Indo-UK News & Discussions- June 2017

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You complain about the bad food in a restaurant to the manager and the chef, not the dishwasher,” a French official responded when asked why his country’s ambassador to London was not being recalled – unlike the ones to the US and Australia – after the Aukus agreement. :rotfl:
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That must have hurt a lot. :D
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British Indians/OCI cardholders form bulk of travellers to India. They will make ruckus if we reciprocate. Which is probably why reciprocity not applied. Top leadership on both sides wants improved ties. Strong anti-Indian prejudices in UK bureaucracy are creating hurdles.

https://twitter.com/kanwalsibal/status/ ... 99028?s=21



And this is why Indo-U.K. ties are inherently limited despite whatever the British PM wants. David Cameron tried a decade ago to improve Indian ties and yet we are still here


Boris has promised that india is one the the nations that will pick up the slack after BREXIT and yet U.K. babus are still playing these games against India even when India (SII) produced millions of AZ doses for the U.K.


Things are only going to get worse as Paki diaspora grows in U.K. and rises to ever higher ranks


U.K. is a lost cause for India
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U.K. is a lost case for the Englishmen themselves, what to talk about relationship with India. Soon there would be more Jihadi/Fundoos than Christians in UK.
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It is the Jihadis in UKstan that are probably the cause for this - their motherland (Pukistan) is far behind India in vaccination progress but this way they can continue to ensure equal-equal.
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osme of the old posts about specific areas talk extensively about what's happening here..even during armenia-azb conflict or palestine conflict..the number of people putting up azb or palestinian flags in uk was unbelievable many stickers on cars too...i wont blame paxis for this..even though they are a major voting base..it is the subliminal old colonial master mentality that makes them do this ...also dont rule out the wink nudge by local hotels and medical firms who have been getting their businesses through quaratines earlier or the testing kits that cost you ~£200 ..best for india is to be very transactional with ocassional slaps like to teresa may's saree antics or some supply delays..to their vaccines..unless we play such games they would take us for granted
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KSingh wrote:British Indians/OCI cardholders form bulk of travellers to India. They will make ruckus if we reciprocate. Which is probably why reciprocity not applied. Top leadership on both sides wants improved ties. Strong anti-Indian prejudices in UK bureaucracy are creating hurdles.

https://twitter.com/kanwalsibal/status/ ... 99028?s=21
I don't get this logic. OCI cardholders are British citizens. If they are inconvenienced by India's retaliatory measures to something their own govt. did they can cause a ruckus outside their own MP's offices and tell them their govt. needs to change their rules first. A ruckus is exactly what we need to publicize this racist directive from the UK govt. Meanwhile we can take care while formulating the rules that Indian citizens traveling to India from the UK are not affected.
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KSingh wrote:British Indians/OCI cardholders form bulk of travellers to India. They will make ruckus if we reciprocate. Which is probably why reciprocity not applied. Top leadership on both sides wants improved ties. Strong anti-Indian prejudices in UK bureaucracy are creating hurdles.

https://twitter.com/kanwalsibal/status/ ... 99028?s=21
OCIs are British nationals. Why are they NOT 'making a ruckus' right now ? If the OCIs are the main bloc affected, THEY need to be at the forefront of convincing gov.uk to fix their own stupid policy.
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SinghS wrote:U.K. is a lost case for the Englishmen themselves, what to talk about relationship with India. Soon there would be more Jihadi/Fundoos than Christians in UK.
Which is why the sucking up to Australia, where droves of Britshits are moving to.
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This handwritten certificate is acceptable in uk while indian barcoded digital one is not!

Bhai Daryaganj ke kisi shop wale ne ye dekh liya na,
10-10₹ me aise jitne chaiye utne certificates milenge

#UKVaccineRacism

https://twitter.com/the_goodsurgeon/sta ... 49348?s=21


Seems unfathomable that the British would do something as blatantly discriminatory to India as this without it being intentional.
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KSingh wrote:This handwritten certificate is acceptable in uk while indian barcoded digital one is not!

Bhai Daryaganj ke kisi shop wale ne ye dekh liya na,
10-10₹ me aise jitne chaiye utne certificates milenge

#UKVaccineRacism

https://twitter.com/the_goodsurgeon/sta ... 49348?s=21


Seems unfathomable that the British would do something as blatantly discriminatory to India as this without it being intentional.
BJ had been lobbying very hard with the americans to let brits visit US ,apparently the sticking point being vaccine recogn etc..think US finally did..but BJ couldnt get his trade deal , Bidnot too busy. americans doing to brits what brits are doing to others ?
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https://twitter.com/SwarajyaMag/status/ ... 36545?s=20

UK Updates List Of Vaccines To Accept Covishield; Still No Clarity On Acceptance Of CoWIN Certificate.
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India warns UK of reciprocal steps over vaccine ‘discrimination’
NEW DELHI: Describing the non-recognition of Covishield by the UK as a discriminatory policy, India Tuesday warned Britain of “reciprocal measures’’ if the latter didn’t address India’s concerns over its new travel rules.
Foreign secretary Harsh Shringla said the issue had also been taken up by foreign minister S Jaishankar with the UK authorities. The friction point has arisen at a time when India-UK ties are seen on an upswing with the two sides working to complete a trade pact. The new rules are seen to seriously inconvenience Indian travellers.
“The basic issue is that here is a vaccine, Covishield, which is a licensed product of the UK company, manufactured in India of which we have supplied five million doses to the UK at the request of the government of UK,” said Shringla, pointing to the inconsistency in the rules announced by the British government. According to the new rules, Indian travellers who have received both doses of Covishield vaccine manufactured by Serum Institute of India will be considered unvaccinated and will have to self-isolate for 10 days.
“We understand that this is being used under the national health system, and, therefore, non-recognition of Covishield is a discriminatory policy and does impact those of our citizens travelling to the UK,” Shringla added.
Sources said India will take reciprocal action against travellers from the UK if its concerns are not addressed by October 4, when the new British rules will come into effect. The foreign secretary said he has been told that certain “assurances” were being given by the UK that the issue will be resolved.
“We have also offered to some of the partner countries the option of mutual recognition of vaccination certificates... We have to see how it goes. But if we do not get satisfaction, we would be within our rights to impose reciprocal measures," Shringla said.
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The India High Commission in London slammed remarks by Pakistani-origin Naz Shah MP who referred to Modi as the "butcher of Gujarat" during the House of Commons debate.


This is the kind of rhetoric that’s coming out in British parliament these days, Pakis are one of the fastest growing demographics in the U.K., what do we think they will be saying in 10 years?


This is why British-Indian ties are always going to be limited
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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/fuel ... -k9f9zxbr5

One of Britain’s biggest oil refineries is teetering on the brink of collapse, piling further potential pressure on crisis-riven petrol stations.

The Stanlow oil refinery in Ellesmere Port, which supplies about a sixth of Britain’s road fuel, is in urgent talks with HM Revenue & Customs over hundreds of millions of pounds it has to start repaying this week unless it can agree a new deal.

Britain’s second largest refinery is owned by the billionaire Ruia brothers Shashi and Ravi through their company Essar Oil UK, which has been under huge financial strain during the pandemic.
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Rape & murder culture in Londonistan

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-pol ... 021-07-09/
Wayne Couzens, 48, a serving London officer who guarded diplomatic premises, had previously admitted rape and kidnap.

He abducted Everard, 33, into a hire car as she walked home from a friend's house in south London on March 3 and her body was later found in woodland around 50 miles (80 km) away in southeast England. A post-mortem last month concluded she had died as a result of compression of the neck.
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India retaliates, slaps 10-day quarantine for all arrivals from UK
NEW DELHI: In a tit for tat move, India has now mandated 10-day quarantine for all arrivals from the UK.
The health ministry has issued new guidelines for UK arrivals, reciprocating UK's decision not to waive off quarantine for fully vaccinated (with WHO approved Covishield) travellers from India starting October 4- something being allowed for people coming from most non red list (which India is too) countries.
Under the new rules, irrespective of their vaccination status, those flying from UK to India need to, among other things, "undergo mandatory quarantine at home or at the destination address for 10 days after arrival in India. All such passengers under isolation/quarantine shall be regularly monitored."
So Indians returning home or NRIs/PIOs can quarantine at their homes here at no extra cost. But those who do not have a home or other place of stay here, will need to quarantine in a hotel for 10 days- an expensive thing that visitors from India also do in some countries. This will mainly affect foreigners (with no base here) coming to India.
While Indian and UK authorities have been in talks over this discrimination for weeks now, the rules have so far not been relaxed for Indian travellers to UK from next Monday. India's new rules will be applicable from the same date, October 4.
"Considering the trajectory of COVID-19 cases in United Kingdom and presence of all four Variants of Concern, the travel advisory as issued by this ministry is being modified," the Union health ministry said in a communication to the aviation ministry.
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Ashokk wrote:India retaliates, slaps 10-day quarantine for all arrivals from UK
NEW DELHI: In a tit for tat move, India has now mandated 10-day quarantine for all arrivals from the UK.
The health ministry has issued new guidelines for UK arrivals, reciprocating UK's decision not to waive off quarantine for fully vaccinated (with WHO approved Covishield) travellers from India starting October 4- something being allowed for people coming from most non red list (which India is too) countries.
Under the new rules, irrespective of their vaccination status, those flying from UK to India need to, among other things, "undergo mandatory quarantine at home or at the destination address for 10 days after arrival in India. All such passengers under isolation/quarantine shall be regularly monitored."
So Indians returning home or NRIs/PIOs can quarantine at their homes here at no extra cost. But those who do not have a home or other place of stay here, will need to quarantine in a hotel for 10 days- an expensive thing that visitors from India also do in some countries. This will mainly affect foreigners (with no base here) coming to India.
While Indian and UK authorities have been in talks over this discrimination for weeks now, the rules have so far not been relaxed for Indian travellers to UK from next Monday. India's new rules will be applicable from the same date, October 4.
"Considering the trajectory of COVID-19 cases in United Kingdom and presence of all four Variants of Concern, the travel advisory as issued by this ministry is being modified," the Union health ministry said in a communication to the aviation ministry.
मोदी है तो मुमकिन है

Best to keep two bit countries like the UK where they belong and reciprocate their every discriminate action against India

god save the britshits, because, for sure, India will not
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https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-ne ... 14111.html
Engaging with India on vaccine certification recognition: UK reacts to reciprocal move
Meenakshi Ray, New Delhi, Oct 02, 2021

India’s decision came days after the UK announced new travel rules under which Indian travellers, even those who have received both doses of the Covishield, will be considered unvaccinated.
The UK has said it is “continuing to engage” with India on technical cooperation to expand its recognition of vaccine certification after New Delhi decided to impose reciprocal measures on British nationals. UK nationals arriving in the country from Britain will have to undergo mandatory quarantine at home or in the destination address for 10 days after their arrival. "The UK is continuing to work on expanding the policy to countries and territories across the globe in a phased approach. We are continuing to engage with the Government of India on technical cooperation to expand UK recognition of vaccine certification to people vaccinated by a relevant public health body in India," the British High Commission spokesperson said in a statement according to news agency ANI.
According to the spokesperson, the United Kingdom is open to travel and they are seeing a lot of people going from India to the UK, be it tourists, business people or students. "Over 62,500 student visas have been issued in the year ending June 2021, which is an increase of almost 30% as compared to the previous year. We want to make the process of travelling as easy as possible,” the spokesperson added.
India’s decision came days after the UK announced new travel rules under which Indian travellers, even those who have received both doses of the Covishield, will be considered unvaccinated.
The UK has said it is “continuing to engage” with India on technical cooperation to expand its recognition of vaccine certification after New Delhi decided to impose reciprocal measures on British nationals. UK nationals arriving in the country from Britain will have to undergo mandatory quarantine at home or in the destination address for 10 days after their arrival. "The UK is continuing to work on expanding the policy to countries and territories across the globe in a phased approach. We are continuing to engage with the Government of India on technical cooperation to expand UK recognition of vaccine certification to people vaccinated by a relevant public health body in India," the British High Commission spokesperson said in a statement according to news agency ANI.
According to the spokesperson, the United Kingdom is open to travel and they are seeing a lot of people going from India to the UK, be it tourists, business people or students. "Over 62,500 student visas have been issued in the year ending June 2021, which is an increase of almost 30% as compared to the previous year. We want to make the process of travelling as easy as possible,” the spokesperson added.
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-heal ... ufacturer/
Britain’s Covid entry rules are ‘total chaos’, says global vaccine manufacturer chief
Exclusive: Adar Poonawalla, CEO of the Serum Institute of India, calls on the UK to recognise the Indian made vaccine at the border
Joe Wallen, 30 September 2021

The British government’s refusal to recognise Indian-made doses of the Oxford AstraZeneca vaccine at its borders is causing “total chaos” across the globe, according to the chief executive of the world’s largest vaccine manufacturer.
Talking exclusively to The Telegraph, Adar Poonawalla, CEO of the Serum Institute of India (SII), confirmed on Thursday that his company would resume exports of Covid-19 vaccines in October after a deadly spike in cases in India led to a six-month export freeze.
But Mr Poonawalla called on the UK and others to recognise the Indian made vaccine at their borders.
“It is total chaos. I am calling on all countries to work together, harmoniously, to sign a mutually agreed pact. We can at least acknowledge a certification programme using vaccines approved by the World Health Organization (WHO),” said Mr Poonawalla.
“If you take a WHO approved vaccine, it shouldn't matter which country you take it in – it is the same vaccine that has been made by the same people.”
Currently, the UK only recognises AstraZeneca shots which have been administered in the UK and Europe at its external borders.
Travellers who have been vaccinated with the same product in Asia and Africa, where the jab is widely distributed through the Covax vaccine facility, are still subject to a 10-day quarantine – although the requirement that this is done in a hotel was recently dropped.
Outraged Indian politicians have described the policy as “racist” and “discriminating”.
In his first interview for six months, Mr Poonawalla, who was educated in Britain and attended the University of Westminster, told The Telegraph he had personally donated £1 million to fund the hotel quarantines of thousands of Indian students arriving in the UK.
Mr Poonawalla said he was moved by stories of Indian teenagers from underprivileged backgrounds who fought against the odds to secure places at British universities but were then subject to an unaffordable quarantine – despite being fully vaccinated with Covishield.
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kit wrote:https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/fuel ... -k9f9zxbr5
One of Britain’s biggest oil refineries is teetering on the brink of collapse, piling further potential pressure on crisis-riven petrol stations.

The Stanlow oil refinery in Ellesmere Port, which supplies about a sixth of Britain’s road fuel, is in urgent talks with HM Revenue & Customs over hundreds of millions of pounds it has to start repaying this week unless it can agree a new deal.
disha wrote:Rape & murder culture in Londonistan
https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-pol ... 021-07-09/
Wayne Couzens, 48, a serving London officer who guarded diplomatic premises, had previously admitted rape and kidnap.
After Brexit, Britain is the best third world country to live in :P in all of Europe.
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la.khan wrote:
kit wrote:https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/fuel ... -k9f9zxbr5
One of Britain’s biggest oil refineries is teetering on the brink of collapse, piling further potential pressure on crisis-riven petrol stations.

The Stanlow oil refinery in Ellesmere Port, which supplies about a sixth of Britain’s road fuel, is in urgent talks with HM Revenue & Customs over hundreds of millions of pounds it has to start repaying this week unless it can agree a new deal.
disha wrote:Rape & murder culture in Londonistan
https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-pol ... 021-07-09/
After Brexit, Britain is the best third world country to live in :P in all of Europe.
Let them close few petrol stations. The shitty drink they sell in the name of coffee for 5 pounds is a daylight robbery. Apart from highstreet......it is a developing country.it is funny how restaurants without table cloths are called high class restaurants. Fish n chips is a health hassard. Hygenics at curry joints is worse than restaurants in Poland or Romania.
Houses are cramped and as little as doll house. I wonder how climb the stairs.Public descent is controlled by taxes. People have no time left to protest. Common man do 2-3 jobs to just to survive. Every time I visit UK I ask myself a question.....what is wrong with them.
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R. Singhji,
The mills of God grind slowly, yet they grind exceeding small. Or you could say it is Karma.
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rsingh wrote:
la.khan wrote:
After Brexit, Britain is the best third world country to live in :P in all of Europe.
Let them close few petrol stations. The shitty drink they sell in the name of coffee for 5 pounds is a daylight robbery. Apart from highstreet......it is a developing country.it is funny how restaurants without table cloths are called high class restaurants. Fish n chips is a health hassard. Hygenics at curry joints is worse than restaurants in Poland or Romania.
Houses are cramped and as little as doll house. I wonder how climb the stairs.Public descent is controlled by taxes. People have no time left to protest. Common man do 2-3 jobs to just to survive. Every time I visit UK I ask myself a question.....what is wrong with them.
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Rsatchi wrote:
rsingh wrote:
Let them close few petrol stations. The shitty drink they sell in the name of coffee for 5 pounds is a daylight robbery. Apart from highstreet......it is a developing country.it is funny how restaurants without table cloths are called high class restaurants. Fish n chips is a health hassard. Hygenics at curry joints is worse than restaurants in Poland or Romania.
Houses are cramped and as little as doll house. I wonder how climb the stairs.Public descent is controlled by taxes. People have no time left to protest. Common man do 2-3 jobs to just to survive. Every time I visit UK I ask myself a question.....what is wrong with them.
Singhji
No free loot and no country to 'Run Opium' no :lol: :lol:
Not at all? :(( :((
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This may be OT for the thread (mods please move if required). Following from the above posts re: the lack of quality of life in UKstan, would you recommend a 31 year old Indian lawyer to take up an offer with a London law firm that pays 150k GBP? We have a young family and currently stay in Mumbai.

Is there any benefits in moving, other than the opportunity to work with a bigger (more professionally run) organization? I'd imagine the air quality/ access to parks etc. would be an obvious upside. But I'd probably save lesser money than what I do in Mumbai and have to deal with white pakis with their subtle racism and shite weather.
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For professionals, the opportunity to make connections is useful. Plus if it helps qualify for higher level jobs, that might make a move worth it even if temporarily. Don't know much about the UK school system, but up to age 10/11 kids are able to move in/out without too much trouble.
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Going abroad for study or work at the very least enlarges one's understanding and world view. If economic conditions are right for your needs and aspirations, make a 3-5 year plan of what you can gain from it and what it implies for yourself and your family. Keep some options open to return without regrets if things that are important to you career wise do not materialise as you expect.

Living abroad has its caveats in terms of cost of living (housing, insurance, taxes, vehicle, repairs & upkeep, holidays etc.). The cost of bad behaviour/getting into trouble with the law (like drunk driving you can often get away with in desh if you don't cause a big accident), or getting sued etc. is usually very high. Domestic help is unaffordable and be ready to DIY for many things. And of course leaving behind ageing parents, relatives and friends.

Don't care for subtle racism, its everywhere if you go looking. Ignore it or put such people in their place. But never lose sleep over it.

Air is better but food tends to be very sugar and fat loaded, alcohol is ubiquitous, so watch what and how you eat and drink, join a club or a local sporting association to stay fit. Thats a big plus if you are fitness/sport oriented, lot more options and facilities there. Excellent Govt provided health care is a big plus in Europe.

If you are levelheaded and have realistic expectations, it will be an enjoyable experience so I'd say go for it. There are many ways now to stay connected with Desh and contribute if you are so inclined.
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Nsmith wrote:This may be OT for the thread (mods please move if required). Following from the above posts re: the lack of quality of life in UKstan, would you recommend a 31 year old Indian lawyer to take up an offer with a London law firm that pays 150k GBP? We have a young family and currently stay in Mumbai.

Is there any benefits in moving, other than the opportunity to work with a bigger (more professionally run) organization? I'd imagine the air quality/ access to parks etc. would be an obvious upside. But I'd probably save lesser money than what I do in Mumbai and have to deal with white pakis with their subtle racism and shite weather.
I lived and worked in London for about 6 months. Spent most of my career in Mumbai and now in Bangalore.
Your expenses in London will probably be 3 times more than India and you would want to save a lot more in Rupee terms, so the pay has to be proportionately higher. Apart from income tax, medical insurance and local council taxes can add up.

Professionally there's a huge upside to a London stint, particularly in Law, or finance. It is a truly international city and interacting with people
from so many different cultures broadens one's mindset. The regulars in my daily life outside of work, were the Romanian bar girl in my local pub, the Turkish guy in the Kabab takeaway, Ukrainian cleaning lady and the Sri Lankan grocery store owner.
The quality of life is way better than Mumbai - Parks, Museums, air quality, tourist attractions etc. I'd recommend it for a work stint, but not (if you're professionally successful in India) to live permanently.
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Nesmith ji.it has been explained very well. Few more things. Education of your kids. Education in normal school not good enough for us Indians. Good private schools , that may lead to 'easy access to Oxbridge are very expensive.. For us Indian, most important is good education for kids. We want them to qualify for good Universities. So about cutting corners on education is not good.
Secondly it depends on lifestyle.one word you will hear on regular basis is POSH. Ladies tend to get this addiction. Mumbai posh is not same as London posh.so please persuade your GHQ to stay away from this disease :mrgreen: it is very very expensive addiction for us mortal Indians. Otherwise ..Bismillah :D
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Thanks to all senior BRFites for your inputs. I'm looking at it as a 3-5 year stint as of now, unless SHQ takes a liking to being all NRI, uber posh London mum. :P

Dean's Ji, yes it's only the money aspect which is not clear. My post tax take home in London will be 2x on my India salary, but the expenses will be 3x.

Rsingh Ji, my understanding was that while private schools are a status symbol, the state schools are pretty decent (with grammar school sfor 11+ kids being the best academically). Generally, do indian expat kids go to state or private?
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Nsmith wrote:Thanks to all senior BRFites for your inputs. I'm looking at it as a 3-5 year stint as of now, unless SHQ takes a liking to being all NRI, uber posh London mum. :P

Dean's Ji, yes it's only the money aspect which is not clear. My post tax take home in London will be 2x on my India salary, but the expenses will be 3x.

Rsingh Ji, my understanding was that while private schools are a status symbol, the state schools are pretty decent (with grammar school sfor 11+ kids being the best academically). Generally, do indian expat kids go to state or private?
150k is decent sir. ~60k will go on taxes (~39%) ~30k will go on decent housing (you can go cheaper if you don't mind the commute). 8-12k per kid for private schools but state schools are not bad.
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^^^
Well said. But if you want kid to network with worlds future leaders then top 10 private schools. Count min 25k. It is all about networking for future. If you do not care if his friend is son of Pakistani Halal shop worker that is your choice. I am against this but truth is truth. Grammer schools are difficult to enter. Again all this depends upon capabilities of kid. This is what I felt.. top school tag go till job interviews. World is like this. But am not British. I am living in Brusselabad onlee. My experience comes from arranging education for talketive brats. :(( my kids are not typical agyakari indian kids.They are very independent and SHQ doesn't like it :((
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^^^Grammar schools not very very difficult
Public schools need to shell out quite a bit and hoity-toity looking down on Hoi-polly
Good state schools and Kumon the other options.
For this prior scout the area of residence as that determines the admission to school
But most important expect kids after 2/3 years being quite independent/secretive and a tendency to turn into 'Coconuts' :roll: :((
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Nsmith wrote:Thanks to all senior BRFites for your inputs. I'm looking at it as a 3-5 year stint as of now, unless SHQ takes a liking to being all NRI, uber posh London mum. :P

Dean's Ji, yes it's only the money aspect which is not clear. My post tax take home in London will be 2x on my India salary, but the expenses will be 3x.
In many western cities expenses will also be around 2.5X, but London tends to be more expensive. I worked in Moscow and Istanbul, where expenses were 2X which matched my 2X of Indian salary.
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India should boycott the commonwealth games next year in UK.

To reduce India's overall medals tally they had removed shooting just for the current edition of the Games (India had won 16 medals in the previous games in 2018). They were pacifying India not to boycott the games by holding a separate commonwealth shooting championship during the year. India had reluctantly agreed. Now all bets should be off.

Previous PM Gujral had called UK a third rate power way back in 1997 so now is the time to show this Uncle Sam lapdog where it really stands.
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I agree, India should skip the Commonwealth Games. Beyond the geopolitical act, it provides nothing useful to India anymore. It overlaps the Asian Games year, and this makes it untenable - athletes can only realistically do one of the two, unless the CWG is in the southern hemisphere as it was in 2018. This time that is not the case.

CWG: July 28-August 8 2022
AG: Sept 10-25 2022

There's. no top sportsman who's going to want to do both so close to each other. The AG is much higher standard in all the sports we need to do well in the Olympics at - archery, badminton, boxing, wrestling, shooting... athletics is about the only one neatly on par. There's no sport where being in CWG over AG is clearly better.
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Nsmith wrote:Thanks to all senior BRFites for your inputs. I'm looking at it as a 3-5 year stint as of now, unless SHQ takes a liking to being all NRI, uber posh London mum. :P

Dean's Ji, yes it's only the money aspect which is not clear. My post tax take home in London will be 2x on my India salary, but the expenses will be 3x.

Rsingh Ji, my understanding was that while private schools are a status symbol, the state schools are pretty decent (with grammar school sfor 11+ kids being the best academically). Generally, do indian expat kids go to state or private?
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