pankajs wrote:"if we continue on the path chosen for us ..." A couple of year back, I don't exactly remember, I read a left-liberal lament to the effect that "education is having the exact OPPOSITE effect that it was supposed to have" i.e. to say the more educated the country became in general the more "Kattar Yinduvadi" it became.
This is borne out on the ground. One just has to see the trend in the election after election following Independence. BJP did not come to power on the backs on sickular or the seekoolar but on the votes of the kattar bhagwa.
3. re:Wiki, Rashtrapati Bhavan construction was started in 1912 when there was no hint in the air of Brit$hit EVER vacating India. It was completed by 1929 and the independence movement picked up pace only after that.
So while one can read their intent to stay in India for ever from the sprawl of Rashtrapati Bhavan it was conceptualized and built much before they were forced to withdraw.
Since then, the population has only gotten more independent in its thinking as is borne out by the left-liberal lament and the rightward
tiltshift of the country.
While the Birt$hit plans may not have changed the Indian plans have changed since then. We have to take precautions but we are on the right path to carve our own density & identity in the global stage.
The rise of the Indian nationalist right has coincided, more or less, with the rise of the nationalist right in many other countries, notably in the european continent, turkey and most recently in the US.
India's confused and disorganized freedom movement had little to do with the britshits leaving. The only semblance of coherence was perhaps in subash chandra bose's efforts.
gandhi's dalliance with big business, the owners of which funded and supported him and some of these same business owners had also funded, supported and benefitted from the east India company in the many tens of decades gone by, was not altogether kosher. One did not know who exercised what influence over him and how those connections may have played out in gandhi's own actions.
nehru replacing sardar patel after nehru decisively lost the party elections to patel is very glibly explained by saying gandhi told sardar patel to hand over the reins of the congress party to nehru. Really, was that how our freedom movement was run, on the vagaries of the whims and fancy of one "mahatma" who was backed by big business and he hobnobbed with them on a daily basis.
non violence is a flawed concept in the light of its very limited use after its alleged phenomenal success in India and apart from some mention of martin luther king experimenting with it, not much success has been recorded when used outside India.
civil disobedience and hunger strikes as practiced by gandhi may have had a slightly better success rate but gandhi used a variation of it more successfully as a tool of blackmail to subdue his own followers who were left confused, nonplussed and disorganized and thus relapsed into a state of sullen inaction while gandhi gave aid and comfort to their marauding enemies in a grandstanding "mahatma" like fashion and he used this avatar frequently during his last years when he did the most damage to the Indian freedom cause and acquiesced in the butchery of thousands upon thousands of Hindus at the bloody hands of jinnah followers.
Yes, the Indian plans have changed but if the FFNGOs' backed mafia comes back to power they will get back on the old track again without missing a single beat.
let us not forget how ABA was cast aside by the mafia, much to the surprise of almost everyone in the country and also the phenomenal rise of an unknown and deranged kook called khujliwal.
Both of these events did not happen without outside help.
Hindus who lived docilely under the yoke for many hundreds of years are expected to suddenly rightward shift all in the space of a few years.
The very same Hindus in bangalore who have suddenly rightward shifted but do not even bother to get out of bed to go vote for Modi's party, causing many of his candidates to lose by the narrowest of margins are the ones who are going to oppose this by doing what, resting on someone else's laurels.
we need a better plan than depending on such dumb self serving alleged bhagwa supporters.
the padre's followers are better organized, well funded and hard working. If told to vote, they probably vote three times each before the hungover bhagwa guy even bothers to stumble out of bed.
The urban Hindu is a truly dumb guy and is more prone to the debilitating disease of secularis metropolitanitis while the rural Hindu is far more loyal, dependable and trustworthy to take care of the bhagwa.
It is also this urban Hindu who often holds the key and is not bothered enough to know it and it is this guy that needs to be motivated so that he delivers the bhagwa in the city.