India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

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Postby SaiK » 16 Sep 2018 01:23

this
India-US partnership are on an upward trajectory.

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Postby SSridhar » 18 Sep 2018 07:55

Commerce Ministry wants further delay in tit-for-tat tariffs against US - Amit Sen, Business Line
The Centre is likely to further postpone the implementation of retaliatory tariffs against the US, which had been proposed in response to the ‘wrongful’ application of discriminatory duties by the latter on steel and aluminium exports from India.

“The Commerce Ministry is planning to ask the Revenue Department to come up with a notification delaying the duties for some time,” a government official told BusinessLine.

If the implementation of retaliatory tariffs — worth an estimated annual $241 million against 29 products exported from the US to India — gets deferred again, it will be the second postponement after the duties were announced on June 20 this year with an implementation date of August 4.

On August 3, the Revenue Department had issued a notification delaying the duties by 45 days. “The idea behind the proposed delay this time is to give trade officials from both sides yet more time to sort out the issue of higher tariffs of 25 per cent on steel and 10 per cent on aluminium imposed by the US on exports from India. New Delhi wants to avoid getting into a tariff war with Washington to whatever extent possible,” the official said.

The higher tariffs on steel and aluminium imports were applied by the US earlier this year on a handful of countries including India, China, Japan, South Korea, Canada, the EU, Turkey and Russia citing security concerns.

New Delhi, which has also taken up the matter with the WTO, has been arguing that the higher duties imposed are unfair as India’s exports of these items were much lower than others such as China and South Korea, and it doesn’t pose a security threat to the US.

Interestingly, a number of countries including China, the EU, Turkey, Canada and Mexico have already imposed retaliatory tariffs against goods imported from the US.

India has time till Tuesday to decide either way. “The Commerce Ministry has time till Tuesday to convince the Revenue Department to come up with a new notification with a fresh date for implementation of the retaliatory duties. We are hopeful of attaining our objective,” the official said.

Pact elusive

The teams from the Commerce Ministry and the US Trade Representative’s office, however, are nowhere near sorting out the issue of penal tariffs on aluminium and steel. “India is continuing to insist that the ideal solution is the complete rollback of the additional duties, but the US is not ready to consider it,” the official said.

The talks are still on
with both sides hopeful of reaching a mutually acceptable decision soon, he added.

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Postby vimal » 18 Sep 2018 09:03

I don't understand the weak-kneed response from India wrt to these tarrifs. Again proves India is a soft state.

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Postby habal » 18 Sep 2018 09:12

The reason why India is delaying reciprocatory tariffs is because GoI wants to tell USA that it considers it as it's friend (friendlier than even canada under trudeau which wasted just no time to impose reciprocatory tariffs) and will take this step only as a last resort. This is all realpolitik and nothing to do with softness of India. Yes, India does have a problem tackling any issue which can have repurcussions because risk-taking ability is near to zero. But atleast in this case, that is not the issue.

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Postby vera_k » 19 Sep 2018 06:08

^
Or India has concluded that unilateral liberal trade policies serve it well.

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Postby Neshant » 19 Sep 2018 10:48

India will never break its long term friendship with Russia.

Its simply not in the nature of India to short change its friends no matter how weak those friends may get.

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US-Indian Relations: Trump Gets A Unique Partner For America First

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09- ... rica-first

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Postby JE Menon » 19 Sep 2018 13:41

^^This sharticle is by MK Bhadrakumar...

The only thing that surprises me is how he managed to weasel & slither his way into zerohedge.

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Postby chola » 20 Sep 2018 01:08

I tell you, we need to start planning for the day where Cheen capitulates across the board and falls inline as number 2.

This is power in every sense of the word.

Holding on to these relations with Russia and Iran are losing propositions that gains us nothing.

The US doesn’t need India or anyone else to deal with Cheen. It wields more than enough power by a very comfortable margin.

https://swarajyamag.com/world/in-trade-war-us-trumps-china-and-a-lesson-in-it-for-india

In Trade War, US Trumps China – And A Lesson In It For India

by Naagesh Padmanabhan
Sep 19, 2018, 4:16 pm


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As regards the sustainability of the trade war, it is anybody’s guess as to how long this will last before a diplomatic resolution is negotiated. But given the asymmetry in trade – China exports over $200 billion compared to $80 billion of imports from the US – it is more vulnerable and will cave in sooner than later. China’s defiance is ill-advised and amounts to a harakiri. Delay in arriving at a negotiated settlement will be a punishing setback for China and will undo decades of economic progress.

It must be mentioned here that international trade as we understand it today is built on the twin pillars of economic pre-eminence and military might. These two pillars are then artfully packaged and deployed using sophisticated diplomacy to gain maximum commercial and economic advantage. Countries endowed with both qualities emerge leaders and winners. That is the winning formula, and all nations understand this very well. But for China to pretend it is on the same footing as the US is indeed churlish.

...

The ongoing trade war between the US and its major trading partners has powerful lessons for India. India is caught between the US on one side and some of its own major trading partners – Russia, China, and Iran – on the other.

How India manages to successfully manoeuvre its way around these treacherous waters of international sanctions will determine, to a large extent, the survival and long-term growth of India. But it certainly cannot adopt a confrontationist approach vis-à-vis the US. A collaborative approach will take it places, literally. Prime Minister Narendra Modi seems to be on the right track.


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Postby Rudradev » 20 Sep 2018 02:23

Cheen will not capitulate.

Over the last 15 or so (but ESPECIALLY the last 5) years, Cheen has developed a narrative of itself as THE new rising global superpower destined to knock the US off its pedestal. This is integral to their sense of nationhood by now.

How true or accurate that narrative might be is not the issue. The issue is that they believe it, institutionally, across all their academicians and think-tanks and National State Councils and Politburos and Standing Committees (not to mention armed forces). It has become absolute orthodoxy... just as Ghazwa-e-Hind, Kore Issue etc. are unalterable (if unrealistic) Pakistani orthodoxies. Nobody in the Chinese power structure can suggest caving in to the US and be seen as rejecting this orthodoxy, because it would be political (and perhaps literal) suicide. The last leader in Cheen who could command such an introspective review-and-reset of standing CPC narratives was Deng Xiaoping, who quietly assumed power following the trauma and chaos after Mao's death and the gang-of-four putsch... no comparable situation obtains now, and no one is going to take the kind of risks Deng did to suggest something as institutionally blasphemous as capitulating to the US.

Cheeni corporate honchos are not happy, but are buckling in for what they expect to be a very long trade war with America (Jack Ma estimates 20 years!) They aren't like US corporations who can lobby the GOTUS to change policies contrary to their interests. They know fully well that their wealth and position has always depended on outright patronage by the CPC, and that there's no question of challenging the CPC.

Their fightback is actually on K street via lobbyists-- and in the US news cycle via their friends in US academia and media batting for them, producing propaganda that leveragesTrump's overall unpopularity to suggest that his trade war is doomed to failure.

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Postby ramana » 20 Sep 2018 04:19

Cheen has not studied Ackerman on 'Evolution of Cooperation"

Tit for tat will not get cooperation. It has to be random and asymmetric.
This tit for tat will lead to just futile brutus fulmen
Like India Pak border fire.

The charade stopped after surgical strike.

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Postby ramana » 20 Sep 2018 04:20

The SC verdict on bogus ISRO spy case is revealing a lot about US meddling in cryogenic engine transfer of technology.

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Postby Cain Marko » 20 Sep 2018 06:35

Rudradev wrote:Cheen will not capitulate.

Over the last 15 or so (but ESPECIALLY the last 5) years, Cheen has developed a narrative of itself as THE new rising global superpower destined to knock the US off its pedestal. This is integral to their sense of nationhood by now.

How true or accurate that narrative might be is not the issue. The issue is that they believe it, institutionally, across all their academicians and think-tanks and National State Councils and Politburos and Standing Committees (not to mention armed forces). It has become absolute orthodoxy... just as Ghazwa-e-Hind, Kore Issue etc. are unalterable (if unrealistic) Pakistani orthodoxies. Nobody in the Chinese power structure can suggest caving in to the US and be seen as rejecting this orthodoxy, because it would be political (and perhaps literal) suicide. The last leader in Cheen who could command such an introspective review-and-reset of standing CPC narratives was Deng Xiaoping, who quietly assumed power following the trauma and chaos after Mao's death and the gang-of-four putsch... no comparable situation obtains now, and no one is going to take the kind of risks Deng did to suggest something as institutionally blasphemous as capitulating to the US.

Cheeni corporate honchos are not happy, but are buckling in for what they expect to be a very long trade war with America (Jack Ma estimates 20 years!) They aren't like US corporations who can lobby the GOTUS to change policies contrary to their interests. They know fully well that their wealth and position has always depended on outright patronage by the CPC, and that there's no question of challenging the CPC.

Their fightback is actually on K street via lobbyists-- and in the US news cycle via their friends in US academia and media batting for them, producing propaganda that leveragesTrump's overall unpopularity to suggest that his trade war is doomed to failure.


Wonder if china will be fueled into considering war as an extension of economic policy. ..try to embroil the us in expensive proxy wars that cost much in terms of money and image, while it plays the rOle of enlightened economy that offers peace prosperity etc...

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Postby Deans » 20 Sep 2018 14:34

Cain Marko wrote:Wonder if china will be fueled into considering war as an extension of economic policy. ..try to embroil the us in expensive proxy wars that cost much in terms of money and image, while it plays the rOle of enlightened economy that offers peace prosperity etc...


Unfortunately, Trump has got the US into war with everyone - no external encouragement needed. He needs allies to take on China, but has antagonsed the EU, UK, Canada & Russia. However, China is more vulnerable to US pressure in the following areas - where China cannot retaliate

- Increase tension in the south China sea, by aggressive patrolling in areas claimed by China
- OBOR : Encourage countries not to repay Chinese loans and propagate negative publicity.
- Financial markets - China is extremely vulnerable. Stocks can crash if the underlying firms are denied US market access.That has a domino effect.
- Oil prices.
- Human right in Xinjiang.

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Postby chola » 20 Sep 2018 14:47

Deans wrote:
Cain Marko wrote:Wonder if china will be fueled into considering war as an extension of economic policy. ..try to embroil the us in expensive proxy wars that cost much in terms of money and image, while it plays the rOle of enlightened economy that offers peace prosperity etc...


Unfortunately, Trump has got the US into war with everyone - no external encouragement needed. He needs allies to take on China, but has antagonsed the EU, UK, Canada & Russia. However, China is more vulnerable to US pressure in the following areas - where China cannot retaliate

- Increase tension in the south China sea, by aggressive patrolling in areas claimed by China
- OBOR : Encourage countries not to repay Chinese loans and propagate negative publicity.
- Financial markets - China is extremely vulnerable. Stocks can crash if the underlying firms are denied US market access.That has a domino effect.
- Oil prices.
- Human right in Xinjiang.


No, other nations might be self-servingly be assuming that the US needs anyone else to “help” it deal with Cheen. Trump is showing them that the US does not.

In order to form a coalition, the US would need to give out a whole set of quid pro quos — “we’ll lose access to chini market so you amreekis must give us more access to yours.” Japan, SoKo, Germany, Oz , etc. all export a lot of chit to Cheen. They are also a bunch of mercantile SOBs of a stature barely less than cheen itself.

Trump has already put his foot down that the allies can’t play this game. This stamp of authority will become more important in the future as this trade war plays out when American firms are shut out of the chini market and the allies are thinking of replacing the US in the chinese market and gaining a major advantage globally. (Strategically, a MNC from Japan who can sell to both China and the US would have a major, perhaps overwhelming, advantage over MNCs from the US or China who cannot sell to one of the two.)

Making them “allies” in this particular economic fight gives them too much leverage. The US already learned that lesson the hard way with the amreeki car market being overrun with Japanese, Korean and German brands.

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Postby Supratik » 20 Sep 2018 23:04

According to latest 2017 demographic estimates, Indian Americans are now the second largest asian group overtaking Philipino Americans.

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Postby ramana » 21 Sep 2018 01:02

pratik, Can you give the link and numbers please ASAP?

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Postby Supratik » 21 Sep 2018 14:46

Ramana, it is 4.4 million. I am not sure if the numbers are single race or multiple races. I would assume it is the latter as the numbers given by MEA for 2017 is lower. There will be another 1.5 million who are still Indian citizens.

https://factfinder.census.gov/faces/tab ... Type=table

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Postby Paul » 21 Sep 2018 15:31

If numbers go higher they will borrow from the CongI playbook and start splitting Indians into Caste,language and religion.

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Postby vijayk » 21 Sep 2018 20:25

They already started the game. The attacks on Tulsi Gabbard by Dem scums and attacks on HAC meeting, many attacks by Indian American Dems on Hindus/RSS/Hinduism/VHP demonstrate their next strategy.

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Postby krisna » 22 Sep 2018 20:36

Paul wrote:If numbers go higher they will borrow from the CongI playbook and start splitting Indians into Caste,language and religion.


I believe they tried in UK about caste and making it liable for persecution as like slavery etc.
But Hindu groups fought off the challenge.
Not surprisingly it was done by a british mp who was a former christian pastor.
Govt quickly steamrolled thru this without much disucssion. but many Hindus opposed it. Govt or some committe went on fact finding and found no evidence of discrimination amongst Hindus wrt caste.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-ne ... hxZOO.html

The organisations which supported are some of these like CasteWatch UK, Dalit Solidarity Network UK, Voice of Dalit International, Federation of Ambedkarite Buddhist Organisations UK, Central Valmik Sabha UK, Indian Christian Concern and Dr Ambedkar Memorial Committee GB--- all known fronts of christian evangelical ngos and some muslim ngos are also in it.
many of them are Indians converted or leftists. Both sides of the parties supported it.



Good saving grace is democracy in reverse-- many Hindus individually and Hindu groups opposed it.


Not surprisingly the major news did not highlight it as expected or they just made it some news with some news byte. if it was clear about even single caste discrimination then it would have made major headlines all over world.

USA christian groups would have increased the clamour for caste persecution in usa.

This also shows that caste was majorly a colonisation efforts.
virtually all castes were codified into census by british during their efforts to damage India socially.
by 1921(starting from 1850s when they started to do this project) virtually all Indians were divided and became aware of the caste as a birthright identity.

Caste has grown faster than population since british census showing that it was creation of british/Indian ruling dispensation worsened with political dynamics and not perse Hindu as a religion.


curiously there are no major caste problems in all countries where Hindus reside. Esp so who were there before the british census project. If it was Hindu religion responsible then it would be uniform all over the world wherever Hindus reside.



**** just like Shashi Tharoor documented the ills of british colonisation-- some Indian author should document the census and talk wrt caste prevalent then and later post british project. Dharmapal has documented some of it by checking the britihs archives

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Postby A_Gupta » 25 Sep 2018 23:01

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... nd=premium
India Is Cutting Imports of Iranian Oil to Zero in November
By Debjit Chakraborty
, Dhwani Pandya
, and Javier Blas
September 25, 2018, 12:43 PM EDT

Biggest Indian refiners haven’t asked for November oil cargoes

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India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby Peregrine » 27 Sep 2018 00:43

China 'doesn't want me to win' upcoming elections: Donald Trump

UNITED NATIONS: US President Donald Trump accused China on Wednesday of working against his Republican Party in upcoming midterm polls, saying Beijing wanted to see him suffer an electoral blow because of his hard line on trade.

"Regrettably we found that China has been attempting to interfere in our upcoming 2018 election coming up in November against my administration," Trump said in a session of the United Nations Security Council.

"They do not want me or us to win because I am the first president ever to challenge China on trade."

Trump did not go into details about how he believed China was interfering in the midterms which could see the Republicans lose control of both the Senate and House of Representatives.

But his allegation comes as trade tensions soar between Beijing and Washington, which this week enacted new tariffs against China covering another $200 billion of its imports.

The United States also irked China earlier this week by going ahead with plans to sell a batch of military parts to the self-governing island of Taiwan.

Beijing sees Taiwan as part of its territory awaiting unification, and is deeply suspicious of the island's relations with the US.

A special prosecutor, Robert Mueller, is investigating allegations that members of Trump's inner circle colluded with Russia to secure his victory in the 2016 presidential election after US security agencies determined that Moscow had sought to influence the outcome.

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Postby g.sarkar » 27 Sep 2018 11:36

Paul wrote:If numbers go higher they will borrow from the CongI playbook and start splitting Indians into Caste,language and religion.

No Sir. Common Khan is poor in understanding such Indian things. In my opinion they will try to reduce the number of Indians becoming citizens, or green card holders, family reunification will be reduced too. The screw will be tightened within the legal frame work. Work is already going on this direction: mainly to encourage Indians to leave. Indians are taking up the top jobs such as Doctors, Engineers, Venture capitalists and University educators. This is not going unnoticed. These are work that was supposed to go to the majority community, and are not the type of low end jobs taken up by the Hispanic community. They would naturally prefer to get White Europeans to immigrate and take these high end jobs. Unfortunately, this is not 1945, not too many Europeans are willing to come. The local high school education is poor in the US. So, the chances of these jobs being filled by the natives are poor too. As the economy is booming, unfilled vacancies for such high end jobs will grow too.
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Postby ramana » 27 Sep 2018 19:40

I spent a couple of weeks in Italy. I noticed not much awe of US. And resentment at $ domination.
I think Europe has had enough of wars and domination kool aid.
they just want a happy life.
Especially the Mediterraneans.

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Postby g.sarkar » 27 Sep 2018 20:03

Ramanaji,
The feeling is the same in Germany. I was there for three weeks in August. The current refugee problem is seen there as some thing created by US actions. Germans want to keep their standard of living that they have achieved. Trump and the US is seen as the cause of many problems that they are facing right now. Being flooded by refugees, facing tariffs and being lectured on NATO is not popular.
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Postby vera_k » 27 Sep 2018 20:39

g.sarkar wrote:In my opinion they will try to reduce the number of Indians becoming citizens, or green card holders, family reunification will be reduced too.


Can We Have a Sensible Immigration Policy?

"Chain migration" needs to be reconsidered. The New York Times recently told the story of Jagdish Patel, an engineer who immigrated to the U.S. from India....As of last count, more than 90 people have become citizens off the entry of one immigrant.


Of course, there is plenty of support for such a "reconsideration" from the H/L tech arrivals.

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Postby vimal » 27 Sep 2018 20:53

I don't understand how an immigrant can sponsor visas for his brothers and sisters. I thought that you can only sponsor your parents, spouse and children.

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Postby vera_k » 27 Sep 2018 21:10

^ Brothers and sisters are allowed under current law. Long wait times, but otherwise allowed.

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Postby UlanBatori » 27 Sep 2018 21:12

A citjen can (or could until recently). That IS how lots of bijnej ppl and others came into Yoo Ess from Oirope, Pakistan etc. This "tech" immigration thing is limited to a very few countries, which is why the CIS plays games with that.

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Postby ramana » 27 Sep 2018 22:23

vimal wrote:I don't understand how an immigrant can sponsor visas for his brothers and sisters. I thought that you can only sponsor your parents, spouse and children.



The immigrant visa have preferences or categories for the family migration.
Spouse and children are first preference.
Parents are second preference.
Brothers and sisters are sixth preference and due to low quota the wait time is in decades now.

But same time I have heard of whole villages being brought in as relatives and used to run restaurants in Bay Area.

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Postby UlanBatori » 27 Sep 2018 22:47

If you look at geometric progression in factors of, say, 4 per person, the numbers multiply quickly. The use of the Patel name is sheer racism: I bet the situation is far worse with, say, Smith or Schmitt or Wozniak or Feinstein. Not 2 mention Abdullah.

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Postby Mort Walker » 28 Sep 2018 22:01

The Economic Times is saying Trump looks forward to visiting India. When is not clear. Hopefully Republic Day.

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Postby mappunni » 28 Sep 2018 22:41

Actually, my sister and my brother-in-laws all came over to the US based on the brothers and sisters category. The waiting time is approximately about 12 plus years.

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Postby disha » 28 Sep 2018 23:08

Even though Indians crib at chain migration ending or running into decades., think of how it currently benefits somebody with hum-panch-aur-hamare-pachees (us-five-and-our-twenty-five) category. That also needs to end. On the flip side, it is better to be qualified as dreamer. And non-latinos cannot dream.

All US admins including Ombaba did not do anything on granting GC for H1-B workers. It would have been better overall if students to US univ -> H1B -> faster GC is fast-tracked followed by parental and dependent migration and rest of chain migration minimized. Also country wide quota has to go at the end of the year.

Is the immigration policy racist? Yes. Is it racist due to current admin? No. It was racist all along and even liberandu paragon of open borders Ombaba did not fix it.

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Postby krishna_krishna » 29 Sep 2018 06:34

ramana wrote:
But same time I have heard of whole villages being brought in as relatives and used to run restaurants in Bay Area.


Ramana garu, I just want to point out that two third of legal immigration into US is through family based categories. SDRE's are not the only group that benefitted. Look at latinos/hispanics and even yahudi, porkis and Bangladeshis . I was just had discussion with friends on this and based on number of population statistics and projections this aim is to limit hispanics/latinos as they are the number one benefactors in the family category and they are growing faster than people like.

The reason why you do not see a push to people that come on employment based category (any of them, doesn't matter which adminsitration) to naturalize or immigrate easy is that deep state knows that they are smart, talented and young. If numbers increase game is up, it would be complete domination. The mediocre protected by current system (reservation in a way) will be out in open. With family based system everyone can come but again the numbers do not suggest big proportion of them are either that much talented or go to climb big ladders. It is always talented individuals (top educated/experienced ) who immigrate mostly through student/employment/investor route.

I believe eventually the top spot will be lost by the US. Either the quality have to be improved or this system is not sustainable in long run if they wish to control the spot where they want to land to . JMT

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Postby g.sarkar » 29 Sep 2018 15:03

mappunni wrote:Actually, my sister and my brother-in-laws all came over to the US based on the brothers and sisters category. The waiting time is approximately about 12 plus years.

I know a number of people that have brought their brothers and sisters in this way. But what is the benefit of waiting 10-15 years? It is too late for a man to start anew at that age. But green cards are not given to one person, the whole family gets it. So, he gets to bring all of his minor children, who can then get a good education here and get a good job. This works for Indians, who look for the long time benefit of his children. It is less effective for Europeans.
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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby g.sarkar » 29 Sep 2018 15:07

http://www.india.com/news/india/number- ... r-3353956/
Indians Entering US Illegally Triples in Last Three Years
September 29, 2018 By India.com News DeskEmail
New Delhi: The US Customs and Border Protection (CBP) said on Friday said that the number of Indians arrested for entering the country had tripled this year. CBP spokesman Salvador Zamora said that a large number of Indians were allegedly crossing the US-Mexico border and claiming asylum for persecution.
Amount ranging between USD 25,000 to USD 50,000 per person is paid to the smuggling rings, said the US CBP. As per media reports, Zamora said that a large number of economic migrants with fraudulent petitions may keep away.
Meanwhile, the Indian embassy in Washington and the Indian consulate in San Francisco did not respond. Around 4,000 Indians who entered the United States illegally this year, did so over a three-mile stretch of border fence at Mexicali. “The word got out that Mexicali is a safe border city which favours their crossing into the United States,” Zamora said.
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Added later: Krishnaji, you are only half right. Indians with great education and experience have it easier. But what about motels of Patels? Hard work by generations of Patels have made them rich. I saw some Sardarjis in Jackson Heights who started as dishwashers, now own stores. Many Indians are willing to work hours in bad conditions for years to save and send it home and/or invest in businesses here. And their children do not need role models. They fit right into ivy league schools. They reach top positions a generation behind those who come with elite education.
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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby Supratik » 29 Sep 2018 15:20

Indians unlike Latinos or Pakis/Bdeshis, etc compete directly with the white majority. That is the crux of the problem. Otherwise sensible policy will make it easier for skilled migrants (Indians/Chinese) to migrate instead of unskilled ones.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby UlanBatori » 30 Sep 2018 07:34

In your opinion, at what point does net migration go the other way, i.e., US to India?

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby Rudradev » 30 Sep 2018 13:24

UlanBatori wrote:In your opinion, at what point does net migration go the other way, i.e., US to India?

When almost all Americans become Hindus (inevitably) at some future point. Many will find the compulsion to see Harry Dwar with their own eyes overwhelming.


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