Indo-UK News & Discussions- June 2017

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Kaivalya, don’t need long essays from you about how dangerous buddhism is to the world and thereby deflecting attention from the key issue we are discussing here, UK’s troubling imprisonment of large numbers of Buddhists. FYi, they are a model, non-violent minority in UK, yet they seem to get pulled over and put in jails.

Why are they disproportionately being jailed in UK because of their beliefs? So enough of Buddhophobia here in this particular thread (about UK).
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Hnairji ,

Please read my earlier response. My point was people classified as Buddhists might have nothing to do with buddhism as they come from a variety of cultures and countries
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Please take your point on Buddhism to the appropriate thread. This thread is about UK and it is of concern that UK is incarcerating a religious minority more than others. Particularly one so peaceful and widely respected as Buddhism.
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Prem Kumar wrote:
Neela wrote:Is it only me who thinks Rishi is there to get over the economic hump. And is likely to be flushed off once stability returns?
Possible fall-guy as well if the Tories lose the next general elections to Labour. Perhaps why BoJo sat this one out, among other reasons
I have a diff view of the rise of Sunak. With the US in slow retreat from the world, alliance partners like the UK needs to look elsewhere to help secure their own interests. I think the corporates along with the political leadership learned quite a bit from the US-China relationship and would like to enter a similar relationship with India. India has a huge labor skilled and unskilled labor advantage and is politically stable. It also has an overall peaceful rise strategy and has positioned itself as the most powerful swing state in human history.

I think Liz messed up with this FTA and this was a big thing. There is huge potential with big corporate houses in UK transferring technology including defence and catering to huge consumer market in India, UK, and rest of world. It's a win-win relationship.

This is where Sunak comes in. Indians are very good at fixing problems. I think politics is a new area like IT which has a lot of potential. From what I see, Sunak is treating this political problem like a private equity. He has a lot of cash and huge resources from his family. He's going to attempt to strengthen the conservative position, stabilize the economy, and get the FTA online.

This is a boon for Indian gov including intelligence community. I am sure he can be influenced to a degree. His father and his company after all are subject to Indian law.
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Vijay Mallya's counsel seeks discharge from case, says fugitive gone 'incommunicado

https://www.timesnownews.com/business-e ... e-95272899
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IndraD wrote:Vijay Mallya's counsel seeks discharge from case, says fugitive gone 'incommunicado

https://www.timesnownews.com/business-e ... e-95272899
mallya has not paid his counsel's fees and the prospect of any fees coming his way is non-existent.

so, since no recharge, only discharge is the option.
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'Utterly depraved' pet owner who filmed himself having sex with his labrador is banned from being alone with any dog but avoids jail"

of course his real crime was that he was nor Indian

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -jail.html
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British Army soldier is found guilty of sexually assaulting female colleague in her room at Sandhurst following all-night drinking session

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... hurst.html
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British PM Rishi Sunak committed to FTA with India, says Downing Street https://indianexpress.com/article/world ... t-8246331/
Intensive negotiations continue towards a free trade agreement (FTA) between India and the UK and new British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak is committed to achieving a balanced deal, Downing Street said on Wednesday.

Sunak, who took charge at 10 Downing Street last week, had a “very warm” introductory call with Prime Minister Narendra Modi during which both sides expressed their commitment towards an FTA.

The UK Prime Minister’s office also reiterated that the focus remains on a balanced trade deal that benefits both sides and therefore no timeframe is being specified after a proposed Diwali timeline had to be abandoned last month amid political turmoil in the UK.

The two leaders are expected to meet in person at the G20 Summit in Indonesia later this month, unless they meet at the COP27 Summit in Egypt where the UK Prime Minister has confirmed attendance of the Leader’s Day but Modi’s visit is as yet unconfirmed.
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King Charles had a valet for his teddy bear — when he was in his 40s: book

Should this also be in Positive news from the UK??
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Better he takes it out on a stuffed doll than someone else. Small mercies...
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Kedar wrote:King Charles had a valet for his teddy bear — when he was in his 40s: book

Should this also be in Positive news from the UK??
That's nothing. In India we have a complete political party caring for a 50+ year old youth icon.
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Dover migrant centre attack driven by right-wing ideology - police https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-63526659
UK which preaches India and third world on inclusivity had its migrant holding centre bommed by white terrorist (in police's word)
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No Hindutva or RSS extremism involved in Leicester violence: Report


"No Hindutva or RSS extremism in Leicester violence". UK think thank Henry Jackson Society exposes ecosystem’s attempt to malign Hindus and project them as aggressive & intolerant with an expansionist world view.

Blames fakery by extremist SM influencers.

Hinduphobics blunted.

Charlotte Littlewood's 39 Page Report by is here


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Boris Johnson ‘quit PM race over risk to £10m earnings’, sources say
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ources-say
Boris Johnson would have forfeited earnings of at least £10m a year from speeches and sales of his memoirs if he had fought a leadership battle against Rishi Sunak and lost, according to informed sources in the entertainment industry, who believe financial considerations played a part in his decision to pull out.

Since he resigned in July, Johnson is known to have been in talks with entertainment and talent agencies including Endeavour, run by US businessman Ari Emanuel, and the Harry Walker Agency (HWA), one of its subsidiaries.

HWA’s clients include Bill Clinton, Barack Obama and Serena Williams.

Johnson’s earning potential is said by some of those he had been in talks with before Liz Truss’s resignation to have been put at about £20m a year.

Most Tories, including Johnson supporters, believe the main reason behind his withdrawal from the contest to replace Truss a fortnight ago was that he was being told he risked destroying the Tory party, and his reputation with it. However, some of his allies were surprised and felt let down by his decision.

“There were a lot of people upset with Boris,” one senior Tory figure said. “They’d backed him publicly only to see him pull out at the last minute. They didn’t understand why.”

Their confusion deepened on Friday when Sir Graham Brady, chair of the 1922 Committee of Conservative backbenchers, made it clear that Johnson had definitely received enough nominations (the backing of at least 100 MPs) to proceed to a final “indicative” vote of MPs and then a ballot of the 170,000 or so party members who’d have the final say. At the time some doubted he had got close to 100.

The Observer has been told that people associated with Emanuel made it clear to Johnson that had he lost against Sunak, his appeal to global audiences, and therefore a good deal of his earning power, would disappear. It is understood that the talent industry believed his value would have dropped by at least half.
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IndraD wrote:British PM Rishi Sunak committed to FTA with India, says Downing Street https://indianexpress.com/article/world ... t-8246331/
No way should India accept some the Pharmaceutical related IPR rules that UK might be forcing on India's Pharmaceutical Industry. This is based on "leaked chapter" from UK's Draft FTA text.

Refer below link

Reject UK proposals on IP in FTA: Medical NGO ( Médecins Sans Frontières ) to India
The UK's demands are seeking to gut India's patent and drug regulatory laws of the safeguards that make it a manufacturing powerhouse. India is a major supplier of many of the affordable, lifesaving generic medicines that MSF and many countries rely on to treat people with diseases like tuberculosis (TB), malaria, and HIV/AIDS. The excessive measures included in the draft IP chapter of the UK-India FTA could jeopardize this
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(UK based) NGOs claim UK-India free trade deal will raise medicine prices
"India supplies our NHS with 25% of all the medicines used to treat patients here in the UK,” they continue. “Any action that curtails India’s ability to produce quality, cost-effective medicines also threatens the financial sustainability of our health service, and ultimately puts patients’ lives at risk.
Chapter on IP Related Discussion Item Points with India in UK's FTA Draft Document (Document alleged to have been leaked)
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gakakkad wrote:^ I have an example of pure pakiness . Bangalore Kerala style.

A Ukrainian couple was admitted to residency program at my madarasa and was looking for research opportunities to get into a highly competitive subspecialty that is especially hard to get x for foreign medical grad . They approached an Israeli colleague pretending to be Jewish Ukrainian refugees thinking it would help them secure favors. Coincidentally it was after rosh hassanah. Asked how was rosh hassanah. Kids thought that may be a place in Israel they pretended to visit and said it was a nice place!!

I am waiting for them to approach me pretending to be Indians.

It's not uncommon for people to lie to secure favors . But this was blatant .
A lot of my SHQ's family from Ukr and Rusisa came to the US via the 'Jewish' route

My wife has a grandma who is jewish so got US citizenship at a very young age. There is a huge Baptist church pipeline in sacramentio mormon pipeline in Utah feeding slavs [mainly Ukr] to get their refugee status green card.

The chutzpah they show when they come here is crazy. get to the country, un six months, take bible lessons / rabbi trainings and then apply for refugee status ad then boom GC.
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Banks of UK putting billions in Qatar bank cos they give better return (4%) on deposits rather than own banks(!) Qtr is under charges of psersecuting LGBT crowd while hosting cosmopolitan FIFA https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... gbt-rights
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dnivas wrote:
gakakkad wrote:^ I have an example of pure pakiness . Bangalore Kerala style.

A Ukrainian couple was admitted to residency program at my madarasa and was looking for research opportunities to get into a highly competitive subspecialty that is especially hard to get x for foreign medical grad . They approached an Israeli colleague pretending to be Jewish Ukrainian refugees thinking it would help them secure favors. Coincidentally it was after rosh hassanah. Asked how was rosh hassanah. Kids thought that may be a place in Israel they pretended to visit and said it was a nice place!!

I am waiting for them to approach me pretending to be Indians.

It's not uncommon for people to lie to secure favors . But this was blatant .
A lot of my SHQ's family from Ukr and Rusisa came to the US via the 'Jewish' route

My wife has a grandma who is jewish so got US citizenship at a very young age. There is a huge Baptist church pipeline in sacramentio mormon pipeline in Utah feeding slavs [mainly Ukr] to get their refugee status green card.

The chutzpah they show when they come here is crazy. get to the country, un six months, take bible lessons / rabbi trainings and then apply for refugee status ad then boom GC.
so somehow there are mormons in ukraine who are persecuted by the russians who need to be US refugees. makes sense lol
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Hinduja family feud leaves patriarch Srichand Hinduja without right dementia care and needing public nursing home
https://news.sky.com/story/hinduja-fami ... e-12744448
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Nalini wants to go UK!! :roll:
Is it true that her daughter and husband are in UK :eek:
Her husband was also a convict wasn't he??
How the hell did they get visa??
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Rsatchi wrote:Nalini wants to go UK!! :roll:
Is it true that her daughter and husband are in UK :eek:
Her husband was also a convict wasn't he??
How the hell did they get visa??
her daughter's medical education has been allegedly paid for by the mafia queen

husband is alive, proper member of the ltte, and he is/was an illegal SL refugee who entered India clandestinely and so legally forfeits all claim to refugee status in India but since wokes are part of the Indian ecosystem and anything goes

visa was given because the host is an active part of the BIF that funded, armed and even today aids the dravidian terrorists who once operated out of SL but today are operating out of dravidian claimed lands.

can a convict even hold an Indian passport or will the wokes allow that too to happen
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So BIF giving Indian state middle finger through SC. Pieces coming together after Kstan, support for TN tigers to become more active in whatever they have been involved in…
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chetak wrote:
Rsatchi wrote:Nalini wants to go UK!! :roll:
Is it true that her daughter and husband are in UK :eek:
Her husband was also a convict wasn't he??
How the hell did they get visa??
her daughter's medical education has been allegedly paid for by the mafia queen

husband is alive, proper member of the ltte, and he is/was an illegal SL refugee who entered India clandestinely and so legally forfeits all claim to refugee status in India but since wokes are part of the Indian ecosystem and anything goes

visa was given because the host is an active part of the BIF that funded, armed and even today aids the dravidian terrorists who once operated out of SL but today are operating out of dravidian claimed lands.

can a convict even hold an Indian passport or will the wokes allow that too to happen
Lot of conspiracy theories in the murder of RG that he was about to divorce. She was supposed to go with him but stayed away. RG memorial trust was registered in the same day which looked to be true.

With current happenings, these might be true.
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What was the legal basis stated by the SC to set these killers free? Thanks
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Cyrano wrote:What was the legal basis stated by the SC to set these killers free? Thanks
Because, their cases were identical to Perarivalan's release. All their roles were peripheral, at best, to the actual conspiracy which was planned and executed by Sivarasan who committed suicide once he realized that the Police had surrounded him. The Supreme Court had earlier released Perarivalan using a rarely used Article in the Indian Constitution which empowers the SC to render 'justice' when laws as framed, allow no scope for doing so. Since other six people's cases were no different from that of Perarivalan (in terms of their participation and knowledge of the conspiracy) their right to be released became no less than that of Perarivalan.
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Cyrano wrote:What was the legal basis stated by the SC to set these killers free? Thanks
To free them, the top court basically invoked the extraordinary powers granted to it under Article 142 of the Constitution of India.

the rest of the verbiage that was used was all mirch masala and populist claptrap.

maybe preparing grounds to counter the NJAC onslaught of the govt by appearing "people" friendly.... the National Judicial Commission Act (NJAC) that the GOI wants to bring in to replace the collegium system for the appointment of judges.
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Paris overtakes London as Europe's largest stock market
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/20 ... ck-market/
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Rsatchi wrote:How the hell did they get visa??
jee, you should not even be asking that question considering it is the UK they are going to.
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A Sudanese child whose family was living on benefits in UK died from very poor housing conditions, given to them by local council. UK touching a new low every day. Lack of finance to maintain welfare state they espoused after WW2!

Awaab Ishak: Mould in flat caused boy's death, coroner rules
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-m ... r-63635721

UK must act over its housing, food security and equal rights, says UN body https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... 1668522699

this country spends Bs in destabilising countries around the world!
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Are they talking about 2 extraditions (Kulkarni and Nirav Mod?) :rotfl:
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I used to follow two Russian commentators (for Ukraine-related topics) and one of them - about 3 months ago - said that the ruling class in Russia is very concerned that Sunak would pull India towards the West because both of these PMs are Hindu.
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A thinly disguised racist dog whistle by the Telegraph:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/ne ... r-AA148Vlq

The title is deliberately worded to rile up people.
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