Indo-UK News & Discussions- June 2017
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This will change when Indian students of which a large majority are hindus, stop queuing up for UKstan universities. Pakis can put hinduphobic pressure but cant pay and send bright students to these places.
The impact of the west having world leading schools and universities and the opportunities they provide in high end research, networking and jobs cant be understated. With oxfords, cambridges, LSEs, Inseads, Harvards and MITs ityadi they wield sustainable soft power on Indian elite class thats invisible in plain sight.
They have maintained and marketed it for so long that the progeny of our big business owners, politicians, babus and many of the most talented youth are all sucked out and made to work for the west. Even our rock star EAM Dr SJs son is in the US - though his patriotism is beyond doubt.
This will be the biggest hurdle if we are ever forced to decouple with the west. We have to take on this enduring colonial dividend that the west continues to enjoy, and at some point, reverse the trend.
The impact of the west having world leading schools and universities and the opportunities they provide in high end research, networking and jobs cant be understated. With oxfords, cambridges, LSEs, Inseads, Harvards and MITs ityadi they wield sustainable soft power on Indian elite class thats invisible in plain sight.
They have maintained and marketed it for so long that the progeny of our big business owners, politicians, babus and many of the most talented youth are all sucked out and made to work for the west. Even our rock star EAM Dr SJs son is in the US - though his patriotism is beyond doubt.
This will be the biggest hurdle if we are ever forced to decouple with the west. We have to take on this enduring colonial dividend that the west continues to enjoy, and at some point, reverse the trend.
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Is your favourite beach one of England's sewage hotspots? Analysis shows water companies dumped waste on country's Blue Flag beaches 1,504 times last year - as top five worst areas are revealed
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -year.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -year.html
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Meanwhile, today's news/photographs caught my eye..
Narayan Murthy (InfoSys) is a fellow IIT Kanpur grad student (late 60's)..His wife is Sudha Murthy, chairperson of the Infosys Foundation was presented with Padma Bhushan 2023!
Among the family present at the award ceremony was Akshata Murty (First lady of UK).
Interestingly Akshata Murty - without much fuss/protocol/security was sitting with her family, but
Govt officials later moved her to the front rowt row per protocol when it was noticed. (Pictured with EAM Dr. JaiShankar).
Narayan Murthy (InfoSys) is a fellow IIT Kanpur grad student (late 60's)..His wife is Sudha Murthy, chairperson of the Infosys Foundation was presented with Padma Bhushan 2023!
Among the family present at the award ceremony was Akshata Murty (First lady of UK).
Interestingly Akshata Murty - without much fuss/protocol/security was sitting with her family, but
Govt officials later moved her to the front rowt row per protocol when it was noticed. (Pictured with EAM Dr. JaiShankar).
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UK Labour Party trying to purge Hindus from its ranks?
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The Rahul Gandhi link in LSE anti-India Hinduphobia case
Mukulika Banerjee, who has been a close associate of Rahul Gandhi, could have been powering this hate campaign against Karan Kataria, ostensibly for having links with the Hindu right, the RSS in particular
https://www.firstpost.com/world/exclusi ... 06642.html
Mukulika Banerjee, who has been a close associate of Rahul Gandhi, could have been powering this hate campaign against Karan Kataria, ostensibly for having links with the Hindu right, the RSS in particular
https://www.firstpost.com/world/exclusi ... 06642.html
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recall one Banerjee led the Islamist attack on rashmi samant Oxford https://www.opindia.com/2021/05/oxford- ... it-sarkar/
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https://www.lse.ac.uk/anthropology/peop ... a-banerjee
Assoc. Prof. at LSE
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... hing-india
This is the state of the radical left intelligentsia - totally unintelligible and devoid of real oomph - at LSE.
Assoc. Prof. at LSE
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... hing-india
Rahul Gandhi is marching the entire length of India. I joined him to find out why
(This article is more than 2 months old)
Mukulika Banerjee
The scion of that most famous political dynasty wants to bring India ‘together’ after years of dangerous division[\i]
How does an opposition politician seize the initiative in India, a vast and populous country with an increasingly authoritarian ruling party and state? Rahul Gandhi has an answer, and it involves a pair of trainers.
Bharat Jodo Yatra, a “journey bringing India together”, is the name of a long march that Gandhi, a prominent member of the Indian National Congress party, has been leading from the country’s southernmost tropical tip to its icy north. He has covered about 1,900 miles (3,000km) so far, walking 12-15 miles every day, with hundreds of others drawn from his party, as well as civil society members and celebrities. Thousands line the route wherever the march passes to catch a glimpse of the famous politician and to show support. Since anyone is allowed to join, I decided to tag along for two days.
My journey began as soon as I alighted at Sawai Madhopur train station in Rajasthan. A young doctor, one of the yatris (marchers), had come to town to collect medicines needed at the camp, but was stranded. As we chatted in the car, (Why the heck they are not walking?)he said he was deeply worried about the direction the country was taking and wanted badly to be part of something positive. This was the gist of what many other people said to me. No lofty ideological statements, (huh? The whole thing reeks of ideology , specifically of the Chrislamoist variety)but simple motivations such as: “We can do better than hate.”
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That is, in an India where the Modi government has weaponised the police, courts, tax and other enforcement institutions to hound any critic; where big businesses compete to join the elite ranks of Modi’s billionaire cronies; and where the mainstream media have become a post-truth foghorn for government, the same old peeta ghasita post-truth this, subaltern-that, ethnography-somethang, billionaire cronies, doves and hawks - all reminiscent of Karl who sat in the LSE library and pumped out the book of Marxism marching en masse is the only way to make visible the fact that many disagree with the ruinous direction in which the government is taking India.
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This is the state of the radical left intelligentsia - totally unintelligible and devoid of real oomph - at LSE.
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Dr. Banerjee's puff piece (from 2015) on Kejru, again from a la Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... m-admi-bjp
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... m-admi-bjp
Why Delhi’s elections could be a turning point
(This article is more than 8 years old)
Mukulika Banerjee
A new agenda in Indian politics may be upon us, with unashamedly populist Aam Admi threatening to turn over the establishment BJP
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The tube stinks. Even in the city of London stations.
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Murkh Balika Banerjee is one of their latest useful idiot. Just a month or so ago when Pappu was on his India trip she had an article praising him. Why the world is not being awed? Why they are not giving it importance? Etc, etc.Vayutuvan wrote:Dr. Banerjee's puff piece (from 2015) on Kejru, again from a la Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... m-admi-bjpWhy Delhi’s elections could be a turning point
(This article is more than 8 years old)
Mukulika Banerjee
A new agenda in Indian politics may be upon us, with unashamedly populist Aam Admi threatening to turn over the establishment BJP
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after NPR, BBC labelled govt media
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Rather than introspection on why r they disliked all over the world arap news has turned it into i phobia fest
https://www.arabnews.com/node/2010971/world
a study finds samuday vishesh disliked by many in UK
https://www.arabnews.com/node/2010971/world
a study finds samuday vishesh disliked by many in UK
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khujli has since blotted his copybook.Kedar wrote:Vayutuvan wrote:Dr. Banerjee's puff piece (from 2015) on Kejru, again from a la Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... m-admi-bjp
Murkh Balika Banerjee is one of their latest useful idiot. Just a month or so ago when Pappu was on his India trip she had an article praising him. Why the world is not being awed? Why they are not giving it importance? Etc, etc.
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This is becoming a regular comedy show. I remember how Theresa May visited India in 2016 trying to lock up the trade deal right at the time PM was preoccupied with the impending demonetization. And now this. This trade deal isn't going anywhere, and I am sure it matters more to UK than to us.Neela wrote:https://www.cnbctv18.com/world/india-uk ... 1.htm?s=09
India halts trade talks.
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https://www.reuters.com/world/india/ind ... 023-04-10/
India has not suspended trade talks with UK, officials say
NEW DELHI, April 10 (Reuters) - Trade talks between India and Britain have not been suspended and will continue this year, three officials said on Monday, responding to a British newspaper report that said India had "disengaged" from the talks after London failed to condemn Sikh separatists.
An official in India's foreign ministry said progress in the trade talks and New Delhi's concerns around Sikh separatist activities in Britain should not be interlinked.
A diplomatic official in the British High Commission in New Delhi said trade talks will continue in a scheduled manner and security officials in London were addressing India's concerns about Sikh separatist activities in Britain.
"Both the UK and India are committed to delivering an ambitious and mutually beneficial FTA and concluded the latest round of trade talks last month," a spokesperson for Britain's Department for Business and Trade said.
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Gautam
Suspending trade talks came from here:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/indi ... -wg5vp2fs5
India has not suspended trade talks with UK, officials say
NEW DELHI, April 10 (Reuters) - Trade talks between India and Britain have not been suspended and will continue this year, three officials said on Monday, responding to a British newspaper report that said India had "disengaged" from the talks after London failed to condemn Sikh separatists.
An official in India's foreign ministry said progress in the trade talks and New Delhi's concerns around Sikh separatist activities in Britain should not be interlinked.
A diplomatic official in the British High Commission in New Delhi said trade talks will continue in a scheduled manner and security officials in London were addressing India's concerns about Sikh separatist activities in Britain.
"Both the UK and India are committed to delivering an ambitious and mutually beneficial FTA and concluded the latest round of trade talks last month," a spokesperson for Britain's Department for Business and Trade said.
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Gautam
Suspending trade talks came from here:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/indi ... -wg5vp2fs5
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Looks like Sunak is getting serious about taking on grooming gangs which have been running amok, going from some 4K+ victims in 2003 to 29K+ victims on 2022. That's over 7x increase in two decades. What a national shame.
If Sunak makes significant progress, he can use this not just to break the nefarious Paki Muslim hold on British society but also score against Labour. There will be overwhelming support and cheer from the rest of the society.
If Sunak makes significant progress, he can use this not just to break the nefarious Paki Muslim hold on British society but also score against Labour. There will be overwhelming support and cheer from the rest of the society.
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India-UK Free Trade Agreement Hits Khalistani Roadblock? | Vantage with Palki Sharma
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMa4-oO ... =Firstpost
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Gautam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMa4-oO ... =Firstpost
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Gautam
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Yes. Unless people get inspired, the nations are being taken over by crime syndicates headed by jihadis and criminal enterprise of Soros.Cyrano wrote:Looks like Sunak is getting serious about taking on grooming gangs which have been running amok, going from some 4K+ victims in 2003 to 29K+ victims on 2022. That's over 7x increase in two decades. What a national shame.
If Sunak makes significant progress, he can use this not just to break the nefarious Paki Muslim hold on British society but also score against Labour. There will be overwhelming support and cheer from the rest of the society.
Rishi finally might have found a mojo which no white leader sold to WEF/Deep State can even open his mouth
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The Labour party (jihadi inspired) have launched an attack advert accusing Rishi Sunak of being soft on people guilty of crimes against children. They base this on a law passed in 2012 as reported by the BBC (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65228859). Kier Starmer has written an article in The Daily Mail that analyses Tory actions since 2010 (when the Tories under David Cameron unseated Labour). What he has missed is that Sunak did not become an MP until 2016.vijayk wrote:Yes. Unless people get inspired, the nations are being taken over by crime syndicates headed by jihadis and criminal enterprise of Soros.Cyrano wrote:Looks like Sunak is getting serious about taking on grooming gangs which have been running amok, going from some 4K+ victims in 2003 to 29K+ victims on 2022. That's over 7x increase in two decades. What a national shame.
If Sunak makes significant progress, he can use this not just to break the nefarious Paki Muslim hold on British society but also score against Labour. There will be overwhelming support and cheer from the rest of the society.
Rishi finally might have found a mojo which no white leader sold to WEF/Deep State can even open his mouth
Kier Starmer in the past has taken credit for the eventual prosecution of the Pakistani grooming gangs as he was Attorney General when some of the cases were brought to court. However, he is quiet about what he and his Labour colleagues did prior to that when they were active.
Separately there is a storm of protest from various Pakistani origin commentators about Braverman's statement to Sky News explicitly pointing the finger at Pakistani heritage gangs who groomed white and Sikh girls over a long period of time. Some have written a letter of protest to Sunak asking him to retract her claims. Sunak has actually been more circumspect in is criticism of grooming gangs , not mentioning their racial origin. In his position, maybe he should these jihadis to actually list the inaccuracy in what Braverman claimed. I would estimate that 95% of those found guilty were of Pakistani heritage.
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95% pakis... and 99% Islamists ?Aldonkar wrote:...
Separately there is a storm of protest from various Pakistani origin commentators about Braverman's statement to Sky News explicitly pointing the finger at Pakistani heritage gangs who groomed white and Sikh girls over a long period of time...
.. I would estimate that 95% of those found guilty were of Pakistani heritage.
Given the UK is first world with a good system of record keeping, surely the data would be available?
Have there been convictions for the crimes? A release of those names (convicted, not merely accused) should be very illuminating.
Here is a couple (on quick, casual googling) - all from that halal beacon of independent free journalism - BBC
Huddersfield grooming: Twenty guilty of campaign of rape and abuse
Calderdale gang jailed for grooming and abusing girls
Here are some non-pakis... hmm i wonder what's the other common factor?
Seven jailed for part in Bristol sex abuse gang
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Something that is puzzling: white and Sikh girls groomed. But not Hindu girls? Are the social/ familial firewalls more effective?
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My guess is that the number of Sikhs in the same social strata as Pakis (thanks in no small measure due to concentration of Khalistanis, whose behavior and repressiveness mirrors that of their Paki backers) is much higher than with Hindus or other Indian communities. For example, I have heard of honour killings amongst Muslims and Sikhs but not any other Indian community.sanjaykumar wrote:Something that is puzzling: white and Sikh girls groomed. But not Hindu girls? Are the social/ familial firewalls more effective?
Notice that even the local English girls who are groomed are mostly from lower-income working class communities.
If you look at the psychology of which kind of girls are more vulnerable to grooming (and in general to guys who are abusive and manipulative jerks), they would to a large extent be people from broken homes or where the father figure is abusive/regressive/misogynistic and disrespectful of the daughters. Again, more common in working class English, and a certain Khalistani subset of Sikh communities.
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Some time ago I came across a british program 'Can't pay, will take it away' (don't know exact title).
It showed UK courts appointed loan recovery agents going to defaulters places to recover unpaid loans (personal loans, rent, etc). If the defaulter couldn't pay within the day, the agents were authorised to confiscate personal belongings towards the reimbursement. In case of unpaid rents they were authorised to evict the tenants and change the locks.
Within the first few episodes I noticed that the 3 out of 4 cases would be invariably Pakis. All the same type - entitled, 2nd-3rd gen paki mard-e-momeens throwing about attitude, threatening violence but immediately shedding their bluster and doing downhill skiing once their bluff was called, cobbling the money from their father/uncles/relatives and settling the dues sheepishly...
Gave up watching within the first few episodes due to the overwhelming Pakiness
It showed UK courts appointed loan recovery agents going to defaulters places to recover unpaid loans (personal loans, rent, etc). If the defaulter couldn't pay within the day, the agents were authorised to confiscate personal belongings towards the reimbursement. In case of unpaid rents they were authorised to evict the tenants and change the locks.
Within the first few episodes I noticed that the 3 out of 4 cases would be invariably Pakis. All the same type - entitled, 2nd-3rd gen paki mard-e-momeens throwing about attitude, threatening violence but immediately shedding their bluster and doing downhill skiing once their bluff was called, cobbling the money from their father/uncles/relatives and settling the dues sheepishly...
Gave up watching within the first few episodes due to the overwhelming Pakiness
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^^that is an insightful possible explanation. Sociology can be subtle.
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Sikh means Punjab most often. So the Pak and Sikh population tend to have a lot of ethnic bonds save the religion. Same reason why we see a lot of cross-border relationships in Pak-Punjab and Punjab. So Sikh can be explained thus, no idea about white except perhaps just the law of numbers.sanjaykumar wrote:Something that is puzzling: white and Sikh girls groomed. But not Hindu girls? Are the social/ familial firewalls more effective?
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It appears many Hindus tell their daughters in west about impending khatra from samuday vishesh from childhood.For sure most other households of Indian extraction say the same.
By the same token peaceful girls are left alone too
By the same token peaceful girls are left alone too
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phenomena not limited to UK
93% of migrant sex crimes in Finland are committed by Islamic immigrants – Study
https://hindupost.in/world/93-migrant-s ... nts-study/
93% of migrant sex crimes in Finland are committed by Islamic immigrants – Study
https://hindupost.in/world/93-migrant-s ... nts-study/
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The Sikh girls were targeted in the 1970s and early eighties by the fathers of the present generation. At that time most immigrants from the subcontinent were not fluent in English but both Sikhs and most Pakjabis in the areas were Sikhs settled spoke Punjabi. Thus you had Muslims from the Slough area coming a couple of miles east to Southall (where there were many Sikhs) pretending to be Sikhs to pick up girls speaking Punjabi. It started a small "war" of Sikh youths going into the Slough streets equipped with hockey sticks and beating up every young Muslim youth they found. I wrote of it on BR a few years ago and Haresh was kind enough to add some links to local newspaper reports. The (all white) Police were clueless.sanjaykumar wrote:Something that is puzzling: white and Sikh girls groomed. But not Hindu girls? Are the social/ familial firewalls more effective?
Suella Braverman grew up in Wembley, about five miles from Southall; she probably was warned by this by her parents. I live some distance from these areas, but some 25 years ago, my teenage daughters told me that some local Muslim boys came up to them when they they were near the local Cinema and entertainment area and tried to persuade them to be their "girlfriends". My daughters (twins), both born and raised in England, suggested that they try asking their sisters or cousins in the best Anglo-Saxon terms they could muster. So it has happened to non Sikh Asian girls. There were some reports of Bangladeshi girls being targeted.
There was also a TV film that had a grooming storyline that showed a couple of goodlooking Pakistani teenagers hanging around a shopping mall to pick up teenage white girls and actually showed what happened to one girl. The woke press was critical as it was around the time that the grooming issue was in the news. and I think the production company obviously chickened out.
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Thanks Aldonkar for the first hand experience. This is a text book example of love jihad and yet the BBC and other British newspapers will be at the forefront in shouting from the roof top that there is no such thing and is a Hindooooooooooo fundamentalist canard.
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http://www.hvk.org/1997/0597/0209.html
West side story Asian style From 1997
"Sex also plays a part. The gangs are hostile to the growing number of mixed marriages among Sikhs, Hindus and Muslims. Sikhs in particular complain of leaflets and fliers that urge Muslim males to convert Sikh and Hindu girls to Islam. At the same time Muslim males are accused of treating non-Muslim girls as fair game. Geeta, a 17-year-old Hindu, says: 'Muslim boys won't go out with Muslim girls because they say they're sisters. But they think we are just slags so they can go out with us.""
Personal note, I remember a social worker telling me in the late 1990's that discussions and notes about Asian gangs had a D Notice around them. Poor thing had no idea what a D Notice was, ie,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DSMA-Notice
"In the United Kingdom, a DSMA-Notice (Defence and Security Media Advisory Notice)[1] is an official request to news editors not to publish or broadcast items on specified subjects for reasons of national security. DSMA-Notices were formerly called a DA-Notice (Defence Advisory Notice), and before that called a Defence Notice (D-Notice) until 1993."
West side story Asian style From 1997
"Sex also plays a part. The gangs are hostile to the growing number of mixed marriages among Sikhs, Hindus and Muslims. Sikhs in particular complain of leaflets and fliers that urge Muslim males to convert Sikh and Hindu girls to Islam. At the same time Muslim males are accused of treating non-Muslim girls as fair game. Geeta, a 17-year-old Hindu, says: 'Muslim boys won't go out with Muslim girls because they say they're sisters. But they think we are just slags so they can go out with us.""
Personal note, I remember a social worker telling me in the late 1990's that discussions and notes about Asian gangs had a D Notice around them. Poor thing had no idea what a D Notice was, ie,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DSMA-Notice
"In the United Kingdom, a DSMA-Notice (Defence and Security Media Advisory Notice)[1] is an official request to news editors not to publish or broadcast items on specified subjects for reasons of national security. DSMA-Notices were formerly called a DA-Notice (Defence Advisory Notice), and before that called a Defence Notice (D-Notice) until 1993."
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these are spine chilling information!
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Fabulous information.
What else carries a D notice?
In India of course it’s much worse.
What else carries a D notice?
In India of course it’s much worse.
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<OT>..Aldonkar ji, for some reason i thought you were in your forties ..</OT>Aldonkar wrote:... I live some distance from these areas, but some 25 years ago, my teenage daughters..
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You would never really know as the D Notice would prevent such knowledge.sanjaykumar wrote:Fabulous information.
What else carries a D notice?
In India of course it’s much worse.
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Hindu girls are targeted as well. Very often.sanjaykumar wrote:Something that is puzzling: white and Sikh girls groomed. But not Hindu girls? Are the social/ familial firewalls more effective?
I used to live in Southall, my entire younger life was spent there, then we moved to Hounslow.
I am in my late 50's now.
Both Hindu, Sikh girls are targeted. Social class has nothing to do with it.
Three anecdotal stories.
A Hindu Punjabi girl I knew was stupid enough to marry a pak, she converted. When her father found out he dropped dead with a heart attack/stroke. She left him & went back to her family. How she lived with it I do not know.
A Gujarati Hindu girl, Lohanna community, had family & mental health issues. She was vulnerable & targeted. Family were clueless. I just happened to work with her friend who told me the story. I advised them to get her out of her present social circle and relocate her. I think they saved her but not sure.
Another story I heard about in the late 80's in Leicester. The Gen Sec of a Hindu temple had three daughters. One was seduced & converted, left the family. However she retained contacts with her two sisters, got them involved with 2 other paks, they converted as well. parents were destroyed.
There are others.
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Sorry to disappoint you! I am the wrong side of seventy! Have lived in England for three quarters of my life and the other quarter in Kenya where I was born to Catholic Goan parents. Never lived in India and do not speak any Indian language. Only have a few words of Konkani, my mother tongue. However my family have always been pro India and my paternal uncle was jailed by the Portuguese in Goa during the fifties for agitating for reunion with India - the only time I met him was in Fort Aguada jail!Manish_P wrote:<OT>..Aldonkar ji, for some reason i thought you were in your forties ..</OT>Aldonkar wrote:... I live some distance from these areas, but some 25 years ago, my teenage daughters..
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DSMA Notice on coverage means the State was involved in it. The Brits have been huge supporters of the Pakjabis.