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India-France news

Postby Philip » 20 Apr 2017 12:54

The French elections take place this Sunday,with the winner yet to be clearly in sight. What will this do for India? Will a right/far fight candidate be more positive towards us instead of a Socialist/Left pres? Remember that France unlike the US,never imposed sanctions against us for our P-2 N-tests.In many respects the Gaullist doctrine and India's independent anti-bloc/NAM attitude have many similarities.

Scam tainted right winger,Francois Fillon (who has a Brit wife-sacre bleu!),accused of paying his wife and accepting lakhs of euros on the quiet,is reportedly making a late comeback says this report. This is also Marine Le Pen's best chance ever of winning as the other candidates are newcomers with no track record. The young French voter may have the final say.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... ntial-race
François Fillon moves back into contention in French presidential race
Polls suggest rightwing voters previously tempted by Macron and Le Pen may be returning to scandal-hit former PM

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ent-europe
Jean-Luc Mélenchon should be French president. Here’s why
Olivier Tonneau
Four days before the first round of the French presidential election, Europe is terrified by the prospect of a runoff between Marine Le Pen and Jean-Luc Mélenchon. Whoever wins, we are told, the wheat will grow thin, nuclear winter will fall over the continent, and frogs will rain down from the sky. Whatever differences there may be between the radical left and the far-right candidates, they mean nothing compared with their similarities: they are both Eurosceptic demagogues tapping into the base instincts of their compatriots.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... ntial-race
Le Pen and Macron woo Paris as French election enters final stretch
Just days before first round of voting in presidential race, polls show frontrunners not dead certs to face each other in runoff
The French presidential election’s two frontrunners held competing campaign rallies in Paris on Monday as one of the tightest and most unpredictable races in decades entered its final frantic stretch.

With polls suggesting any two of four candidates could make the runoff, centrist Emmanuel Macron packed out the 20,000-seat Bercy arena while the far-right’s Marine Le Pen addressed around 5,000 people at the Zenith concert hall later.

“Do you know what’s going to happen next Sunday?” Macron demanded of a cheering, Marseillaise-roaring crowd, the largest of his campaign so far. “We are going to win, and it will be the beginning of a new France.”

Emmanuel Macron gestures to the crowd at his campaign rally in Paris. Photograph: Benoît Tessier/Reuters
Despite his supporters’ confidence, however, the rollercoaster race has narrowed dramatically. Just days from Sunday’s first round of voting and with up to a third of the electorate still undecided, the result is wide open.

The latest polls show Macron and Le Pen clinging on to the narrowest of leads on 22% to 23%, while a late surge by the hard-left candidate Jean-Luc Mélenchon and scandal-hit rightwinger François Fillon appears to be holding, putting both on between 19% and 21%.

Le Pen cast the election as a decision between her “patriotism” and her opponents’ “savage globalisation”.
“The choice on Sunday is simple: It is a choice between a France that is rising again and a France that is sinking,” she said
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Re: India-France news

Postby Mukesh.Kumar » 20 Apr 2017 17:31

Why another thread. We have threads covering EU already.

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Postby Philip » 21 Apr 2017 13:50

EU too vast.France is mostly in the news of all EU countries.We have a sep. td for the UK.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... ps-elysees
Paris shooting: French police officer killed on Champs Élysé​e​s
Police say two other officers wounded and attacker shot dead in incident described by François Hollande as ‘terrorist in nature’
Champs Élysé​e​s shooting: French police officer killed in Paris – video report

Angelique Chrisafis in Paris and David Smith in Washington
Friday 21 April 2017 07.19 BST First published on Thursday 20 April 2017 20.47 BST
One policeman has been killed and two wounded in a shooting incident in central Paris, days before the first round of the French presidential election.

Pierre-Henry Brandet, of the French interior ministry, said the attacker opened fire on a police van on the Champs Élysées on Thursday night, killing one officer and seriously wounding two others. He said later that the wounded police officers’ lives were no longer in danger.

At about 9pm the man drove a car up to a parked police van full of officers. He got out of the car and fired an automatic weapon, killing one officer in the van, before shooting at others who were standing on the nearby pavement, injuring two before he was shot dead by police.

The French president, François Hollande, said the Champs Élysées attack was “terrorist in nature” and promised “utmost vigilance” by security services to ensure security around the presidential election. He has called a defence council meeting for 8am on Friday.

Islamic State claimed responsibility for the attack in a statement by the jihadi group’s propaganda agency Amaq. According to AFP, the statement said the attacker was one of the group’s “fighters” known as Abu Yussef, “the Belgian”. The statement offered no evidence to support the claim.

French police stand outside a branch of Hermès on the Champs Élysées
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French police stand outside a branch of Hermès on the Champs Élysées. Photograph: Ian Langsdon/EPA
France’s anti-terrorism prosecutor François Molins said that security officials had verified the attacker’s identity, although he did not release the name. Molins said that investigators were trying to determine whether the attacker had any accomplices.

Citing sources close to the inquiry, AFP said he was a 39-year-old who had been under investigation by anti-terrorist officers for having shown an intention to kill police. A police search was carried out at a home in Seine-et-Marne outside Paris.

AFP, Le Parisien and other news outlets reported that the attacker had been jailed in 2005 for the attempted murder of three police officers.

Authorities closed the Champs Élysées and the surrounding streets and called on the public to avoid the area, as a police helicopter flew low over central Paris.

A police source told AFP a tourist had been “slightly injured” by a shard of bullet that struck her knee during the shooting.

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Re: India-France news

Postby IndraD » 23 Apr 2017 23:35

80% turnout in France elections; Mcron could be leading followed by LePen. In case of no majority a thugbandhan....

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Postby Santosh » 24 Apr 2017 01:13

Le Pen seems to have favourable views on India. She thinks that the new world belongs to visionaries like Zee, Putin and Modi. Nato type policies to subjugate rest of the world will not work. She wants to pull France closer to Russia, and away from Nato.That was an interesting read.

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Re: India-France news

Postby Atmavik » 24 Apr 2017 01:23

IndraD wrote:80% turnout in France elections; Mcron could be leading followed by LePen. In case of no majority a thugbandhan....


the leaders will face a run off..

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Re: India-France news

Postby KJo » 24 Apr 2017 01:26

I have no idea of the players. Who would be best for India (in any way?) Who is anti-Jihad and who is for GUBOing to Muslim immigrants?

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Postby Atmavik » 24 Apr 2017 01:30

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkZir1L7fSY

French Election by John Oliver( he is a Brit Comedian)

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Re: India-France news

Postby NRao » 24 Apr 2017 01:40

Mukesh.Kumar wrote:Why another thread. We have threads covering EU already.

IB4TL


And depending on who wins, there may not be an EU.

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Re: India-France news

Postby ramana » 24 Apr 2017 10:47

Correct.

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Re: India-France news

Postby ramana » 24 Apr 2017 10:48

KJo wrote:I have no idea of the players. Who would be best for India (in any way?) Who is anti-Jihad and who is for GUBOing to Muslim immigrants?



The anti globalist is our person.

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Re: India-France news

Postby Singha » 24 Apr 2017 11:26

time to slay the EU pig :) it let a lot of small fry punch way above their weight and become part of the hunting back and lecture others.

fragmentation will cut them down to size

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Re: India-France news

Postby Singha » 24 Apr 2017 11:27

the current PM hollande has a 4% approval rating

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Re: India-France news

Postby IndraD » 24 Apr 2017 12:56

French election results: Emmanuel Macron wins first-round vote http://www.smh.com.au/world/macron-wins ... vqwex.html
LePen and Macron in run off..
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Postby Philip » 24 Apr 2017 12:58

Great result for France,a veritable revolution,complete break with the "ancien regimes"! The Socialist "fiddler",Fillon,who "kept" (pun intended) his British wife's pockets full of state largesse,has bitten the dust.So too has the Left's dark horse who made a creditable late run,but "also ran"! :rotfl:

But Marine has a real tough job on her hands with the inexperienced,never-won-an-election-before Macaroon. The beauty of Macaroon is that nobody knows anything about him ,a man with little experiene,xcpt. under disgraced Hollande,and therein lies his appeal,

If Marine wants to win ,she must label him a "fifth columnist",tainted as part of Hollande's disastrous presidency,bearing nothing new,no worthwhile experience with his brand new party,and will be a "sheep in wolf's clothing".M.Macaroon,tasty morsel to vote for it may be,whose political menu and policies will prove to be indigestible to the French once in power,offering stale croissants ,pomme-de-terre and Brussels' sprouts ,instead of haute cuisine France is famous for. Which "chef" will the French choose? Right now,M.Macaroon has the advantage,but there' still time for Marine to make a charge like Jeanne-d'Arc!

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 98191.html
French election: Marine Le Pen wins through to final presidential showdown against Emmanuel Macron
Defeated conservative candidate urges his supporters to back former Socialist minister against Front National leader

Claire Sergent, Chloe Farand Hénin-Beaumont
Marine Le Pen has made it through to the final round of the French presidential election.

With almost all of the 47 million ballots counted, the leader of the far-right Front National (FN) had secured 21.6 per cent of the vote. She will face centrist Emmanuel Macron, the former Socialist minister who set up his own party to run for president. He won the first round with about 23.8 per cent.

Mr Macron is now the clear favourite to triumph in the second, and final, round in two weeks, according to polls.

Who is Marine Le Pen and what happens if the Front National wins?
The vote marks the end of a political era with the two major parties, the Socialists and centre-right Les Republicains, which have traditionally been the pillars of France's political arena, both being eliminated in the first round.

Conservative Francois Fillon was on just under 20 per cent of the vote, marginally ahead of far-left candidate Jean-Luc Melenchon on 19.5 per cent. Socialist candidate Benoit Hamon was set to pick up an historically low 6.3 per cent.

Emmanuel Macron takes to the stage after the first results of the election were announced (AP)
According to the latest polling about voters' intentions in the second round, Mr Macron is forecast to beat Ms Le Pen by 62 per cent to 38 per cent, with many political figures quick to join the 'anyone but Le Pen camp'.

Conceding defeat, Mr Fillon asked his supporters to back Mr Macron in the second round of voting on 7 May, urging them to keep Ms Le Pen away from the presidency.

"Despite all my efforts, my determination, I have not succeeded in convincing my fellow countrymen and women. The obstacles in my path were too numerous and too cruel. This defeat is mine, I accept the responsibility, it is mine and mine alone to bear," Mr Fillon told his supporters.

"Extremism can only bring unhappiness and division to France. There is no other choice than to vote against the far right. I will vote for Emmanuel Macron. I consider it my duty to tell you this frankly. It is up to you to reflect on what is best for your country, and for your children."

As for Mr Melenchon, he said he would not endorse any candidate for the second round.

Mr Macron said the vote showed that the election meant "turning a page in French political history" and that he wanted to gather "the largest possible support" before the run-off.

The frontrunner called for hope in Europe in stark contrast to Ms Le Pen, who campaigned to leave the European Union (EU).

Mr Macron said the EU would have to be reformed and revived with a project "which protects" and offers a place to every French citizen.

Addressing her supporters in the town of Hénin-Baumont, an FN stronghold, Ms Le Pen said the first hurdle towards the Elysée Palace had been overcome.

She hailed the results as “historic” and warned “the survival of French civilisation” was now at stake.

European leaders made clear who they wanted the next French president to be.

A spokesman for European Commission chief Jean-Claude Juncker, Margaritis Schinas, tweeted that Mr Juncker had congratulated Mr Macron and wished him good luck for the second round.

German Foreign Minister Sigmar Gabriel also welcomed the success of Mr Macron and said he was sure the centrist would become the next French president.

Mr Gabriel tweeted: "Felicitations a @EmmanuelMacron. Vive la France, vive l'Europe!"
In an usual move, Mr Gabriel said he would continue to do all he could to support Mr Macron.

Mr Gabriel said: "He was the only really pro-European candidate who didn't hide behind stereotypes about Europe. I'm certain that he will put right-wing radicalism, right-wing populism and anti-Europeans in their place in the second round."

His comments were echoed by Martin Schultz, the Social Democrat who will challenge Angela Merkel in Germany's federal election in September. He said he hoped Mr Macron would win the second round with a broad majority to defeat the "anti-European and openly racist candidate Marine Le Pen".

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Macron supporters celebrating the results (AP)
Gunther Krichbaum, a member of Ms Merkel's conservatives and the head of the parliamentary European affairs committee, said Mr Macron's results were "a valuable sign" for German-French cooperation. He also said he was alarmed that the combined projected votes of Ms Le Pen and Mr Melenchon, who are both critical of European integration, totaled about 40 per cent.

Downing Street told The Independent it would not comment on the results.

It is the second time the FN has made it to the final round of a presidential election after the party’s founder Jean-Marie Le Pen went head to head with conservative Jacques Chirac in 2002.

Supporters of Ms Le Pen were quick to hail her at the hall where she gave a speech celebrating the fact she made it through. The packed crowd waved flags and shouting "We will win!"

Quentin Leclerc, 22, a history student said: “Marine Le Pen is making history after Brexit [and] Donald Trump.

“The second round is another battle but we are prepared."

Michèle Lojanne, who came with her 16-year-old son, said: “Really happy she is in the second round."

Louise-Marie Le Maire, 50 and unemployed, said it was “a pity that she is not first but the right wing takes a slap".

Marion Maréchal Le Pen, Marine’s niece and a FN MP called Ms Le Pen’s progression to the second round run-off “a historic victory for patriots and sovereignists”.

In Paris, others were not so happy. Police fired tear gas on the Place de la Bastille in eastern Paris as crowds of young people, some from anarchist and anti-fascist groups, gathered to protest at Ms Le Pen’s second-place finish and her anti-immigrant policies. They were a number of arrests

The fact that results are so close to end of the count is unsurprising given it was one of the most open election campaigns in recent memory with four candidates all in with a chance of progressing according to the polls before election day.

“Very interesting election currently taking place in France,” tweeted the US President Donald Trump, who has previously spoken of his admiration for strict anti-immigrant security measures proposed by Ms Le Pen. It was perhaps the understatement of the day.


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Who is Emmanuel Macron, favourite to become France's next president?
The presidential poll was the first to be held during a state of emergency, put in place since the Paris attacks of November 2015. More than 50,000 police and gendarmes were deployed to the 66,000 polling stations across the country.

Among the first of the candidates to step out earlier in the day was Ms Le Pen, who cast her vote at the Jacques Rousseau primary school in Hénin-Beaumont, the town she would celebrate in later.

Situated in the Nord-Pas-de-Calais region, a stronghold for her party, there was a heavy police presence at the polling station and the roads around the school were closed.

Shortly before her arrival however, topless demonstrators from the Femen activist group were detained at the polling station after jumping out of an SUV limo wearing masks of Ms Le Pen and Mr Trump.

Elsewhere a voting station in eastern French town of Besancon was evacuated after reports of a suspicious vehicle.

Interior Ministry spokesman Pierre-Henry Brandet said that explosives experts examined the car, but they deemed there to be no risk.

Turnout was just under 80 per cent across the country, but given the close nature of the result, and the fact that polls suggested around 20 per cent of voters could abstain from voting, Ms Le Pen was not the only candidate receiving support among voters in Hénin-Beaumont,

Arlette, 79 and retired, told The Independent she has always lived in Hénin-Beaumont but was considering not voting “after the show the 11 candidates put on during the campaign”. But in the end she turned out to vote for Marine Le Pen. Robert, another retiree, came to greet her. He was also going to vote but said he was “sickened”, because it was always “the same speech, the same system” offered by the main contenders. To try to change things, he said, he would vote “for a small candidate” - the trade unionist Philippe Poutou.

Justine, 26, a cashier who has never voted before, decided to give her support to Marine Le Pen. She made her choice because of the terrorist threat that hangs over France, she said. “If she [Le Pen] can do what she said she would concerning the 'fichés S' (a terrorist threat register) and to control borders, it would be a good thing,” she said. Jérémy, 37, also voted Marine Le Pen to “block Macron and Mélenchon”.

However, with Mr Macron and Ms Le Pen having make it through to the final round, whoever wins will face difficulties even after the 7 May run-off.

Parliamentary elections are to be held in June, with the make up of the MPs in the lower house set to determine how the winner of the election can govern. Mr Macron, who will be fielding candidates from his new En Marche! movement, will need quite a board coalition, while Ms Le Pen will want to see an increase on the current two FN MPs, but she may find herself stymied when it comes to trying to form a majority.

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Re: India-France news

Postby IndraD » 24 Apr 2017 12:59

Rub Off is a voting method used to elect a single winner, where the voter casts a single vote for their chosen candidate. France, Russia many other countries use it.

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Re: India-France news

Postby Singha » 24 Apr 2017 13:55

Another trudeau type wunderkinder...

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Postby IndraD » 24 Apr 2017 15:30

France is going to have president from two unknowns interesting times ahead, and only shows how much main stream politics is not trusted.

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Re: India-France news

Postby IndraD » 24 Apr 2017 15:38

Neither right nor left type pf politics has no place in current circumstances and if Macron (likely to win) practices that he is doomed. He is business man married to a lady 25 years senior to him. He has been accused of being Gay in past.

How he plans to make 'France great again'
How does he want to change France?

Unveiling his manifesto in March, Mr Macron said he hoped to entice British business and banks to relocate to Paris, promising a substantial reduction in corporation tax to 25pc from its current 33.3pc.

More Blair than Thatcher, staunch Europhile Mr Macron has pledged to reduce public spending by €60bn and cut 120,000 public sector jobs.

He has also vowed to get tough on unemployment benefits for those who repeatedly turned down job offers and wants greater flexibility on the retirement age, currently 60, and the statutory 35-hour working week, allowing employers and staff more latitude to negotiate.

In a headline-grabbing sweetener, he said 80pc of households would be exonerated from a property tax known as the "taxe d’habitation", which is comparable to council tax.

He also plans a €50bn public investment programme on green energy, training of tradesmen to reduce youth unemployment, transport, public sector administration and justice.

He wants more freedom for school governance and has suggested checks on the competence of government ministers and more proportional representation.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/emman ... dependent/

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Postby Singha » 24 Apr 2017 18:43

Twitter rumours of the rothschilds being behind his rise..

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Postby tushar_m » 24 Apr 2017 19:00

Singha wrote:time to slay the EU pig :) it let a lot of small fry punch way above their weight and become part of the hunting back and lecture others.



+ 1000000000

same thought

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X-Post....
IndraD wrote:MCD Election 2017: Arvind Kejriwal will see failure to live up to a big idea in France's Emmanuel Macron's rise

On Sunday, the people of France and voters of Delhi made diametrically opposite decisions about men who could have once been separated at birth. While the people of Delhi rejected Arvind Kejriwal and his AAP, the French put Emmanuel Macron, a man who represents the kind of change Kejriwal once promised, at the front of the presidential race.

Delhi Chief Minister Arvind Kejriwal. PTIDelhi Chief Minister Arvind Kejriwal. PTI
Ironically, while the Kejriwal era in Indian politics may have ended in India on 23 March, the politics of another aam aadmi, a rank outsider, may have just begun in France. Macron, a 39-year-old centrist, emerged on top after the first round of polls in France featuring 11 candidates. He will now compete with far-right leader Marine Le Pen, who was second in the run-off, in the next round. The contest is being billed as an election that may define the future of not just France but of entire Europe.

Macron has, like Kejriwal once upon a time, emerged as a symbol of rejection of established politicians and the two main political groups — the Socialists and the Republicans--without whose support it was considered impossible to win an election in France. Like the incumbent Congress government in Delhi was wiped out in 2013, the Socialist candidate trailed in the fifth position in the first round.

Six months ago, when Macron launched his campaign, pollsters were not willing to give him even an outside chance. Macron, a former banker, had never held an elected office prior to jumping in the fray for the top job in France. But, his political movement En Marche! (On the Move), slowly caught the fancy of the French voters, pitting him against Le Pen, who represents everything that Macron seems to reject— exit from Eurozone, Donald Trump-like restrictions on immigrants, xenophobia and virulent nationalism.

Like the AAP, Macron's rise began with a massive movement to reach out to people disillusioned by established parties and ideologies. Before he announced his candidature, Macron reached out to thousands of voters to find out what policies and politics they wanted. Sounds familiar, no? Reminds us of the rise of the AAP from the Lokpal movement, Delhi dialogue and the disenchantment with archetypical politics? Unfortunately, its pioneer in India is staring at the end of his political road.

Exit poll after Sunday's municipal elections for Delhi indicates Kejriwal's AAP may be wiped out. Some pollsters suggest it will trail in the third place with just about ten percent seats in the three municipalities. It will be a dramatic reversal of fortunes from 2014 when the AAP won 67 seats in the 70-member Delhi Assembly. Why did Kejriwal fail on a day the French expressed their faith in a brand of politics AAP once promised? The answer is simple: Kejriwal failed to live up to expectations. Now, in deference to the idea that hell hath no fury like a voter scorned, people are seeking revenge.

http://www.firstpost.com/world/mcd-elec ... 01606.html



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Six months ago, when Macron launched his campaign, pollsters were not willing to give him even an outside chance. Macron, a former banker, had never held an elected office prior to jumping in the fray for the top job in France. But, his political movement En Marche! (On the Move), slowly caught the fancy of the French voters, pitting him against Le Pen, who represents everything that Macron seems to reject— exit from Eurozone, Donald Trump-like restrictions on immigrants, xenophobia and virulent nationalism.

Like the AAP, Macron's rise began with a massive movement to reach out to people disillusioned by established parties and ideologies. Before he announced his candidature, Macron reached out to thousands of voters to find out what policies and politics they wanted. Sounds familiar, no? Reminds us of the rise of the AAP from the Lokpal movement, Delhi dialogue and the disenchantment with archetypical politics? Unfortunately, its pioneer in India is staring at the end of his political road.


I haven't followed French politics closely. Is Macron France's Fordiwal, if you catch my drift?



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JohnTitor wrote:^^ The comparison is rubbish. While they both may have promised the moon, the indian version is a traitor willing to sell the nation off. The French version is just a trump type guy

French version is Turdeau type guy yes goras are quite loyal to their nation in general! LePen is Trump type.

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http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/04/20/fra ... vs-corbyn/
France’s Election Is Trump vs. Merkel vs. Modi vs. Corbyn
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National identity, nationalized economy - Trump?, Le Pen
Cosmopolitan identity, nationalized economy - Corbyn?, Melenchon
National identity, globalized economy - Modi?, Fillon
Cosmopolitan identity, globalized economy - Merkel?, Macron

In practice, apart from the western press's "Hindu nationalist party" and the intermittent violence in India - which is probably happening despite Modi and not because of him - I'd put Modi as closer to a cosmopolitan identity type - he has not blocked Rohingya refugees from Jammu; he is "sabka saath, sabka vikas", he has not acted on the more strident Hindutva agenda (Mandir, UCC, etc.).

Based on this, and since Fillon is no longer in the race, Macron is best for India.

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Re: India-France news

Postby Will » 25 Apr 2017 01:36

Wonder if India is still talking to France about Barracuda tech for our planned SSN's.

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Re: India-France news

Postby ramana » 25 Apr 2017 01:46

Interesting how they drag NaMo name in all their petty fights.

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Re: India-France news

Postby UlanBatori » 25 Apr 2017 06:41

Seems to me like the Frogistani race is between Adolf and Bruning. Or Kerensky and Lenin. Merkel, Marine, May: When shall we 3 meet again etc. Or
This continent ain't big enuf for the 3 of us

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Re: India-France news

Postby Philip » 25 Apr 2017 11:43

I wish Marine wins.We could then have the perfect witches coven of Merkel,May and Marine what?!
"Double,double,toil and trouble,fire burn and cauldron bubble .."

But alas,M.Macaroon appears to be the sweet pastry that the French will bite into. Macaroon has a bloated ego as his party's initials EM (En Marche),mirror his own! With no MPs at all in his instant party,he's roping in has-been centre-right grandees and even Socialists! Fat hange will eventually arrive for the poor French proles.


Le Pen attacks Macron as France's mainstream rallies behind him
Front National leader accuses centrist rival of being weak on terror as she temporarily steps aside as head of party

Jon Henley European affairs correspondent
Monday 24 April 2017
Far-right French presidential candidate, Marine Le Pen, has attacked her centrist rival Emmanuel Macron, suggesting he is a “hysterical, radical Europeanist” who is weak on jihadi terror.

Her tirade came as the country’s demoralised mainstream parties threw their weight behind her opponent on the first day of campaigning for the presidential runoff on 7 May.

Announcing she was stepping aside temporarily from the presidency of the Front National to be “above partisan considerations” and devote herself to the race for the Elysée, Le Pen said of Macron: “He is for total open borders. He says there is no such thing as French culture. There is not one area where he shows one ounce of patriotism.”

Le Pen finished second to the former investment banker in the first round vote on Sunday. In a symbolic gesture aimed at underlining the idea that the president of France should represent the whole country, not just their party, she told France 2 television she was now “no longer the president of the Front National. I am the candidate for the French presidency.”

Politicians from the Socialist and Les Républicains parties – the mainstream centre-left and centre-right groups that have dominated French politics for decades, but found themselves shut out by voters – united on Monday to urge the country to back Macron and reject Le Pen’s populist, anti-EU and anti-immigration nationalism.

The outgoing president, François Hollande, said he would vote for Macron, his former economy minister, because Le Pen represented “both the danger of the isolation of France and of rupture with the EU”. A far-right president would “deeply divide France”, he said. “Faced with such a risk, it is not possible to … take refuge in indifference.”

Only the defeated far-left candidate, Jean-Luc Mélenchon, pointedly refused to endorse Macron, saying he needed to consult his base first.

Le Pen’s aim in temporarily stepping aside from her party’s presidency is to appeal to the supporters of losing first-round candidates, particularly some of those who backed the conservative François Fillon, who finished third, and the minor rightwinger Nicolas Dupont-Aignan.

She had “always considered the president of France as the president of all of the French people, who must unite all of the French people”, she said. The move would allow her more freedom to “change certain aspects of her project and rally support”, party sources told Le Monde.

Macron, 39, who founded his En Marche! movement only this time last year and has never held elected office, became the clear favourite to become France’s youngest president after winning 24.01% of the vote, ahead of Le Pen’s 21.3%. Polls have consistently predicted Macron would win a head-to-head contest between the two by up to 25 points.

Le Pen leapt on the string of endorsements for Macron to paint him as the candidate of a discredited political establishment, attacking the “rotten old republican front” of centre-left and centre-right parties that have aligned to keep the FN from power whenever it has come close to it.

“I’ve come here to start the second round campaign in the only way I know, on the ground with the French people,” she said on a visit to a market in the northern town of Rouvroy. She wanted to draw the French people’s attention to “important subjects including Islamist terrorism, on which Mr Macron is, to say the least, weak,” she said.

Marine Le Pen steps aside from Front National leadership
France has suffered a series of terror attacks by violent jihadis over the past two years that have left 239 people dead. A policeman was shot dead and two more seriously wounded in a shooting on the Champs Élysées less than 72 hours before Sunday’s vote. Islamic State claimed responsibility for the attack.

Macron’s upbeat, internationalist vision of a tolerant France and a stronger, united Europe with open borders is in stark contrast to Le Pen’s French-first policies which aim to suspend the EU’s open border agreement on France’s frontiers, expel foreigners on intelligence service watchlists, restore the franc and possibly leave the EU.

Emmanuel Macron talks to journalists after the first round of the presidential election. Photograph: Geoffroy van der Hasselt/AFP/Getty Images
Macron drew early criticism on Monday after spending Sunday evening with supporters and En Marche! activists at the well-known – but not upmarket – La Rotonde brasserie in Paris.

“We need to be humble. The election hasn’t been won and we need to bring people together to win,” Richard Ferrand, the movement’s secretary general, said.

Le Pen, whose father, Jean-Marie, reached the 2002 presidential election runoff, gained 1.2 million new voters compared with her 2012 presidential bid. Louis Aliot, a Front National vice-president, said she offered an alternative for patriots, adding he was “not convinced the French are willing to sign a blank cheque for Mr Macron”.

The euro and European stock markets rose and France’s main share index hit its highest level since early 2008 on Monday as investors bet on Macron becoming president. Relieved politicians including the German chancellor, Angela Merkel, wished him well.

Merkel’s chief of staff, Peter Altmaier, tweeted that the win for Macron showed “France AND Europe can win together! The centre is stronger than the populists think!”

In a highly unusual gesture during an ongoing campaign, the European commission president, Jean-Claude Juncker, also welcomed the first round result. The commission’s spokesman, Margaritis Schinas, said the choice “was a fundamental one” since Macron represented pro-EU values while Le Pen “seeks its destruction”.

The conservative Le Républicains candidate Fillon won just under 20%, marginally ahead of Mélenchon. He was the favourite until January when his campaign was hit by allegations that he had given his British-born wife, Penelope, a fake job as his parliamentary assistant.

The official Socialist party candidate, Benoît Hamon, got just 6%. “We are in a phase of decomposition, demolition, deconstruction,” said the former Socialist prime minister Manuel Valls. “We didn’t do the intellectual, ideological or political work on what the left is and we paid the price.”

Valls pledged his support to Macron, saying: “We must help him as much as we can to ensure Le Pen is kept as low as possible.”

Whichever candidate wins in the second round on 7 May will need to try to build a majority five weeks later in parliamentary elections. The Front National has only two members in the French national assembly and En Marche! none, although Macron has enlisted about 50 sitting Socialists and several centre-right grandees.

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Re: India-France news

Postby ramana » 25 Apr 2017 22:41

Philip, The French angst is about the Islamist takeover of France public space. Right near Eiffel Tower there were posters banning face covering for any visitor/citizen. This was against the hijab. I posted on twitter.
That is what propelled Le Pen.
The mainstream wants to enable that.

So be ready for a surprise either way.

France stays or EU stays!!!

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Re: India-France news

Postby ramana » 25 Apr 2017 22:43

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Re: India-France news

Postby JE Menon » 25 Apr 2017 23:28

In my opinion, Macron will win by a slightly bigger margin than expected. Marine Le Pen's star will not fade, but she will have to revisit some of her stridency in terms of the EU. She has the French pulse right on the immigration issue, but not quite on the EU I think.

BTW, for those who don't know, Macron's wife is 25 years older than him (I think older than his mother). She was his teacher in high school. Will make for an interesting presidency. But don't expect Trudeau redux.

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Re: India-France news

Postby UlanBatori » 26 Apr 2017 00:59

Tres interesting! What odds is Comrade Putin's Syndicate offering I wonder - the modern day Steggles of Wooster / PG Wodehouse fame. :mrgreen:

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Re: India-France news

Postby Suraj » 26 Apr 2017 01:09

I agree with JEM. Le Pen gets it on the immigration stance, but not on the EU stance. France is still quite pro EU. Le Pen can win if she talks just immigration, while Macron simultaneously refuses to take on the topic directly in the lead up to Phase 2.

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Re: India-France news

Postby ramana » 26 Apr 2017 01:54

France is pro EU as they think that will keep Germany in check. *

However Germany is EU now!!!!!

* In fact in 1992, France insisted that Germany financially back the Euro as a precondition to German Unification.
Germany agreed and we are here now with Germany as the Master of Europe upending a thousand years of European politics.

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Re: India-France news

Postby Suraj » 26 Apr 2017 03:38

France doesn't fear German supremacy within EU as much as it loathes losing its status as the big two of EU (previously big 3 but UK shot itself in the head),

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Re: India-France news

Postby Philip » 26 Apr 2017 10:12

The parliamentary elections immediately after the Pres. election will really tell who has the bragging rights in France. Marine appears to be popular with the poorest section of the populace,who've lost out to EU interests and immigrants.Just like Britain. So even if she loses,a strong showing in the Parl. vote will see the NF get a foothold on the reins of power.

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Re: India-France news

Postby JE Menon » 08 May 2017 10:51

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For the record.

Le Pen's mistake was messing about with the EU structure. That was what those huge absgtention numbers were about primarily, in my opinion. These Europeans non-crazy right-wingers should hire me as a political advisor to nuance their positions to just right. They get carried away with populism, and forget they are there for the country and "all the people".

Learn from how well Modi does it.

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Re: India-France news

Postby Karthik S » 08 May 2017 11:07

I am not aware of French politics much, but is Macron's win good for India? We still have strategic dealings with France such as Rafale, nuke power plants.

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Re: India-France news

Postby JE Menon » 08 May 2017 11:40

Standard programming will continue shortly...after he takes over. Expect no fundamental changes. Perhaps some positive optics in the near term.

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Re: India-France news

Postby Philip » 08 May 2017 13:47

So M.Macaroon has triumphed.Clever man,offering the French old wine in a new bottle and has he duped them! Hos youth obviously a factor with French youth.He was a veteran Socialist,Fin Min in dear M.'ollande's cabinet, who is now promising the French the equiv of new "snake-oil" for their eco pains. France's eco woes are v.deep-rooted,with a large % of the populace unwilling to work hard ,thanks to decades of largesse from the Socialist/Left combine. Sarko blew it and the man whom everyone expected to become Pres. ,the former head of the IMF,Dom. Strauss-Khan,"blew it" or was he given a "blow-job" by Fr. intel working on Sarko's behalf,apart from that hotel housemaid? That scandal brought him to his knees,instead of it usually being the other way round with him,he!he!

Nevertheless,Le Pen has made a huge victory of sorts with 1/3rd of the French supporting her.That's many millions and in parliamentary elections to come,could give her a huge no of MPs. Millions of Frenchmen don't want to be the garbage dump of the Middle East....and having to pay for the permanent stink too!

Remember de Gaulle's famous quote about the difficulty of governing a nation which had so many cheeses?
Enjoy these quotes about the French!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comedy/what- ... ce-french/
'How can you govern a country which has 246 varieties of cheese?': 40 funny quotes about France and the French

Just a few:
"France is the only place where you can make love in the afternoon without people hammering on your door!"
Barbara cartland.

The French are wiser than they seem and the Spaniards seem wiser than they are.
Francis Bacon

Who can help loving the land that has taught us 685 ways to dress eggs?
Thomas Moore.

There are only two places where we can live happily.At home and in Paris.
Hemingway.

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Re: India-France news

Postby A_Gupta » 08 May 2017 17:31

Some Macron quotes:



“The French are not Islamophobic, but radical Islam is scary.”

“Secularism is at the heart of the French national pact. It is a principle of freedom which allows, in public space and republican fraternity, living together in the respect of one another. The republic must allow everyone to live in the intensity of their convictions, as long as doing so does not interfere with the convictions of others or with established rules.”

“At least two-thirds of Muslim women do not wear the veil, and French Muslims are more interested in the social issue than in identity issues. … Too many Frenchmen confuse secularism and the prohibition of religious manifestations — and some make this confusion their business.”

“We will make France a land of experimentation, where it will be simpler and faster to experiment with new industrial solutions.”


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