Indo-UK News & Discussions- June 2017

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NRao wrote:
I used to follow two Russian commentators (for Ukraine-related topics) and one of them - about 3 months ago - said that the ruling class in Russia is very concerned that Sunak would pull India towards the West because both of these PMs are Hindu.
The Soviets had led us to Industrial stagnation for 40 years because of their dumdass philosophies. I dont give a damn - we have our own minds now. And in one more generation, we will be a lot more thick skinned and impervious to what Russians or Amreekis or senile EU nations think.
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only 3000......

@ndtv· 4h Official

After Meet With PM Modi, Rishi Sunak Okays 3,000 UK Visas For Indians
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chetak wrote:only 3000......

@ndtv· 4h Official

After Meet With PM Modi, Rishi Sunak Okays 3,000 UK Visas For Indians
Chetakji,

40,000 Undocumented and unqualified boatwalla is OK but professional Indians are fair game and pointed out!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-53734793

P.S. These 40,000 are only the boatwallas, arrivals via ship, channel tunnel and air are separate.

https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/news/2 ... -in-the-uk
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Lisa wrote:
chetak wrote:only 3000......

Chetakji,

40,000 Undocumented and unqualified boatwalla is OK but professional Indians are fair game and pointed out!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-53734793

P.S. These 40,000 are only the boatwallas, arrivals via ship, channel tunnel and air are separate.

https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/news/2 ... -in-the-uk
Very true, Lisa ji.

I was struck by the irony of it. 3000 may be much less than a single days' arrival via the combined illegal routes to the UK, 99% of such arrivals consisting of military age males transplanted from desert climes all chanting the same hymn.
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https://twitter.com/RishiSunak/status/1 ... lvqp7vEK1w
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chetak wrote:only 3000......

@ndtv· 4h Official

After Meet With PM Modi, Rishi Sunak Okays 3,000 UK Visas For Indians

This is bullshit reporting. The visas are reciprocal, i.e. India also gives 'young professional Britons' an equivalent number of visas under some exchange program, yet it is made to appear like they are doing us a favour and this is some coup that India has pulled off.
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Lisa wrote:
chetak wrote:only 3000......
Chetakji,
40,000 Undocumented and unqualified boatwalla is OK but professional Indians are fair game and pointed out!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-53734793
P.S. These 40,000 are only the boatwallas, arrivals via ship, channel tunnel and air are separate.
https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/news/2 ... -in-the-uk
The Western world needs boatloads of labour - whether it is for construction, janitorial services, farm work, senior care etc. Relatively, they don't need more programmers - they have enough locals (including many Indian & Chinese origin 1st/2nd/3rd generation immigrants) who can do the job. The terrible passage that the boatwallas have endured is a gauntlet to pick the best, most able and driven people from Africa & Asia; it is also true that many of the individuals making the illegal trek are jihadis or suffer from PTSD and could go amok but someone has weighed the pros and cons and decided to mainstream illegals.
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yensoy wrote:
Lisa wrote: Chetakji,
40,000 Undocumented and unqualified boatwalla is OK but professional Indians are fair game and pointed out!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-53734793
P.S. These 40,000 are only the boatwallas, arrivals via ship, channel tunnel and air are separate.
https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/news/2 ... -in-the-uk
The Western world needs boatloads of labour - whether it is for construction, janitorial services, farm work, senior care etc. Relatively, they don't need more programmers - they have enough locals (including many Indian & Chinese origin 1st/2nd/3rd generation immigrants) who can do the job. The terrible passage that the boatwallas have endured is a gauntlet to pick the best, most able and driven people from Africa & Asia; it is also true that many of the individuals making the illegal trek are jihadis or suffer from PTSD and could go amok but someone has weighed the pros and cons and decided to mainstream illegals.
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It is the same policy as in the middle east, labourers are allowed illegally, since they are illegal they don't have access to legal recourse, ince thier usefulness is over, they are sent back in an amnesty scheme.
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Aditya_V wrote:It is the same policy as in the middle east, labourers are allowed illegally, since they are illegal they don't have access to legal recourse, ince thier usefulness is over, they are sent back in an amnesty scheme.
Middle East treats labourers like rubbish. However, thanks to Jihadi-Left lobbies and supporters embedded everywhere in the British state, these people will never leave the UK.
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Not really The UK keeps some vocal minorities but makes sure its not over whelmed, it probably has just 5% Muslim population, Scandinavia has 2% Muslim population. Nothing like say 36% in the Indian Subcontinent.

It is very easy to control and take the Moral High ground when you have such high majority and Non Diverse population.

Its not like Sweden will allow say Pakis and BD to say come in 6 million , have their own Madrasas to preserve culture and give 60% of their Police force and Military jobs to them. Then I will believe Europe really Woke. Till then it is just a fascade to keep these Actors to run conflicts in the rest of World and act along with other useful idiots to run an agenda.

Keep the Elite Children with them so that they can control what they do in the Sub continent.
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^Sweden etc that is true, though they are complaining and their woke virtue signalling mask is slipping even with that level of immigration.

France has a real problem, however their immigrants are relatively better integrated plus the state has a strict secular policy without much fake political correctness holding them back. So at least there is pushback against anything that is seen as against French values.

Britain though has a massive problem. The population of Pakis and their ilk is pretty significant and growing and they are beginning to run amok without much control and pushback, except from the UKIP types who anyway hate all immigrants (and even EU types) and hence are easily dismissed as cranky nutjobs. Also, the Pakis have a significant sway over the labour party and with rapid population growth and the general mess that the Tories have created, their influence is bound to increase. You can see how helpless they look with the inability to do anything about grooming gangs, out of the several hundred Pakis that they know were involved, they could start deportation proceedings only for a couple and even for those they are stuck in appeal after appeal supported by woke lawyers. Most of the mainstream won't even admit that there is a problem, let alone do anything about it.

That 'bring in immigrants, keep them as an underclass and kick them when not needed' idea might have had some partial success in the 50s and 60s when Britain still had global clout and the immigrants came from countries destroyed by centuries of colonial destruction, however since then the British economy (at least the real one, ignoring the City and profiting off dirty money from the rest of the world) has declined, the industrious non-Paki types have broken out and become part of the elite, whereas the Paki types have gamed the system, exploited all the welfare benefits and become a huge burden, and invited all of their inbred cousins from their village to join them in the welfare scams and local politics.
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Paki population in England is at a level where it is a problem to Hindu Britishers or Non Muslim Indian Britishers but not a level where the Average British Citizen is disturbed enough to stop the Pro Pakistani behavior's of the British Government.
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Aditya_V wrote:Paki population in England is at a level where it is a problem to Hindu Britishers or Non Muslim Indian Britishers but not a level where the Average British Citizen is disturbed enough to stop the Pro Pakistani behavior's of the British Government.
Saar ji.not agree with you.what about grooming gangs? What about thugs standing on the corners to intimidate whites. What about theft. Brits have no clue how to solve the problem. They are more afraid of being labeled as racist the anything else's.
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The care a rat's ass to being called racist, its thier Govt which feels Pakis are the key espicially Paki Punjabis, Khalistanis etc are most important to their policies in the subcontinent.

That's why those shenanigans get tolerated
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Twitter accounts in India responsible for Liecester violence-Bloomberg
A network of fake accounts originating outside of the UK stoked violence between Muslims and Hindus in a British city earlier this year, according to research first provided to Bloomberg News.

An estimated 500 inauthentic accounts that called for violence and promoted memes as well as incendiary videos were created on Twitter Inc. during riots in Leicester between late August and early September this year, according to the Network Contagion Research Institute at Rutgers University.

Hundreds took to the streets in the days following a cricket match between India and Pakistan on August 27, with some rioters carrying sticks and batons and throwing glass bottles as police were deployed to calm the masses. Homes, cars and religious artifacts were vandalised during the clashes, which went on for weeks and resulted in 47 arrests, according to Leicestershire police.


Social media was rife with videos claiming to show mosques being set alight and claims of kidnapping, forcing police to issue warnings that people should not believe misinformation online. Many of the Twitter accounts that amplified the unrest originated in India, researchers said.

Anti-Muslim sentiment has been rising in majority-Hindu India under Prime Minister Narendra Modi, leading to a narrative that Hindus outside the country, some of whom who are not Indian, subscribe to Hindutva, a kind of Hindu nationalism.

An initial video purporting to show Hindus attacking Muslim men sparked uncorroborated claims that local, politically motivated activists amplified, researchers said. The video sparked the interest of a foreign influence network, the involvement of which contributed to real-world violence, according to the findings.

US technology companies played a key role in fanning the confrontations, according to Leicester Mayor Peter Soulsby, numerous media reports and participants including Adam Yusuf, a 21-year-old who told a judge that he brought a knife to a demonstration and was "influenced by social media."

"Our research finds that both domestic networks of assailants and foreign actors now compete to use social media as a weapon in the midst of heightened ethnic tensions," said Joel Finkelstein, founder of NCRI. "Our methods highlight a process and technology that democracies need to learn to take preventative measures and protect themselves and their communities."

Using data collected from Google's YouTube, Meta Platforms Inc.'s Instagram, Twitter and ByteDance Ltd.'s TikTok the NCRI report published Wednesday provides one of the most detailed views of how foreign influencers spread disinformation at a local level, transpiring into clashes in one of the most diverse cities in the UK.

Mentions of "Hindu" exceeded mentions of "Muslim" by nearly 40%, and Hindus were largely depicted as aggressors and conspirators in a global project for international dominance, NCRI's linguistic analysis found.

They found that 70% of violent tweets, using sentiment analysis from Google's Jigsaw service, were made against Hindus during the Leicester riot timeframe.

One particularly effective meme, eventually banned by Twitter, circulated under the hashtag #HindusUnderAttackInUK, researchers said. The cartoon depicted the Muslim community as insects, alleging that different aspects of Islam were "combining together to destroy India."

Researchers also found evidence of bot-like accounts which disseminated both anti-Hindu and anti-Muslim messaging, each blaming the other for the violence. The bots were identified based on the time of account creation and the number of repeated tweets, with some tweeting 500 times per minute, according to the findings.

"It's not Hindus versus Muslims it's Leicester versus extremist Hindus who came here through fake Portuguese passports, they started coming here 5 years ago, before the Hindus and Muslims lived peacefully," wrote one account flagged by NCRI.

Another, which has been banned, said that Hindus were trying to "mobilize a global genocide."

Largely, the researchers found that UK-based assailants used social media platforms as a weapon to organise attacks and amplify conspiracies against British Hindus, which in turn caused a "tit-for-tat relationship between these two forces," said Finkelstein.

After the first instances of fake videos spread on Twitter, a "highly orchestrated echo chamber," from India kicked into amplify tweets "solely blaming Muslims for the events in Leicester," the report claimed, which in turned spurred even more violence against Hindus in Leicester.

This suggested that local community tensions were ripe for exploitation on Twitter by external nationalist groups, the researchers warned. The BBC and disinformation research company Logically also found evidence that a lot of the social media posts during the unrest hailed from India, some 5,000 miles away.

Fiyaz Mughal, an author of the report and the founder of Tell MAMA, a service that allows people in the UK to report anti-Muslim abuse and monitors Islamophobic incidents, said he was shocked at how quickly social networks "could jump on these issues." Mughal said the events in Leicester proved the "risk to the national security of any country today."

Twitter didn't respond to a request for comment.

Claudia Webbe, the MP for Leicester East, told Bloomberg News the riots were undoubtedly sparked by social media. Although hundreds of police were deployed to areas around the West Midlands to monitor the demonstrations, she said she believed most of her constituents within the Hindu and Muslim community had largely been affected "through their phones."

"Even the people who didn't take to the streets were in fear because of what they were receiving through WhatsApp and Twitter - they were afraid to go outside for weeks," she said.

"You've got these overseas influences who are trying to drive political hate and the desire to sow division," she said.
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^^^

Wasn't Claudia Webbe one of the British commentators who utterly refuted the idea of "Hindu extremist groups" being behind the violence in Leicester? Also, Hindus made up most of the casualties, including a Hindu temple. Moslems made up overwhelmingly the number of arrested. Bloomberg is just peddling the "right wing Hindu nationalists influenced by Modi" idea, as the main culprit. Many Indian channels have also exposed the falsehoods in that theory.
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Saar, these are isolated incidents so far but the intent is there:

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk ... s-25524761

Prosecuting, Mark Kellet told the court how the victim got off the bus in Levenshulme after missing his stop in Longsight, and was accosted on Stockport Road by a man who accused him of robbing someone before telling him: "You white b****rd we don’t want to see you around here again".
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same old trope - inciting incendiary social media comments leading to Moo's becoming loose. Now no-one cares to ask why the Hundu's did not get influenced or get violent even after similar or worst social media fakes. Basically Moo's are looking for any excuse to avoid blame and play victim whenever they become loose.
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Part-time jobs, skipped meals: Indian students in UK battle to stay afloat https://www.wionews.com/world/part-time ... oat-535104

A lot of people among Indian students skip meals so that they could probably commute or participate in a social event with the money saved,” Kritin Pandita told WION while adding that a lot of students work part-time at the warehouses located on the outskirts of the city, incurring a significant cost of commute. Juggling part-time work with coursework, Kritin said that in the prevailing situation the “pinch of the struggle is being felt more”.

Vidhi Bubna, a student of Masters in Media and Communications at City, University of London, said that Indian students are not eating their best meals. “The commute, food, even a 200 sq. ft. student accommodation, the crisis has made everything incredibly expensive.”

According to a UK Parliament report published in September 2022, the government has arranged for a £650 Cost of Living payment support for students. But most full-time students, including ones from India, are not eligible to claim the support.

After China, India is the second non-European Union nation sending the most students to the UK. As per UK’s Higher education Statistics Agency, in 2020-21, a total of 84,555 students from India landed across the UK to pursue their higher education.
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IndraD wrote:Twitter accounts in India responsible for Liecester violence-Bloomberg
A network of fake accounts originating outside of the UK stoked violence between Muslims and Hindus in a British city earlier this year, according to research first provided to Bloomberg News.

An estimated 500 inauthentic accounts that called for violence and promoted memes as well as incendiary videos were created on Twitter Inc. during riots in Leicester between late August and early September this year, according to the Network Contagion Research Institute at Rutgers University.



Fiyaz Mughal, an author of the report and the founder of Tell MAMA, a service that allows people in the UK to report anti-Muslim abuse and monitors Islamophobic incidents, said he was shocked at how quickly social networks "could jump on these issues." Mughal said the events in Leicester proved the "risk to the national security of any country today."
Isn't Rutgers University home to the anti-Hindu anti-India South Asian Studies Department analcyst Audrey Truschke.

They interviewed someone who screams Islamophobia but not anybody who is concerned about Hinduphobia. When I type Hinduphobia I get a bid red underline as it is not part of the standard dictionary. Islamophobia no red line and it is part of the dictionary.
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IndraD wrote:Part-time jobs, skipped meals: Indian students in UK battle to stay afloat https://www.wionews.com/world/part-time ... oat-535104

A lot of people among Indian students skip meals so that they could probably commute or participate in a social event with the money saved,” Kritin Pandita told WION while adding that a lot of students work part-time at the warehouses located on the outskirts of the city, incurring a significant cost of commute. Juggling part-time work with coursework, Kritin said that in the prevailing situation the “pinch of the struggle is being felt more”.

Vidhi Bubna, a student of Masters in Media and Communications at City, University of London, said that Indian students are not eating their best meals. “The commute, food, even a 200 sq. ft. student accommodation, the crisis has made everything incredibly expensive.”

According to a UK Parliament report published in September 2022, the government has arranged for a £650 Cost of Living payment support for students. But most full-time students, including ones from India, are not eligible to claim the support.

After China, India is the second non-European Union nation sending the most students to the UK. As per UK’s Higher education Statistics Agency, in 2020-21, a total of 84,555 students from India landed across the UK to pursue their higher education.
I really don't know what's the benefit of doing masters in media or all that crap in inglisstan and waste parents money. Inglisstan does have few good madarasas . Like Cambridge has great engineering ,math and fizzicks (Cavendish lab is pretty tfta still). But most of it is crap . I personally believe that GOI should regulate dalaals of foreign Madarsa who come to India to rob poor parents with videshi lure . Onlee thing that should be encouraged is graduate level courses in STEM.
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I thought in a democracy one was free to pursue what one wanted to do and then was also responsible for ones actions gkakkad.
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gakakkad wrote:
IndraD wrote:Part-time jobs, skipped meals: Indian students in UK battle to stay afloat https://www.wionews.com/world/part-time ... oat-535104

A lot of people among Indian students skip meals so that they could probably commute or participate in a social event with the money saved,” Kritin Pandita told WION while adding that a lot of students work part-time at the warehouses located on the outskirts of the city, incurring a significant cost of commute. Juggling part-time work with coursework, Kritin said that in the prevailing situation the “pinch of the struggle is being felt more”.

Vidhi Bubna, a student of Masters in Media and Communications at City, University of London, said that Indian students are not eating their best meals. “The commute, food, even a 200 sq. ft. student accommodation, the crisis has made everything incredibly expensive.”

According to a UK Parliament report published in September 2022, the government has arranged for a £650 Cost of Living payment support for students. But most full-time students, including ones from India, are not eligible to claim the support.

After China, India is the second non-European Union nation sending the most students to the UK. As per UK’s Higher education Statistics Agency, in 2020-21, a total of 84,555 students from India landed across the UK to pursue their higher education.
I really don't know what's the benefit of doing masters in media or all that crap in inglisstan and waste parents money. Inglisstan does have few good madarasas . Like Cambridge has great engineering ,math and fizzicks (Cavendish lab is pretty tfta still). But most of it is crap . I personally believe that GOI should regulate dalaals of foreign Madarsa who come to India to rob poor parents with videshi lure . Onlee thing that should be encouraged is graduate level courses in STEM.
Shortcut to NGO and shady sponsorships from interested entities, and their assigned hunting grounds will remain India and her exploitable, converted dalits and the abrahamically engineered social fault lines. Just look at punjab and jharkand, to name just two damaged societies that have been created by these creatures

recruitment in inglisstan is more paying and prof's recommendation is a big factor.

Watch the tv screens and press bylines carefully, the media space in the DDM electronic channels, and also print in India is now mostly abrahamic dominated as these wokes have crowded out the non faithful and the prominent ones from non abrahamic ecosystem who are currently in the field will not last beyond a few more years as they are aging out and will soon be put to pasture to do ad film voiceovers and compeering obscure corporate events for daily dal roti.

these creatures will form the media "puncher wallas", the lower strata of the manipulative communications machinery that is slowly but surely being put in place by goebbelsian puppet masters of the BIF
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absolutely correct as case in point go and check qualifications of news anchors from English to hindi channels! Many of them have done social sciences, mass comm in India followed by a useless course in OxBridge/US, children of Coupta to Yechuri are based in West having done degress which are difficult to spell, they enter NGO, newschannels, world banks etc
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IndraD wrote:absolutely correct as case in point go and check qualifications of news anchors from English to hindi channels! Many of them have done social sciences, mass comm in India followed by a useless course in OxBridge/US, children of Coupta to Yechuri are based in West having done degress which are difficult to spell, they enter NGO, newschannels, world banks etc
IndraD ji

there are so many of them, some of today's field reporters are tomorow's news anchors

you are talking of one cabal and I am talking about another cabal, and both cabals in the same expanded anti India ecosystem and ultimately wind up reinforcing each other, whether here or outside India

the press secretary of the previous president is now in phoren lands, masquerading as a "lobbyist" and in his first few tweets/articles has already taken a position that is not in consonance with what he professed to believe earlier.

He has obviously leveraged his previous position to get some gora, who came in some delegation or the other, to see his erstwhile boss, to hire him.

did you see the sheer arrogance and contempt of that transplanted Indian anchor who interviewed Jaishankar at some european conference

she had worked for many years in an Indian channel, "got a chance" to go abroad, and obviously, she must have studied in India, and on reaching her new home, acquired an accent and the associated diction, and may be got a few oxford/cambridge media workshops under her belt. The gora system there saw the serendipity in unleashing her on India's FM, and that too, on a public forum / thinktank whatever.

Poor thing, of all the people, she had to go up against Jaishankar, who unflinchingly and very clinically rammed it up, you know where....

media is like air and electricity, and like you said, it is everywhere,
NGO, newschannels, world banks etc
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https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/th ... -Telegraph UK

Shamima Begum and other ISIS figthers from UK will claim they are victim of moden day slavery, powerful barristers from Canada, UK line up to protect them, looks likely their journey to Syria was part of govt programme.
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Slick and lying tante truss tried her best to get India to stop buying russian oil

these colonial cultured britshits have been slyly, illegally, and crookedly gaming the system all the while.



https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/slic ... -798j805mp


Slick use of loophole keeps Russian oil flowing into Britain

At least 39 cargos, worth more than £200m, have not been declared

The publication also claims that, according to British trade statistics, since March, the country has received £ 778 million worth of oil from the Russian Federation.


The UK continues to receive Russian oil, despite the sanctions : The Sunday Times.

There are two main ways to circumvent sanctions: pumping oil from tanker to tanker on the high seas and importing it through third countries, Sunday Times noted.

The publication also claims that, according to British trade statistics, since March, the country has received £ 778 million worth of oil from the Russian Federation.


Venezuela sells to Panama. Panama makes new certificate n sells Panama crude oil to USA. all owned by American business houses. I am sure it will be the same cartel behind this uk oil name change game.
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Sunday November 20 2022, 12.01am, The Sunday Times


As Vladimir Putin’s army bombarded Ukrainian soldiers trapped in the Azovstal steelworks in May, the tanker Mariner III pulled out of the south Russian port of Tuapse carrying nearly 200,000 barrels of oil.

After five days at sea, the 170m (558ft) ship stopped alongside a bigger tanker, the Greek-owned Marinoula, in the waters off Kalamata, Greece. Over the next 36 hours, the two vessels were connected by large rubber pipes while the Marinoula siphoned off some of the Mariner’s cargo. After the ship-to-ship transfer, the Marinoula sailed to the UK, where it docked at Immingham in Lincolnshire and, on June 6, offloaded about 250,000 barrels of oil.

Official records, however, declare that the UK received no oil from Russia in June or in July.
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In the land of Londonistan, UK seems set to adopt a formal definition of Islamophobia. The peaceful lobby has been phenomenally successful in their aim of projecting themselves as the perennially persecuted and playing the victim card. Teenage girls from Rochdale might disagree but hey, it’s the peaceful that are always victims… this measure will make it easier to prosecute any dissent against peacefuls as a hate crime. I suppose the next step is sharia adoption. No prizes for guessing which party supported this…

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/mi ... r-AA14lZQK

Of course, there is no such thing as Hinduphobia ..
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This is frankly preposterous. England released the last Christian blasphemer from jail about 150 yrs ago.

Let us not regress. What next, questioning the historicity of Jesus gets one burned at the stake? If Christians can live with scepticism, Hindus can live with taunts, what exactly is sacrosanct about Muslims?

Or perhaps Islam shows us the way to respect all religions. Precisely why Muslims should be treated in Britain and India the way Christians and Hindus are treated in Pakistan and Qatar.
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Well said sanjaykumarji.

Then we have this attempt at whitewashing:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-63699503

Apparently Shamima begum was a victim of child trafficking and hence the stripping of her citizenship was illegal.

The lady read about the deeds of ISIS on the Internet where they were beheading people and throwing gays over from tall buildings. She decided this was the life she wanted to have and left UK to join that group. Now apparently she doesn’t want the consequences of said actions.

There seems to be a well funded group that is willing to finance her legal defence. The amount of money being spent on her appeals must be staggering. That or the government is footing it.
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chetak wrote:....

Official records, however, declare that the UK received no oil from Russia in June or in July.
As was expected, Chetak ji

Same way the Bakis get Indian products in jihadistan via Dubai/gulf.

The awaam pays more, the middlemen (many are fronts for the Jernails) earn more, the politicians get to make grand statements against Hinduvta.. everyone happy

Including the kufr baniyas :D
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Shamima's case will highlight the control of peacefuls on the Labour party and the woke shitheads.
One angle of attack(or defence) is Child Trafficking
(There is a concentrated effort to bring in as many peacefuls as possible via the legal routes as well.
bulk of the nhs doctor recruitment off late is peacefuls either middle east or north African types
Nurses from Kerala
hard labour work from eastern europe
Illegals again peacefuls)
one possible line could be division amongst the peacefuls : Javid who recommended revocation a Punjabi Paxatn origin and Shamima a Bengali origin
Plus what Bangla Desh stated about her nationality status
A question does Bangla Desh allow dual nationality?? or not
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Tanaji wrote:Well said sanjaykumarji.
.......

There seems to be a well funded group that is willing to finance her legal defence. The amount of money being spent on her appeals must be staggering. That or the government is footing it.
Ibelieve that she is receiving Legal Aid. Ironically, if true, she is being financed by the UK taxpayer.
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In a major blow to Sanghis, Judges reject Scottish government's referendum vote case

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-scotland-63701835
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Scottish councillors vote not to adopt ‘Islamophobia’ definition
Posted: Mon, 21 Nov 2022

https://www.secularism.org.uk/news/2022 ... definition
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Aldonkar wrote:
Tanaji wrote:Well said sanjaykumarji.
.......

There seems to be a well funded group that is willing to finance her legal defence. The amount of money being spent on her appeals must be staggering. That or the government is footing it.
I believe that she is receiving Legal Aid. Ironically, if true, she is being financed by the UK taxpayer.
It's very likely that the ummah is backing her financially with resources to use her as a test case.

if they succeed, expect many more such "comfort women" heading for the jehadi war zones.

This will probably set a precedent of sorts that will be quoted over and over again to absolve others
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I have a suspicion her journey to Sy was organised by the then UK govt
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IndraD wrote:I have a suspicion her journey to Sy was organised by the then UK govt
wasn't there a similar case from kenada where the kenadian intelligence was directly involved in facilitating a jehadini's entry into jehadi lands
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One thing to learn from UKstan is the impact of a supranational government like EU. This has completely rendered political discourse on either side devoid of any contrast or meaning. Specifically looking at the whole postbrexit saga lawmakers and babus are all fiddling around having lost the ability to think for themselves and being mere rubber stamps and mouthpieces for WEF etc. while filling their coffers.
The 40K peaceful being lodged legally with slumlords shows you can check out but you can never leave!
This won’t be resolved for the next few decades !!
It is just a matter of time post Modi these tentacles whether thru various FTAs or WEF and it’s minions run amok in our lands. I hope sincerely that a solution for this world govt comes thru , it won’t be from UKstan though
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