Indo-UK News & Discussions- June 2017

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Britain bans Russian state TV channel RT

China bans BBC news broadcasts one week after CGTN's license withdrawn in U.K.

It is high time the Indian Government banned BBC from airing in India. BBC is a government owned enterprise and as such their activities can be detrimental to Indian interests. There is no freedom of press involved here. UK's actions have a precedent that we can follow.
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couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch of guys or even country, for that matter....

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watch from 3:50 onwards

Reveals the politically motivated genesis of the BBC's so called documentary


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_pOpcTY6ws



BBC Film on Gujarat Riots: why it won’t be shown in India? । MODI । BBC DOCUMENTARY । ASHUTOSH



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The Truth BBC Will Not Tell You...
Hazratbal is most revered in Kashmir as it is believed that the shrine houses the Prophet's relic.

The militants's strategy was to force a showdown with the Indian Army in a repeat of the 1984 Golden Temple crisis.

On October 21, 1993, BBC's Urdu service broadcast the news that the Hazratbal shrine has been burnt down by the Indian Army.

Srinagar and the Kashmir Valley was under a strict curfew at the time and most Kashmiris relied on the radio, particularly the BBC, to know what was happening.

As is to be expected, the fake news spread like wildfire and agitated mobs took to the streets.

I contacted the Indian Army's XV Corps HQ and requested it to help me connect to the BBC in London (those were the days when this was no cakewalk).

I rang up the BBC, told them I was on their expert panel and physically in Srinagar and that the news of the Hazratbal shrine being burned down was false. The BBC did not respond.

The next day, a Border Security Force convoy passing through the town of Bijbehara on the outskirts of Srinagar was attacked.

The soldiers had no choice, but to open fire in self defence.

In that tragic event, 51 Kashmiri civilians were killed. The BBC has Kashmiri blood on its hands.
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All the left wing student unions in JNU and Central university screening the movie. TMC Derek and Mahua sending vimeo links.
I think instead of banning video , they should set up a committee to investigate BBC and ban it for 6 months or one year based on report. They will find enough grounds.
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well they backtracked on bloking ndtv for a week this will need plenty of spine...entire west blocked RT channel one fine morning just like that so that their propaganda prevails, we are only asking to block bbc for 6 months!
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vijayk wrote:All the left wing student unions in JNU and Central university screening the movie. TMC Derek and Mahua sending vimeo links.
I think instead of banning video , they should set up a committee to investigate BBC and ban it for 6 months or one year based on report. They will find enough grounds.
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No, no no, charge them with contempt of court. Let them publicly explain and lets see what the SC has to say about its authority.
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Being state institutions (JNU, HCU etc), those who screened the BBC documentary in the campus premises should be taken to task and punished.
In this age of social media, ban is not effective. But by banning BBC documentary, govt gave a warning shot. Good. People give a jack ass or damn to this documentary in terms of swaying electoral politics. It may create some social disharmony and may affect some hindus overseas. By this time supporters of Modi and non-supporters/haters of Modi firmly stick to their side/perception irrespective of this documentary of 10s of other such docs. In today's totally polarized world (India) there are hardly any in the middle ground.

It would be great if one creates a documentary on BBC itself, BBC and its turmoil mischief globally, starting with India.
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Lisa wrote:
No, no no, charge them with contempt of court. Let them publicly explain and lets see what the SC has to say about its authority.
If the Shakespeare phan says no it is preedom of expression then drop any contempt against Ajeet Bharti etc. as well. Let the tow BIF groups duke it out.
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In fact we should discuss the facts, the Gujarat Riots saved Musharraf, Pakistan was loosing Huge soldiers in operation Parakram. The Army was on the Border, Central Police Forces were busy with Uttar Pradesh elections, in fact the Kar Sevaks were returning after the last phase of UP elections were over.

Exactly then a mob arrives Burns a train, stop fire engines and makes sure 59 people are burned to death and Narodia Patia happens within a few hours. Along when Army was tied up on the border, Central police forces in UP, 3 neighboring states ruled by INC in Rajasthan MP and Maharashtra refused to help.

Not to mention while operation Parakram was going on when war on terror was going on, with the US Airforce bombers were flying from Diago Garcia, 2 US Navy battle Groups were sitting of the Pakistani coast while the Indian Navy was trying to blockade Pakistan which made things really complicated.

The Gujarat riots were really convenient with false claims of 2000 women wombs being cut. And all the main convicts in Godhra ran accross the border to MP to be protected by Dogvijaya Singh ruled Government.

That's why Godhra and subsequent riots were conducted by the INC left ecosystem. I think its high time BJP go on the offensive on this.
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fanne wrote:
Lisa wrote:
No, no no, charge them with contempt of court. Let them publicly explain and lets see what the SC has to say about its authority.
If the Shakespeare phan says no it is preedom of expression then drop any contempt against Ajeet Bharti etc. as well. Let the tow BIF groups duke it out.
Exactly my point. Doomed if the do and doomed if they don't!
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just when you thought Uk can't stoop any lower!


Despite curbs, Britain importing oil from Russia via India
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/wor ... 294291.cms
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UK prefers those coming through human trafficking only it seems...
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Cyrano wrote:UK prefers those coming through human trafficking only it seems...

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Right on the heels of BBC controversy, U.K. Trade Secretary denies student visas for India says it cannot be a part of the FTA deal.

Echoing Suella Braverman, she says “Indians cannot be offered the same kind of mobility as has been offered to Australians under FTA by UK.”
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This Braverman dances to a very different tune. She got fired under the previous shortlived PM but she survived and was once again retained in her job by Sunak. Wonder who is backing her so strongly ?

This visa thing is another trip wire for Sunak to not go through FTA with India, knowing fully well that Australia, Germany, Austria and a few other countries have signed Mobility agreements with India recently and India will not budge on this item while negotiating FTA with UK. Someone is trying hard to prevent Hindu-Hindu bhai bhai at all costs.

I suspect its the Paki lobby which has infested UK administration. Sine they can't demand equal treatment anymore, they will try to scuttle any positive development between the two countries.
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Cyrano wrote:UK prefers those coming through human trafficking only it seems...
Or whites from Australia.
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https://www.channel4.com/news/calls-for ... is-johnson
Calls for resignations over Zahawi tax inquiry and BBC Chairman’s involvement in loan to Boris Johnson
Tory chairman Nadhim Zahawi hasn’t spoken publicly about his settlement with HMRC over millions in unpaid tax.

But BBC chairman Richard Sharp did give an exclusive interview today – with the BBC, somewhat unsurprisingly – about his appointment and the disclosure that he helped then prime minister Boris Johnson to secure a loan of up to £800,000
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UK to play third umpire on Kashmir during Pakistan Army chief’s visit
Despite India taking over Britain in terms of economy and global clout, UK still harbours illusions over the Indian sub-continent and likes to play in the Af-Pak region with the help of Pakistan. The Taliban takeover of Kabul in 2021 has been the disastrous consequence of this UK-Pak devil play with Afghan minorities and women thrown to Islamist wolves.
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UK to play third umpire on Kashmir during Pakistan Army chief’s visit
Despite India taking over Britain in terms of economy and global clout, UK still harbours illusions over the Indian sub-continent and likes to play in the Af-Pak region with the help of Pakistan. The Taliban takeover of Kabul in 2021 has been the disastrous consequence of this UK-Pak devil play with Afghan minorities and women thrown to Islamist wolves.
While UK state broadcaster BBC with directions from the foreign office chose to rake up the 2002 Gujarat riots despite Indian Supreme Court’s clean chit to PM Modi with an eye towards 2024 elections, the Pakistan and UK Army have decided to jointly host regional stability conference in England to discuss among other things the so-called Kashmir dispute.
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the Pakistan and UK Army have decided to jointly host regional stability conference in England to discuss among other things the so-called Kashmir dispute.


Sunak or no Sunak UK is eager to follow Paki's route to implosion. And Pakis on both sides will help them get there...
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https://www.sundayguardianlive.com/news ... ocumentary
Sino-Pak link to the BBC anti-Modi documentary
Madhav Nalapat, January 28, 2023

NEW DELHI: The BBC’s choice of Jack Straw to put on steroids its vituperation against India in the documentary, “India: The Modi Question”, was not accidental. Straw is a Fellow of the 48 Club, a UK-based group that has never camouflaged its affinity towards the Chinese Communist Party. A scan of the videos available on social media during just the 21st century will reveal the consistent manner in which the sometime Home and later Foreign Secretary of the UK has backed those in the Atlantic Alliance who seek to ignore the expansionary activities of the PRC, especially under CCP General Secretary Xi Jinping, and focus his ire on countries such as India that are the target of the Sino-Wahabi lobby. Records of Straw’s speeches in gatherings of those in the UK who have long sought to force India to concede to the takeover of Kashmir by Pakistan are plentiful. To explain such a bias away by pointing out that more than a third of the voters in his constituency were Muslims is to be unfair to the members of that faith. Only a small minority of Muslims support the hardline views of those individuals who were known backers of Jack Straw while he was in active politics in the UK. Given the comradely and collaborative relationship between the Chinese and Pakistani diplomatic missions in world capitals, it comes as no surprise that more than two decades ago, it was Foreign Secretary Straw who interceded with the Bush administration in Washington “to give diplomacy a chance”, rather than seek to pressure China to immediately release the sophisticated spy plane. Straw’s diplomacy gave the Communist Chinese enough time to ferret out most of the secrets hidden in the manufacture of the aircraft, thereby initiating the process of producing similar aircraft in the PRC that could be used by the PLA against Japan and the US in particular. That the then UK Prime Minister was almost as big an enthusiast of the “Communist China is a natural partner of the western alliance” was helpful to Straw in his efforts at softening the stand of not just his own government but the US government on China. It was during that period that the takeover through salami slicing of the South China Sea was initiated by the PLA. By 2023, more than 81% of the South China Sea has come within range of PLA and PLA Navy artillery, not to mention missile systems and troops stationed in multiple points in the captured waterway. It was during Straw’s period in office that the air and sea space of Taiwan began to be encroached, again a process that by now has reached what may be termed a pre-invasion level by the PLA.
Given his cosy relationship with the Sino-Wahabi lobby, it is no surprise that the UK politician has a dystopian view of India, a country that has remained a democracy since it secured independence from the British in 1947. Of course, among the contributions of the Labour Party to global geopolitics was the partition of India on religious lines. It is remarkable that Straw has not yet begun a campaign to ensure in the UK practices such as multiple wives for a male individual, a practice outlawed in major powers such as Egypt or Turkey, despite the latter being a country that has drifted very far from its Kemalist and Sufi roots over the past two decades. The BBC did not want surprises in its effort at ensuring a monochromatically dark picture of a country that it claimed was enmeshed in coils of hatred and conflict, and knew that in Straw, they had found the ideal interviewee. A question arises why there has not been a documentary produced in India about the way in which the British colonial power sought to divide Hindus and Muslims after the 1857 revolt against their excesses. Such a documentary would have served to make people understand the motivation and the context for a production that was masterminded by individuals who appear to harbour a hatred of India for remaining a democracy in which the Muslim community is growing in an atmosphere almost entirely free of violence.
That there have been some excesses in India against innocent people is a given, something that has unfortunately been the case even after Independence 75 years ago, although much less now than in the past. If the BBC wanted to document violence against individuals based on their faith, they would only have had to go to corners of India where the Hindu population was sought to be eliminated, such as in Kashmir during 1990-93. Clearly, only faked rather than real genocides in India draw the attention of the BBC. It is true that as in other parts of the world, religious hatred is still present in bits of India, as it is in many parts of the world, including in the UK. What is a reflection of the partiality of the BBC is that only scenes of violence directed at a section of society by another was shown, that too since Narendra Modi took over as Prime Minister. Both Hindus as well as Muslims have been the victims of communal violence. Records show that communal killings have gone down since 2014, but the BBC is silent about excesses in the pre-Modi period, given its intention of seeking to create hatred against the Prime Minister of India in its audiences.
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Vayutuvan wrote:
Cyrano wrote:UK prefers those coming through human trafficking only it seems...
Or whites from Australia.
They have served their sentences, so they can return.
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yensoy wrote: They have served their sentences, so they can return.
:rotfl:
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I know brits wanting to go to Australia (especially doctors) but not the reverse .
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gakakkad wrote:I know brits wanting to go to Australia (especially doctors) but not the reverse .
When I was living in the UK in the eighties, I became aware of a law that allowed Australian citizens, who had at least one grandparent that was a British subject to return back to UK. Australia had a reciprocal law. Due to long enforced whites only policy, most Australians fell under this category.
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gakakkad wrote:I know brits wanting to go to Australia (especially doctors) but not the reverse .
some of them humiliated and sent back (in competitive streams, some specialities are OK)
one motorham gori was asked to write IELTS to get a training job another was asked to take exams on top of what they passed in UK
they felt humiiated and promised to never go back , one of them told 'Im more English than Australian how can they ask me to write IELTS' :rotfl:
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mean e while crafty buggers of librandu media in UK trying to pit Elon |Musk against Modi in the name of FoS

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/ ... gency-laws
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[quote="Rony"]UK to play third umpire on Kashmir during Pakistan Army chief’s visit

That's nice, what are they going to discuss, all those dead and injured British soldiers, killed by a taliban which was supported and advised by the pakistani state/army/ISI ?

By any reasonable standards of common sense, all NATO & EU nations should have cut of diplomatic relations with pak as soon as they discovered their links with the taliban/AQ.
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IndraD wrote:
gakakkad wrote:I know brits wanting to go to Australia (especially doctors) but not the reverse .
some of them humiliated and sent back (in competitive streams, some specialities are OK)
one motorham gori was asked to write IELTS to get a training job another was asked to take exams on top of what they passed in UK
they felt humiiated and promised to never go back , one of them told 'Im more English than Australian how can they ask me to write IELTS' :rotfl:
Which is not the case for US board certified folks ,which the Australian agints actively try to recruit and spam lolol .I know a desi trained IR guy who worked in US for a few years was spammed hard by some dude down under .
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Years ago there was a character called Bhamra who lived in our town. He stood 6 feet tall and with a full beard and turban and was repeatedly turned down for a teachers job in the UK, he needed the job so he could emigrate to the UK. By deed poll he changed his name to Webber and submitted similar applications and lo behold, he was offered a job without any discussion - this is in the late 60's to early 70's.

He packed his bags, family and all as passage was paid for by the Crown and arrived at his new job in the UK with all staring at him not knowing what to do with him as he was not the white face they had given to job to! :rotfl:
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Tory peer accused of ‘racially charged’ attack on BBC Modi documentary

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ocumentary
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We need to call out BBC for their anti Hindu and anti India bias in support of this Tory peer and that BBC is gaslighting to avoid scrutiny on its own bias.
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hgupta wrote:We need to call out BBC for their anti Hindu and anti India bias in support of this Tory peer and that BBC is gaslighting to avoid scrutiny on its own bias.
Should put that in Wikipedia.
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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-64392524

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/ ... n-29025581

The current BBC boss is a friend of Boris Johnson.

He has arrenged a loan of 800000 pound sterling for BoJo. While he was the PM.
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hgupta wrote:We need to call out BBC for their anti Hindu and anti India bias in support of this Tory peer and that BBC is gaslighting to avoid scrutiny on its own bias.
I wonder if this influences their reporting ??

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/bbc ... ed-huawei/
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What a find.
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Sometimes, you find gems in Youtube recommendations. Here is one:


I think it is time to shed light on the "democracy" of the UK
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