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Understanding US thread-III

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Re: Understanding US thread-III

Postby ramana » 14 Apr 2017 11:51

It's a female doctor.

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Postby manju » 14 Apr 2017 13:05

Vivek Kumar wrote:Don't worry learned maulanas of BRF. Self defense class against a possible UA goon attack is here. 8)

:rotfl: love this... i practice bjj sometimes.. loved the smooth execution of the counter attacks

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Re: Understanding US thread-III

Postby Raja Bose » 14 Apr 2017 14:04

I stopped traveling on United a long long time ago due to their horrible service.

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Postby UlanBatori » 14 Apr 2017 17:35

Singha wrote:The moab drop in afpak was deliberate. But off a mc130. Noko will need a b2. Message sending.
I am guessing both rb and ulans travel is on ua due to corporate policy lol

Only been on UAL once: LAX-SEA, Back in 2004. Like a bus with flights every hour: no assigned seats even, IIRC. No complaint; in fact they were decent. So, no cards to cut up and no points to upgrade to Bijnej Class, by the grace of ATM.
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Re: Understanding US thread-III

Postby UlanBatori » 14 Apr 2017 17:43

Will a MOAB fit in a B-2? I guess it should, it's built like a long supersonic shape, but a bulgy thing like Fat Boy.

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Re: Understanding US thread-III

Postby saip » 15 Apr 2017 00:39

Doubtful. B2 is a flying wing and subsonic. It has Two rotary bomb magazines in the bomb bay. B1 may be?

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Re: Understanding US thread-III

Postby Falijee » 15 Apr 2017 06:02

U.S. Insurance Firms To Sue Bin- Laden Group, Saudi Banks For 9/11 Losses .

Saudi banks, bin Laden companies face $4.2 billion U.S. lawsuit by 9/11 insurers
Reuters.

More than two dozen U.S. insurers affiliated with Travelers Cos (TRV.N) have sued two Saudi banks, companies affiliated with Osama bin Laden's family, and several charities for at least $4.2 billion over the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks.
The lawsuit filed late on Wednesday night in the U.S. District Court in Manhattan is the latest effort to hold entities in Saudi Arabia liable for the attacks.Nearly 3,000 people died when hijacked airplanes crashed into New York's World Trade Center, the Pentagon near Washington, D.C. and a Pennsylvania field.The 10 defendants in the lawsuit include Al Rajhi Bank 1120.SE, National Commercial Bank (1180.SE), aviation contractor Dallah Avco, the Mohamed Binladin Co, the Muslim World League, and other charities.They were accused in the lawsuit of having "aided and abetted" the attacks through a variety of "activities in support of al Qaeda" in the years leading up to them.
"But for the assistance provided by defendants," the lawsuit said, "al Qaeda could not have successfully planned, coordinated, and carried out the September 11th attacks, which were a foreseeable and intended result of their material support and sponsorship of al Qaeda."The insurers are seeking to recoup sums paid to policyholders who suffered personal, property and business injuries from the attacks.
Their lawsuit seeks at least $1.4 billion of compensatory damages, triple damages and punitive damages.The defendants could not immediately be reached for comment on Thursday, which is the start of the weekend in the Gulf.Al Rajhi has previously said that U.S. courts have "repeatedly" dismissed similar claims against the bank, which "has no links to terrorism" and is "committed to operating at the highest levels of compliance" with applicable rules.The Saudi government and affiliates including the Public Investment Fund, its sovereign wealth fund, have a majority stake in National Commercial Bank.
A Travelers spokesman, Matt Bordonaro, had no immediate additional comment on Thursday.Several other lawsuits pending in the Manhattan court seek to hold Saudi Arabia liable to individuals and insurers over its alleged involvement in the Sept. 11 attacks. The Saudi government has denied such involvement.Saudi Arabia long had broad immunity from such lawsuits in the United States, but Congress in September overrode a veto by former President Barack Obama and allowed such lawsuits to proceed.The case is Charter Oak Fire Insurance Co et al v Al Rajhi Bank et al, U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York, No. 17-02651. The timing of the insurance companies lawsuit is very interesting . 9/11 survivors are suing the Saudi Govt . And the insurance companies are making sure that if they have to make a payout on this score, the principal party responsible for this repulsive deed (ie. Saudi Arabia ) do not go scott -free, financially speaking :mrgreen:

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Re: Understanding US thread-III

Postby Falijee » 15 Apr 2017 23:03

MOSCOW MONEY Ex-MI6 chief accuses Donald Trump of secretly borrowing from Russia to keep his property empire afloat during the financial crisis

The bombshell accusation from ex-spymaster Sir Richard Dearlove comes as rumours continue to swirl about the president’s past business dealings with Moscow.
Well connected Sir Richard also warned any shady deals could still come back to haunt the billionaire in the White House.
The MI6 chief between 1999 and 2004 told Prospect magazine: “What lingers for Trump may be what deals—on what terms—he did after the financial crisis of 2008 to borrow Russian money when others in the west apparently would not lend to him”.His intervention deepens the already raging feud between Trump and the intelligence community on both sides of the Atlantic.
The ex-spy boss also branded the new president’s wild allegations last month that Cheltenham-based eavesdroppers GCHQ bugged his offices on predecessor Barack Obama’s orders as “deeply embarrassing”.He added: “For Trump and the administration, that is.“The only possible explanation is that Trump started tweeting without understanding how the NSA-GCHQ relationship actually works”.

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Re: Understanding US thread-III

Postby UlanBatori » 16 Apr 2017 01:09

So what? Sounds like the classic "accusation":
DID YOU KNOW HIS SISTER IS A THESPIAN?

The Russians loaned money to him in 2009 because they knew he would be President in 2017? :rotfl:

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Re: Understanding US thread-III

Postby Dipanker » 16 Apr 2017 01:29

As per a member congressman of house intelligence committee, some people will be heading to jail over this.

British intelligence passed Trump associates' communications with Russians on to US counterparts

Washington (CNN)British and other European intelligence agencies intercepted communications between associates of Donald Trump and Russian officials and other Russian individuals during the campaign and passed on those communications to their US counterparts, US congressional and law enforcement and US and European intelligence sources tell CNN.

The communications were captured during routine surveillance of Russian officials and other Russians known to western intelligence. British and European intelligence agencies, including GCHQ, the British intelligence agency responsible for communications surveillance, were not proactively targeting members of the Trump team but rather picked up these communications during what's known as "incidental collection," these sources tell CNN.

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Re: Understanding US thread-III

Postby Yagnasri » 16 Apr 2017 03:11

This incidental collection drama is going to be there for some more time. Neo-Cons scum will try their best and Golden Mankey its best. It is the fourth generation war wherein information is the key. The people like Ann Coulter are not happy with the monkey dance of the day as it is dancing to the totally different tune now. We need to wait for future programmes to judge.

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Re: Understanding US thread-III

Postby komal » 16 Apr 2017 03:54

UlanBatori wrote:So what? Sounds like the classic "accusation":
DID YOU KNOW HIS SISTER IS A THESPIAN?

The Russians loaned money to him in 2009 because they knew he would be President in 2017? :rotfl:


The point is not that he is indebted to the Rooskies. The point is that he lies about where his loyalties lie (no pun intended).

The Donald failed to disclose that he borrowed billions from the Rooksikes in 2009 -- when no one else would lend to him. And he still owes them billions of dollars. And he will pay back by selling Alaska to them for $1.00

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Re: Understanding US thread-III

Postby Gus » 16 Apr 2017 06:10

wonderful, just as the wise guys here predicted...

Donald Trump ends aid to Pakistan

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Re: Understanding US thread-III

Postby komal » 16 Apr 2017 06:34

^^^^^
the Donald has no problem letting Americans die for lack of health insurance and has no problem using tax money to enrich the enablers of OBL.

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Re: Understanding US thread-III

Postby manju » 16 Apr 2017 22:04

Gus wrote:wonderful, just as the wise guys here predicted...

Donald Trump ends aid to Pakistan


that was a googlie :eek:


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Re: Understanding US thread-III

Postby SaiK » 17 Apr 2017 01:39

western lunacy indeed. perhaps eastern cultures are not providing the right resources for them to assimilate. ;-)

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Re: Understanding US thread-III

Postby g.sarkar » 17 Apr 2017 02:31

manju wrote:
Gus wrote:wonderful, just as the wise guys here predicted...

Donald Trump ends aid to Pakistan


that was a googlie :eek:

I think aid was increased by a modest amount.
Gautam

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Re: Understanding US thread-III

Postby Gus » 17 Apr 2017 07:28

following the lead.. :lol:

is that the best 'secretly chankian stuff that only wise people get' that can be thought of? is that better than "they are learning"?

when it was commented that paul manafort was a lobbyist for pakis, it was pooh poohed as "he's only a professional and not an idealogue"

let's see where this goes...

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Re: Understanding US thread-III

Postby Yagnasri » 17 Apr 2017 09:52

It seems that Golden Monkey does not like Banana anymore. Banana and Damaad had a sit for heart to heart discussion and Gok what is going to happen.

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Re: Understanding US thread-III

Postby Dipanker » 17 Apr 2017 10:16

Right now the score is like DT 10 - Shalabh Kumar Brigade 0 ( you know who you are! )

Now there last hope is big fat tax cut! ( Like that's going to happen!)
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Re: Understanding US thread-III

Postby Mort Walker » 17 Apr 2017 10:18

Dipanker wrote:Right now the score is like DT 10 - Shalabh Kumar Brigade 0 ( you know who you are! )

Now there is last hope is big fat tax cut!


Still can't get over the election, can you?

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Re: Understanding US thread-III

Postby Gagan » 17 Apr 2017 18:48

Quite possible that Doval himself carried/delivered intel on ISI/ISIS presence in Nangarhar Afg.

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Re: Understanding US thread-III

Postby UlanBatori » 17 Apr 2017 19:16

Had we been in a HiC era now, (and I base what I write on direct interview quote when HiC opened her mouth recently, giving advice on Syria) the entire Syrian Air Force would have been ordered sha'heed by the POTUS, and we would be in a nice situation with a few US ships sunk and planes downed, LOTS of Russians dead in Syria, full-scale war in Europe, more genocide in Syria as Moderate Terrorists start raping and murdering the Shia and Alawites in Damascus, Ukraine in flames....

Generally a much more "interesting" time. What a loss!! :(( :((

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Re: Understanding US thread-III

Postby UlanBatori » 17 Apr 2017 21:08

And from our United Airlines Customer Appreciation thread:

I have no idea what the staff were thinking: customers offer to pay more to move to empty seats, airline asks them to get off the plane!!! :rotfl:

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Re: Understanding US thread-III

Postby LokeshC » 17 Apr 2017 21:14

My guess is top down bureaucracy making it impossible for the low level staff to take quick decisions.

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Postby Gus » 17 Apr 2017 22:11

increase in aid on the backdrop of this?

http://www.firstpost.com/world/us-natio ... 89282.html
McMaster, who arrived here early on Monday, made the remarks during his meeting with Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif.

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Postby Garooda » 18 Apr 2017 02:12

komal wrote:
UlanBatori wrote:So what? Sounds like the classic "accusation":

The Russians loaned money to him in 2009 because they knew he would be President in 2017? :rotfl:


The point is not that he is indebted to the Rooskies. The point is that he lies about where his loyalties lie (no pun intended).

The Donald failed to disclose that he borrowed billions from the Rooksikes in 2009 -- when no one else would lend to him. And he still owes them billions of dollars. And he will pay back by selling Alaska to them for $1.00

Banks loan to businesses all the time as that's one of the source of revenue for them. If THE Donald invested in Russia and decided to borrow from a Russian bank who stands to be benefited by charging interest, then whats wrong with that? Just think. Ofcourse US banks wouldn't lend as its self explanatory about 2008 wall street dive. Do you think the decision to buy and sell US territory is solely upto THE Donald? :lol:

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Re: Understanding US thread-III

Postby saip » 18 Apr 2017 02:32

DT was on record if I remember correctly that he never had ANY dealings with Russians and no investments there. Then where does the bank loan come from?

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Postby UlanBatori » 18 Apr 2017 03:37

If Tatiana's Friendly Loans & Baseball Bat Wielders Co. lends 100 rupees to my chai-paan gaadi bijnez, I don't have investments in Tatiana's - Tatiana's is investing in MY empire. Madarssa Econ 101 onlee. Plus.. far from making me a Loyal Tatiana Fan, it makes me wish Tatiana's Baink goes belly-up - or that one of her former customers visits her nbd with an AK-47 from a black limo. So I don't have to repay the loan. Elementary Al Capone Wisdom 102.
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Postby Gus » 18 Apr 2017 03:48

for the Nth time..and somehow this concept is very hard to understand for some :roll:

the issue is not the contacts, or the investments..the issue is the LYING about it.

The issue is not that Flynn called Russian ambassador. The issue is that he LIED about it when asked about it. The issue is that he possibly lied about it to avoid questions if he was discussing lifting of sanctions.

The issue is that Trump said that he had NO dealings in russia when there is evidence now that he was lent money and he possibly still owes money. By the way where are those damn tax returns? If the excuse was that there was stuff that was damaging and could not be exposed before elections, what is the excuse now to still not disclose it? He is the president now, right? What is SO damaging there that it still has to be kept guarded?

of course all these questions will be dismissed as "not getting over elections", "oh you won't understand, because us uber smarts only can understand secretly chankian plans" blah blah...

or "because Hilary". :rotfl:

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Re: Understanding US thread-III

Postby komal » 18 Apr 2017 04:24

^^^^
DT is a perennial deadbeat who owes the Rooskies billions of USD. DT disclosed none of this to the public.

His supporters who told us the blood curdling things he would do to TSP once he took office seem unaware of the distinction between meeting with the Rooskies and being in debt to them.

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Postby KJo » 18 Apr 2017 04:36

komal wrote:^^^^
DT is a perennial deadbeat who owes the Rooskies billions of USD. DT disclosed none of this to the public.

His supporters who told us the blood curdling things he would do to TSP once he took office seem unaware of the distinction between meeting with the Rooskies and being in debt to them.


For any chunnu munnu job in the US, they do background check.
No check for POTUS. :rotfl:

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Re: Understanding US thread-III

Postby UlanBatori » 18 Apr 2017 06:49

The whole nation has borrowed $16T from China, North Korea, Pakistan, etc etc, so isn't it appropriate that the POTUS has borrowed a few $B from friendly Vlad, hain?

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Re: Understanding US thread-III

Postby Manish_P » 18 Apr 2017 12:11

What ? No Saudiyaa... hain :shock: ?

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Re: Understanding US thread-III

Postby Lalmohan » 18 Apr 2017 15:23

"kompromat" doesn't just have to be about svetlana and tatiana golden sandwich and rain making services - thats almost a given
flynn... giuliani... nunes... now maybe pence and for sure ryan... all are coming under comey's gaze...
pompeo appears to have chosen sides now
wheels are moving

oh and the freebies for pakistan are supposed to be mad-dog's idea, naranjito goes along with it cos he doesn't have an opinion

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Re: Understanding US thread-III

Postby komal » 18 Apr 2017 16:03

UlanBatori wrote:The whole nation has borrowed $16T from China, North Korea, Pakistan, etc etc, so isn't it appropriate that the POTUS has borrowed a few $B from friendly Vlad, hain?


He didn't borrow the money as POTUS, he borrowed the money as a deadbeat adulterer. And now he, like the DMK, will find a way to pay off his personal debts using taxpayer funds.

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Re: Understanding US thread-III

Postby UlanBatori » 18 Apr 2017 16:15

Manish_P wrote:What ? No Saudiyaa... hain :shock: ?

NOW u r talking about halal lenders who per Sharia do not charge interest at all. Nor seek to exert any influence. Like me lending my 5 rupees to Wells Fargo Baink High Interest Money Market acct at a High 0.000000000001% interest. Surely they cannot blame their acct-opening spree on my pressure, hain?

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Postby KJo » 18 Apr 2017 17:27

Donald Trump to overhaul H-1B visa program that admits foreign workers
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... tive-order
In a bid to court working class voters, Donald Trump will sign an executive order on Tuesday to revamp a temporary visa programme used to bring foreign workers to fill jobs in the US.

The president will use a visit to a manufacturing company in Kenosha, Wisconsin, a crucial state he snatched from Hillary Clinton in the election, to promote his latest “Buy America Hire America” offensive.

This includes an attempt to redress alleged abuses in the H-1B visas, which are used largely by the tech industry, and on which has Trump shifted position several times during the election campaign.
US suspension of fast track for H-1B visas leaves foreign workers in limbo
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H-1B visas admit 65,000 workers and another 20,000 graduate student workers each year. Most of the visas are awarded to outsourcing firms, which critics say exploit loopholes to fill lower-level IT jobs with foreign workers, often at lower pay. The White House intends “a total transformation” of the programme from a lottery to a merit-based system, a senior administration official said.

Trump’s executive order will call on government departments to introduce reforms to ensure that H-1B visas are awarded to the “most skilled or highest paid applicants”, the official told reporters.

“Right now H-1B visas are awarded by random lottery and many of you will be surprised to know that about 80% of H-1B workers are paid less than the median wage in their fields. Only 5% to 6%, depending on the year, of H-1B workers command the highest wage tier recognised by the Department of Labor.”

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Re: Understanding US thread-III

Postby Gus » 18 Apr 2017 17:56

H1B is an easy target, makes the headlines and all, but putting screws on it - while may cut down on some abuse that's going on, also runs the risk of these jobs going overseas forever.


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