Thakur_B wrote:Her e-visa had been cancelled. She claims she didn't see it because she was out of office.Bart S wrote:
She claimed that her visa was valid till Oct 2020 and I haven't seen that statement being denied or countered anywhere. What probably happened was that she was denied entry due to her nefarious activities.
Yes. The other Indian consulate is in Houston, TX.UlanBatori wrote:Pretty sure it was 'Frisco CA a.k.a "The City" (of Fruits an Nuts). Back circa 2003/04 IIRC.mappunni wrote:Goat herder ji you got me confoosed. Thought that was Frisco TX
Typically no, airlines don't necessarily have access to immigration databases from their checkin systems. They can scan the visa and store the details after validating visa requirement and visa expiration date, but that's it.chanakyaa wrote:One technical pooch. Does EM has the ability to electronically check validity of desi bija in Dubai? Looks like bija was cancelled by email...
Abhishek Singhvi @DrAMSinghvi
The deportation of Debbie Abrahams by India was indeed necessary, as she is not just an MP, but a Pak proxy known for her clasp with e Pak govt and ISI. Every attempt that tries to attack India's sovereignty must be thwarted.
Please include sources/links also.nvishal wrote:She and her colleague(a sikh man) left India to Dubai. From there they caught a plane to Pakistan.
at least getting a visa of pakistan malaysia, and turkey wont be a problem in future. So that she can pander to her audience as much as she likes..I am very happy at the way this incidence played out...even better than i thought at this time...on a lighter note she might be missing or left out from the free chai biskut and shikara rides that some EU representatives were given last week..so thats why she made it a point to fly there...if it were to me..i would take her to places where she realizes truly experiences the peace, beauty and love of the constituency she was playing for...Suraj wrote:Being deported from one country rarely ends the problem there - it impacts future visa applications to other places too.
Captain! Welcome to Maoristan!
Please come and sit here. Inside this nice big warm pot where we have prepared your bath-water!
UlanBatoriji,UlanBatori wrote:A vija stamp from Terroristan on her passport ends her plans to vijit Usa and give advice on how to run THAT former colony, what what I say? Unless she wants to spend 4 hours in "augmented enhanced vetting" at port of entry.
Reminds me of when an ishtudant (desi) came to me laughing about how Professor X (British-origin, US citjen) told her he was amazed: Had just found out that he would need a VISA to visit India, what-what!!
I told her that he might not be aware that India is not a British Colony. And explained how the Maoris welcomed Captain Cook when he visited without a visa - and how he got the honorary (postthumous) name Captain Cook.Captain! Welcome to Maoristan!
Please come and sit here. Inside this nice big warm pot where we have prepared your bath-water!
What is ‘formal deportation’ vs ‘informal’ ? Never heard any such distinction.yensoy wrote:I doubt she got formally deported since she didn't enter the country anyway.
Further, she was issued an e-Business visa . She claims in her interviews that she was trying to visit family . She has basically added one more charge of fraud by admitting to misuse of visa . She was supposed to apply for e-Visitor visa . It may seem like a minor distinction but it matters a great deal to immigration . If you show up in US with B1 business visa and say you're visiting friends (B2 visitor visa basis), TSA bolis comes to haul you away and you get sent back after interrogation. The fundamental reason for this is that you LIED about the reason for your trip in visa application.yensoy wrote:I won't be surprised if she booked her ticket to India right after his visa rejection thinking that she could slip through.
Granting or not Granting a Visa is a right held by Individual countries and India has every right to reject Visa to any US, British or Aussie citizen on any basis.Lisa wrote:UlanBatoriji,UlanBatori wrote:A vija stamp from Terroristan on her passport ends her plans to vijit Usa and give advice on how to run THAT former colony, what what I say? Unless she wants to spend 4 hours in "augmented enhanced vetting" at port of entry.
Reminds me of when an ishtudant (desi) came to me laughing about how Professor X (British-origin, US citjen) told her he was amazed: Had just found out that he would need a VISA to visit India, what-what!!
I told her that he might not be aware that India is not a British Colony. And explained how the Maoris welcomed Captain Cook when he visited without a visa - and how he got the honorary (postthumous) name Captain Cook.
Just for you. How rights are established!
India's visa rule is unfairly persecuting innocent Pakistanis
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... pakistanis
India's visa policy is affecting British businesses and universities
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... tani-orgin
That is because of presumption of guilt vs innocence.bhavani wrote:Granting or not Granting a Visa is a right held by Individual countries and India has every right to reject Visa to any US, British or Aussie citizen on any basis.
I have seen US visa officers reject Student Visas just because they had a hunch or feeling that the candidate was being dishonest. No proof, just a Hunch.
I don't recommend these shows, unless its for schadenfreude at treating them the same. They're carefully curated examples of self aggrandizement by UKBA, DHS or whatever immigration control agency is involved, where the agency is always doing its job in a perfect manner, far removed from reality.srin wrote:I recommend watching "UK Border Force" tv series on Youtube on how the Bartania treats the people coming there.
Needs to go on social mediaLisa wrote:Also please be seeing lady in red shawl. She looks remarkably like..........a certain complaining visaless UK wali MP.
https://www.phclondon.org/infodiv/press ... minar.aspx
Mid 1980s, all commonwealth countries provided this facility to each other. When did that change?Lisa wrote: An Indian traveller CANNOT apply for a visa upon landing in the UK.
Can you prove this claim ?Vayutuvan wrote:Mid 1980s, all commonwealth countries provided this facility to each other. When did that change?Lisa wrote: An Indian traveller CANNOT apply for a visa upon landing in the UK.
Thank goodness rule endedg.sarkar wrote:Lisaji,
Against such blatant racism by Indians on British citizens of Pak descent, UK immigration has been uniformly fair to the Indian. Why they even made sure that Indian husbands were getting "pure" brides from India by applying a virginity test on them. No hymen, no visa. Can you beat that?
Gautam
Yes. I visited London from The Netherlands in 1983 or 1984 summer. The company I was consulting at gave me and a colleague a bonus of all expenses paid weekend to either London or Paris. We chose London. We had only Benelux visa and would have had to get a visa for France which was not possible in short time.Suraj wrote:Can you prove this claim ?Vayutuvan wrote: Mid 1980s, all commonwealth countries provided this facility to each other. When did that change?
yes i read that too...while the rule was only there for some time and was only applied to limited cases..it must be archived and told to every indian student of foreign policy to remind of the generosity we have extended by lack of our acrinomy towards these guysg.sarkar wrote:Lisaji,
Against such blatant racism by Indians on British citizens of Pak descent, UK immigration has been uniformly fair to the Indian. Why they even made sure that Indian husbands were getting "pure" brides from India by applying a virginity test on them. No hymen, no visa. Can you beat that?
Gautam
Confirmation in the link on that page:Lisa wrote:Also please be seeing lady in red shawl. She looks remarkably like..........a certain complaining visaless UK wali MP.
https://www.phclondon.org/infodiv/press ... minar.aspx
For a white lady, she could pass off as being more Paki than the PakisWe, President AJ&K, Sardar Masood Khan, Baroness Sayeeda Warsi, Lord QurbanHussain, Debbie Abrahams MP, Yasmin Qureshi MP, Afzal Khan MP, Naz Shah MP, Muhammad Yasin MP, Ben Emmerson QC, John Howarth, Phil Bennion, Professor Nazir Shawl, Cllr & NEC Member Yasmin Dar and other participants of this seminar express resolve to continue with efforts to redress the human rights situation in Jammu & Kashmir, in particular, and sustainable resolution of the outstanding dispute.
(I mean Paki not in the Britshit racist sense but the far more derogatory literal sense).Thanks. Your experience is quite far removed from the original claim though. Your description implies you were let in on a discretionary basis due to proven business ties to Benelux. That's not the same as general permissibility.Vayutuvan wrote:Yes. I visited London from The Netherlands in 1983 or 1984 summer. The company I was consulting at gave me and a colleague a bonus of all expenses paid weekend to either London or Paris. We chose London. We had only Benelux visa and would have had to get a visa for France which was not possible in short time.Suraj wrote: Can you prove this claim ?
After landing, the experience was something else. We were questioned for almost 20 minutes but did get the visa under "Commonwealth Countries" rule. This was well known to all who working in that consulting company.
Suraj - I can confirm they still do provide visa on arrival for transit passengers subject to you convincing the border agency that you will return within 24 hours to catch an onward flight. The catch is that this isn't available to Indian 'residents', but to those with residence in the North America or Europe.Suraj wrote:Can you prove this claim ?Vayutuvan wrote: Mid 1980s, all commonwealth countries provided this facility to each other. When did that change?
You're not confirming anything in the original assertion. It's a transit visa, and is clearly not available on the basis of commonwealth nationality, but on a discretionary basis subject to other conditions being met. That's a whole lot different from the original post. Further, both the DATV and VITV pages state:mmasand wrote:Suraj - I can confirm they still do provide visa on arrival for transit passengers subject to you convincing the border agency that you will return within 24 hours to catch an onward flight. The catch is that this isn't available to Indian 'residents', but to those with residence in the North America or Europe.Suraj wrote: Can you prove this claim ?
Both these need prior application, even the DATV one where you never leave the airside but need a visa just to transit. Applies to Indians too, unless they meet other conditions (e.g. US/Canada/Australia visa/GC).You must apply online for a Visitor in Transit visa.
You’ll need to have your fingerprints and photograph (known as ‘biometric information’) taken at a visa application centre as part of your application.
I was not aware of what the visa rules were at that time. None of my colleagues, who were on consulting assignments across Europe, were ever rejected a visitors visa on entry to UK.Suraj wrote: Thanks. Your experience is quite far removed from the original claim though. Your description implies you were let in on a discretionary basis due to proven business ties to Benelux. That's not the same as general permissibility.
I did not request transit visa and my stay was for 72 hours.mmasand wrote:Suraj - I can confirm they still do provide visa on arrival for transit passengers subject to you convincing the border agency that you will return within 24 hours to catch an onward flight.
I think all those worked in your favour - you had a proper employment gig, travel arrangements all worked out, and were thus offered discretionary entry, even though they subjected you to harrassment first.Vayutuvan wrote:I was not aware of what the visa rules were at that time. None of my colleagues who were on consutling assignments across Europe were ever rejected a visa on entry to UK.Suraj wrote: Thanks. Your experience is quite far removed from the original claim though. Your description implies you were let in on a discretionary basis due to proven business ties to Benelux. That's not the same as general permissibility.
That said, we had hotel rooms reserved for our stay at Grovesnor's Place (lovely hotel that was), return tickets to Rotterdam, and of course a valid Benelux visa on an Indian passport.