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France need to think about those deals only when it is willing for significant tech transfers. Not going to happen otherwise. Once bitten twice shy !
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^^Already part of "Atmanirbhar Bharat". Those hard-sell deals from goras are a thing of the post.
It seems the first reaction of VIP chaddis is to ring up GOI and make plans. Good....
It seems the first reaction of VIP chaddis is to ring up GOI and make plans. Good....
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Reading a few posts over last 2-3 pages of this thread, can't help but think how similar they sound to Pakis jumping from Saudis to Americans to Malaysia to China to Turkey and so on. These posters are doing Russia-US-France.
Have these posters forgotten that France will happily sell the same thing to China or Pakistan without any care if its possible? It is as mercantile nation as US, UK and a hugely racist and colonial supremacist like any other. Even some of the successful JVs that Indians had with them like Dhruv saw problems because they charged way too much money. They were happily robbing Australia in similar way too. India can look for some common objectives with them. Anything else is pure stupidity.
Have these posters forgotten that France will happily sell the same thing to China or Pakistan without any care if its possible? It is as mercantile nation as US, UK and a hugely racist and colonial supremacist like any other. Even some of the successful JVs that Indians had with them like Dhruv saw problems because they charged way too much money. They were happily robbing Australia in similar way too. India can look for some common objectives with them. Anything else is pure stupidity.
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Jamwal saab, if India is so pi$$sed the French sell to its enemies, we can stop buying no? And do the same with Russia, UK, US... If French mil wares are too expensive, stop sending them "requests" for proposals. Why don't we?
May be you have a solution for our defence needs that the rest of us, Indian forces, GoI don't.
May be you have a solution for our defence needs that the rest of us, Indian forces, GoI don't.
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Well the solution is simple. Buy local. Get another 2 lines for MK1a, accelerate the MK2, AMCA, TEDBF etc, dump $4-5 billion each year into Kaveri or it's derivatives, get Arjun in service in numbers etc etc
But we keep paying French or Russians or Amreekis through our nose under the guise of "strategic purchase" or "paying for UNSC vote" etc and here we are.
But we keep paying French or Russians or Amreekis through our nose under the guise of "strategic purchase" or "paying for UNSC vote" etc and here we are.
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jamwal wrote:Reading a few posts over last 2-3 pages of this thread, can't help but think how similar they sound to Pakis jumping from Saudis to Americans to Malaysia to China to Turkey and so on. These posters are doing Russia-US-France.
Have these posters forgotten that France will happily sell the same thing to China or Pakistan without any care if its possible? It is as mercantile nation as US, UK and a hugely racist and colonial supremacist like any other. Even some of the successful JVs that Indians had with them like Dhruv saw problems because they charged way too much money. They were happily robbing Australia in similar way too. India can look for some common objectives with them. Anything else is pure stupidity.
Simply not true. What military equipment have French sold Pakis in the last 10 years? They refused to provide avionics for the JF-17 and weaponary for the Mirage-3 upgrade.
French cut pakis off a while ago and have stood by india consistently. Look at their record at UNSC, they have consistently stood by india more than any other P5
The assessment about this being similar to pakis salivating over Saudis/Chinese isn’t at all comparable. The talk here is about indi and France working as equals work convergent world views. Pakis want US/China/Saudis as a sugar daddy.
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French refusal to deny Mirage 3 upgrades were due to multiple factors like criticism of French policies related to Islamism and cost, not any love for India. Same with upgrades for submarines. Taiwanese who fly Mirage-2000s keep on complaining about poor serviceability of their fleet and French reluctance to sort out issues due to Chinese pressure.
We can at best have transactional relations with them. They or any other country for that matter are not true allies like US-UK are. Even Soviets controlled the exact use of their military items, actively sabotaged (or tried to) local design efforts and had most Indian politicians on their payrolls.
Like I said:
We can at best have transactional relations with them. They or any other country for that matter are not true allies like US-UK are. Even Soviets controlled the exact use of their military items, actively sabotaged (or tried to) local design efforts and had most Indian politicians on their payrolls.
Like I said:
India can look for some common objectives with them. Anything else is pure stupidity.
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https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/12/zemmour-rises/
Zemmour is often called the Trump of France because he is against mass immigration, and he’s a popular figure known from television. But he’s much more than that. He is a populist intellectual, the author of best-selling history books and the son of Berber Jewish immigrants from Algeria. He has been arrested for — though not convicted of — hate-speech crimes. He finds things that are unsayable, and then he says them. “Right and left have lied and concealed the gravity of our diminishment,” he said in his speech. “They have hidden from you the reality of our replacement.”
What Éric Zemmour is doing — perhaps more aggressively than any contender for office before — is explicitly putting the question of Islam into the center of French politics, where it has existed as an anxiety for decades. And, in truth, it cannot any longer be ignored. Nearly 70 percent of the prison population of France is Muslim.
Zemmour’s announcement was dramatic, and slightly dark. He reached as deep into the well of nationalist rhetoric as one can go. He called out the media, the EU, academia, and all the elites, compiling them together as one “cold and determined monster” rising up to dishonor the citizens of the real France. But he needs to also play up the sense of merry, swashbuckling adventure that was part of de Gaulle’s brand of politics.
And he will also need to go deeper. What exactly would he have the Muslims who live in France do? The French state has tried to build up institutions to make Islam more like the Catholic Church that French secularism knows how to contain and barter with. This has failed. Recent presidents have tried to push the secular vision harder in French education. This is also failing.
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Zemmour's emotional patriotic outrage plea will attract quite some supporters from the right wing Front National of Le Pen. It will also attract many from the middle/right since he talks about bringing back industry and jobs, protecting IP, investing in scientific research, not be overly dependent on EU etc.
One thing is for sure, it has changed the tone of the election debate strongly and all other political parties are obliged to talk about these issues and reveal where they actually stand. The losers will be bleeding heart left liberals who are well entrenched and hare-brained greens.
The real unknown is how much anti-muslim sentiment exists in the voters of France. This election first round will reveal that. And it may surprise more than most people care to admit.
If in round two its between tv debater Zemmour and current president Macron, the latter will romp home to a win by just adding a few of these emotional items to his discourse.
One thing is for sure, it has changed the tone of the election debate strongly and all other political parties are obliged to talk about these issues and reveal where they actually stand. The losers will be bleeding heart left liberals who are well entrenched and hare-brained greens.
The real unknown is how much anti-muslim sentiment exists in the voters of France. This election first round will reveal that. And it may surprise more than most people care to admit.
If in round two its between tv debater Zemmour and current president Macron, the latter will romp home to a win by just adding a few of these emotional items to his discourse.
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This is a great piece by NYT exposing the Euro Christian exploitations of people from the new world. For years now, I have been asking woke and non woke people in US to look at what's happening in India through the lens of Islamic and Euro colonialism and extrapolate from it to better understand India/Hindu mindset and politics.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/20/worl ... rance.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/20/worl ... rance.html
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behind pay/login wall saar !
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Jay Sirji, I am too cheap to pay for NYT subscription. Could you please post relevant parts?
Gautam
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Here is a similar article:
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Cyrano ji/Sarkar ji sorry, I do not have a non paywall link for the article. If you ignore the brand "NYT" its a very comprehensive article with multiple addendums as responses to the original that lay out the western Europe's barbaric colonialism.
Wish Swarajya or some other desi publication get the ball rolling of what India went through and what was lost because of British and Arabic colonists.
Wish Swarajya or some other desi publication get the ball rolling of what India went through and what was lost because of British and Arabic colonists.
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Thanks Jay Sirji. I too do not like NYT, but have to read it as it might have important and relevant info. In the past I was able to read it as incognito or had some free reading privilege every month.
But thanks anyway,
Gautam
But thanks anyway,
Gautam
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Deep pockets at NYT make such in-depth reportage possible.Jay wrote:Cyrano ji/Sarkar ji sorry, I do not have a non paywall link for the article. If you ignore the brand "NYT" its a very comprehensive article with multiple addendums as responses to the original that lay out the western Europe's barbaric colonialism.
Wish Swarajya or some other desi publication get the ball rolling of what India went through and what was lost because of British and Arabic colonists.
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Here is the short version, for those who can't be bothered with the NYT or a long-form article.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNF1oz8VkjY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNF1oz8VkjY
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Macron Loses Absolute Majority as Opposition Surges, a Blow for New Term
PARIS — Voters in France’s legislative elections dealt President Emmanuel Macron a serious blow on Sunday as his centrist coalition lost its absolute majority in the lower house of Parliament to a resurgent far-right and a defiant alliance of left-wing parties, complicating his domestic agenda for his second term.
With all votes counted, Mr. Macron’s centrist coalition won 245 seats in the 577-seat National Assembly, the lower and more powerful house of Parliament. That was more than any other political group, but less than half of all the seats, and far less than the 350 seats Mr. Macron’s party and its allies won when he was first elected in 2017.
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France will now have its common minimum program mess. Given the escalating energy crisis and unresolved Ukr conflict, a weak France will not do the much required EU rebalancing. 3 stooges from Brussels will ratchet up the power grab. Macron will regret his 2nd term.
But Macron has himself to blame. Learnt nothing from the Yellow Vests popular uprising and painted himself squarely as a pro-Big Fin, pro-rich opportunist. What a cardinal error in a country like France.
But Macron has himself to blame. Learnt nothing from the Yellow Vests popular uprising and painted himself squarely as a pro-Big Fin, pro-rich opportunist. What a cardinal error in a country like France.
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Cyrano
Can and how does India leverage the above?
Can and how does India leverage the above?
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India-France cooperation and collaboration had been an anaemic pre-ado for a long time but still yet to come of age due to mostly topical reactions like you suggest, while not working enough on the following structural, long term factors: (nothing wrong, but such moments pass and the relationship doesn't scale further)
- Language barrier limiting people to people exchange and cross migration >> not going away anytime soon, but changing nevertheless
- Industrial maps of France and India are not sufficiently complementary >> can improve significantly in a decade or so
- Very disconnected supply chains, we don't have many synergy generating inter dependencies >> will take a couple of decades to alter significantly
- Mostly convergent geopolitical interests, France's influence slowly going down and India rapidly moving up are good second rung powers that can help each other and do.
- Lefty media is very dominant in France and paints a rather outdated "Salaam Bombay" picture of India (only to be replaced by "Slumdog Millionaire" !) and a distorted right wing extreme picture of its present Govt, while paying lip service to its economic and strategic progress.
- French people are more genuinely concerned and vocal about Environmental issues and Climate change than most of the west >> lots can be done here
I'd say Mil tech industrial cooperation is the right stepping stone. Thats where French industry is strongest and can compete better by linking capabilities and capacities with India. We seem to be pushing in that direction, but they are linked to big ticket purchases which if they go through will set the foundation for all the rest.
I'm not going into bilateral trade because a good part of it also depends on trade pact being discussed with EU.
As India reaches out more and more to the world, and we are very good at learning new languages, French (along with German, Russian, Chinese, Japanese) must be offered as accessible language options from school level. Establish research partnerships between top 10 French univs and institutes and Indian ones etc.
On a geo strategic level, the relationship is very strong, Ukraine has not made any impact on it.
- Language barrier limiting people to people exchange and cross migration >> not going away anytime soon, but changing nevertheless
- Industrial maps of France and India are not sufficiently complementary >> can improve significantly in a decade or so
- Very disconnected supply chains, we don't have many synergy generating inter dependencies >> will take a couple of decades to alter significantly
- Mostly convergent geopolitical interests, France's influence slowly going down and India rapidly moving up are good second rung powers that can help each other and do.
- Lefty media is very dominant in France and paints a rather outdated "Salaam Bombay" picture of India (only to be replaced by "Slumdog Millionaire" !) and a distorted right wing extreme picture of its present Govt, while paying lip service to its economic and strategic progress.
- French people are more genuinely concerned and vocal about Environmental issues and Climate change than most of the west >> lots can be done here
I'd say Mil tech industrial cooperation is the right stepping stone. Thats where French industry is strongest and can compete better by linking capabilities and capacities with India. We seem to be pushing in that direction, but they are linked to big ticket purchases which if they go through will set the foundation for all the rest.
I'm not going into bilateral trade because a good part of it also depends on trade pact being discussed with EU.
As India reaches out more and more to the world, and we are very good at learning new languages, French (along with German, Russian, Chinese, Japanese) must be offered as accessible language options from school level. Establish research partnerships between top 10 French univs and institutes and Indian ones etc.
On a geo strategic level, the relationship is very strong, Ukraine has not made any impact on it.
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"- Language barrier limiting people to people exchange and cross migration >> not going away anytime soon, but changing nevertheless"
Changing due to French have accepted that the lingua franca is English? or Indians getting to learn French? I think it is the former but I am not sure.
Changing due to French have accepted that the lingua franca is English? or Indians getting to learn French? I think it is the former but I am not sure.
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French univs and schools are offering lots of 1 & 2 year post grad programs in English. Indian students are a huge global business and the French, like rest of G7 and some others are trying to get a piece of the paratha. Alliance Française in India is doing brisk business too I hear. IT sector is doing ok too, Cap Gemini, Atos and other tech co.s have large Indian development centres. Loreal, Luxury industries etc have IT/process back offices in India, and also some skilled artisan work is outsourced. But France itself is awash with lots of cheap Chinese goods - India can't compete there for foreseeable future.
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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... road-ahead
The Guardian view on Macron’s bad night: a rocky road ahead
Editorial, 20 Jun 2022
A remarkable parliamentary election has transformed the political landscape
Ahead of Sunday’s legislative elections, Emmanuel Macron asked voters to deliver his parliamentary grouping a solid mandate at a time of multiple crises. The alternative, said the recently re-elected president, would be to add “disorder in France to the disorder in the world”.
This plea was resoundingly rejected. In a stunning set of results, which added up to a terrible night for Mr Macron, his centrist alliance lost more than 100 seats in the National Assembly. Though it remains the largest force, the president’s Ensemble (Together) party fell far short of achieving an absolute majority, and a number of high-profile heavy-hitters were defeated at the polls.
Arguably, this was not the biggest shock of an election where the turnout was depressingly low. Outstripping its wildest expectations, the French far right achieved easily its best-ever parliamentary result. Upping its number of deputies from eight to 89, Rassemblement National won swathes of new territory as supporters turned out in the north and south-east. Marine Le Pen’s party will now enjoy unprecedented visibility on the national stage and gain access to significant constitutional rights in the Assembly. Meanwhile, on the left, a new alliance led by the hard-left veteran Jean-Luc Mélenchon became the main opposition force to Mr Macron’s centrist grouping. The controversial uniting of France’s fragmented left, under Mr Mélenchon’s charismatic but divisive leadership, proved a tactical triumph. The alliance more than doubled the number of seats its constituent parts won in 2017.
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Gautam
The Guardian view on Macron’s bad night: a rocky road ahead
Editorial, 20 Jun 2022
A remarkable parliamentary election has transformed the political landscape
Ahead of Sunday’s legislative elections, Emmanuel Macron asked voters to deliver his parliamentary grouping a solid mandate at a time of multiple crises. The alternative, said the recently re-elected president, would be to add “disorder in France to the disorder in the world”.
This plea was resoundingly rejected. In a stunning set of results, which added up to a terrible night for Mr Macron, his centrist alliance lost more than 100 seats in the National Assembly. Though it remains the largest force, the president’s Ensemble (Together) party fell far short of achieving an absolute majority, and a number of high-profile heavy-hitters were defeated at the polls.
Arguably, this was not the biggest shock of an election where the turnout was depressingly low. Outstripping its wildest expectations, the French far right achieved easily its best-ever parliamentary result. Upping its number of deputies from eight to 89, Rassemblement National won swathes of new territory as supporters turned out in the north and south-east. Marine Le Pen’s party will now enjoy unprecedented visibility on the national stage and gain access to significant constitutional rights in the Assembly. Meanwhile, on the left, a new alliance led by the hard-left veteran Jean-Luc Mélenchon became the main opposition force to Mr Macron’s centrist grouping. The controversial uniting of France’s fragmented left, under Mr Mélenchon’s charismatic but divisive leadership, proved a tactical triumph. The alliance more than doubled the number of seats its constituent parts won in 2017.
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Gautam
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French Safran to set-up engine MRO in India, offers to partner AMCA project
French aircraft engine major Safran is all set to announce a maintenance repair and overhaul (MRO) facility for leading edge aviation propulsion (LEAP) commercial aircraft engines in India as part of its offset commitments. The MRO facility, said to be based either in Hyderabad or Bengaluru, will apparently be announced tomorrow when Safran CEO Olivier Andres meets Indian Civil Aviation Minister Jyotiraditya Scindia.
The MRO state-of-the-art facility will be set up through a 100 per cent Indian subsidiary route that will not only service some 330 engines used by Indian commercial carriers but also Safran-GE joint venture engines from other countries in South Asia, West Asia, and Africa. For the facility, SAFRAN is bringing in USD 150 million foreign direct investment with plans of moving into MRO of military engines used in Indian Air Force Rafale and Mirage 2000 fighters in the future to push the “Atmanirbhar Bharat” initiative. The French company is the supplier of M88 engines for IAF’s recently acquired 26 Rafale multi-role fighters and is also the number one helicopter engine supplier to India.
Apart from the MRO facility, the French company has also submitted a proposal to the Indian government to co-develop with DRDO’s Gas Turbine Research Establishment (GTRE) a new state-of-the-art 110 kilo newton thrust engine for India’s futuristic advanced medium combat aircraft twin-engine AMCA fighter project. The cost per engine for 400 engines will work out to 10-12 million euros, which is what we pay for engines today, said a defence expert. That will be for 400 engines, which is what we would need for twin engine AMCAs if we have 6-7 squadrons. Will probably need more, the expert added.
The Safran offer is not subject to International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR), a US regulatory regime to restrict and control the export of defence and military-related technologies to safeguard US national security and further US foreign policy objectives. This means that the proposed Safran-GTRE joint venture will be exporting military engines to third countries without being subjected to restrictive regimes. The French company believes that the new 110 KN engine could be certified by 2035, provided the co-development process gets a green signal this year. The full cost of co-development of the 110 KN engine will be around five to six billion euros.
While the DRDO is also looking at GE-414 engine to power the AMCA project as an alternative, the Safran offer contains performance guarantee, and transfer all required technology for design, development, production and support besides creating a robust industrial aero-engine ecosystem in India.
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Safran to set up joint venture with HAL for co-developing and manufacturing new Heli engine! per Toilet article.
GTRE and now this all part of Old Rafale investment or inducement for the further Rafale orders or stop Unkil from selling F18's!!
At least the Heli engines will help with IMRH and the Naval variants wouldn't it??
GTRE and now this all part of Old Rafale investment or inducement for the further Rafale orders or stop Unkil from selling F18's!!
At least the Heli engines will help with IMRH and the Naval variants wouldn't it??
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Rsatchi wrote:Safran to set up joint venture with HAL for co-developing and manufacturing new Heli engine! per Toilet article.
GTRE and now this all part of Old Rafale investment or inducement for the further Rafale orders or stop Unkil from selling F18's!!
At least the Heli engines will help with IMRH and the Naval variants wouldn't it??
The engines for ALH + & LUH are French engines manufactured by HAL , if this is for IMRH then its good news
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the crown jewels of that engine still comes from France, we do a screwdriver giri of that. Overall not a bad arrangement, but that aint they gave all ToT to us.
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Fanne, please see some of the industrial videos I posted in the rafale thread. The production processes are nothing to scoff at. There is learning everywhere, all the time, if we want to improve ourselves and surpass.
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Until India pours its own money into R&D and guarantees bulk orders we'll continue saying this for the next few decades.Cyrano wrote:Fanne, please see some of the industrial videos I posted in the rafale thread. The production processes are nothing to scoff at. There is learning everywhere, all the time, if we want to improve ourselves and surpass.
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India, France, UAE form Trilateral Forum to promote the design and execution of cooperation projects in energy, with a focus on solar and nuclear energy, and to fight climate change.
Important arrangement comes into play.
Government of the French Republic and the Government of the United Arab Emirates on the Establishment of a Trilateral Cooperation Initiative
Important arrangement comes into play.
Government of the French Republic and the Government of the United Arab Emirates on the Establishment of a Trilateral Cooperation Initiative
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Good! Its a smart strategy by India to have multiple fora with the same actors for ex UAE is part of this trilateral and also I2U2 etc. Keeps them honest and consistent.
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Now we need a country beginning with the letter A and make it - FABRICS .. the french and the aussies together might not be a good idea so might as well check if Armenia is interested
French President Macron Seeks Invitation to BRICS Summit Amid Shifting Foreign Policy and Ukraine Conflict
French President Macron Seeks Invitation to BRICS Summit Amid Shifting Foreign Policy and Ukraine Conflict
French President Emmanuel Macron has reportedly asked South African President Cyril Ramaphosa for an invitation to the upcoming BRICS summit in Pretoria, a move that could signal a shift in France’s foreign policy amid the ongoing war in Ukraine.
According to French newspaper L’Opinion, Macron made the request during a phone call with Ramaphosa on June 3, 2023. The paper cited diplomatic sources as saying that Macron wanted to “exchange views” with the leaders of Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa, who are expected to meet in late July or early August for their 15th annual summit.
Macron’s interest in joining the BRICS summit comes at a time when France is facing increasing pressure from its NATO allies, especially the US and the UK, to take a tougher stance against Russia over its invasion of Ukraine. France has been reluctant to impose harsh sanctions on Moscow or to provide lethal weapons to Kyiv, fearing that it could escalate the conflict and damage its economic and strategic interests in Europe and Africa.
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Is it catholic patriarchy?
Probably Hindu brahmanical oppression.
Probably Hindu brahmanical oppression.
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Haresh please stay on topic. This has nothing to do with India-France relations.Haresh wrote:...
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speculation or credible source based input........
PM Modi may unveil Rafale-M deal on Bastille Day
PM Modi may unveil Rafale-M deal on Bastille Day
https://www.newindianexpress.com/nation ... 86665.htmlThe Indian Navy has expressed its preference for the deck-based French Rafale Marine over the F-18 Super Hornets of the US.
Prime Minister Narendra Modi is likely to announce a multi-billion dollar deal to acquire 26 Rafale Marine fighter jets during his visit to France. The Prime Minister will be in France on July 17 this year as the guest of honour at the Bastille Day parade.
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I didn't know where else to put it. They are quick to point fingers at others.nachiket wrote:Haresh please stay on topic. This has nothing to do with India-France relations.Haresh wrote:...
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https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/fr ... 023-06-30/
France riots: Public transport curtailed after rage over shooting
Dominique Vidalon, June 30, 2023
PARIS, June 30 (Reuters) - France asked all local authorities to halt public transport on Friday in a desperate attempt to restore order after rioters torched buildings and cars during a third night of rage sparked by the police shooting of a teenager.
Violence flared in the cities of Marseille, Lyon, Pau, Toulouse, Strasbourg and Lille as well as Paris where 17-year-old Nahel M. - of Algerian and Moroccan descent - was shot dead on Tuesday in the working class suburb of Nanterre.
His death, caught on video at a traffic stop, has ignited longstanding complaints among poor, racially mixed, urban communities of police violence and racism.
"The next hours will be decisive and I know I can count on your flawless efforts," Interior Minister Gerald Darmanin wrote to police officers and firefighters seeking to quell the unrest.
He asked local authorities to halt all bus and tram traffic from 9 p.m. (1900 GMT) across the whole of France.
With some 40,000 police officers deployed, more than 200 of them were injured and 875 people arrested overnight into Friday, authorities said. Buildings and vehicles were torched, and stores looted.
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Gautam
Also see:
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-66049895
https://www.npr.org/2023/06/30/11852684 ... -teens-kil
Also see the burning of Aasmani Qitab:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66052670
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/sw ... 023-06-28/
France riots: Public transport curtailed after rage over shooting
Dominique Vidalon, June 30, 2023
PARIS, June 30 (Reuters) - France asked all local authorities to halt public transport on Friday in a desperate attempt to restore order after rioters torched buildings and cars during a third night of rage sparked by the police shooting of a teenager.
Violence flared in the cities of Marseille, Lyon, Pau, Toulouse, Strasbourg and Lille as well as Paris where 17-year-old Nahel M. - of Algerian and Moroccan descent - was shot dead on Tuesday in the working class suburb of Nanterre.
His death, caught on video at a traffic stop, has ignited longstanding complaints among poor, racially mixed, urban communities of police violence and racism.
"The next hours will be decisive and I know I can count on your flawless efforts," Interior Minister Gerald Darmanin wrote to police officers and firefighters seeking to quell the unrest.
He asked local authorities to halt all bus and tram traffic from 9 p.m. (1900 GMT) across the whole of France.
With some 40,000 police officers deployed, more than 200 of them were injured and 875 people arrested overnight into Friday, authorities said. Buildings and vehicles were torched, and stores looted.
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Gautam
Also see:
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-66049895
https://www.npr.org/2023/06/30/11852684 ... -teens-kil
Also see the burning of Aasmani Qitab:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66052670
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/sw ... 023-06-28/