Indo-UK News & Discussions- June 2017

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Re: Indo-UK News & Discussions- June 2017

Postby souravB » 16 Jun 2018 16:22

g.sarkar wrote:I remember a German engineer that spent a long time in India installing and commissioning steel plants. I think it was 18 months once and 7 months another time during the late 60s. He did have to take the permission of the German government and get a medical clearance. I think you are talking of Kurt Tank who designed aircraft for India. But that was after 1945 and the end of WWII. There were many unemployed specialists then looking to leave Germany. The German government had collapsed and most well known people went to USA or USSR. Mr. Trunk himself tried other countries before India. Things are different now. India may still get experts in the former USSR nations that may be willing to allow people to leave. But if you want someone from USA, Germany or Western Europe, I am sure there will be obstacles that will prevent them to come to India and divulge secrets that has taken decades to develop.
Gautam

I do not want them give us their state secrets, rather bring their expertise on to the problems that we are facing.
This is called consulting and every major organization do it.
for an example, there must be some differences in the production methodology of LMT where they can churn out hundreds of higher generation planes per year vs HAL who struggle to get just 16. This is one very vague problem area that I have understood and erudite people can go more microscopic.
dinesh_kimar wrote:Iraq used German specialists from DLR for nose cone tech, and also Centrifuge tech and high speed bearings from MAN AG. The sarin and vx gas plant commissioning and adding gas to artillery shells was also done.I think , from memory, a German company named Mannesmann helped with all this

exactly my point, I work there currently and I can say there is no German law restricting neither me, an Indian to work there nor anybody else from DLR to work in India.

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Postby Singha » 16 Jun 2018 17:30

Well well well

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/no-visa ... es-1868534

Not exactly a welcome mat

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Postby IndraD » 18 Jun 2018 15:57

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... 629762.cms Nirav Modi travelled from London to Brussels on Indian passport last week

With Interpol being approached for red corner notice just recently, Modi could have availed of the window to travel to Brussels. His frequent travels, despite revocation of his passport, has raised suspicion of him holding more than one passport. According to some reports Modi has at least 6 different passports from Belgium, Singapore and possibly from Morocco.

In a separate report, Modi has also believed to have filed permanent residency application in Singapore. In his application, he had mentioned his profession as businessman earning net monthly salary of 1,50,000 Singaporean dollar (approx Rs 75 lakh). The application also mentioned that he was holding an Indian passport valid till May 8, 2027.

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Postby Suraj » 19 Jun 2018 05:45

If this succeeds, Mallya would be the first to be penalized under the new Fugitive Economic Offenders Act:
ED wants ‘fugitive’ tag for Vijay Mallya
The enforcement directorate on Monday requested a special court to label businessman Vijay Mallya as a fugitive under a recently promulgated law that allows the government to confiscate and sell assets of an offender, an ED official said. Mallya would be the first to be tried under the Fugitive Economic Offenders Ordinance, the official said.

The request was part of a fresh chargesheet against Mallya for alleged money laundering in connection with a Rs 6,900 crore loan granted to the now defunct Kingfisher Airlines Ltd, the official said on condition of anonymity. The special Prevention of Money Laundering court has not taken cognisance of the chargesheet.

Mallya will have six weeks to present himself in front of the court and contest the charges from the time the chargesheet is accepted, according to the norms laid down in the ordinance. If he fails to do so, he will be labelled a “fugitive economic offender”.

“Once Mallya is declared a fugitive, we will confiscate more than Rs 9,000 crore worth of assets,” said a second official, requesting anonymity.

The new law gives sweeping power to the government to sell properties confiscated in India and abroad even before the trial begins. Attached properties can only be auctioned off after a trial now.

A fugitive economic offender is one against whom an arrest warrant has been issued for a scheduled offence and who has left India to avoid criminal prosecution, or being abroad, refuses to return to face criminal prosecution.

The agency will also move the court for a fugitive tag against Nirav Modi and Mehul Choksi in the Rs 14,000 crore PNB fraud, said the second official.

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Postby Suraj » 20 Jun 2018 09:47

UK Will Bear The Consequences Of Visa Policy Against India
Bilateral relations between the UK and India have taken a nosedive ironically at the launch of the first ever 'UK-India Week', which was meant to celebrate the bond between the two countries.

The UK's international trade secretary Liam Fox said on the sidelines of the launch event that the reason India was excluded from a list of countries offered easier access to student visas was because it had in April refused to sign a memorandum of understanding (MoU) promising to facilitate return of illegal Indian immigrants in the UK to India. His remarks went down like a lead balloon with officials at the Indian high commission in London.

The aim of the UK-India Week was to address prospects for post-Brexit partnerships. But instead, after day one of the event organised by PM Modi's ex- communications director Manoj Ladwa, ties have hit an all-time low.

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Postby disha » 21 Jun 2018 13:06

From the above url:

The aim of the UK-India Week was to address prospects for post-Brexit partnerships. But instead, after day one of the event organised by PM Modi's ex- communications director Manoj Ladwa, ties have hit an all-time low.


Is it a tongue-in-cheek statement by GoI that former-UK is being excommunicated?

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Postby Rahul M » 22 Jun 2018 23:10

somewhat related to this thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cgRwDkP6vk
Number of deaths in the WW2 per country

India lost more people than US, UK, France, Korea, Italy, Australia ... combined.

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Postby chetak » 23 Jun 2018 00:09

Rahul M wrote:somewhat related to this thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cgRwDkP6vk
Number of deaths in the WW2 per country

India lost more people than US, UK, France, Korea, Italy, Australia ... combined.


Looking at the deaths from India and Ethiopia, it is obvious that their brit commanders used them to bear the brunt as well as used them for cannon fodder.

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Re: Indo-UK News & Discussions- June 2017

Postby Varoon Shekhar » 23 Jun 2018 02:43

That must include the abominable British induced famine of 1943. Combat deaths and injuries were very substantial, but they wouldn't be more than those countries. For the record, it's disgusting that Indians had to be fighting in Europe at all! India should have been an independent country by 1940, and defended its own shores from the Nazis, Japanese or whomever.

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Postby IndraD » 27 Jun 2018 00:07

Vijay Mallya Offers To Sell Assets Worth 13,900 Crores To Repay Loans
According to Vijay Mallya, the Enforcement Directorate and the CBI were "determined" to frame criminal charges against him.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/vijay-m ... ns-1873520

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Postby IndraD » 27 Jun 2018 00:08

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Postby Suraj » 27 Jun 2018 10:10

Mallya is indirectly begging GoI not to apply the Fugitive Economic Offenders Act on him , by offering a truce . The reasons are simple - he will lose all his Indian property to his creditors when his summons expires on the court date. He will also lose most of his British property the same way.

GoI should not respond to him, just as they’ve ignored his letter all this while . The rule of law must proceed . If he wants to alter his circumstances , he can show up in Mumbai for his court summons . Not showing up will automatically cause all his property to be confiscated and sold by his creditors .

No one gets an exception . Nirav Modi is also going to be prosecuted under FEO Act and will lose all his Indian property , as well as anything we can confiscate in Belgium or Singapore .

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Postby Singha » 27 Jun 2018 19:25

Pant geela ho raha hai su su se

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Postby Suraj » 29 Jun 2018 02:26

Mallya's actions are cynical in nature. He released his letter the day before the deadline he's supposed to meet. The reason for doing so is to demonstrate good faith effort, in an effort to win legal backing for his claim that he 'tried' to repay 'but that he was prevented by vested political interests'. He's clearly acting on the basis of legal advice in an effort to minimize the damage when his property starts being confiscated.

However, this is unlikely to work, since his legal strategy attempts to use the substantial legal space afforded to debtors previously to argue in their favor, since prior legal frameworks favored the debtor-in-possession approach (the guy who owed money held the leverage). The insolvency and bankruptcy code and fugitive economic offenders acts move to a creditor-in-control model, where the entities who are owed have more power.

Mallya is of course deliberately misstating this change in legal approach to bankruptcy via established law as 'vested political interest', but then he's a crook.

Previously he could argue 'I tried to pay back, so I cannot be called a willful defaulter' and therefore delay proceedings. Not anymore. There's specific set of timebound actions required of him, first of which is his presence in a court of law in India. He's losing by forfeit since he has no desire to show up in his own country - the country that gave him his wealth and standing, and where *he* was a lawmaker.

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Postby hanumadu » 29 Jun 2018 05:40

He is claiming and it's probably true that ED possesses his property in excess of the loan amount including interest. 13900 cr vs 9000 cr. So why can't he come to India and settle his dues? Surely it's better to settle his dues and keep the excess property rather than let it all go, especially since the stock price of UB might not stay high forever.

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Re: Indo-UK News & Discussions- June 2017

Postby srin » 29 Jun 2018 07:26

It's important to recognize that Mallya's issues aren't just the bankruptcy and willful defaulter alone. There are charges of fraud, diversion of loan money, etc on him. These are criminal charges and he is a fugitive from criminal justice, so there is no way for any government to simply pardon his civil dues.

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Postby hanumadu » 29 Jun 2018 07:45

Of course, but they will not go away either way. At least, he can pay up the money, face the money laundering charges and get back to his life and build on what he still has left with him which is substantial.
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Postby Neshant » 29 Jun 2018 10:20

Suraj wrote:Mallya is indirectly begging GoI not to apply the Fugitive Economic Offenders Act on him , by offering a truce . The reasons are simple - he will lose all his Indian property to his creditors when his summons expires on the court date. He will also lose most of his British property the same way.



I'm pretty sure he's all but written off his assets in India.

He has bigger worries - In my opinion, its only a matter of time before these fugitives will be brought back.

Not if, but when.

For the amount of diplomatic capital the country has had to expend to get them deported, the Indian courts should give them a mandatory 30 year jail sentence as soon as they land in India.

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Postby chetak » 29 Jun 2018 10:45

Neshant wrote:
Suraj wrote:Mallya is indirectly begging GoI not to apply the Fugitive Economic Offenders Act on him , by offering a truce . The reasons are simple - he will lose all his Indian property to his creditors when his summons expires on the court date. He will also lose most of his British property the same way.



I'm pretty sure he's all but written off his assets in India.

He has bigger worries - In my opinion, its only a matter of time before these fugitives will be brought back.

Not if, but when.

For the amount of diplomatic capital the country has had to expend to get them deported, the Indian courts should give them a mandatory 30 year jail sentence as soon as they land in India.


What you are seeing is just the tip of the iceberg.

All these guys have hectic parleys quietly going on with the GoI to lessen the impact of asset recovery, retain benami properties and avoid charges of criminality and jail sentences.

Their UK lawyers are currently in full public view whereas their Indian lawyers, middlemen and other political fixers are operating in the shadows to extricate their clients.

You can bet that considerable sums of money have already changed hands, especially with the largely looming elections where MAD will not repeat many of the low performing and deadwood BJP parliamentarians.

Mallaya has paid heavily to get out which is why he exited so openly and brazenly. He was showing the investigative agencies his clout.

He will continue to pay until they squeeze him dry and whenever the next govt takes over, the process starts all over again.

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Postby Suraj » 29 Jun 2018 11:36

The funniest thing about Mallya's claims about 'politically motivated decisions and arbitrary laws' is this: formerly India had no central bankruptcy law at all. Rather, the collection of laws enabled a nonstandard debtor-in-possession mechanism . This means that the person owing money retains control over the company as bankruptcy proceedings continue, and only relinquishes control once the proceedings complete.

There was no incentive to do this quickly, no timebound procedures, and plenty of scope for making exceptional claims like Mallya's attempt to show good faith effort. What's more, unlike US Chapter 11 process, which is also a debtor-in-possession system, there's no assigned insolvency professional to ensure that promoters don't strip off assets of the stricken company before agreeing to terms.

The new IBC and FEO Acts move the whole thing over to a creditor-in-control system. Now, the debtor doesn't call the shots. The creditors work through the insolvency professional assigned by NCLT to do this. Guess which country has the most well known creditor-in-control based bankruptcy system ? The United Kingdom. The same place where the guy now sits and spouts about unfair laws in India.

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Postby Suraj » 30 Jun 2018 23:45

Mallya has been formally charged under Fugitive Economic Offenders Act, and has been required to present himself on August 27 in court. Failure to do so will initiate proceedings to confiscate all his property in India and abroad.

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Postby kit » 01 Jul 2018 03:28

Rahul M wrote:somewhat related to this thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cgRwDkP6vk
Number of deaths in the WW2 per country

India lost more people than US, UK, France, Korea, Italy, Australia ... combined.


And India will NOT play second fiddle to any nation including the US - sanctions be damned.

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Re: Indo-UK News & Discussions- June 2017

Postby dinesha » 02 Jul 2018 15:46

UK defence minister under fire for turning down meeting with Sitharaman: Report
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 818750.cms

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Postby Philip » 05 Jul 2018 15:41

2 more cases of Novichok poisoning in the UK at Wiltshire close to the area where the Skripal's were poisoned.It is assumed that the new victims went to Salisbury and picked up the contamination at some unknown location.

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Postby Suraj » 06 Jul 2018 01:48

Vijay Mallya’s wings clipped: UK Court allows seizure of UK assets in a big win for Indian banks
In a big setback for former liquor-baron Vijay Mallya, a UK High Court judge has issued an enforcement order granting permission to seize his properties in Hertfordshire, near London, PTI reported. The decision comes amid Narendra Modi government’s plan to declare him a fugitive economic offender under a newly-passed law.

The UK ruled in favour of a consortium of 13 Indian banks that seek to recover funds owed to them by beleaguered Vijay Mallya who is fighting extradition to India on fraud and money laundering charges worth nearly Rs 9,000 crore.

It permits the officer and his agent’s entry to Ladywalk and Bramble Lodge in Tewin, Welwyn, where Mallya is currently based. However, it is not an instruction to enter, which means the banks have the option to use the order as one of the means to recover estimated funds of around 1.145 billion pounds.

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Postby Singha » 06 Jul 2018 03:36

The new couple too could be ex spies for all we know

Uk is awash with fugitives of all stripes

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Postby A Nandy » 06 Jul 2018 10:40

Brits getting desperate to get back into the good books of India after their defence minister proved his foolishness.

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Re: Indo-UK News & Discussions- June 2017

Postby chetak » 06 Jul 2018 11:51

Why Britain is the most unsafe country for India



Why Britain is the most unsafe country for India

It doesn’t take rocket science to understand why Reuters is targeting India. It may sound bizarre to Indians – who suffer from collective amnesia about colonial crimes – but it is true that the British ruling establishment carries a deep hatred for India.

Rakesh Krishnan Simha @ByRakeshSimha
04-07-2018

Any survey on India that is done in the West should be taken with a healthy dose of scepticism. Specifically, if the surveyor is a British organisation such as the Thomson Reuters Foundation, the report is likely to be a hit job commissioned to make India look like the world’s top disaster destination. It’s as simple as that.

On June 26, 2018 the Thomson Reuters Foundation ran a poll (1) of 548 “experts”, including 53 from India, and declared it to be the world’s “most dangerous country for women”. India has been described as a place where women face a high risk of sexual violence and are being forced into slave labour. If the results of the poll are to be believed, women are more unsafe in India than Islamic countries such as Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Iran where women are flogged and stoned to death for ‘offences’ such as blasphemy and dancing in the streets.

The poll has drawn flak from Indians for its explicit bias. Indians around the world feel done-in by Reuters and its ‘experts’, most of whom are no doubt seculars, liberals, leftists, Christians, Muslims and card carrying members of the Award Wapsi gang. (3)

A bit of background is necessary to understand where the Foundation is coming from.

The Thomson Reuters Foundation is the London-based charitable arm of Thomson Reuters. Technically, Thomson Reuters is a Canadian company after its takeover by Canada’s Thomson family. But as a news gathering business, Reuters remains a pucca British company run independently from London. This means ownership has little or no influence on the Foundation’s work.

Now let’s take a look at the major donors. The Thomson Reuters Foundation has several leading funders. Some are seemingly innocuous such as Deutsche Bank and the Food and Agriculture Organization. Others like the Norwegian Agency for Development Cooperation; the UK Foreign and Commonwealth Office; the Rockefeller Foundation and the Overseas Development Institute are ostensibly aid outfits, but in reality they are lobbying agencies that further the cause of Western countries. And lurking down the list is World Vision UK, which masquerades as a development aid agency but in reality is a fundamentalist church with a clear and unabashed aim – to destroy Hinduism by converting every Indian to Christianity.


Still think the Thomson Reuters Foundation has no agenda? Read on.

Reuters’ code of hatred

A senior editor who spent a considerable number of years at Reuters told this writer that the news agency operates very differently in India as compared with the way it works in most other countries. “If you want to become a Reuters bureau chief, you have to hate India with a passion,” he said.

According to the editor, who requested anonymity, Reuters’ reporting, especially its political coverage, is highly anti-India. “They don’t miss any opportunity to malign the country. Reuters journalists consistently use words such as ‘Hindu fundamentalists’ to describe BJP supporters or Indian nationalists,” he explained. “Another Reuters strategy is to take sides with the Pakistanis in order to weaken India’s position internationally. To make India look bad is the bureau chief’s prime duty.”

A joke within Reuters goes like this: “Some white men are more equal than others.” That is, if you are British, and in particular English, the path to the top is quick and assured. A Scotsman on the other hand would have a harder time because he couldn’t be trusted to the further the racist British agenda. For instance, a talented journalist from New Jersey wasn’t allowed to become the India bureau chief because the management at Reuters wasn’t sure he would agree to portray India with the degree of negativity expected from a Reuters bureau chief. Similarly, a Moscow bureau chief who wanted to be the India chief wasn’t given the job because he was passionate about India.

The former Reuters editor said the only other country that is treated in the same fashion as India is Russia. There, a British woman with zero understanding of Russian history and ethos was made the bureau chief.

Colonial angst

It doesn’t take rocket science to understand why Reuters is targeting India. It may sound bizarre to Indians – who suffer from collective amnesia about colonial crimes – but it is true that the British ruling establishment carries a deep hatred for India. Said the editor: “The British political class and their henchmen and women in the media view India as the old enemy. Their belief is, ‘We ruled the world and these Indians are the scum who took down our empire’. The hatred they have for India is very strong. This is why their reporting from India is completely anti-India.”


Of course, how would a neo-colonial arm of the old empire operate smoothly without its sepoys. With a number of offices across India, including a large offshoring sweatshop in Bangalore, Reuters has access to the services of hundreds of Indian journalists. Most of Reuters’s Indian employees are drawn from the Macaulayites – a class of people who are Indian only by name but have a Western outlook. These journalists and copydesk slaves push their agenda for not very many rupees more than what an Indian media company pays. Reuters occasionally rewards a tiny percentage of these sepoys with fellowships and puts them up in nice places. This foreign junket is enough to buy their loyalty for life.
Britain: Unsafe for women

According to the Spectator Index, (4) in terms of reported rapes per 100,000 people, the West has a huge lead. While India has a reported rape rate of 1.8, it is 63 for Sweden, 28 for Australia, 27 for the US, 19 for Norway and 17 for the UK. Even if a great number of rapes in India go unreported for a variety of reasons (from shame to intimidation), and the figure for India is doubled, trebled or quintupled, it still won’t come anywhere near the Western average.

And what makes you think the reported rates in the West are the exact number actually committed. In Scotland (a virtual British colony), only 16.8 per cent of rapes are reported. (5) In Australia, of the 3,500 rapes cases in Victoria state, only 3 per cent ended in a conviction. (6)

Reuters should look at Britain’s apathy when it comes to convicting rapists. No less than a female judge, Joanna Greenberg, gave a non-custodial sentence to a teacher convicted on two counts of sexual activity with a child. (7) In justifying her decision, the judge said of the victim, a 16-year-old schoolgirl: “If grooming is the right word to use, it was she who groomed you, [and] you gave in to temptation.” The rape of a child is the child’s fault.

In August 2013, Neil Wilson, 41, was given a suspended prison sentence for sexual activity with a 13-year-old girl. Judge Nigel Peters accused Wilson’s victim of “egging him on”. Shockingly, even the prosecution lawyer, Robert Colover, called her “predatory”.

In contrast, the reality about India is that a large number of rape cases may be fake. After the infamous 2012 gang rape of a student on a bus in Delhi, the number of rape cases reported to police in India rose sharply. The BBC reports that one survey concluded that in Delhi, in 2013-14, more than half of these reports were “false” – fuelling claims by male activists that women are alleging rape in order to extort money from men. (8)

As for the Muslim countries, the less said the better. In the West and India, at least there are laws that may be slow to kick in but still offer hope. In Islamic states, women are chattel, slaves and sex objects. Unlimited and unending sex with hundreds of damsels in paradise is the reward for martyrdom or simply being a devoted Muslim. If women are safe in Islamic countries, it is the safety of the harem and the anonymity of a dank, dark and hot burqa. How, Reuters could catapult India to No.1 while ignoring the tragedy of thousands of Yazidi women and female children who were forced into sex slavery in Iraq and Syria boggles the mind.
Indian media: Equally guilty

There is not an iota of doubt that the 53 ‘experts’ polled in India must include anti-India crusaders such as Arundhati Roy, Barkha Dutt, Kavita Krishnan and other deplorable characters. Since they comprise nearly 10 per cent of those surveyed, and if all of them ranked India as most dangerous, then the poll would be skewed from the start.

It isn’t difficult for the pollsters at Thomson Reuters Foundation to fix the result and make India look bad, but perhaps they didn’t have to because the Indian media’s shrill and incessant coverage of sex crimes – especially if there is a Hindu-Muslim angle involved – has already tarred the country’s image internationally. Thanks to the 24/7 coverage of rape cases week in and week out, the foreign media has picked up the cue and India is now globally known as a place where women are routinely raped.

The point is that rape happens worldwide, but only the Indian media is transfixed by it. TV channels are competing with each other to ferret out rape cases and flash them on prime time. Unlike other countries which have TV companies such as CBS, Al Jazeera, Russia Today, Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, Australian Broadcasting Corporation, Deutsche Welle and the BBC, which broadcast well-produced programmes that leave an impact, the Indian media’s output is shoddy and pathetic. Can you remember a single Indian TV programme which you thought was well made?

Barring a few (such as the rare and brilliant interview of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad by Sudhir Chaudhary of Zee News), most TV programmes leave the viewer unsatisfied. So if you are too lazy and/or incompetent to make quality programmes, how do you attract viewers? Rape seems like a nice fit because shocked (and prurient) viewers tune in large numbers. Plus it has the added bonus of smearing mud on Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s Achche Din story. And if the alleged rapist is Hindu and the victim a Muslim child, it is the presstitute’s ultimate fantasy fulfilled. He, she and the support cast get a pat on their genuflecting bodies from their political masters who will also throw some crumbs from the high table.
How can the likes of Reuters be tamed?

Reciprocity is an excellent weapon but the Indian government has not learned how to use it well.

A country that employs the saam-bhed-dand (carrot and stick) strategy brilliantly is Russia. Being a civilisational rival, Russia (like India) is hated by Britain, but there’s a difference in how London treats Russia. While dealing with the Russians, the British are cautious. Reuters doesn’t publish too many negative stories of Russia because Moscow has the leverage through its international media outlets Russia Today (RT) and Sputnik to hit back in equal measure.

India, on the other hand, lacks journalists (with the spine) or politicians (with the will) to pay back Britain in kind. India’s Rajya Sabha TV and Doordarshan seem to be living in a parallel universe in which the global media doesn’t exist. Has any Indian channel attempted to counter Reuters by showing the increasing poverty in Britain? Why can’t Republic TV or DD show the reality of a British mum who ate once a day and never on Saturdays to ensure her kids got a decent meal? Or about British people fighting for discounted vegetables in the supermarket? (9)

But instead, nearly all channels are reporting either politics or rape round the clock. These are both easy subjects to report and are well within the grasping ability of our 90 IQ journalists.

Message to the media

To conclude, here’s my message to the presstitutes of the mainstream Indian media. You must be proud today. You must be clinking glasses at the Press Club. Many of you would be doing high-fives while wolfing down beef fry at some seedy joint. Go ahead, celebrate. After years of your relentless portrayal of unproven rape allegations, you have managed to despatch India’s reputation into the gutter. You have created such a horrible impression of the country that Indian men are now considered rapists internationally.

But don’t be so sure. Let me wipe that smug smile off your little face and bring your nasha down a notch or two. In 2015, German professor Annette Beck-Sickinger, the head of the biochemistry department at Leipzig University, wrote to a male internship applicant from India that she does not accept “any Indian male students for internships” and “many female professors in Germany decided to no longer accept male Indian students”. She referenced India’s “rape problem” and the reports about rape and sexual violence in India that reach Germany “on a weekly basis” as the reasons for not accepting any Indian male applicant for internships. (10)

Since journalists largely come from middle to low income families, your ticket to the sought after foreign stamp is mainly through internships and scholarships. The average Indian family does not even think of an overseas degree; the rich will pay full tuition fees and get their children admitted to foreign universities if they want to. You on the other hand are stuck in the middle. Think about it – from now on, your children will face rejection when they apply to study abroad. Your boys will be tagged as wannabe rapists.

You laughing now?

Sources

Thomson Reuters Foundation, http://news.trust.org//item/20180612134519-cxz54/
Thomson Reuters Foundation, http://www.trust.org/about-us/
The Daily Pioneer, Politics of Award Wapsi, http://www.dailypioneer.com/columnists/ ... tions.html
The Spectator Index, https://mobile.twitter.com/i/web/status ... 0902660097
The Express, Rapes Unreported, https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/67130 ... Police-SNP
The News, Truth About Rape Convictions, https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real- ... f4fd019b8e
The Guardian, https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... es-lawyers
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The Guardian, The ‘despair’ and ‘loneliness’ of austerity Britain, https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... ty-britain
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https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-colu ... -of-brexit
Boris Johnson’s Resignation Can’t Disguise the Harsh Reality of Brexit
By John CassidyJuly 9, 2018
n the two years since a narrow majority of Britons voted to leave the European Union, the planning of the country’s actual departure has often looked like a disaster unfolding in slow motion. In the past few days, as an anonymous public servant, displaying the sangfroid for which British mandarins used to be famous, put it, “We have at least now reached the kinetic phase of the car crash.” Prime Minister Theresa May—facing the thankless, and maybe impossible, task of fashioning a plan that would honor the result of the 2016 vote, unite her Conservative Party, garner acceptance from other European governments, and minimize the collateral damage to the British economy—has spent much of the past twenty-four months temporizing and fending off potential challenges to her leadership. On Friday, she finally acted, summoning her Cabinet to her official country house, which is known as Chequers, and demanding support for what she presented as the best available negotiating plan. For about forty-eight hours, it appeared that May had succeeded in gaining unanimous backing for her proposal—but that proved illusory. On Sunday night, David Davis, the Secretary of State for Exiting the European Union, a specially created post, quit, saying that May was making too many concessions to the E.U. Hours later, two junior members of the government resigned, too. And then, on Monday afternoon, Boris Johnson, the old Etonian mop top who for the past two years has served as May’s far-from-entirely-loyal Foreign Secretary, joined the leaving party. In a public letter, he said that the Brexit “dream is dying, suffocated by needless self-doubt,” and suggested that May’s strategy amounted to leading the U.K. into a “semi-Brexit,” with the “status of a colony.”
Like his hero Winston Churchill, Johnson has a penchant for laying it on thick, as well as an all-consuming ambition. Early in his career, as a Brussels-based correspondent for the Daily Telegraph, he concocted all sorts of scare stories about the E.U. bureaucracy, including one claiming that the E.U. gauleiters were threatening to outlaw English sausages. After switching to politics and getting elected to the House of Commons, in 2001, Johnson made his mark as an articulate and socially liberal Conservative, a platform he used, in 2008, to become a fairly progressive and forward-looking two-term mayor of London. But after returning to Parliament, in 2016, he re-created himself again—this time as a pro-Brexit Little Englander—and in doing so he aligned himself with some of the most reactionary and xenophobic forces in the country. Conspicuously lacking from Johnson’s resignation letter was any convincing, or even merely plausible, alternative to the Brexit strategy that May presented. This omission was no accident. As much as the hardcore Brexiteers huff and puff about May going soft and betraying the legacy of Henry VIII—who started the English Reformation rather than bowing to the will of a European authority, the Pope—they have presented no convincing answers to the challenges with which the Prime Minister and her advisers have been wrestling.
As May explained to the House of Commons on Monday, she is dealing with “the practicality of Brexit” rather than the dream. In the past few months, it has become increasingly clear that making a clean break with the E.U.—what the so-called hard-Brexit crowd is demanding—would wreak havoc on Britain’s economy. It would deprive businesses based in the United Kingdom of free access to the European market and to the extensive supply chains that many of them have in the E.U. For a time after the Leave vote, the scale of this problem remained partially obscured because many businesses maintained a diplomatic silence. But, more recently, a number of major manufacturers, including Airbus, BMW, and Jaguar Land Rover have intimated that, in the event of a hard Brexit, they would have no choice but to move their factories and investments out of the U.K.
The dilemma facing the May government is that to maintain the “frictionless” access to the E.U. that businesses are demanding, the U.K. will have to abide by some of the Union’s rules and regulations, even though it will no longer be a member. Norway has been living with such an arrangement for decades, and the system has worked pretty well. But Johnson and his supporters, who include many Conservative Party activists, regard going down this route as a betrayal of British sovereignty. Actually, May’s pursuit of such a scenario is a belated, and still incomplete, recognition of political reality.
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Postby chetak » 11 Jul 2018 11:19

^^^^^^^

As usual, the britshits want to eat their cake and have it too, but they did not reckon with a vicious european hostility, the reasons for which are manifold and of long standing.

All their problems started with allowing the free movements of mirpuris to england, the very same country yokels and bumpkins who still today maintain their age old rural paki lifestyles and steadfastly remain uneducated. Inter marriage and preferential sourcing of rural brides from the paki hinterland has further damaged this dysfunctional
and other such decidedly low class populations

This largesse spurred the migration of other muslims and the result is a highly entitled and adamantly unintegrated foreign muslim population which is mollycoddled by brit politicians and many sharia inspired demands were quietly acquiesced, much to the detriment of the local and traditional brit societies.

From little seeds like these do the mighty oaks of separatism and exclusiveness grow and take firm root. Now the white britshit works hard to assiduously support the pampered, disruptive, freeloading and violent muslim populace, all entrenched firmly on welfare benefits.

So now, belatedly and after unchecked decades of dedicated muslim demographic assault, the brits have now woken up to the dangers of outsiders completely and overwhelmingly erasing the britshit way of life and this has manifested itself in entry controls most affecting a normally productive part of economic migrants to britain.

India, they hate with all their hearts because they blame us for the downfall of the british empire and their glorious status in the world as a super power.

Little realizing that they have been reduced to a mere third world equivalent of their former selves because of the greedy and wrong policies followed by them and they very conveniently negate the US's great role in reducing them to this pathetic condition.

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https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/india-s ... -topscroll

zhaleda zia's british MP lawyer sent packing from IGI airport for inappropriate visa -vs visit agenda

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Postby yensoy » 12 Jul 2018 11:28

Singha wrote:https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/india-sends-backs-british-mp-lord-alexander-carlile-from-delhi-airport-over-inappropriate-visa-1881860?pfrom=home-topscroll

zhaleda zia's british MP lawyer sent packing from IGI airport for inappropriate visa -vs visit agenda


https://indianexpress.com/article/india/british-mp-lord-alexander-carlile-denied-entry-into-india-on-arrival-by-mea-5255736/
The Ministry of External Affairs’ official spokesperson said, “Lord Alexander Carlile, a British national, arrived in New Delhi on July 11, 2018 without having obtained the appropriate Indian visa. His intended activity in India was incompatible with the purpose of his visit as mentioned in his visa application. It was therefore decided to deny him entry into India upon arrival.”


I wonder why the MEA used "Lord" for him. This is a colonial hangover, there should be no recognition of imperial titles in official GoI communication. The only honorifics should be Mr/Mrs../Dr/Rank if military and His/Her excellency. We can continue to use them unofficially only.

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Postby la.khan » 12 Jul 2018 12:51

Is this the right thread to gloat about England's exit from the FIFA WC 2018? 8)

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Postby rsingh » 12 Jul 2018 23:02

Nop! But you may do so by calling it "The second Brixit".

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Postby rsingh » 12 Jul 2018 23:19

yensoy wrote:
Singha wrote:https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/india-sends-backs-british-mp-lord-alexander-carlile-from-delhi-airport-over-inappropriate-visa-1881860?pfrom=home-topscroll

zhaleda zia's british MP lawyer sent packing from IGI airport for inappropriate visa -vs visit agenda


https://indianexpress.com/article/india/british-mp-lord-alexander-carlile-denied-entry-into-india-on-arrival-by-mea-5255736/
The Ministry of External Affairs’ official spokesperson said, “Lord Alexander Carlile, a British national, arrived in New Delhi on July 11, 2018 without having obtained the appropriate Indian visa. His intended activity in India was incompatible with the purpose of his visit as mentioned in his visa application. It was therefore decided to deny him entry into India upon arrival.”


I wonder why the MEA used "Lord" for him. This is a colonial hangover, there should be no recognition of imperial titles in official GoI communication. The only honorifics should be Mr/Mrs../Dr/Rank if military and His/Her excellency. We can continue to use them unofficially only.

Just sent a mail to MEA. Sala Killing time.


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Postby Philip » 13 Jul 2018 19:28

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -criticism
With criticism of May's Brexit, Trump detonates a diplomatic grenade
Is the US president’s outburst to the Sun simply bad manners, or his latest attempt to undermine an old ally?

David Smith in London
Fri 13 J8 0ul 2011.18
Donald Trump and Theresa May
Donald Trump told the Sun he advised Theresa May ‘how to do’ Brexit but ‘she didn’t listen to me’. Photograph: Maja Smiejkowska/Rex/Shutterstock
He once likened his relationship with Theresa May to that between Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher. Presumably that comparison is now cancelled.

Donald Trump has once again torn up standard etiquette for diplomacy by turning up, not with flowers or a bottle of wine – but a verbal grenade. As he was setting off for his first visit to the UK as American president, he told the Sun that he advised Theresa May “how to do” Brexit but “she didn’t listen to me”.

He also warned that a soft Brexit will probably kill any hope of a separate US-UK trade deal, which was supposed to be a centrepiece of Friday’s talks at Chequers. And to add insult to injury, he suggested that May’s nemesis, Boris Johnson, would “make a great prime minister”.

Donald Trump says Sun interview is 'fake news' - video
Clearly, when in 2016 Trump declared himself “Mr Brexit”, he should have been taken both seriously and literally. His ego and belief in his own deal-making skills are such that he apparently thought he alone could fix it. Few observers believe that he has studied the vast mounds of paperwork or the complex web of laws involved.

His outburst to the Sun – a Eurosceptic tabloid newspaper owned by Rupert Murdoch, whose Fox News channel supplies many of Trump’s views and staff – could certainly be seen as bad manners, perhaps an act of revenge for the baby blimp set to take to the London sky on Friday.

Trump: soft Brexit will 'kill' UK's chances of US trade deal
On another, equally Trumpian level, it might be regarded as his latest brazen attempt to undermine an old ally. Just as the president tore into Angela Merkel’s Germany over pastries and cheese before the Nato summit had even started, now he has May’s Britain in his sights.

He is aware that May, like Merkel, is weakened and vulnerable domestically, and his past record suggests that he despises weakness. He has consistently expressed admiration, by contrast, for dictators such as Vladimir Putin, Kim Jong-un and Rodrigo Duterte.

More than a year into his presidency, no one is quite certain whether this is due to an instinctive fascination with autocrats and the great man theory of history – or a deeper, more sinister effort to reorder the world in favour of rightwing demagoguery.

For now, it means that Trump and May’s engagements – a joint forces military demonstration, a working lunch at Chequers and a joint press conference – promise the height of social awkwardness. Watch for the handshake – always a tell with Trump.

Based on past, self-contradictory form, the president, when confronted by reporters, will probably seek to play down his negative comments about a bilateral trade deal, triggering a fresh set of headlines about how it might be back on.

May, meanwhile, standing before the media and live TV cameras, will face calls to emulate Hugh Grant’s prime minister in the 2003 film Love Actually, who informs the American president: “A friend who bullies us is no longer a friend. And since bullies only respond to strength, from now onward I will be prepared to be much stronger.”

Failing that, as Trump goes on to take tea with the Queen, the prime minister could always join the demonstrations on the streets of London. It seems she has nothing to lose.



PS:Trump attacked Home Sec. Sadiq Khan in an extraordinary attack over the Trump "baby blimp",and he's responded. If I was Khan I would boycott all official functions with Trump in protest
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -terrorism

Sadiq Khan hits back at Trump over claims on terror and crime – video
Sadiq Khan has hit back at “preposterous” claims by Donald Trump after the US president criticised the London mayor for doing a “a bad job” on terrorism and crime in the capital.

In an interview in the Sun, Trump lashed out at Khan, who has allowed a Trump protest balloon to float above Westminster during his visit.

The US president reignited his feud with Khan, who criticised the US president as “ill-informed” over a tweet following the London Bridge attack in June 2017.

Trump protests: baby blimp takes off as Foreign Office hits back over trade threat – live updates
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“I think allowing millions and millions of people to come into Europe is very, very sad ... You have a mayor who has done a terrible job in London,” Trump said.

“He has done a terrible job. Take a look at the terrorism that is taking place. Look at what is going on in London. I think he has done a very bad job on terrorism.

“I think he has done a bad job on crime, if you look, all of the horrible things going on there, with all of the crime that is being brought in.”

Khan responded on Friday morning, saying terrorism was a global problem, with people dying all over Europe. “What is interesting is Trump is not criticising mayors of those cities, but he is criticising me,” he said in an interview on the BBC’s Today programme.

Trump’s comments blaming immigration for crime in England were “preposterous”, he added.

“There has been an increase in violent crime across England and Wales … it’s gone up by more than 20% … and by 4% in London ... We must deal with the causes, but also enforcement and where we have lost £7m in our budget in London I have invested £4m ... [but] the idea to blame immigration from Africa is preposterous, and we should call him out when does,” Khan said.

The moment Trump baby blimp lifts off - video
Trump’s verbal attack on Khan came after the London mayor refused to block a plan to fly a giant inflatable “Trump baby” near parliament to coincide with the president’s visit to the UK. The 20ft-high blimp depicts the US leader as an angry infant wearing a nappy and clutching a mobile phone.

Khan defended the decision, saying to have blocked the inflatable would have been to inhibit freedom of speech.

“The UK, like the USA, has a long and rich history of rights and the freedom to protest and freedom of speech. The US ambassador himself commented that one thing [the] USA and the UK have in common is freedom of speech, and the idea of restricting that and [the] right to assemble because someone is offended by something is [a] slippery slope,” he said.

“When determining these things [it should be about] ... whether it is safe and peaceful. As a politician I should not be the arbiter of what is good or bad taste.”

Khan said there would be far-right and pro-Trump demonstrations taking place on Saturday. “I disagree with their views as well, but letting them protest should not mean endorsing their views ... I am not banning the pro-Trump demo either,” he added.


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Postby Philip » 13 Jul 2018 20:18

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/98 ... spain-laws

Britain’s shame: Drunk UK tourists street sex IN FRONT OF KIDS triggers new laws in Spain


THE shame of staggeringly drunk Brits having sex in the streets in front of children has triggered a new raft of get tough laws aimed at ending “holidays of excess” in Spain.
By RITA SOBOT
PUBLISHED: 11:30, Fri, Jul 13, 2018

Drunk Britons having sex in front of children has triggered new laws in Spain
Mallorca's upmarket capital of Palma has become the latest holiday destination to join the crackdown on anti-social behaviour with a raft of new rules for tourists.

The city's council yesterday approved a "Regulation Ordinance for the civic use of public spaces to improve coexistence in leisure areas".

Councillor for security, Angelica Pastor said: "This ordinance will not solve all the problems but gives tools to the police to work on. We hope that it helps to improve coexistence in the main leisure areas."

Complaints from locals about tourists largely from Britain, Germany and France have included mass drunkenness, public nudity, and even couples copulating in the streets apparently oblivious to children in the vicinity. The behavior has been so obnoxious that local militia style gangs have taken matters into their own hands on occasion.

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Palma's Mayor, Antoni Noguera said: "We will tackle excess tourism and these new regulations will help to improve our image."

The regulations allow the creation of Zones of Special Tourist Interest (ZEIC) to act more forcefully in various entertainment areas.

The new rules clampdown on so-called bottle parties in the street and on "hate crimes" where local residents might take matters into their own hands against rowdy tourists.

But the main onslaught is against alcohol which the city regards as the main evil behind anti-social problems and rowdiness.

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The Mayor said: "This ordinance has the object of intervention against the tourism of excesses that makes alcohol its main activity and that causes a bad image of Palma."

He has appealed to all tourists to "act responsibly" and respect Palma as a tourist destination, "We must all be part of the solution," he added.

The new zones will allow the police to act with greater force against disturbances.

The Mayor said: "We have some blackspots in Palma that we can put in quarantine. We have allocated many resources to Playa de Palma and this ordinance is a very powerful tool to improve the destiny."

The new rules prohibit:

• Balconing

• The sale of alcoholic drinks between midnight and 8am if it is for consumption outside the premises and not in terraces or in commercial establishments

• Bottle parties in the streets

• Using vehicles as a support for the sale of food products and beverages to the public thoroughfare - these vehicles may be confiscated

• Walking around topless unless in the immediate beach environment or stripping off or "flashing"

Mad Friday hits the UK
Sat, December 23, 2017
Across the UK Revellers celebrate Christmas during Mad Friday.




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• The sale or promotion of laughing gas or any publicity which leads to its use

• Carry out street sales individually or in groups in any of the places public or private spaces of public gatherings

• Consumption of alcoholic beverages by minors in the public space

• The encouragement or organisation of pub crawling or party boats

• Perform any sexual act which might be visible to children

• Carry out a sexual act on the public thoroughfare, in the presence of people who can see it visually

• Carry out unauthorised peddling of any type of alcoholic beverages

Breaches will be punishable by fines of between 100 and 3,000 euros depending on the severity.

However, police will have the right to decide the level of an immediate on-the-spot fine if they feel it is appropriate.


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Postby ArjunPandit » 13 Jul 2018 23:02

^^where does the line between free speech and hate speech drawn. Jayda Fransen and her associate are in jail for stating the truth


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