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India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby chetak » 04 Dec 2017 22:06

Cosmo_R wrote:This sent the BP up a notch:
As Obama Warns Modi, Ivanka Given Lavish Welcome in India

"Obama picked up on India’s main current social issue when he said that, along with other countries, it should ensure that a Muslim population felt integrated. “That is something that should be cherished and nurtured,” he said."

http://www.newsweek.com/obama-warns-mod ... dia-728327

Question: Did Obama say the same thing to his Indonesian hosts (he grew up in Indonesia) about nurturing and cherishing Hindus in Bali?
Or, Latinos in America? Where under his watch more deportations took place than under Bush?

Under that professorial veneer Obama harbors strong likes and a view that Muslims are persecuted everywhere

This article first appeared in
https://ridingtheelephant.wordpress.com ... ays-obama/

Where he changed the header to:

"India’s Muslims should be “cherished and nurtured” says Obama

Elliot is the BritCommie who I think wrote for WAPO. Usual 'White Mughal' stuff

https://ridingtheelephant.wordpress.com/about/



The hosts who paid him to come got their moneys' worth.

lootyens dilli and the congis/commies made their point.

for obama, it was just another day, another dollar.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby ramana » 05 Dec 2017 00:21

KLNMurthy wrote:
ramana wrote:Could be Haley too.

I suppose, but all the MSM is claiming that it won't be Namrata and it will be Mike.

I would expect (hope) Namrata to understand India's perspective. But given current information, we should prepare for Pompeo.



I wouldn't expect that. She has to be loyal to her country interests.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby Malayappan » 06 Dec 2017 08:23

U.S.-India Insight: Do Not Give Up on the Bilateral Investment Treaty
Rationale for the BIT for the Indian Side:
U.S. investors (including capital aggregators like pension fund managers and global life insurers) are well aware of many recent cases where investors have seen reversals due to government action. This is a very real threat in India, and a BIT is one “piece of the puzzle” to bring additional security. It may help un-stick capital that sits on the sidelines today.

Some interesting insights into commercial issues.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby Vayutuvan » 06 Dec 2017 23:59

mappunni wrote:saavugrakki ghose :rotfl: :rotfl:

Sethalum She will come back as Pisas !!

Translation please, pretty please.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby devesh » 07 Dec 2017 13:41

ramana wrote:
KLNMurthy wrote:I suppose, but all the MSM is claiming that it won't be Namrata and it will be Mike.

I would expect (hope) Namrata to understand India's perspective. But given current information, we should prepare for Pompeo.



I wouldn't expect that. She has to be loyal to her country interests.



something tells me Tillerson shouldn't be counted out just yet. He might yet survive. Some intriguing characters brought him to Trump's attention. For a purpose.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby periaswamy » 07 Dec 2017 19:35

vayutuvan: "Sethalum She will come back as Pisas !!" Translation please, pretty please.


Even after she dies, she will torment us all as a vicious ghost.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby CRamS » 07 Dec 2017 21:15



I simultaneously weep profusely and laugh in contempt at why Bharat mata is cursed with a disgusting elite who control the narrative. In any self respecting country, the elite would have demanded answers from an ex president on why US p!sses on India like this, but instead we have the elite fawning over this Obama like colonial diseased rats falling over each other and celebrating his bogus remark on 'religious tolerance' and using that as a stick to beat BJP and ModiJi. As we have many times discussed, for this elite, India is not their country per se, but rather they consider themselves to be part of westernized slaves interpreting India for the benefit of their slave masters. Ackkk Thoo.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby periaswamy » 07 Dec 2017 21:24

CRamS: I simultaneously weep profusely...etc.


This is not fuel -- this is tar/bitumen for laying roads. Just do a web search on that product and the import/export documents for it. States that pretty clearly. Just because Indian journalists are a bunch of low IQ cretins, doesn't mean we have to explode into a ball of mucus and tears everytime they write some politically motivated BS that is not rooted in reality.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby Cosmo_R » 07 Dec 2017 22:53

periaswamy wrote:
CRamS: I simultaneously weep profusely...etc.


This is not fuel -- this is tar/bitumen for laying roads. Just do a web search on that product and the import/export documents for it. States that pretty clearly. Just because Indian journalists are a bunch of low IQ cretins, doesn't mean we have to explode into a ball of mucus and tears everytime they write some politically motivated BS that is not rooted in reality.


Well said. :)

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby Bart S » 08 Dec 2017 00:50

periaswamy wrote:
CRamS: I simultaneously weep profusely...etc.


This is not fuel -- this is tar/bitumen for laying roads. Just do a web search on that product and the import/export documents for it. States that pretty clearly. Just because Indian journalists are a bunch of low IQ cretins, doesn't mean we have to explode into a ball of mucus and tears everytime they write some politically motivated BS that is not rooted in reality.


It isn't just the journalists, some self-appointed 'environmentalist' has filed a case in the Supreme Court who banned the import and the govt is pleading for some exceptions to the ban to be allowed!

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby periaswamy » 08 Dec 2017 00:55

Bart S. It isn't just the journalists, some self-appointed 'environmentalist' has filed a case in the Supreme Court who banned the import and the govt is pleading for some exceptions to the ban to be allowed!



Why is the govt. bending over to the morons in the Supreme Court and ask them to mind their own business and not interfere in policy making? Who the hell are these unelected and self-electing jokers who have never faced an election to make policy decisions day after day? Is this BJP govt. really that witless to put the brakes on the SC judges?

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby ramana » 08 Dec 2017 00:57

periaswamy, The whole article talks about how this pet coke is being used as a fuel as it burns hotter than normal coal.
And Reliance is ramping up its own production to match the imports.

I think industry should find ways to burn it cleaner and have sulfur scrubbers or else whole of North India will have acid rain.

Maybe burn this in electric generating plants and use the electricity instead of this distributed burning in furnaces.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby Dipanker » 08 Dec 2017 01:00

India to ban imports of petcoke as concerns about air pollution grow

DECEMBER 6, 2017 NEW DELHI—India's government says it plans to phase out imports of a dirty fuel known as petroleum coke, or petcoke, after an Associated Press investigation found US oil refineries are exporting vast quantities of the product to India.

But when it comes to domestic use, the Indian government seems to be going in a different direction. The government this week argued in court that restrictions on petcoke around polluted New Delhi should be eased for certain low-impact industries. The move has infuriated environmentalists.

The AP investigation found the US sold about 20 times more petcoke to India last year than it did six years earlier after US refineries struggled to sell the product at home. In 2016, the US sent more than 8.8 million tons of petcoke to India, enough to fill the Empire State Building eight times over.

Petcoke is a bottom-of-the-barrel leftover from the refining of Canadian tar sands crude and other heavy oils. It's cheaper and burns hotter than coal. But laboratory tests on imported petcoke used near New Delhi found it contained 17 times more sulfur than the limit set for coal.

A day after the AP investigation was published, Indian Petroleum and Natural Gas Minister Dharmendra Pradhan said the government was formulating a policy to end imports.
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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby periaswamy » 08 Dec 2017 01:17

Study of Comparison of coke and petro coke

Utility companies used 3,852 dcd of petroleum coke (less than 5% of annual production) as a
power plant supplemental fuel blending with coal in 1996
, because petroleum coke has advantages
of low price (36% lower at Wst or 46% lower at %/MMBtu), high heating value, and low ash
content [I]. The disadvantages of petroleum coke as a fuel are expense of a dual solid bel
handling and crushing system, high sulfur, high nickel and vanadium content.


US has been running power plants since the 90s with a mix of coke and coal -- does not seem to be used on its own, as the tables on the last two pages of the paper in the link. reduction in coal burning plants in the US and EPA regulations seems to be reason for search for export market.


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