Indo-UK News & Discussions- June 2017

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India should issue travel advisory to Indian tourists now!
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chilling msg for Hindus in UK. Paki is threatening BJP RSS Hindu
https://twitter.com/WasiqUK/status/1572 ... chdC0PHN9w
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The Muslim guy is straight away blaming the Hindus while this Hindu lady cant even utter the 'M' word and keep talking about "outsiders" , "youngsters' and could not even counter the BS the Muslim guy is spouting. Pathetic. She is one Krishna Bhan from the Hindu Council UK. As opposed to this dhimmi, Alpesh Patel in the above video was much more forceful and convincing.

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Folk now riots are spreading to Birmingham.
All be safe and take care of family and friends.
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'Islamist extremist influencers are rallying mobs via social media to come out in the hundreds in a bid to 'clean out Leicester's Hindus.'
'Nine Hindu families left Leicester due to the fear of Islamist violence. Some of them returned to remove visible symbols of Hinduism from their houses and cars'.

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Indigenous groups say protests will raise 'silenced' voices on Queen Elizabeth II's Day of Mourning Australia's aboriginals have a thing or two tp say about this whole monarchy business.
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -economics
Liz Truss urges world leaders to follow UK with trickle down economics
Reports that stamp duty will be cut with PM to use UN speech to argue for far-reaching tax reductions, putting her at odds with Joe Biden
Pippa Crerar, Tue 20 Sep 2022

Liz Truss is to urge world leaders to join Britain in introducing far-reaching tax cuts despite US president Joe Biden pouring scorn on “trickle down economics” ahead of their first bilateral talks in New York.
In a speech to the United Nations on Wednesday, the prime minister will argue the free world must prioritise economic growth to deny authoritarian states like Russia the chance to manipulate the global economy.
However, her embrace of Reaganite economic policy puts her on a collision course with the Democratic president who tweeted yesterday that he was “sick and tired” of the approach, which he claimed had never worked.
In her latest break from Treasury orthodoxy, Truss vowed on Tuesday to review all tax rates to help struggling households and businesses through the cost of living crisis. The prime minister’s remarks pave the way for a radical overhaul of the system that could include looking again at income tax brackets and come amid reports she is planning a cut to stamp duty as part of her emergency mini-budget on Friday.
In an interview at the top of the Empire State Building on Tuesday, she told the BBC: “We do have to take difficult decisions to get our economy right. We have to look at our tax rates. So corporation tax needs to be competitive with other countries so that we can attract that investment.”
She had already signalled that further tax cuts, beyond the changes expected on Friday, could be on the cards. She told reporters on the plane to the US: “Lower taxes lead to economic growth, there is no doubt in my mind about that.”
The Times reported that Truss believes that cutting stamp duty – which raises about £12bn a year for the Treasury – would aid growth by encouraging more people to move.
Truss’s first talks with Biden are set against a backdrop of tensions over post-Brexit trading arrangements in Northern Ireland. Despite the UK’s attempts to separate out the issues, the Biden administration has warned that a free trade deal is unlikely until the row over the Northern Ireland protocol is resolved.
In a move likely to disappoint Brexiters, Truss downplayed expectations that any trade agreement was imminent, saying: “There aren’t currently any negotiations taking place with the US and I don’t have any expectation that those are going to start in the short to medium term.”
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... -the-pound
Danny Blanchflower Criticizes Truss and Says Short the Pound
Former BOE official calls Truss economic policies ‘disastrous’
Kwarteng to set out government’s new fiscal plans on Friday
Reed Landberg, September 20, 2022

Former Bank of England policy maker Danny Blanchflower weighed in with criticism of UK Prime Minister Liz Truss’s economic plan, concluding that investors should “short the pound.”
The Dartmouth College economics professor who served at the UK central bank from 2006 to 2009 has long been critical of government plans that he says don’t go far enough to help people on low incomes.
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https://twitter.com/UnSubtleDesi/status ... Hi7SkGEMFA - I've been told by Hindu orgs in Leicester that several families (some say 200) have been displaced from Leicester and are unwilling to go back because they are scared of the violence by Islamists. Even if its 1 family displaced, it is a scathing indictment of @leicspolice
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Rony wrote:https://twitter.com/UnSubtleDesi/status ... Hi7SkGEMFA - I've been told by Hindu orgs in Leicester that several families (some say 200) have been displaced from Leicester and are unwilling to go back because they are scared of the violence by Islamists. Even if its 1 family displaced, it is a scathing indictment of @leicspolice
my question is go where? everywhere there are islamist. unless you know how to play victim card at the same time violently combat this cult no matter where you go, how much you concede you cannot be safe.
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Next step as per standard Islamist SOP - a 'helpful' / 'moderate' RoPer will approach the family and offer to buy their property immediately - at a much lower rate, of course.
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RoPerz claiming the Birmingham incident was due to the planes presence of a Hindu preacher (who never turned up). Who is this said preacher?
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^
More details here

Looks like the rioters wanted to prevent a speech from taking place. What is the UK constitutional position on freedom of expression?
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Rony wrote:
Good response by the Indian guy. Respond the leftist interviewers firmly and with sarcasm to show their lies and idiocy. No more beating around the bush.
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'Abolish the monarchy' protests held on Australian day of mourning for the Queen
The Melbourne rally was coordinated by Warriors of the Aboriginal Resistance, which said in a statement it stands "against racist colonial imperialism and its ongoing effects on us as Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples".

"While they mourn the Queen, we mourn everything her regime stole from us: our children, our land, our loved one's lives, our sacred sites, our histories," the organisation said.
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dsreedhar wrote:
Rony wrote:
Good response by the Indian guy. Respond the leftist interviewers firmly and with sarcasm to show their lies and idiocy. No more beating around the bush.
Alpesh Patel is a well known hedge fund manager quite involved with the Hindu community and old India hand here in the city. We need more like him to give it back though too many softies in the mainstream media which is biased anyway
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How long before 2002 is invoked by these p!gg!es as justification?
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I would love to see a set of indian MPs on a fact finding mission to Leicester.
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meet Majid Freeman , the hidden hand
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I think we have to be careful here Britshit are encouraging jihadis to attack Hindus by calling it a subcontinent problem which it is not. Islamic Jihad is global whether Hindus are present or not.
The Jihadis are rioting because now there is a very visible and real gap between immigrant Hindus social and cultural and economic clout compared to their population size when compared to these shit-heads and i am of the opinion that RSS has done a very good job in Hindu jagaran in last 4-5 years in re-kindling this pride in Hindutva.
Expect more Jihadi retaliation - the anglo-saxans will encourage it because it kills 2 birds in 1 stone - helps keep suppressed a culture and dharma that is way superior to theirs while at the same time painting these Islamists as jaahil followers of the desert cult which in turn will help them justify why their faith of love is so beautiful.
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call for mudi to rezine from studios of sky news et al in UK holding him responsible for rise of Hindutva, somehow he is still not responsible for 9/11
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First #Hindu man convicted in #LeicesterRiots. He'll be vulnerable person in prison where Muslims form 18%. Hope he abandons fascist #RSS ideology, meets good ppl & transforms. Unfortunately, #Muslims know too much about prisons, gangs, fighting, laws etc.

https://twitter.com/Moazzam_Begg/status ... i6yWv4eNYQ

blue tick Islamists threatening Hindus with violence in cell and more
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IndraD wrote:First #Hindu man convicted in #LeicesterRiots. He'll be vulnerable person in prison where Muslims form 18%. Hope he abandons fascist #RSS ideology, meets good ppl & transforms. Unfortunately, #Muslims know too much about prisons, gangs, fighting, laws etc.
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'Amos Noronha' .. doesn't seem to be a hindu surname. Rather a typical goan catholic one.

Here in India Christians, especially the recent converts, retain hindu name.
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^This basically shows that he was probably being attacked because he was Indian and had to carry a knife in self defense.

Why are we so keen to sign this FTA with the UK? What benefit does India get other than marginally more people allowed in to work (creating a skills drain in India). Perhaps this should be put on hold, given how Indian origin people are being attacked with native Brits doing at best nothing, and to a large extent facilitating it by giving a free hand to Islamists and putting out a Hindu-phobic narrative in the media.
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From a services point of view we have the capability to enact and execute all laws for IT, accounting, finance etc. I know Japan has a trade agreement with them as well, I wonder where we see opportunities. I don’t want them to have a new underclass of temp or perm IT and other Indian workers having to live in UK, pay crazy rents and fight for their security while the upper classes gaslight and benefits from their labour. Of course we could sell cars and other goods etc. but somehow a EU deal seems more beneficial. Also the dollar is gaining parity to Europe currencies so not sure if they actually will have higher purchasing capacity
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The Indian eves take the ODI series 3-0. The last ball was poetic with Deepti calmly taking off the bails of the non strikers end as the batswoman was backing up too early.

Cue the usual rona dhona…

This is the new India, we don’t give two hoots…
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Thanks based on that I saw the highlights!!
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As they rest of the UK media continues to hunt for Britain's Hindu terrorists the Hindu community of Leicester have closed their businesses, closed their temple and will have a self imposed curfew. They feel it is not ok to be Hindu here. #leicester
https://twitter.com/CharlotteFLit/statu ... pzsaa7N1Dg
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From India Islamists and naxals writing for The Print, Wire are painting aggressor as aggrieved doing an equal equal between Modi and Obl, Hindus & ISIS this is picked by naxal Hinduphobic counterparts in UK and force multiplied
Leicester fire a result of orthodox Muslim clergy of ’90s vs new communal Hindu migrants
Global Islam versus a newly globalised Hinduism will not only strengthen Britain’s Right-wing politics but also impose a burden that the State may not be able to carry https://theprint.in/opinion/leicester-f ... s/1140987/


the wire holding RSS (zionist) responible for Liecester, picked by British counterparts
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Islamist preacher accused of ‘stirring up hatred’ in Leicester
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/0 ... leicester/
An Islamist preacher who was involved in anti-Jewish demonstrations in London has been accused of “stirring up hatred” in Leicester, where attacks on Hindu temples and shops led to dozens of arrests.

Mohammed Hijab was one of the leading figures during demonstrations in the capital that were condemned as anti-Semitic by Jewish groups.
It can now be revealed that Mr Hijab was last week also in Leicester, where anti-Hindu demonstrations turned violent and later spread to Smethwick, in the West Midlands.

Police confirmed that the clashes have been fuelled by young people travelling from other cities. Mr Hijab, a 30-year-old preacher and self-proclaimed scholar, was filmed in a busy shopping street in Leicester telling a group of Muslim men - several of whom were masked: “[Hindus] believe in reincarnation, what a humiliation and pathetic thing for them to be reincarnated into. Some pathetic, weak, cowardly people like that. I’d rather be an animal, I’d rather be reincarnated as a grasshopper bruv, that’s the truth.”

Referring to groups of right wing Hindu nationalists he adds: “So how come in Leicester, the Hindutva are coming out . . . trying to act like gangsters? Don’t ever, I’m saying this directly to all the so-called Hindutva wannabe gangsters, don’t ever come out like that again do you understand?”

Mr Hijab repeatedly asks the assembled crowd: "Are they going to come out like that again?”

'Muslim patrol in Leicester'
After the crowd shouts “never”, Mr Hijab adds: “Because if they do come out, are we going to be here yes or no?” and the crowd responds: “Yes” before chanting “Allahu Akbar”.

The film was posted to his YouTube channel, which has nearly 600,000 subscribers, on September 19. The previous day he had posted on Instagram a photograph of himself leading a group of masked men along a street, with the caption: “Muslim patrol in Leicester”.

A seperate video shows a small number of Muslim men trying to stop a megaphone wielding Mr Hijab from addressing the Leicester crowd, telling him: “You're going to incite them, you are only going to make things worse! Put the mike down. Show some restraint! You’ve said your piece.”
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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-62658669
Swapping Hong Kong for Crewe: 'We won't go back'
Elaine Chong & Patrick Clahane, 25/9/2022

Thousands of people from Hong Kong have moved to the UK in the past year. Many have fled tensions with Chinese authorities there - others say they are attracted by a slower pace of life. The BBC has been speaking to some new arrivals about life in the UK.
Yowin Mo, Eddie Wong and their nine-year-old daughter Hayley swapped their high-rise flat in Hong Kong for a two-bed semi in Crewe, in the north-west of England. They didn't know anyone here and had never visited the UK before they moved, but so far they've had a good impression. "Most British people are polite and laid-back," says Yowin.
It wasn't an easy decision for the trio to leave their friends, family and jobs behind. "My dad cried, he didn't want to leave," remembers Hayley. She wasn't sure about the move either, but getting a puppy helped her settle in.
In Hong Kong, Yowin's marketing job was very demanding and she worked long hours. Eddie was a photojournalist. Now they've given up their hectic lives in a bustling world city to move to a small town with lower house prices and good schools.
"We don't expect to be rich," Yowin says. "We are just hoping to have a simple life here, and hopefully Hayley can grow up happy."
Yowin and Eddie felt leaving Hong Kong was in Hayley's best interests. She has happily settled into the local primary school, where 11 other Hong Kong children have since joined.
Yowin says going to school in Hong Kong was far more stressful - there was no playground to run around in and Hayley had homework to do until 19:00 every night.
But her main concern was that if her daughter had stayed in Hong Kong she would be "brainwashed". Yowin says Hong Kong's education system has changed drastically because children are now being taught the Chinese state-approved curriculum. She also fears the phasing-out of the speaking of Cantonese in schools, and that Hayley would be taught in Mandarin Chinese. "That's one of the reasons I don't want to stay in Hong Kong."
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They're far from alone in wanting to make the life-changing move. Government statistics suggest 140,000 Hongkongers have applied to live in the UK under a new visa route. It was brought in last year in response to China imposing a controversial new security law in Hong Kong, which the UK said was an erosion of freedoms and rights.
The route allows millions of people from Hong Kong - who applied for a type of nationality called the British National Overseas (BNO) citizenship before 1997, when the UK handed the former colony back to China - to apply to live, work and study in the UK. Family members can travel with them. After five years they can apply to stay permanently.
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Md Hijab is as rabidly hate filled as they come. SM following has caused a bunch of cojones to sprout, UKstan govt ignores such pestilence at its own peril.
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How do you know that all that they are doing is genuinely ignoring him? They have a long history of creating and sponsoring such people, so he could be a means to some ends that they have in mind.
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Quite possible. By ignoring I meant not going after him for hate speech etc...
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That Freeman guy etc are no exceptions. They are recruiters to send chaps again in the ME if some other state is to be dismantled. Unkil is smart to keep them on the continent. Sad thing was a local bumpkin lorry driver went with this Freeman’s aid convoy to Syria thinking he was doing charity etc at the time and promptly became cutlet for EyeYesEyeYes
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once in a while these monsters turn against creator itself resulting in Manchester bomming like incident
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BBC: Did misinformation fan the flames in Leicester?
When we spoke to people in Leicester, either community leaders, or those who otherwise had experience of the disorder, they singled out particular pieces of misinformation that had fuelled tension in the run-up to the worst of the disorder on the weekend of 17-18 September.

One false story was referenced several times.

"Today my 15-year-old daughter… was nearly kidnapped," read a post uploaded on to Facebook, supposedly by a concerned father. "3 Indian boys got out and asked her if she was Muslim. She said yes and one guy tried to grab her."

The post was liked hundreds of times, not on Facebook but on Twitter after Majid Freeman, a community activist, shared the family's story on 13 September. He also shared a message from the police which he said was "confirming the incident which took place yesterday [12 September]".

A day later, Leicestershire Police issued a statement after investigating and stated that "the incident did not take place". Majid Freeman deleted his posts and said the attempted abduction had not happened and that his initial version had been based on conversation with the family making the allegation.

But damage had already been done and this false kidnap claim kept being regurgitated on other platforms.

But there had been no kidnap attempt.
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Out of jail Islamist extremist Anjem Choudary calls for Muslim patrols, instigates Muslims to attack Hindus, asks Hindus to embrace . "convert, leave or die" where have we heard that before?
https://www.opindia.com/2022/09/hate-pr ... et-hindus/
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Looks like Pound Sterling is devaluing against the USD. 1.00 USD = 0.95 GBP. For a country that imports most of its energy, this is bad and will get worse as winter sets in. UK may go into a recession followed by a depression. GBP is devaluing against the INR too. 1 GBP = 85 INR.
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