut, another leading figure in the special prosecutor camp, resurfacing old reports suggesting he once lied about his record in Vietnam. “When caught, he cried like a baby and begged for forgiveness,” Trump jabbed. Edifying stuff.

In time we’ll know if “cover-up” properly applies to the latest Washington doings. But what does, however the dust finally settles, is “cock-up”. Nobody wins from this and certainly not Trump.

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Re: Understanding US thread-III

Postby UlanBatori » 11 May 2017 16:37

The problem of these bozos is that Trump is not a pompous ass. An ass maybe, but not a pompous one. What if there is **NOTHING** to find in all this Russian Bear Under The Bed nonsense? There is at least a 50% chance that we will find that to be the case when all the yelling is done. Maybe Trump knows the truth, that there is nothing there, and acted to flush out the FBI top office and move on. Obama might have waited a year while the FBI remained incompetent and things festered. Now this thing about "while he was giving a speech". Oh! As opposed to while he was taking a shower? Making out in the hotel lobby? The President is supposed to wait on such things For the Appropriate Moment? Well... Trump does not.

Think about it. This is not some Socrates going around with his head in his clouds, unperturbed by the politics of mere mortals. The "I" in FBI stands for "INVESTIGATION" not "IGNORANCE".

FBI directors are supposed to FIND OUT and KNOW things. This fool didn't even have enough sources to whisper: "Sahib, u r history onlee" in his ear until after the news media had already told everyone. Probably it had already appeared on the Great Wall posters in Beijing. :rotfl:

Bottom line: Comey was a disaster. The final act proves it, if any proof was needed. He had no clue what was going on. At least Hoover inspired fear, Comey just inspired disgust. Good riddance. All the rest is speculation.

Think about this: If Comey really knows something, don't you think he can tell a Congressional committee in confidence? If HE can't tell anyone, then what sense is there in all the WhistleBlower Protections that US employers and govt blare out? If doesn't know anything, then all this house of cards about "ongoing investigation" comes crashing down - he turns out to be just a pompous ignorant ass.

BTW, exactly what are Comey's achievements as a prosecutor, and as FBI chief? The bugger couldn't even find enough "evidence" to indict high government officials who blatantly violated the well-known rules on protecting Classified Information, although said information was found in several foreign hands. Pleaded incompetence. Isn't that grounds enough to fire him?

Now for the closing line of the deep predictions above:
Nobody wins from this and certainly not Trump.

Where have we heard that b4?
1) Elections from 2015 until Nov. 9, 2016
2) Election Recounts demanded by (donkeys)
3) Obamacare vote-down.
...

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Re: Understanding US thread-III

Postby Dipanker » 11 May 2017 19:51

Vladimir Putin responds to James Comey firing: 'We had nothing to do with it' :rotfl:


Yeah, right! Like anybody is going to believe Putin!

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Re: Understanding US thread-III

Postby Gus » 11 May 2017 20:25

Putin's basically gloating..he probably ROFLs to sleep every night at the daily circus in massa

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Re: Understanding US thread-III

Postby Dipanker » 12 May 2017 03:47

If one looks up the meaning of the word pompous in a dictionary it is not hard to see that those calling Zee a pompous ass are not off the mark!

Here are some of the meaning of the word pompous:

self-important, imperious, overbearing, domineering, magisterial, pontifical, sententious, grandiose, affected, pretentious, puffed up, arrogant, vain, haughty, proud, conceited, egotistic, supercilious, condescending, patronizing;

Almost all definitions of pompous are applicable to him!

Regarding Zee campaign's collaboration with Russia, irrespective of the nature of it, the truth still needs to come out. Z's denial can not be taken seriously, as he has a habit of lying, upto 70% of the time as per Politifact, a site which does fact checking of politician statements.

One thing for sure, the time of firing was very suspicious, an uncanny reminder of Watergate!

Seems like the bells will eventually toll for Zee.

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Re: Understanding US thread-III

Postby UlanBatori » 12 May 2017 04:20

The great thing today is that to read anti-US-Govt propaganda, one need not learn Mandarin or Cyrillic. One just needs to type cnn.com
I mean, LOOK at the front page of the website for the past -what? 130 days? :(( :(( :(( :(( :(( :(( :(( :((

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Re: Understanding US thread-III

Postby Lalmohan » 12 May 2017 12:26

i thought lavrov's reaction on comey's firing was priceless

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Re: Understanding US thread-III

Postby Singha » 12 May 2017 12:49

after LGBT the new fetish has emerged.

NYT front pager today
Is an Open Marriage a Happier Marriage?
What the experiences of nonmonogamous couples can tell us about jealousy, love, desire and trust.
By SUSAN DOMINUS
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/11/maga ... v=top-news

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Re: Understanding US thread-III

Postby Philip » 12 May 2017 13:42

Applies to the US as well.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 30651.html

Western countries are not prepared for nuclear war, warns fallout expert
Exclusive: 'People understand better that this will come as a surprise. If you are not prepared in advance, you won't have a good response'

Samuel Osborne
It comes amid heightened tensions with North Korea and after both Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin indicated support for expanding their countries’ nuclear arsenals AFP/Getty
Western countries are ill-prepared for the aftermath of a nuclear war or catastrophic meltdown, an expert specialising in the impacts of fallout has warned.

It comes amid heightened tensions between the US and North Korea over the latter’s dogged pursuit of its nuclear and missile programmes, in defiance of UN sanctions and international pressure. Both Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin have indicated support for expanding their nuclear arsenals.

With the recent ramping up of rhetoric between world powers, governments owe it to their citizens to be prepared for potential nuclear incidents, Dr Arik Eisenkraft, director of homeland defence projects at Pluristem Therapeutics, told The Independent.

READ MORE
Risk of 'catastrophic' nuclear accident as relations worsen, UN warns
The heightened tensions since Mr Trump took office have “really highlighted the reality, how things are fragile, how things may change in a few days”, he said.

“People understand better that this will come as a surprise. If you are not prepared in advance, you won't have a good response. Once everyone is aware of the potential of this problem, you are already on the way to having a good solution.”

The world is still learning lessons from the Chernobyl nuclear disaster, he said. “Chernobyl opened our eyes. For the first time, people all over the world understood that a single incident might influence their own countries even if they are far away and regardless if they themselves use nuclear energy.”

The catastrophic accident at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant in Pripyat, Ukraine, killed at least 31 people, the majority from acute radiation syndrome, with potential long-term cancers still being investigated. "Everyone now understands the need to be prepared is shared by everyone," he said.

Donald Trump says a Russia-US conflict would be a nuclear holocaust 'like no other'
Dr Eisenkraft, who previously worked with the Ministry of Defence in Israel, said governments are also becoming more aware of the danger terrorist attacks could pose to a nation's nuclear infrastructure.

He praised the British Government for putting a high priority on nuclear preparedness, saying it understands the consequences of "either a natural disaster like in Fukushima" or "human error like in Chernobyl."

But he warned countries must do more to prepare for the chaotic aftermath of a nuclear accident or war. One of the major issues for governments, he said, is understanding exactly what other countries are doing in response to a disaster.

"If you don't know that and the event is chaotic in nature, you can add more chaos to it," he said, adding that governments must prepare themselves and train for different scenarios.

"I think people are not aware enough of how complicated this probably will be. Just look at Fukushima.

"Japan is a country which invests a lot in safety and security, and they still weren't prepared for such a catastrophe. And other countries are not prepared in the same extent."

One of the biggest dangers in the aftermath of a nuclear emergency is acute radiation sickness, when exposure to very high levels of radiation result in severe and potentially lethal damage to the body.

READ MORE
Kim Jong-un would launch a 'nuclear attack if his rule threatened'
Hanford nuclear site emergency: All you need to know
US tests nuclear-capable missile with the range to strike North Korea
Brexit risks 'severe ramifications' for nuclear industry, MPs warn
North Korea vows more nuclear tests to push force to 'the maximum'
These people only have 10 minutes warning before a nuclear attack

High doses of radiation can destroy the bone marrow's ability to produce white blood cells, which are essential to fighting infection, oxygen-carrying red blood cells and platelets, which help the body form clots to stop bleeding.

"Once people are suffering from acute radiation syndrome, they are in danger of life threatening infections, anaemia and uncontrolled bleeding," Dr Eisenkraft said.

He described current treatments for acute radiation sickness, which include blood transfusions and bone marrow transplants, as "very complicated, very expensive."

"Just imagine dozens, or hundreds, or even thousands of casualties. This will be very difficult to perform even in western countries. So there is a real need for something simple that would be simple to deploy and to use."


That is where his research on stem cells taken from the placenta after birth comes in.

His team at Pluristem have developed a medical countermeasure to treat acute radiation sickness which, once injected, can prevent anaemia, infection and a potentially fatal decrease in platelets.

Initial pilot studies have proven promising and Dr Arik said the treatment "may well be the next generation countermeasure against acute radiation syndrome."

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Re: Understanding US thread-III

Postby Philip » 12 May 2017 13:43

Applies to the US as well.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 30651.html

Western countries are not prepared for nuclear war, warns fallout expert
Exclusive: 'People understand better that this will come as a surprise. If you are not prepared in advance, you won't have a good response'

Samuel Osborne
It comes amid heightened tensions with North Korea and after both Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin indicated support for expanding their countries’ nuclear arsenals AFP/Getty
Western countries are ill-prepared for the aftermath of a nuclear war or catastrophic meltdown, an expert specialising in the impacts of fallout has warned.

It comes amid heightened tensions between the US and North Korea over the latter’s dogged pursuit of its nuclear and missile programmes, in defiance of UN sanctions and international pressure. Both Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin have indicated support for expanding their nuclear arsenals.

With the recent ramping up of rhetoric between world powers, governments owe it to their citizens to be prepared for potential nuclear incidents, Dr Arik Eisenkraft, director of homeland defence projects at Pluristem Therapeutics, told The Independent.

READ MORE
Risk of 'catastrophic' nuclear accident as relations worsen, UN warns
The heightened tensions since Mr Trump took office have “really highlighted the reality, how things are fragile, how things may change in a few days”, he said.

“People understand better that this will come as a surprise. If you are not prepared in advance, you won't have a good response. Once everyone is aware of the potential of this problem, you are already on the way to having a good solution.”

The world is still learning lessons from the Chernobyl nuclear disaster, he said. “Chernobyl opened our eyes. For the first time, people all over the world understood that a single incident might influence their own countries even if they are far away and regardless if they themselves use nuclear energy.”

The catastrophic accident at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant in Pripyat, Ukraine, killed at least 31 people, the majority from acute radiation syndrome, with potential long-term cancers still being investigated. "Everyone now understands the need to be prepared is shared by everyone," he said.

Donald Trump says a Russia-US conflict would be a nuclear holocaust 'like no other'
Dr Eisenkraft, who previously worked with the Ministry of Defence in Israel, said governments are also becoming more aware of the danger terrorist attacks could pose to a nation's nuclear infrastructure.

He praised the British Government for putting a high priority on nuclear preparedness, saying it understands the consequences of "either a natural disaster like in Fukushima" or "human error like in Chernobyl."

But he warned countries must do more to prepare for the chaotic aftermath of a nuclear accident or war. One of the major issues for governments, he said, is understanding exactly what other countries are doing in response to a disaster.

"If you don't know that and the event is chaotic in nature, you can add more chaos to it," he said, adding that governments must prepare themselves and train for different scenarios.

"I think people are not aware enough of how complicated this probably will be. Just look at Fukushima.

"Japan is a country which invests a lot in safety and security, and they still weren't prepared for such a catastrophe. And other countries are not prepared in the same extent."

One of the biggest dangers in the aftermath of a nuclear emergency is acute radiation sickness, when exposure to very high levels of radiation result in severe and potentially lethal damage to the body.

READ MORE
Kim Jong-un would launch a 'nuclear attack if his rule threatened'
Hanford nuclear site emergency: All you need to know
US tests nuclear-capable missile with the range to strike North Korea
Brexit risks 'severe ramifications' for nuclear industry, MPs warn
North Korea vows more nuclear tests to push force to 'the maximum'
These people only have 10 minutes warning before a nuclear attack

High doses of radiation can destroy the bone marrow's ability to produce white blood cells, which are essential to fighting infection, oxygen-carrying red blood cells and platelets, which help the body form clots to stop bleeding.

"Once people are suffering from acute radiation syndrome, they are in danger of life threatening infections, anaemia and uncontrolled bleeding," Dr Eisenkraft said.

He described current treatments for acute radiation sickness, which include blood transfusions and bone marrow transplants, as "very complicated, very expensive."

"Just imagine dozens, or hundreds, or even thousands of casualties. This will be very difficult to perform even in western countries. So there is a real need for something simple that would be simple to deploy and to use."


That is where his research on stem cells taken from the placenta after birth comes in.

His team at Pluristem have developed a medical countermeasure to treat acute radiation sickness which, once injected, can prevent anaemia, infection and a potentially fatal decrease in platelets.

Initial pilot studies have proven promising and Dr Arik said the treatment "may well be the next generation countermeasure against acute radiation syndrome."

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Postby sooraj » 12 May 2017 17:52

Russians Tricked Trump Once Again: The Daily Show :lol:


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Postby Gus » 12 May 2017 18:46

oh good..this is what's needed to fix the mess of 'war on drugs'

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/na ... 902fc361d8
Attorney General Jeff Sessions overturned the sweeping criminal charging policy of former attorney general Eric H. Holder Jr. and directed his federal prosecutors Thursday to charge defendants with the most serious, provable crimes carrying the most severe penalties.

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Postby Gus » 12 May 2017 18:49

“There will be circumstances in which good judgment would lead a prosecutor to conclude that a strict application of the above charging policy is not warranted,” the memo says. “In that case, prosecutors should carefully consider whether an exception may be justified.”

-- IOW, let some people (say X) off while prosecute to the fullest extent of some other people (say Y).

any guesses on who X and Y will be?

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Postby Gus » 12 May 2017 18:56

pack them private prisons..

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/na ... f7ae3a80c4
The Justice Department will once again use private prisons to house federal inmates, reversing an Obama-era directive to stop using the facilities, which officials had then deemed less safe and less effective than those run by the government.

In a one-paragraph memo, Attorney General Jeff Sessions rescinded the previous directive to the Bureau of Prisons to either reduce or decline to renew private-prison contracts as they came due.

“The memorandum changed long-standing policy and practice, and impaired the Bureau’s ability to meet the future needs of the federal correctional system,” Sessions wrote. “Therefore, I direct the Bureau to return to its previous approach.”


as payback for...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... /98300394/
Private prison companies, which stand to make big gains under President Trump’s tough new immigration orders, also have contributed big sums to pro-Trump groups, including the organization that raised a record $100 million for his inauguration last month.

GEO Group, one of the nation’s largest for-profit prison operators, donated $250,000 to support Trump’s inaugural festivities, Pablo Paez, the company’s vice president of corporate relations, told USA TODAY.

That’s on top of the $225,000 that a company subsidiary donated to a super PAC that spent some $22 million to help elect the real-estate magnate. Another prison operator, CoreCivic, gave $250,000 to support Trump’s inauguration, recently filed congressional reports show.

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Postby prahaar » 12 May 2017 19:04

Wow. I would like to see the presentation of these prison business companies to their investors :-). We are working hard to increase the potential addressable market, by introducing necessary changes in the ecosystem :-).

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Postby Yayavar » 13 May 2017 02:27

ha ha ha! That is a real good one.

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Postby komal » 16 May 2017 04:50

Was India the source that Trump compromised? Also apologize in advance to anyone offended by my posting anything that even dares suggest that President Trump may have made a mistake.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-revealed-highly-classified-information-to-russian-foreign-minister-and-ambassador/2017/05/15/530c172a-3960-11e7-9e48-c4f199710b69_story.html?utm_term=.d0d8c651411e


U.S. President Donald Trump disclosed highly classified information to the Russian foreign minister about a planned Islamic State operation during their meeting last week, two U.S. officials with knowledge of the situation said on Monday.

The intelligence, both officials said, was supplied by a U.S. ally in the fight against the militant group.

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Postby Singha » 16 May 2017 06:27

No most likely ksa or jordan trying to curry favour but not on great terms with russia.
A jihadi emir was killed in dagestan this week

India will very well tell russia directly

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Postby UlanBatori » 16 May 2017 08:04

Wow! Just been to Dagestan on Google. What an experience. Makes you appreciate how far these republics came under Soviet rule.

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Postby Singha » 16 May 2017 09:02

There are autonomous republics in russia none of us ever hear of. Soviet tank armies absorbed everything.

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Postby Yagnasri » 16 May 2017 09:39

Does anyone really believe Golden Monkey did disclose these "secrets" to Russians in a WH meeting attended by other officials?

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Postby Suraj » 16 May 2017 11:47

Yagnasri wrote:Does anyone really believe Golden Monkey did disclose these "secrets" to Russians in a WH meeting attended by other officials?

IMHO, that's the wrong question to ask. The more appropriate one is whether he even realizes those were classified materials he shouldn't be babbling about in such a setting ?

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Postby Yagnasri » 16 May 2017 12:21

I believe he knows what he is speaking and does it anyway. He either can not help himself or does it delibarately. Crazy and cunning fellow.

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Postby Philip » 16 May 2017 13:40

There is sustain ed concerted effort on by the US establishment,Clintons,etc., to get Trump impeached just as Nixon was. It seems to be Watergate redux.What did the Pres. know and when did he know it? Yet again mysterious allegations of taped conversations with the sacked FBI chief,etc.,etc.
And now e have allegations about Trump sharing classified info with the Russian for. Min.!

Frankly speaking,what do you expect a US pres. and Ru FM to discuss.The weather? No,that Brit style. :rotfl: Vodka and caviar,the Bolshoi ,KIrov,ice hockey,basketball,what? When both Russia and the US are militarily engaged in the ME,both in Syria too,it should be obvious that ISIS being openly declared public enemy no.1 of both nations,anti-ISIS strategies may be on the agenda. What the US establishment is doing is to try and prevent ANY communications between the leaders of both the US and Russia ,and to trap Trump into an impeachment process where anti-Trump elements on both sides of the house will conspire to unseat him.

Where is the evidence or the "source" who has provided the WP with this news? Thus far it is all insinuation with NO facts whatsoever given. Fake news at its best. In fact,there might even be some very cleverly fake news designed to appear true. Trump is under siege from within. At this rate all bets are off whether he will remain in office with this sustained anti-Trump and anti-Russia movement conducting the campaign at full steam.He has few friends in the media too. Will it all come to "wag the dog" time?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... use-report
Donald Trump 'shared highly classified information with Russian officials'
Trump shared intelligence connected to a threat from Isis, reports say
Russian foreign minister and ambassador visited White House last week

Sabrina Siddiqui and Ben Jacobs in Washington
Tuesday 16 May 2017
Donald Trump allegedly revealed highly classified information to Russian foreign minster Sergei Lavrov and Russian ambassador to the US Sergey Kislyak during an Oval Office meeting last week.

The Washington Post reported on Monday that Trump shared details of intelligence gathered about an Isis threat that had been closely guarded within the United States government and among close US allies.

The report said that while Trump did not describe the specific source used to gather the intelligence, he provided highly classified details, apparently connected to an Isis plot related to the use of laptops on board passenger aircraft.

Top administration officials who attended the meeting swiftly pushed back on the allegations on Monday, saying Trump’s meeting with Lavrov consisted only of broad discussions surrounding counter-terrorism.

“During President Trump’s meeting with Foreign Minister Lavrov, a broad range of subjects were discussed, among which were common efforts and threats regarding counter-terrorism,” Rex Tillerson, the secretary of state, said.

“During that exchange, the nature of specific threats were discussed, but they did not discuss sources, methods or military operations.”

HR McMaster, Trump’s national security adviser, said the president and Russian foreign minister “reviewed common threats from terrorist organisations to include threats to aviation.”

“At no time were any intelligence sources or methods discussed and no military operations were disclosed that were not already known publicly,” McMaster said in a statement.

Speaking to reporters later at the White House, McMaster added to his statement by saying: “I was in the room. It didn’t happen.”

National security adviser denies Trump revealed classified information to Russians
However, the original report did not suggest Trump had discussed sources and methods. The allegation is that Trump shared some information about laptops on planes which potentially put a source at risk and was given to the US by an ally who did not give consent for that to be shared with Russia.

After the story broke, the White House did not provide any further specifics on the meeting. US officials also confirmed the Post report to other outlets amid the administration’s denials.

Chuck Schumer, the Senate Democratic leader, said the report, if true, was “very disturbing.”

“Revealing classified information at this level is extremely dangerous and puts at risk the lives of Americans and those who gather intelligence for our country,” Schumer said in a statement. “The President owes the intelligence community, the American people, and Congress a full explanation.”

Nancy Pelosi, the House Democratic leader, called for a full briefing to Congress “on the extent of the damage President Trump has done in compromising highly classified code-word intelligence to the Russians.”

“Even if President Trump unwittingly blew a highly classified code-word source to the Russians, that would be dangerous enough,” she said in a statement. “If the president outed a highly classified code-word source intentionally, that would be even more dangerous.”

The Washington Post said that in the aftermath of Trump’s meeting, White House officials went into damage-limitation mode with calls to the CIA and National Security Agency (NSA).

The meeting was already under scrutiny because of its timing – a day after Trump’s controversial decision to fire FBI director James Comey. Comey had been leading a federal investigation into potential ties between Trump and Moscow, stemming from the US government’s conclusion last year that Russia interfered with the 2016 presidential election and sought to boost Trump’s candidacy.

Despite an initial insistence by the White House that Trump’s abrupt dismissal of Comey was unrelated to the Russia inquiry, the president himself acknowledged in an interview last week that “this Russia thing” was a factor.

Questions were raised about the timing of the Trump’s meeting with the Russians, and amplified by the fact that American reporters were barred access to the Oval Office while Russian state media was allowed in. The Kremlin-backed Itar-Tass subsequently shared a number of photographs of Trump entertaining Lavrov and Kislyak.

The information shared with the Russians, according to the Washington Post report, is said to have jeopardised a critical intelligence source and been revealed without the consent of the US partner that provided the information to the US.

Trump’s alleged indiscretion drew immediate criticism across party lines.

David Kochel, Jeb Bush’s top strategist in the 2016 presidential campaign, tweeted: “John McCain probably revealed less to the KGB in 5+ years of torture at the Hanoi Hilton than Trump did in 5 minutes in the Oval.”
:rotfl:

Mark Warner, the senior Democrat on the Senate intelligence committee, tweeted: “If true, this is a slap in the face to the intel community. Risking sources and methods is inexcusable, particularly with the Russians.”

Trump’s apparent sharing of classified information with Russia is particularly noteworthy after he spent much of the presidential campaign criticising Hillary Clinton for her use of a private email server as secretary of state.

The breach of security protocol by the president comes against the backdrop of persistent calls for an independent counsel to oversee an investigation into the way Russia mounted an extensive cyberwarfare operation to influence the election.

The US government has said Russia was behind the hacking of emails of the Democratic National Committee and Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta. Tranches of those emails were released on the website Wikileaks at pivotal moments during the election in an apparent effort to undermine Clinton’s campaign.

Responding to the reports of Trump’s exchange with the Russians, the Democratic National Comittee said in a statement: “Russia no longer has to spy on us to get information – they just ask President Trump and he spills the beans with highly classified information that jeopardizes our national security and hurts our relationships with allies ...

“If Trump weren’t president, his dangerous disclosure to Russia could end with him in handcuffs.”

Imagining Donald Trump's downfall: a Greek tragedy in five acts
Lawrence Douglas

But while Democrats have aggressively zeroed in on potential links between Trump and Russia, the reaction from Republicans has been far more muted. Even as a handful of Republicans expressed concerns over the timing of Trump’s move to fire Comey, House speaker Paul Ryan and Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell, the top Republican leaders in Washington, backed the president’s decision.

“We have no way to know what was said, but protecting our nation’s secrets is paramount,” said Doug Andres, a spokesman for speaker Ryan. “The speaker hopes for a full explanation of the facts from the administration.”

Senior Republican senator John McCain told CNN that “if it’s true, it’s obviously disturbing.” But he cautioned: “Let’s wait and see what this was all about first.”

Public opinion has grown for a special prosecutor, with a new NBC/Wall Street Journal poll finding that nearly 80% of Americans believe an independent investigator should be appointed to examine Trump’s alleged ties to Russia.


PS:The supposed NBC poll where "80%" of Americans wanted a spl. prosecutor is ridiculous. How many citizens voted in the pres. election and how many were actually polled? This is the media playing to the gallery to corner Trump. The US establishment cannot tolerate an anti-establishm,ent figure such as Trump in the White House and are doing their damnedest to get him thrown out.

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Postby Lalmohan » 16 May 2017 13:55

Singha wrote:There are autonomous republics in russia none of us ever hear of. Soviet tank armies absorbed everything.


much of it done under the tsars - using the principle that the khanates who owed their allegiance to the golden horde must now do so to muscovy... its successor


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