Kashi wrote:Ah yes. talk of tangents. Suddenly the Indo-US thread has gone off into slums and garbage in Indian cities. What next, we should not have a space programme because- slums and garbage and poverty and lack of toilets? Now where have we read these arguments before???
Before it went into economics, the thread first went into serious meaningless one-liners by some when other posters countered roos-lovers prescription of unabashed hatred for US with logic.
India needs to take care of its interests. And yes, economic upliftment of the long suffering masses must be one of the prime goals of Indian foreign policy. Getting sanctions slapped on ourselves by US because we should hate US because US is evil is poor argument. If at all, you tried to make one anywhere.
Very productive for Pakis considering it has fought India to a standstill being 5,6 times smaller.
--- Ah yes, 1971 was a standstill, Siachen was a standstill, Kargil was a standstill. If those were standstills, wonder what is Cuba or for that matter Iraq and Afghanistan..
And of course, Pakistan is a quintessential success story in ALL socio-economic indices.
1971 was Pakistan's internal war. If you think Kargil and Siachen are victories, you have rather low bar. Yes, Cuba is a standstill. And yes, US lost in Iraq.
Pakistan is a failed state because it has been trying to fight off a much larger India with less resources.
Roos-lovers suggest that we do something similar and get into fight with US with 1/10th its economy and 1/20th its alliance network. In short, we must do our own beda gark so that we can indulge in chest thumping in the name of strategic autonomy and independent foreign policy.
They shafted dear Russia.
----After shafting your dear Russia, China went on to shaft dear Unkil (EU and Japan as well) and it continues till date with Unkil happily supplying the lube. If we must take a leaf from Cheeni playbook, it should be this.
They have recently started shafting US and Japan after making full use of US and japanese investment to build up economic strength. So what is the Indian GDP compared to US and Chinese GDPs, pray tell.
I am surprised at the attitude that just because we supposedly GUBOed to the Soviets/Russians in the past we should now GUBO to Unkil since it will be more productive. I would rather not GUBO at all. Ack thoo only.
When you know only two things - GUBO and not to GUBO, then there isnt much cerebral capacity to discuss. Besides, the argument to begin with was made to counter roos-lovers prescription of unlimited hatred for US.
You needlessly jumped in to waste other people`s time, wrongly assuming that anyone was prescribing GUBOing to anyone. You sure have internalised BRF acronyms. I will give you that.
But not much else.