India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby ramana » 20 Jun 2019 05:17

Appears Trump wants to cut H1B visas to India to 10-15% as a measure against data localization.


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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby uskumar » 20 Jun 2019 12:17

ramana wrote:Appears Trump wants to cut H1B visas to India to 10-15% as a measure against data localization.

H1bs issued today don't benefit indian companies. Most of them goes to fly by night consulting companies. Why should India bother about it. Having said that, I believe data localisation will be reviewed. It is typical of Modi government to announce something and then change the stance after MNC companies make a huge and cry about it.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby Singha » 20 Jun 2019 15:42

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby Singha » 20 Jun 2019 15:45

the biggies corner most of the visas. the salaries are skewed above because the highest paying cos are in high cost locations like bay area and seattle
and their ability to pay is much more

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby g.sarkar » 20 Jun 2019 17:18

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartande ... a719ae71a2
Attorneys Say Trump Lacks Legal Authority To Limit H-1B Visas For Indians
Stuart Anderson
As part of its increasingly tense trade dispute with India, Trump administration officials have threatened to severely limit the number of H-1B visas high-skilled professionals from India can receive. But does the Trump administration possess this type of unilateral authority?
“The United States has told India it is considering caps on H-1B work visas for nations that force foreign companies to store data locally . . . widening the two countries’ row over tariffs and trade,” reports Reuters. On June 15, 2019, India retaliated against the United States by increasing tariffs on a small set of U.S. imports, including apples and finished metal products, after the U.S. rescinded India’s trade privileges under the Generalized System of Preferences, according to the Washington Post.
As with other administration trade actions, the dispute did not end there. Reuters reported:
Two senior Indian government officials said on Wednesday they were briefed last week on a U.S. government plan to cap H-1B visas issued each year to Indians at between 10% and 15% of the annual quota. There is no current country-specific limit on the 85,000 H-1B work visas granted each year and an estimated 70% go to Indians.
Both officials said they were told the plan was linked to the global push for “data localization,” in which a country places restrictions on data as a way to gain better control over it and potentially curb the power of international companies. U.S. firms have lobbied hard against data localization rules around the world.
A Washington-based industry source aware of India-U.S. negotiations also said the United States was deliberating capping the number of H-1B visas in response to global data storage rules. The move, however, was not solely targeted at India, the source said. “The proposal is that any country that does data localization, then it (H-1B visas) would be limited to about 15% of the quota. It’s being discussed internally in the U.S. government,” the person said.
In FY 2017, Indian nationals, working for a variety of employers, received approximately 63% of the H-1B petitions for initial employment in the United States, according to U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) data. Initial employment cases are primarily those that count against the annual H-1B limit of 65,000, plus a 20,000 exemption for individuals with a master’s degree or higher from a U.S. university. Reducing the annual number for India from over 60% down to 10% would mean up to 45,000 fewer Indians a year would obtain a new H-1B petition each year, based on a National Foundation for American Policy estimate.
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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby Karan M » 20 Jun 2019 19:58

Its just pandering to Trumps GOP vote bank which wants brownies to stop flowing into the US.
Bannon may have gone, but his ideas are well & alive in the Trump admin.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby Suraj » 20 Jun 2019 22:57

uskumar wrote:
ramana wrote:Appears Trump wants to cut H1B visas to India to 10-15% as a measure against data localization.

H1bs issued today don't benefit indian companies. Most of them goes to fly by night consulting companies. Why should India bother about it. Having said that, I believe data localisation will be reviewed. It is typical of Modi government to announce something and then change the stance after MNC companies make a huge and cry about it.

Please provide reference cases of how the government previously implemented policy in this manner.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby Rishi_Tri » 21 Jun 2019 02:01

uskumar wrote:
ramana wrote:Appears Trump wants to cut H1B visas to India to 10-15% as a measure against data localization.

H1bs issued today don't benefit indian companies. Most of them goes to fly by night consulting companies. Why should India bother about it. Having said that, I believe data localisation will be reviewed. It is typical of Modi government to announce something and then change the stance after MNC companies make a huge and cry about it.


Making sweeping statements such as 'modi government to announce something and change the stance after MNC companies make hue and cry about it' are best supported through cases.

Ex where Modi has taken the most powerful of MNCS.. Walmart, Amazon... on. They were selling multi brand products (banned under indian retail laws) through wholly owned subsidiaries through online channel. Amendments were brought, firms given months of notice period. Just before this actually happened articles appeared all over western media on Indian Retail laws. Eventually Amazon, Walmart (through Flipkart) operations had to be scaled down and products withdrawn. That is why products disappeared from their sites overnight. Result - Amazon, Walmart have had to write down their Indian investments and scale down Indian revenue.

Data Localization is even more critical and no nation in the world should allow their nation's data to be stored anywhere else. In a world where Digital Identity is everything and with linking of Adhaar etc. no way data pertaining to Indians should reside anywhere else. Data Localization is here to stay whether some tom dick or harry corp likes it or not. H1B visa cap, if it happens, is but lose change when it comes to importance of data.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby ramana » 21 Jun 2019 04:25

Next 18 months will be choppy relations between US and India. mainly due to former.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby Najunamar » 21 Jun 2019 05:11

Ramanagaru, why the 18 mo limit? Do you think Trump Raj 2.0 will be different? Or will on that time India be able to apply enough leverage to cause pain to US? (Second is more filled with hope than a realistic assessment for now- may be by 2025 we'll be there)

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby NRao » 21 Jun 2019 05:14

Data Localization is even more critical and no nation in the world should allow their nation's data to be stored anywhere else


No idea what Trump or anyone is yelling about. That is the norm in financial systems. Vanguard offers its services across the globe, but guarantees that data will not cross national boundaries. It has been doing that for eons.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby ramana » 21 Jun 2019 05:28

I came up.with 18 month as by that time elections in.US would be over and atmosphere calm down.
All US election cycle

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby Singha » 21 Jun 2019 08:01

On a per employee profit basis visa and mastercard are in the top10 with the likes of apple google fbook msft

So their profit margins are very high. A bit rich of them to whine about increased costs

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby Singha » 21 Jun 2019 08:04

See the chart here https://www.visualcapitalist.com/top-20 ... -employee/

And verisign is what just a trusted root certificate authority for x509 certs? Another good example of simple tech which goras make ubiquitous and skim the pennies on vast number of transactions

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby Singha » 21 Jun 2019 08:07

Share that chart on teetar...fan the flames...tag the worthies in indian media

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby Mort Walker » 21 Jun 2019 09:29

g.sarkar wrote:https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2019/06/20/attorneys-say-trump-lacks-legal-authority-to-limit-h-1b-visas-for-indians/#44a719ae71a2
Attorneys Say Trump Lacks Legal Authority To Limit H-1B Visas For Indians
Stuart Anderson
As part of its increasingly tense trade dispute with India, Trump administration officials have threatened to severely limit the number of H-1B visas high-skilled professionals from India can receive. But does the Trump administration possess this type of unilateral authority?
“The United States has told India it is considering caps on H-1B work visas for nations that force foreign companies to store data locally . . . widening the two countries’ row over tariffs and trade,” reports Reuters. On June 15, 2019, India retaliated against the United States by increasing tariffs on a small set of U.S. imports, including apples and finished metal products, after the U.S. rescinded India’s trade privileges under the Generalized System of Preferences, according to the Washington Post.
As with other administration trade actions, the dispute did not end there. Reuters reported:
Two senior Indian government officials said on Wednesday they were briefed last week on a U.S. government plan to cap H-1B visas issued each year to Indians at between 10% and 15% of the annual quota. There is no current country-specific limit on the 85,000 H-1B work visas granted each year and an estimated 70% go to Indians.
Both officials said they were told the plan was linked to the global push for “data localization,” in which a country places restrictions on data as a way to gain better control over it and potentially curb the power of international companies. U.S. firms have lobbied hard against data localization rules around the world.
A Washington-based industry source aware of India-U.S. negotiations also said the United States was deliberating capping the number of H-1B visas in response to global data storage rules. The move, however, was not solely targeted at India, the source said. “The proposal is that any country that does data localization, then it (H-1B visas) would be limited to about 15% of the quota. It’s being discussed internally in the U.S. government,” the person said.
In FY 2017, Indian nationals, working for a variety of employers, received approximately 63% of the H-1B petitions for initial employment in the United States, according to U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) data. Initial employment cases are primarily those that count against the annual H-1B limit of 65,000, plus a 20,000 exemption for individuals with a master’s degree or higher from a U.S. university. Reducing the annual number for India from over 60% down to 10% would mean up to 45,000 fewer Indians a year would obtain a new H-1B petition each year, based on a National Foundation for American Policy estimate.
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The Trump administration seems to come up with these half-baked ideas to implement policy at the executive branch. More than likely this has been coming from Stephen Miller who has been giving Trump bad counsel. Miller is Jewish but an absolute racist when it comes to immigration. He doesn't know how to implement policy and has ideas on immigration which backfire. Case in point was that in 2017, the US congress offered Trump ten-of-billions for a border wall in exchange for DACA amnesty. Miller convinced Trump to turn it down, even though it came from their own party, and subsequently resulted in the 35-day US government shutdown last Dec-Jan.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby g.sarkar » 21 Jun 2019 19:37

https://www.news18.com/news/india/no-pl ... _top_pos_1
In Big Relief for Indian Techies, US Says No Plans to Cap H-1B Visa Program Over Data Storage Debate
The United States had reportedly told India it was considering restricting the H-1B visa programs for countries like India over their data storage requirement. Reuters: June 21, 2019.
Washingtion: The Trump administration has no plans to cap H-1B work visas for nations that force foreign companies to store data locally, the State Department said on Thursday.
Reuters reported on Wednesday that the United States had told India it was considering restricting the H-1B visa programs for countries with the data storage requirement. The H-1B program issues US visas to skilled foreign workers.
"The Trump Administration has no plans to place caps on H-1B work visas for nations that force foreign companies to store data locally," a State Department spokeswoman said in a statement in response to the Reuters article.
It is "completely separate from our ongoing discussions with India about the importance of ensuring the free flow of data across borders," the spokeswoman added.
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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby CRamS » 21 Jun 2019 20:21

ramana wrote:Next 18 months will be choppy relations between US and India. mainly due to former.


RamanaGaru, here is my exachage with 2 this MIT dude who revels in condescending sarcasam against ModiJi, and of course well-known ModiJi hater and so called 'economist' Rupa subramanya


Rupa SubramanyaVerified account
@rupasubramanya

Absolutely. What this shows is @realDonaldTrump does not take India and it’s foreign policy establishment seriously. He’s not impressed by Yoga Day, soft power and Pakodanomics. What he cares about is playing hard ball with someone as tough and crafty as he is.Rupa Subramanya added,
Vipin Narang

@NarangVipin
Even the most die-hard rosiest-color-glasses defenders of the state of US-India relations have to concede that this is....bad. https://twitter.com/suhasinih/status/11 ... 8412762112



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Replying to @rupasubramanya @realDonaldTrump
If Indians by and large take pride in & do Yoga, its a great thing, doesn't matter what a thug like Trump thinks. Setting aside "India is emerging superpower" delusion, it is clear that US white Christian nationalism & strong Hindu nationalist India are oil and water, immiscible


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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby ramana » 22 Jun 2019 01:27

You could also rub their noses and say
'US already denied planning any changes to H1B program due to Pakodamonics!'

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby disha » 22 Jun 2019 04:40

g.sarkar wrote:https://www.news18.com/news/india/no-plans-to-cap-h-1b-visa-for-indian-techies-confirms-us-state-department-2196909.html?ref=hp_top_pos_1
In Big Relief for Indian Techies, US Says No Plans to Cap H-1B Visa Program Over Data Storage Debate


I think this was an attempt by #mediapimps and their backers to do the following:

1. Show Modi government in bad light ("Mudi shud rezine, since Mudi cannot influence his dear friend Trump for the sake of poor tekies") and weaken the current government bargaining position.

2. Paid #mediapimps on the payroll of teetar/Whatsup* etc want to field for their respective companies on data localization. Currently data localization laws exist in Europe. And China. So why would Umrica's government take a special interest to *force* India to not have data localization laws? This is a path which I am not sure Umrika's government would even want to think leave alone take.

3. The entire campaign on H1B to be cut significantly for Indian tekies as retaliation gob-smacked of a campaign too intelligent by half! American companies will then have to search and hire thousands of techies from China while the flood of Indian students to American Univ will dry up.

Funnily, companies like teetar/whatsup that do not want to work with GOI on data localization relies on significant Indian workforce to get their product and services out.

In a nutshell MEA went "meh meh" and the US went "meh" and governments wondering what this was all about.

*teetar/whatsup are copyrights of their respective owning companies.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby disha » 22 Jun 2019 04:45

CRamS wrote:

Rupa SubramanyaVerified account
@rupasubramanya

Absolutely. What this shows is @realDonaldTrump does not take India and it’s foreign policy establishment seriously. He’s not impressed by Yoga Day, soft power and Pakodanomics. What he cares about is playing hard ball with someone as tough and crafty as he is.Rupa Subramanya added,
Vipin Narang



Remember the 2-bit #DoltEconomist Rupa spews non-sense. And she wants to be "in news" so that she can sell her wares. Best thing is to ignore her.

At the same time, i do want her to work her #mediapimps for her own ego., Maybe even start a rumour that Rupa S is being considered for nobel in economics. It will bring a spotlight on all the #Dolt eCONomists who miss everything. Including the housing crisis, the financial crises, GDP numbers of major economy etc.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby Aditya_V » 22 Jun 2019 12:31

Isnt this guy Vipin Narang rabidli anti IAF and pro PAF supporting Lara whats her name

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby Gyan » 22 Jun 2019 13:20

ramana wrote:Appears Trump wants to cut H1B visas to India to 10-15% as a measure against data localization.


Seems like Rumour being encouraged by China, leftist, Congress leaning media.


Hindu.....?

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby chetak » 25 Jun 2019 00:00

Donald J. Trump Verified account @realDonaldTrump

China gets 91% of its Oil from the Straight, Japan 62%, & many other countries likewise. So why are we protecting the shipping lanes for other countries (many years) for zero compensation. All of these countries should be protecting their own ships on what has always been....
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Donald J. Trump Verified account @realDonaldTrump

6h6 hours ago

....a dangerous journey. We don’t even need to be there in that the U.S. has just become (by far) the largest producer of Energy anywhere in the world! The U.S. request for Iran is very simple - No Nuclear Weapons and No Further Sponsoring of Terror!

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby disha » 25 Jun 2019 02:16

Why was Ombaba given Nobel Peace Prize? And why is Trump hated in Europe?

In a nutshell, British/French required access through Suez all the way to Indo-China for energy and colonies. Post WWII, it became US's job to "protect" european interests. It also worked well for US since oil flowed from there and US needed allies in ME against the Soviet Union.

With collapse of Soviet Union and the euro zone going back to its pre-colonial "growth" and demand for energy plateauing in US and US itself producing more energy domestically, the next war is over knowledge and talent and skills and ideas and inventions.

Then why spend billions protecting energy sources for others? Trump due to his transactional business acumen has come to same conclusions. What is the need for America in ME? Isnt' it like the need for Bakistan in Upaghanistan? Like "strategic depth".

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby hgupta » 25 Jun 2019 04:04

Because if Trump asks other nations such as China or Japan to pay or put up force protection, US will cede influence. He is being short sighted in the fact that yes US will not have to pay but will cede its sphere of influence once other nations start paying.

Other nations were happy and content to let US protect the straits at its own expense in exchange for US establishing a dominating sphere of influence. It is not a one way street.

Atlantisists do not like ceding the sphere of influence in exchange for not paying more to protect the straits or water ways because it threatens their long view that keeping control of your sphere of influence through paying for it means long term stability for the US economy. Europe was content to let US lead the way because it meant that the countries of Europe wouldn't vying for spheres of influence. Prior to WW2, you had four different European countries not counting Russia vying for spheres of influence - Britain, France, Germany, and Italy. Post WW2, it was just US and USSR and it led to a stable world order with neither side gaining the leverage over. Now post Cold War, it is just the US and Europe was content to live within US sphere of influence because it meant an end to wars on the European mainland and stability henceforth. But Trump cannot see past the dollar signs and does not recognize that keeping the straits or major waterways within its sphere of influence and paying for it meant long term stability for US commerce and trade not to mention favorable trade terms that it got other nations to concede, for starters, Saudi Arabia giving preferential treatment to US wrt oil prices etc.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby Rudradev » 25 Jun 2019 04:21

So the USCIRF released yet another "freedom of religion report" on India. It says all the expected things. If you feel like tickling your bulemia you can read the report here:

https://www.uscirf.gov/sites/default/fi ... A_2019.pdf

The Indian Govt has rejected the report.
https://www.india-aware.com/featured/in ... om-report/

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In response to a question about the latest report on International Religious Freedom published by the US State Department, External Affairs Ministry spokesperson Raveesh Kumar said the Indian Constitution guarantees fundamental rights to all its citizens including minority communities.

It is widely acknowledged India is a vibrant democracy where the Constitution provides protection of religious freedom, and where democratic governance and rule of law further promote and protect the fundamental rights, he said.

India sees no locus standi for a foreign entity or government to pronounce on the state of its citizens constitutionally protected rights, the spokesperson added.


But here's the good part. Under Trump, the USCIRF (as with many other government departments and bodies) has been handed over to a loudmouth Trump-supporter to run. Meet the current Chair of the USCIRF...

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/frcs ... l-freedom/

Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, was elected chair of the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom on Monday, according to a press release. The USCIRF is a bipartisan commission created in 1998 whose members are appointed by the president and congressional leaders.

When Perkins was appointed to the Commission last year on the recommendation of Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, Right Wing Watch noted that his appointment was “deeply troubling given the long track record that Perkins and FRC have had in spreading anti-Muslim rhetoric in the United States.” :mrgreen:

As recently as 2015, Perkins claimed that Islam “is incompatible with the Constitution.” :eek: That same year, he defended calls to restrict the immigration of Muslims by declaring that “only 16 percent of Islam is a religion.” :shock: The year before, he suggested that Christians who support legal equality for LGBTQ people don’t have the same legal protections as more conservative Christians, because a “true religious freedom” has to be “based on orthodox religious viewpoints.”

It’s also worth noting that the Family Research Council is one of the Religious Right groups that have eagerly worked with the most religiously oppressive regimes—those classified by the USCIRF as among the worst for religious liberty—in order to resist international recognition for the rights of LGBTQ people and to defend governments’ right to enforce “traditional” religious views on gender, sexuality, and family.
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Perkins urged pastors and churches to adopt prisoners of conscience and pray for religious freedom for “every man, woman and child on the face of the planet.” It’s good to hear Perkins affirming that religious freedom is for everyone, because he and his FRC colleague Jerry Boykin have a decidedly mixed record at best when it comes to defending the First Amendment rights of American Muslims



LOTS of ammunition here folks. Not just against USCIRF itself, which is bad enough, but against all the FOIL/FOSA/Berkeley-Haas scumbags who partnered with it in the campaign to deny Modi a visa, and continue to piggyback on its "reports" to justify their Hinduphobic activism even today.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby NRao » 25 Jun 2019 08:00

:shock:

I do not follow this thread, so apologies if already discussed.

Mike Pompeo to arrive in India on Tuesday; all eyes on strengthening defence ties

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To allow for transfer of technology for building combat jets locally and other joint ventures, the United States had sought guarantees for the protection of classified information and technology.

A draft of the agreement called Industrial Security Annex is now ready and will go up before the Indian cabinet for approval in the next few weeks, sources aware of the India-US defence negotiations said.

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The rest is tame.

On "Industrial Security Annex"

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby chetak » 25 Jun 2019 14:07

The New York Times casually acknowledged that it sends major scoops to the US government before publication, to make sure “national security officials” have “no concerns.”



The New York Times has publicly acknowledged that it sends some of its stories to the US government for approval from “national security officials” before publication.

This confirms what veteran New York Times correspondents like James Risen have said: The American newspaper of record regularly collaborates with the US government, suppressing reporting that top officials don’t want made public.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby Cain Marko » 27 Jun 2019 03:53

Pompeo sir lectures India on maintaining religious freedoms.. Ongoing story. Wonder who put him up to it?

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby g.sarkar » 27 Jun 2019 05:13

https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/natio ... 93370.html
India will do what is in its national interest: Jaishankar to Pompeo on S-400 deal
Posted at: Jun 26, 2019
India on Wednesday told the US that it will go by its national interest on S-400 missile deal with sanctions-hit Russia, even as New Delhi and Washington vowed to work their way through it as also other prickly issues, including those related to trade, to take the bilateral ties to new levels.

India’s strong stance on the S-400 deal was conveyed by External Affairs Minister S Jaishankar to his American counterpart Mike Pompeo during their wide-ranging meeting, the first high-level interaction between the two countries after return of the Modi government to power last month.

The two leaders held talks in one-on-one and delegation-level formats followed by working lunch and resolved to deepen Indo-US cooperation in combating terrorism, including by strengthening intelligence-sharing.

Later at a joint press interaction, Pompeo and Jaishankar admitted to have divergent views on trade, but asserted that friends and large trading partners will have “issues” which can be resolved.
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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby chetak » 27 Jun 2019 05:26

The US is probing pressure points and it may be signalling which way it is going to go in putting pressure on India to yield on key trade and security issues.


This is a favourite, often played and well used ploy of the foggy bottom bunch of liberandus and the defacto deep state.


If the US has become so narrowly transactionally focussed on all aspects its relations with other countries, it may be wise for India to stand her ground as far as India's supreme national interest(s) are concerned.



Let's stand up together for religious freedom, says Mike Pompeo days after US releases report on mob attacks in India



Let's stand up together for religious freedom, says Mike Pompeo days after US releases report on mob attacks in India


Jun 26, 2019.



New Delhi: Asserting that the world is worse off when religious rights are compromised, US secretary of state Mike Pompeo on Wednesday called for speaking "strongly" in favour of religious freedom, days after the US alleged that mob attacks by violent extremist Hindu groups against minority communities, particularly Muslims, continued in India in 2018.

Last week, the US state department, in its annual 2018 International Religious Freedom Report, had alleged that "mob attacks by violent extremist Hindu groups against minority communities, particularly Muslims, continued in India in 2018, amid rumours that victims had traded or killed cows for beef", evoking a sharp reaction from the ruling BJP which said it shows a clear bias against the Narendra Modi government.

"India is the birthplace of four major world religions. Let's stand up together for religious freedom for all. Let's speak out strongly together in favour of those rights for whenever we do compromise those rights, the world is worse off," Pompeo said in his 'India policy speech' at the India International Centre in New delhi.

Apart from referring to violence against minorities, the US report, released on 21 June, also alleged that some senior leaders of the BJP "made inflammatory speeches against minority communities".

Reacting sharply to the report, BJP media head and Rajya Sabha MP Anil Baluni in a statement said, "The basic presumption in this report that there is some grand design behind anti-minority violence is simply false. On the contrary, in most of such cases, these instances are carried out as a result of local disputes and by (people with) criminal mindsets."

Whenever needed, Prime Minister Narendra Modi and other BJP leaders have strongly deplored violence against minorities and weaker sections of the society, he added.


Earlier, Pompeo, who is in New Delhi on a two-day visit, called on Modi and held comprehensive talks with his Indian counterpart S Jaishankar.


Lets stand up together for religious freedom, says Mike Pompeo days after US releases report on mob attacks in India

US secretary of state Mike Pompeo on Wednesday. Twitter/@ANI

In his brief speech lasting nearly 15 minutes, Pompeo also said the US is pleased to see the UN designating Jaish-e-Mohammed chief Masood Azhar a global terrorist.

Recently, India voted against a Palestinian NGO that supported terrorism at the UN and showed rewarding terrorism is wrong, he said.

"India is more and more standing up on world stage and the US welcomes its assertiveness," Pompeo said.

He hailed Modi and President Donald Trump, saying they are leaders who aren't scared to take risks and the two countries are poised to do "incredible things together".

"We start from a good place we are blessed that India-US friendship is rooted in strong foundation. Rule of law, respect for human dignity, importance of civil society — these ideals are believed in by both Indians and Americans," he said, adding though the two nations are 10,000 miles away but as two democracies they are "very close" and ought to be even closer.

Talking about the meetings he had with the Indian leadership, he said the talks were not just about bilateral ties, but a lot of time was spent on important topics.

"There is a misconception that our countries cannot be full partners but that is not true look what already happened. You have made hard choices to cut off oil imports from Iran. You have gone away from purchasing Venezuelan oil. Those decisions weren't without cost. We are doing everything we can to ensure you have crude imports.We appreciate your efforts in pushing these regimes to behave like normal countries," Pompeo said.

"We shouldn't see each other only through bilateral lens. We should see each other for what we are, great democracies, good friends," he added.

Today, 60 percent of global maritime trade transits through India-Pacific, in past weeks Islamic Republic of Iran has attacked tankers from Japan, Norway, Saudi Arabia, and United Arab Emirates, he said.

Noting that for the first time in South China Sea, India and the US were able to reinforce their partnership and the freedom of navigation throughout international waterways, he also wondered,"Can America and India strategise more comprehensively on how to safeguard free and open seaways, all throughout the world. Can we work together towards cleaner energy."

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby ramana » 27 Jun 2019 05:59

Cain Marko wrote:Pompeo sir lectures India on maintaining religious freedoms.. Ongoing story. Wonder who put him up to it?

DT

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby chetak » 27 Jun 2019 07:32

this unspeakable creep should have fried for his crime as did indeed his wife also deserved the same fate for ill treating the little kid.

such criminals rarely have a peaceful stay in prison.


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Indian-American adoptive father of Sherin Mathews sentenced to life




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Wesley Mathews, the Indian-American foster father of three-year-old Sherin Mathews, was sentenced to life in prison by a judge in Dallas on Wednesday for the death of the Indian toddler in 2017.


Mathews, 39, pleaded guilty Monday to a lesser charge of injury to a child in Sherin’s death. He was originally charged with capital murder by authorities in the US state of Texas.

Mathews stared ahead and did not look at jurors as the judge sentenced him to life in prison, US media reports said.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby g.sarkar » 27 Jun 2019 08:06

He got 30 to life. His life in prison will be a difficult one and he may be killed if he is not put in protective custody. Sherin was from an orphanage in India and was named Saraswati before adoption.
Gautam

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby chetak » 27 Jun 2019 08:13

g.sarkar wrote:He got 30 to life. His life in prison will be a difficult one and he may be killed if he is not put in protective custody. Sherin was from an orphanage in India and was named Saraswati before adoption.
Gautam


I understand that this family and some other associated ones have lost their PIO privileges.

the little girl has gone on to a better life, far away from such rice bag predators.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby Pulikeshi » 27 Jun 2019 09:47

ramana wrote:
Cain Marko wrote:Pompeo sir lectures India on maintaining religious freedoms.. Ongoing story. Wonder who put him up to it?

DT


Ironic - in the heydays of NAM - India was the one morally sermonizing the US :mrgreen:
Shame same achievement onlee

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby mappunni » 27 Jun 2019 10:06

chetak wrote:this unspeakable creep should have fried for his crime as did indeed his wife also deserved the same fate for ill treating the little kid.

such criminals rarely have a peaceful stay in prison.


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Indian-American adoptive father of Sherin Mathews sentenced to life




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Wesley Mathews, the Indian-American foster father of three-year-old Sherin Mathews, was sentenced to life in prison by a judge in Dallas on Wednesday for the death of the Indian toddler in 2017.


Mathews, 39, pleaded guilty Monday to a lesser charge of injury to a child in Sherin’s death. He was originally charged with capital murder by authorities in the US state of Texas.

Mathews stared ahead and did not look at jurors as the judge sentenced him to life in prison, US media reports said.


In my neck of woods. I was there in Richardson when they were looking for the little girl. Heard on the radio that he will never get out of the prison alive, no chance of parole.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby Vikas » 27 Jun 2019 10:16

Why does Indian establishment reacts to the reports published by Al-Amreeki institutions ? Why give credibility to such toilet paper reports ?


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