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India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

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BS article.

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So poisonous these americans :

US officials privately admit to concern over Sitharaman’s reserved presence, which contrasts with Parrikar’s gregariousness. “As a commerce minister she came off as cold and haughty and her lack of confidence caused her to stick to her positions. That effectively stalled the trade dialogue”, opines a senior American industry leader.

Sources say Mattis will discuss with Sitharaman the implications of “Major Defence Partner”, a category that Washington placed India in last year; and how New Delhi proposes to enlarge Indian “economic assistance and development” in Afghanistan, which Trump called for last month. Mattis himself is a key driver of an expanded US presence and role in Afghanistan.


Meaning instead of sticking to her position she should be flexible in accordance with "Massa superior nation's wishes..." That is addressing the concerns of US companies about tech transfers of latest greatest jets like f16 & f18, she should ask for none. But just buy ready-made platforms which every year superior master race usa-inspectors will come to inspect and she should order officers of forces to stand attention while american masters inspect.

Oh and if 4 or 8 or 16 years later some clinton/obama types cheen-porki lovers come to power t hen they can of course sanction else you handover cashmere.

Some bloody partnership.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby srin » 25 Sep 2017 22:56

^^ When it comes to Indian journalists, ad hominem is actually a good idea. Saw the author of the article and I could guess most of it.

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Postby Mort Walker » 26 Sep 2017 06:40

So poisonous these americans


Are they any less poisonous than the corrupt Russians and French?

At the end of the day if India wants to be a superpower it must have its own military industrial complex that will be consortium of the IITs, IIS, the many governmental research and development organizations, military public sector production facilities, private industries, and all branches of the services reporting to a MoD type head that is a cabinet level executive. This executive would be a cabinet level minister answerable to parliament.

Until that happens, India will forever be subject to the whims of whomever it buys its offensive or defensive weapon systems be it the poisonous Americans or corrupt Russians.

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Postby JE Menon » 26 Sep 2017 10:24

Gents this scumbag's quotes and articles should be taken with bag of salt. The very first paragraph of the article makes it clear that its secondary thrust is a hit-job on Sitharaman. But let's look at the para he has written in detail:

---US officials privately admit to concern over Sitharaman’s reserved presence, which contrasts with Parrikar’s gregariousness. “As a commerce minister she came off as cold and haughty and her lack of confidence caused her to stick to her positions. That effectively stalled the trade dialogue”, opines a senior American industry leader."---

Neither the US officials nor the "senior American industry leader" are named, which these days is something no self-respecting journalist should do. Alternatively, if he or she does it, don't put anything in quotes so we all know that the hard-copy of Back Orifice software was used to wrench it out. But by now we all know that this crapscraper has no self-respect.

Secondly, consider the scenario leading up to this sharticle, which prompts sentence number one in the above para: The scumbag has written emails to various US officials and (at least) a senior American industry leader, telephoned them all (together or separately), or met them personally (together or separately) to construct the above (quotes). It must have been together, otherwise it is hard to imagine how US officials contacted separately all expressed "concern" with Sitharaman's reservedness in comparison to Parrikar's gregariousness. The only other possibility is that this scumbucket actually asked the same leading question such as: "Do you consider Sitharaman or Parrikar more gregarious?" or something equally trivial, and they laughed it off as "Parrikar of course". One also wonders who these US officials who have met both Sitharaman and Parrikar long enough to draw these conclusions are. More likely, it is this shytebag projecting his own political bias knowing a lot of Indians will swallow it because Sitharaman is indeed generally more reserved than Parrikar. But the key word here, remember, is "concern". That is the slimeslick's sleight of word here.

Further, it is highly unlikely that said US officials would get together for a telecon with this presstitute even if he gave them Pyongyang's nuclear codes (in quotes). So it is most likely, if he did it at all and didn't fabricate the whole thing to begin with, that the presstitute sent a few emails at best and I can bet you (unless he discloses them all) that no single US government official will go on or off the record with an Indian journalist (whose trustworthiness they know well by now) describing a serving minister in the Indian government as a source of "concern". This blowhard most likely drew that conclusion himself, based on his very well known political bias and abundant experience in presstitution.

Now let's look at the so-called "senior American industry leader". 99.9% this is a Congresslave NRI with US citizenship or the snake is making it up, or both. In the event that this is not the case, and that it was indeed a senior American industry leader, then most probably it was one whose commercial interests were not served by Sitharaman, whose job is to look after Indian interest and she has done it rather well, with her traditional style of engagement - which is typical of well-settled Indian aunties (from anywhere) whom no one should have the misfortune of facing across the negotiating table. They should simply be thankful that Amma was not the Minister of Commerce. It is interesting though, that our lickspittle lapdog of the HighNC, could just find one industry leader to say something nasty about Sitharaman. Not "senior American industry leaders". But then again, maybe a typo. Even when making shyte up, the crapscraper doesn't get it all.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby Philip » 26 Sep 2017 11:56

The sh*tworm has done us a great favour.Now NS can understand the true mentality of the Yanqui establishment.Unless you kowtow to Uncle Sam,you are an ignoramus,lack confidence,etc.,etc.

What we've seen in the Modi era is that the US wants India to be Uncle Sam's deputy and second rent-boy like Pak in the region. To dutifully go where Uncle Sam dares not or where he has had his tail whupped! Afghanistan.The very mention of the word sends a cold shiver down Yanqui spines. The Yanquis have spent decades in Af.,spent trillions of almighty dollars and dropped sev. times more ordnance than they did in the entire Vietnam War,but the result is still the same.In Vietnam a nation of peasants,rice farmers,whupped the Yanquis backside in style, where they made the most undignified retreat (from Saigon/Vietnam) ever seen in military history. Similarly in the unfinished war in Afghanistan,the Yanquis have taken a horrendous beating from their former Saudi ally one OB Laden,who struck at the very heart of the US.That attack inspired lakhs of the faithful to join the ranks of Al Q and later on ISIS when the Yanqui war in Iraq went south.The reason that they're stuck in Af. is that their fav. rent-boy,the Pakis,are up to their usual duplicitous tricks,supporting the Taliban to control the Afghan drug trade. The CIA and ISI have been fornicating for so long and now resemble each other,that one doesn't know how to distinguish the two! The Afghans too,shepherds and tribals ,in the garb of the Talib with their tribal loyalties and betrayals, have like their Vietnamese peasants burned the backsides of the Yanqui and NATO infidels. None of these nations have learnt anything from history,esp. the British who were dying to have their a*ses rogered as was before in the Afghan Wars of Imperial Britain.

With their NATO allies also crying out "uncle",who can therefore fight America's war? This explains the great seduction of India.As in WW1 and WW2,the West/US want us to fight their messy illegal wars. Millions of Indian troops helped the allies win in both WW1 and WW2. The Yanquis now think that selling us some "beads and trinkets" ,just as they gave the native American "Indians" ,their hope is that we will fall for these (expensive) gifts of wampum and heed the Mad Dog's yowling and run to Afghanistan like loyal lackeys to suffer a similar fate. Only the most idiotic,cretinous and moronic of the Indian political establishment will listen to the Mad Dog,unless there is something in it for them,perhaps a desi version of privatisation of the conflict Blackwater style.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/m ... 752808.ece
Mattis may push for Indian troops in Afghanistan
SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT NEW DELHI , SEPTEMBER 25, 2017

First Cabinet-level visit from Trump administration
U.S. Defence Secretary Jim Mattis landed in India on Monday for his maiden three-day visit, the first by a Cabinet member of the Trump administration.

Officials said the focus was on deepening the defence partnership and expand the high technology cooperation, and among the key focus areas of discussion would be the situation in Afghanistan.

In the light of U.S. President Donald Trump’s renewed engagement in Afghanistan and call for greater Indian role, Mr. Mattis could be expected to push for Indian troops in Afghanistan.

Indian aid to Afghanistan
India has already extended a $3-billion aid to Afghanistan and also provides training to its military and other assistance.
The two sides could also discuss the new Chinese posturing in the region and terrorism originating from Pakistan, officials said.

The Defence Secretary will hold a restricted dialogue with his counterpart Nirmala Sitharaman followed by delegation-level talks on Tuesday. After the talks, the two Ministers would issue press statements.

Later Mr. Mattis will call on Prime Minister Narendra Modi and also meet National Security Advisor Ajit Doval.
The two sides are expected to conclude the formal agreement for holding a bilateral maritime exercise, focused on providing humanitarian assistance and disaster relief.

Defence talks

They are also expected to discuss significant measures under the Major Defence Partner (MDP) status.
They will also review high technology cooperation under the Defence Technology and Trade Initiative (DTTI).
An Indian delegation led by Secretary, Defence Production, who co-chairs the DTTI from India, was in the U.S. recently to prepare the ground.

However, the cooperation is contingent on India signing other foundational agreements especially the Communications Compatibility and Security Agreement (COMCASA).
The U.S. has been pressing for early conclusion of the agreement but India has been cautions. Discussions are under way.

In a statement issued ahead of the visit, the U.S. Department of Defence had said the Secretary would emphasise that the U.S. viewed India as a “valued and influential partner, with broad mutual interests extending well beyond the South Asian region.”

Mr. Mattis would also express American appreciation for India’s important contributions toward Afghanistan’s democracy, stability, prosperity and security, it said.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby krishna_krishna » 26 Sep 2017 17:53

Prem wrote:


The itch is there to intervene in Siachin and Sir creek. This proves beyond doubt that Track Thoo was massa led.

TOILet reports defense minister has said no to troop request for A'stan. In my opinion good step, without UN mandate no need to clear someones mess.

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Postby NRao » 26 Sep 2017 18:24

Interesting take - the entire post.

But, this .......

then most probably it was one whose commercial interests were not served by Sitharaman, whose job is to look after Indian interest and she has done it rather well, with her traditional style of engagement


I had stated this long back. The departure of MP was due to a run between him and PMO/Jaitley. I still stand by that assessment.

What I would like to add now is that MP seemed (for reasons unknown to me) 'side with' TATA, L&T, BF, etc. I am betting that did not sit well with someone within PMO.

NS, I bet, is there to tilt towards Ambani, Armani, etc.

I suggest that the prior group of Indian companies have a US tilt. The latter seem to be in the EU camp.

So, less of "Indian interest" and more of Houses within India interest, IMHO.

If all that is true, then one can easily see the US being uncomfortable. I think this discomfort is prominent in the progress, or lack of it, in DTTI, something MP pushed pretty hard and seems to have fallen since his departure.


The problem - as I see it - is Trump. His total lack of experience in international affairs has placed a huge burden on all relationships, but has hurt the one with India the most. On the positive side I see a good working relationship between Doval and the likes of McMaster.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby CRamS » 26 Sep 2017 18:45

That brief clip on mad dog should be mighty pleasing to TSP RAPE. He does an equal equal and shows that Uncle is pinching India on its bottom to somehow placate TSP.

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Postby Manish_Sharma » 26 Sep 2017 19:41

NRao wrote:
If all that is true, then one can easily see the US being uncomfortable.

Awwwww what can we do to make these compassionate souls comfortable? In wikipedia report Hillary had shouted why pranab is the finance minister? "Why inot money Take singh alluwalia? So sure please usa should order our govt. what will make them comfortable? Modi resigns and parrikar becomes PM?

Waaaah clapping if usa chamcha giri minister isn't placed then its to be blamed in-house industrial fighting.

I think this discomfort is prominent in the progress, or lack of it, in DTTI, something MP pushed pretty hard and seems to have fallen since his departure.

There isn't any discomfort but sheer haraamiPanti of usa. Shri Ulanbatori already referred to GE CEO speech where he referred how he engine mfrg+dvlpt is done in Bharat without any meaningful transfer of tech. ITS A FARCE.
STOP SELLING IT LIKE YOU DID WHEN PARRIKAR SIGNED FIEL EXCHANGE TREATY.

ALREADY ON SE THREAD WE HAVE NEWS ITEMS REFERRING TO HOW UNCOMFORTABLE USA COMPANIES ARE WRT ToT.

It's all a farce we dont owe you americans anything, we will have ministers without giving shit about feelings of usa and it's dalals.

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Postby ShauryaT » 26 Sep 2017 23:25

For the record: I am in support of Indian troops deployment to Afghanistan. It serves India's interests. Outflanks Pakistan and create road links into CA. Also provides fodder to question the Durand line, strengthen Afghanistan-Pashtun Linkage influenced by Indian colors and provide meaningful assistance to Baluchistan. Challenges Pakistan's strategic depth plans. May serve as a challenge to China. Creates linkages to Gilgit and Chitral areas to strengthen our sovereign claims on NA. Will forever change Indian policy as being looked upon as pacifist.

There will be costs. Human and monetary in the short term but is an investment into securing the region, influencing the region, challenging our enemies. The action would pay long term dividends, if sustained and managed.

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Postby Mort Walker » 26 Sep 2017 23:42

The only cost effective way for Indian troops in AfPak is to have US logistics support for fuel, ammo and supplies. No need for India to foot a massive logistics bill.

A quick way to find out if LEMOA is a lemon.

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Postby Cain Marko » 27 Sep 2017 02:20

ShauryaT wrote:For the record: I am in support of Indian troops deployment to Afghanistan. It serves India's interests. Outflanks Pakistan and create road links into CA. Also provides fodder to question the Durand line, strengthen Afghanistan-Pashtun Linkage influenced by Indian colors and provide meaningful assistance to Baluchistan. Challenges Pakistan's strategic depth plans. May serve as a challenge to China. Creates linkages to Gilgit and Chitral areas to strengthen our sovereign claims on NA. Will forever change Indian policy as being looked upon as pacifist.

There will be costs. Human and monetary in the short term but is an investment into securing the region, influencing the region, challenging our enemies. The action would pay long term dividends, if sustained and managed.

This is an interesting thought and should be discussed more thoroughly. I too see some benefits in maintaining deployment in Afg for the reasons mentioned. Fact of the matter is - if India wants to control this situation to any degree, it will have to take some strong actions every now and again. Can't just let others run the show and then complain...

Not sure though what shape this deployment can/should take. also, how to keep such a deployment supplied is another question since all routes are sealed off at present? Mort suggests via US route and LEMOA. Any other possibilities? Is it possible to source some of it locally and use overflights to supply more critical needs?

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these pages have been here before... Indian troops in afghan for Bush 2
what a massive blunder that would have been

Again this would be madness beyond belief why are you guys even contemplating this..
India has enough fronts and you really trust the americans that they are not opening up another front for India

the only way India should send troops is if the ASEs (Anglo Saxon Elites) serve India PoK on a plate for its delectation..

PakChinistan must be cut off and India must have a land route to afghan..
If americans/western interests/ASEs are not prepared to make such an amends for all the damage they have done over the decades they should not be trusted... price should be very high for Indian troops

Otherwise it is their mess leave them to it...

I say again KASHMIR MUST RETURN TO INDIA for Indian troops in afghanistan.

That means bbc/cnn and sundry western shills fully supporting with their propaganda and not a dissenting whimper when operations are taking place.. and NO MORE TALK OF MUSLIM THIS AND THAT

Otherwise americans will leave Indian high and dry in afghanistan and they will be at the mercy of pakchinistan and other India haters.
This would suit ASEs interests just as India is about to move forward on economy etc...

It is a trap with pakchinistan involvement. To prove it is not, chinese should be cut off from the region, otherwise it will be field day for them through sundry pak agents.

Who benefits most from this... it will be americans, they need to provide something in return and that should be PoK as a starter for 10.

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Postby ShauryaT » 27 Sep 2017 02:23

^Chabahar - no US dependence. A wink needed from US that they are OK to do this and bribes to Iran that we do not intend to use the facility against Pakistan, unless Pakistan attacks. Also, by deploying most of the forces in Afghanistan in areas with Hazara and Iranian interests. I would not trust the US and use them initially to milk their resources with the idea that eventually they will walk off. Build Russian/central asian supplies as a backup.

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Postby Cain Marko » 27 Sep 2017 02:28

Avtar Singh wrote:these pages have been here before... Indian troops in afghan for Bush 2
what a massive blunder that would have been

Again this would be madness beyond belief why are you guys even contemplating this..
India has enough fronts and you really trust the americans that they are not opening up another front for India

the only way India should send troops is if the ASEs (Anglo Saxon Elites) serve India PoK on a plate for its delectation..

PakChinistan must be cut off and India must have a land route to afghan..
If americans/western interests/ASEs are not prepared to make such an amends for all the damage they have done over the decades they should not be trusted... price should be very high for Indian troops

Otherwise it is their mess leave them to it...

I say again KASHMIR MUST RETURN TO INDIA for Indian troops in afghanistan.

snip

Who benefits most from this... it will be americans, they need to provide something in return and that should be PoK as a starter for 10.


Fair enough - may be this is an opportunity to wrest back what was lost. Driving a hard bargain is essential but this does not mean that the matter doesn't merit thought/action. "India has enough fronts" - and those fronts will last in perpetuity if India just passively lets these be dictated to it. Kashmir, Northeast, now the Rohingaya nuisance, BD - you name it.

Time to open up a few fronts on its own! Better you call it than play the game as others call it.

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Postby ShauryaT » 27 Sep 2017 02:32

Avtar Singh wrote:Who benefits most from this... it will be americans, they need to provide something in return and that should be PoK as a starter for 10.
The US will never bring in stability to the region. Ever. The Indian Army is the best game around for counter terrorism/insurgency and knows how to stabilize. We have the resources. Can be subsidized through American investments into India to create jobs. Will take some time, money and unfortunately blood but is the best guarantee to circle the region. No one is going to "give" you anything let alone PoK from a nuclear armed country. Ask the question again, who benefits from this most?

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Postby Suresh S » 27 Sep 2017 02:38

Agree with Shauraya but it has to be thought through. We should become proactive not reactive. There will be a heavy price to pay in the long term looking at history and paki perfidy.

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Postby ArjunPandit » 27 Sep 2017 02:56

Suresh S wrote:Agree with Shauraya but it has to be thought through. We should become proactive not reactive. There will be a heavy price to pay in the long term looking at history and paki perfidy.

Agreed, it might have been discussed around Bush 2 era, but much water has flown since. Rise of China as an open enemy as compared to a hidden one.
This needs to be looked back again. Nothing worthwhile is without risk.
Perhaps we should have a separate thread for it

PS:
Noticed there is a separate thread, where i mentioned that this topic has been discussed in past
India in afghanisan

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Postby Cain Marko » 27 Sep 2017 03:06

ShauryaT wrote:^Chabahar - no US dependence. A wink needed from US that they are OK to do this and bribes to Iran that we do not intend to use the facility against Pakistan, unless Pakistan attacks. Also, by deploying most of the forces in Afghanistan in areas with Hazara and Iranian interests. I would not trust the US and use them initially to milk their resources with the idea that eventually they will walk off. Build Russian/central asian supplies as a backup.


So, three supply routes: Iran, US, CAsia? Hmm, wonder if the Russians can be roped into it as well?

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Postby krishna_krishna » 27 Sep 2017 03:47

Given few points given by gurus on this forum on how boots on ground would be beneficial , here are some counter narrative points :

What would be the goal of this so called presence in Afghanistan ?

Some gurus suggest it would be to help contain terroristan and encircle it.
Help us get back POK from terroristan
Help us connect to Central Asia

My argument is none of the above goal require boots on the ground except for connectivity which itself is moot since you do not have direct geographic connection to that land locked country. Till that happens logistics sucks.

Why should we be another Massa pooch and save master from shit they created with precious blood of our soldiers and citizens. Unless afghans(government) requests which none self respecting Afghan would we should not overtly put boots on ground for policing and end up Invaders who will eventually loose and loose all the Goodwill Indians enjoy.

Massa will never leave it's special bases and in long term it is not in India's interest to have Massa base in it's neibourhood.why under someone's flag we put in our services, we go when we want either with our free will or under UN flag not under Massa flag.

Massa wants us to bleed wth another open front and you become another brexit, the moment you land under Massa flag Iranians close chabahar and themselves join talibunnies with porkis and China and even Russia with added Afghan furry towards Invaders,how does that sound ?

This is what I believe we need:

We need presence in Afghanistan for sure and help afghans , that achieved via bigger consulates with SF and Intel operatives in strength to overthrow a country when times comes, with Afghan co-operation. Build connectivity and help rehabilitate pashtuns and encourage pakhtoonistan separation.

Need PoK back using our advantages in siachin and tajakistan,get permanent connectivity to Afghanistan and then destroy terroristan

All these achieved via valor and leadership that is organic and indian lead not Massa blessed. If India wants to be a true super power that is the only hard way without being in any camp.

Times are changing and so is balance of power since wwii, why save colonist vestige or give them any piece of pie when they deserve none and are receding

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Postby BSR Murthy » 27 Sep 2017 06:15

Mort Walker wrote:
So poisonous these americans


Are they any less poisonous than the corrupt Russians and French?

At the end of the day if India wants to be a superpower it must have its own military industrial complex that will be consortium of the IITs, IIS, the many governmental research and development organizations, military public sector production facilities, private industries, and all branches of the services reporting to a MoD type head that is a cabinet level executive. This executive would be a cabinet level minister answerable to parliament.

Until that happens, India will forever be subject to the whims of whomever it buys its offensive or defensive weapon systems be it the poisonous Americans or corrupt Russians.


Hear hear. Well said!

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Postby VishalJ » 27 Sep 2017 11:43

@manupubby https://twitter.com/manupubby/status/912590665313345537 1:42 PM - 26 Sep 2017
Embarrassing monkey menace at Sitharaman-Mattis joint presser. Statements, replies disturbed by occasional loud shrieks in South Block.

Replies: :mrgreen:

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"Bureaucrats come back as monkeys in their next life and hang around" circa 2004


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I used to refer to Sena Bhavan as Vaanar Sena Bhawan when I worked there!


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Now that's not a nice nickname for our finest bureaucrats.


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Was never expected, they would have held discussions.


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Postby VishalJ » 27 Sep 2017 11:51

Manu Pubby @manupubby
https://twitter.com/manupubby/status/912588871954812928

Full statement by @DefenceMinIndia on her meeting with US Def Sec #Mattis

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Full statement by US Def Sec #Mattis after talks with @DefenceMinIndia

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby Philip » 27 Sep 2017 12:53

NS, I bet, is there to tilt towards Ambani, Armani, etc.

NR,will we see the armed forces wearing designer uniforms and NS now being outfitted with Armani designed sarees what? :rotfl:

On a more serious note the "NO" to boots on the ground in Af. is very welcome.
http://indianexpress.com/article/india/ ... n-4862943/
No Indian troops in Afghanistan, says Defence Minister Nirmala Sitharaman
Nirmala Sitharaman also raised the issue of terrorist havens in Pakistan. “The same forces that find havens in Pakistan hit New York and Mumbai. My request is that Secretary Mattis speaks out when he visits Pakistan,” she said
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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby ArjunPandit » 28 Sep 2017 02:35

With every us visit, when we dont sign the deal for any of teens I feel very happy for Tejas!

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby saip » 28 Sep 2017 04:19

So the SecDef uses a forty year old aircraft.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby Mort Walker » 28 Sep 2017 07:53

V J wrote:Image


Looks like the SecDef flies in on his own E-4. I wonder if the E-4 is making a first time official visit to India?

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby Mort Walker » 28 Sep 2017 07:56

saip wrote:So the SecDef uses a forty year old aircraft.


There is nothing in that aircraft which 40 years old. It has been completely overhauled a few times now.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby VishalJ » 28 Sep 2017 10:24

Mort Walker wrote:
V J wrote:Image


Looks like the SecDef flies in on his own E-4. I wonder if the E-4 is making a first time official visit to India?

It's come to India everytime the SecDef has visited Hindustan.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby VishalJ » 28 Sep 2017 10:28

saip wrote:So the SecDef uses a forty year old aircraft.

The only thing 40 year old about it is it's design.
That is perhaps the most technologically advanced 747 on the planet.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_E-4

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby Amber G. » 28 Sep 2017 22:45

Some time ago, Chandrika and Ranjan Tandon (an IIT'an) donated $100 Million Gift to NYU School of Engineering..
Per this news: another Indian American couple is donating $200 Million ,,
Indian-American couple pledges $200 million to transform healthcare in US and India
FORT LAUDERDALE: With a $200 million commitment, an Indian American doctor couple has teamed up with a Florida university to bring world class medical education to India and potentially transform healthcare in the country.
Cardiologist Kiran Patel and his paediatrician wife Pallavi Patel's gift, the Nova Southeastern University (NSU) located in picturesque Fort Lauderdale, near Miami, will open a new campus in Tampa, 400 km away.

In addition to the donation, Patel said that he was committed to spend $200 million by 2019 to set up a 40 hectare campus near Vadodara in Gujarat with Nova willing to expand their operations to India....

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby disha » 28 Sep 2017 23:34

^Is that a gift or a business venture masquerading as gift?

And it is sad that Ranjan Tandon (an IIT'an) donated $100 Million to NYU school of engineering. He could have donated it to 100 ITIs in India., $1 Million each and that would have contributed more to India's future.


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