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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 28 Feb 2020 00:08
by KJo
Vayutuvan wrote:
UlanBatori wrote:She went to Georgetown but bought her degree from UPenn?

Yes, good catch. Wharton, Haavaad, etc. have seats set aside for business family nanha munna.


Yes, even our Ambani ke bacche (Mukes and Anil) went to Stenfud and Whartun for Yem Bee Yay. I bet their grades or GMAT score never figured in the equation.
And Nadar's saab's beti went to Kellogg for MBA and is now CEO.

It's all fixed.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 28 Feb 2020 00:21
by Manish_Sharma
mahadevbhu wrote:


I would like to see
1. A US MMRCA -- Chini folks don't like it when they see US arms being sold to India.

2. More "strategic" deals - nuclear engine designs for subs.




Also in case we have a Dem president like Bernie Sanders OR Chelsea Clinton THEN THROUGH SANCTIONS THEY CAN cripple IAF easily, may force us to submit to porkis

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 28 Feb 2020 00:51
by Rishi_Tri
Pakistan to buy Chinese attack helicopters if Turkey and US fail to deliver

Gareth Jennings, London - Jane's Defence Weekly

https://www.janes.com/article/94566/pak ... to-deliver

In January 2016 it was announced that Bell had been awarded a contract for 12 AH-1Zs, and in April 2017 Jane's reported that the first three of 12 would be delivered in mid‐2017, with a second order to follow. However, the aircraft were yet to be delivered, and while there has been no official statement concerning reasons for delay it is understood to result from the current strained Pakistan-US relations.

Does it mean that among other things, Indian buy of Apaches is convincing US to refrain from similar sales to Pakistan?

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 28 Feb 2020 02:50
by KJo
This clown must never become POTUS.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 350563.cms

Sanders tweeted on Wednesday, “Over 200 million Muslims call India home. Widespread anti-Muslim mob violence has killed at least 27 and injured many more. Trump responds by saying, ‘That’s up to India’. This is a failure of leadership on human rights.”

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 28 Feb 2020 05:55
by Rudradev
OmkarC wrote:
Manish_Sharma wrote:
Hopefully Trump wins again. In case Dems like Bernie, Biden or Clinton wins.... they will create big trouble



Buttigieg has been neutral in the Indo-Pak discussion AFAIK, unlike Bernie, Biden or Warren..



https://twitter.com/petebuttigieg/statu ... 81?lang=en

Pete Buttigieg
@PeteButtigieg
India is an important friend and partner of the United States, which is why I’m concerned about the ongoing political detentions, communications blackouts, and other steps being taken by the government that could threaten its longstanding democratic traditions.


:roll:

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 28 Feb 2020 06:05
by nachiket
All Dem candidates have to satisfy the woke crowd's tests of purity to differing extents from Bernie at one end (maximum wokeness) to Bloomberg (lowest). So their statements about India/Modi govt. (fascist!!) and Muslims (innocent victims of a pogrom!!!) will be as per their position in the woke hierarchy and their intentions to climb that hierarchy in some cases.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 28 Feb 2020 08:08
by Mort Walker
KJo wrote:This clown must never become POTUS.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 350563.cms

Sanders tweeted on Wednesday, “Over 200 million Muslims call India home. Widespread anti-Muslim mob violence has killed at least 27 and injured many more. Trump responds by saying, ‘That’s up to India’. This is a failure of leadership on human rights.”


Actually, any of the donkeystanis would be bad all around. They must be soundly defeated. Turds like these deserved to be flushed.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 28 Feb 2020 08:43
by Philip
Sanders is the US's " last Socialist", who would like a return to the equiv. of the USSR lifestyle ,where everyone got a job,free education,holidays ,at state expense, but based upon an economy that couldn't support the state welfare schemes.Even Russia has abandoned that style of Communism and while former E.Germans are nostalgic about those days,Sander's socialist medicine will be defeated come Nov. even if he wins the Demo's nod.

As for his comments about India,while we object to his statements,we too must keep our house in order to avoid having to combat firangis diplomatically as well.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 28 Feb 2020 08:49
by UlanBatori
I listened to him in last two donkey debates and must agree. He is no more real "socialist" than I am. He is as cynical as they come, in pandering to the worst la-la-land dreams of losers. Blatant hatred towards anyone who works hard and makes money (oh, yeah, he became a Senator without any hard work or money, and now earns only 0.25M a year + free infinite medical care..) As stinky an oiseule as they come. **TOTALLY*** fraudulent.

Butt-e-gieg is slimy- u don't become Rhodes Scholar w/o that. I think he is going to win South Carolina, but Sanders train may run through Super Tuesdin. Warren **may** win in Pennsylvania, but the others are finis, I think.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 28 Feb 2020 09:15
by Rishi_Tri
Indian Ambassador to Qatar shall be present at the US Taliban Accord Signing in Doha.

The following captures some of the events linked to India vis-a-vis USA-Afghanistan and India's presence.

https://in.news.yahoo.com/shift-geopoli ... 45116.html

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 28 Feb 2020 09:19
by Rishi_Tri
KJo wrote:This clown must never become POTUS.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 350563.cms

Sanders tweeted on Wednesday, “Over 200 million Muslims call India home. Widespread anti-Muslim mob violence has killed at least 27 and injured many more. Trump responds by saying, ‘That’s up to India’. This is a failure of leadership on human rights.”


He will never. Among others, his best friend is Ilhan Omar (his education loan bill co-author) and the current POTUS shall roast him for that.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 28 Feb 2020 12:12
by mappunni
DemoCraps have Zero, Nada, Zilch No chance of getting elected.

None of the DemoCrapical clowns are electable! End of conversation.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 28 Feb 2020 16:44
by Bart S
^This is what people said of Trump last time around. Don't take anything for granted.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 28 Feb 2020 18:59
by mahadevbhu
Manish_Sharma wrote:
mahadevbhu wrote:


I would like to see
1. A US MMRCA -- Chini folks don't like it when they see US arms being sold to India.

2. More "strategic" deals - nuclear engine designs for subs.




Also in case we have a Dem president like Bernie Sanders OR Chelsea Clinton THEN THROUGH SANCTIONS THEY CAN cripple IAF easily, may force us to submit to porkis



But by American arms and the cutting edge of IAF being somewhat American, one signals to the Chinese, our main rivals - that India now is similar as is South Korea or Japan or Taiwan - a strong neighbour who is also caging the Panda in a cage of steel.

When your neighbour strongly believes in Shadow-Play, as the Chinese do, then better engage them with some Shadow's of our own.

I have Chinese friends - and used to have good strategic discussions with them - they were frankly horrified that India could get American arms and ammo. The JSF in particular.

That's the reason to get American arms and ammo. Nothing says war-fighting capability like 700 billion USD spent annually and nothing says that one is serious about one's political objectives, than getting into that supply chain.

I want India to be part of the biggest arms supply chain in the world, the US one.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 28 Feb 2020 21:22
by schinnas
I want India to build its own supply chain. There is no point in bankrupting Indian economy by funding the bloated MIC of US with overpriced hardware without ToT.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 28 Feb 2020 22:35
by mappunni
Bart S wrote:^This is what people said of Trump last time around. Don't take anything for granted.


From the ground, the report says that it's impossible for DemoCraps. Friends in Ohio suggest another cakewalk for the Republicans and Ohio is considered the bellwether state!

Just waiting for the Presidential debates for the DemoCraps to look like deer in headlights.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 29 Feb 2020 02:49
by Rudradev
Rudradev wrote:ALERT: Need some support on a New York Magazine forums discussion. You can log in with a Facebook or Google ID to participate.

LINK: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/02 ... l#comments

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 29 Feb 2020 02:51
by Suraj
India stands to gain most from supply-chain disruptions, FDI pipeline doubles to $175 billion: UBS
India is expected to be a big beneficiary of the ongoing trade battle between US and China. Evidence of this trend is already visible from foreign direct investment (FDI) pipeline doubling to $175 billion from last year’s $87 billion. Given the rise in protectionism and tariff barriers, corporations are looking at shifting supply chains . UBS, the world’s largest wealth manager, in its US CFO survey found that 76% of the respondents have either shifted their supply chain or are planning to shift in response to protectionist policies such as trade tariffs and India continues to be among the top destinations in Asia for manufacturing shift.

While FDI in India has increased in the last one year, there has been interest from global companies to set up manufacturing facilities for not only electronics but also heavy manufacturing as well. India’s current FDI pipeline has doubled and key focus sectors include construction, electronics, infrastructure, textiles, food processing, pharma among others. Even while analyzing the earnings transcripts of 44 global companies there has been increased references to ‘India’ and ‘trade war’ and spot nuances in language signify a potential relocation of manufacturing to India.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 29 Feb 2020 08:29
by Mort Walker
Another US Donkeystani Senator puts his foot in the mouth.

Menendez hits Trump over response to Delhi riots

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 29 Feb 2020 08:32
by mahadevbhu
Fantastic news Suraj ji. Trumps presidency is the best thing that has happened to India.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 29 Feb 2020 20:41
by pankajs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BVEQUXCCAc
NSC 74 | President Trump Visits India – Trade, Politics and Regional Security

Wire.com -- Dr Happymon Jacob speaks with Jeff M. Smith


Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 01 Mar 2020 00:28
by nam
Trump babu is still in India... :rotfl:

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 01 Mar 2020 02:05
by mappunni
That's the President addressing a rally in South Carolina.

https://youtu.be/Wd-8LpKiGGo

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 01 Mar 2020 07:32
by Mort Walker
Can we quit talking about the F-35? Move it to the MRCA thread in the Mil Forum.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 01 Mar 2020 07:35
by Mort Walker
mappunni wrote:That's the President addressing a rally in South Carolina.

https://youtu.be/Wd-8LpKiGGo



It is so REFRESHING to see the truth rather than the poisonous lies of the WaPo, NYT, The Hill, Salon and other fake news media.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 02 Mar 2020 01:19
by mappunni
Not sure how relevant is this admins please post in the relevant thread.

Elliott Management’s Paul Singer seeks to replace Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey, source says


https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/28/elliot-managements-paul-singer-seeks-to-replace-twitter-ceo-jack-dorsey-source-says.html

Hopefully with this goes one Jihadi loving leftist scum. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 02 Mar 2020 18:27
by Mukesh.Kumar
Pete Buttigieg drops out of Democratic race for White House- BBC

Pete Buttigieg, the former Indiana mayor who made an ambitious run for president, has announced he is ending his campaign for the White House.

The 38-year-old became the first openly gay presidential candidate from a major party when he announced he was running for the Democratic nomination.

But despite a successful start, his campaign lost momentum in recent weeks.

His decision to drop out comes ahead of a key day on Tuesday in the Democratic race to take on Trump.

Fourteen states will vote on Super Tuesday, by the end of which staunch left-winger Bernie Sanders could have an unbeatable lead and be a step closer to the nomination.

His departure leaves six Democrats still in the running - Joe Biden, Mr Sanders, Michael Bloomberg, Elizabeth Warren, Amy Klobuchar and Tulsi Gabbard.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 03 Mar 2020 14:46
by Yagnasri
Now Biden and DT may be the race. DMC bent on keeping Burnee out at any cost so they have selected Biden. Pete and Amy bibi have withdrawn. Warren will keep in the race to ensure Burnee do not get out sight majority to win in the first round at the convention and Super Delegates will have their chance in the second round. NC has not done yet. It will have new rulers and ideas to keep Burnee out.

Biden unlikely to be powerful candidate who can take on DT and win.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 03 Mar 2020 15:12
by Aditya_V
Yagnasri wrote:Now Biden and DT may be the race. DMC bent on keeping Burnee out at any cost so they have selected Biden. Pete and Amy bibi have withdrawn. Warren will keep in the race to ensure Burnee do not get out sight majority to win in the first round at the convention and Super Delegates will have their chance in the second round. NC has not done yet. It will have new rulers and ideas to keep Burnee out.

Biden unlikely to be powerful candidate who can take on DT and win.


He was always the DNC candidate thats why they pushed for impeachment when Hunter Biden's Ukrainian transactions were coming under scanner.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 03 Mar 2020 18:23
by abhik
Burnee is still not out, infact from my reading of the news he is still the front runner for democratic nomination. Anyways it should get clear by end of today.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 04 Mar 2020 00:58
by Cain Marko
For those in the US, just received this via email from HAF, seems like PJ is making some moves, PLiss TO DO NEEDFUL IT GOES IN TOMORROW!:

I was on Capitol Hill all last week and one thing is clear Rep. Jayapal's anti-India H. Res. 745 is gaining momentum.

The House Foreign Affairs Committee (HFAC) is scheduled to hold a vote on Wednesday, March 4th on a series of bills. Right now, H. Res. 745 is not on the agenda, but Rep. Jayapal and her allies are pushing HFAC Chairman Eliot Engel (D-NY) hard to vote on this bill.

We have to stop them now because if H. Res. 745 does get added to the agenda then it's already too late.

Click here to Stop Bad, Anti-India, Anti-Hindu Resolution H. Res. 745
https://www.votervoice.net/mobile/HAF/Campaigns/71929/Respond

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 04 Mar 2020 03:06
by Rudradev
Pocahontas goes Full Jihadi

http://www.opindia.com/2020/03/elizabet ... ti-muslim/

Senator Elizabeth Warren, a Democratic presidential aspirant for the 2020 Elections, has condemned ‘anti-Muslim violence’ in India and committed herself to “fighting for the rights and freedom of the people of Kashmir”. The Senator from Massachusetts hasn’t been performing very well in the Democratic Primaries thus far and going into Super Tuesday, the momentum is decisively against her.

The comments against India were made in a new plan Elizabeth Warren released on Tuesday for Muslim Communities in the USA. The abrogation of Article 370 and Kashmir figure into the political equations of the USA because Radical Islamists in the country consider Kashmir to be a matter that concerns the Ummah. After Vermont Senator and Warren’s rival in the Democratic Primaries, Bernie Sanders, made a pro-Jihad stance regarding Kashmir at an event organized by the ISNA which has links to terrorism, it appears Warren has decided to tread a similar trajectory.
Elizabeth Warren said in her plan, “Elizabeth knows we must stand up for those who can’t stand up for themselves. That includes speaking out against China’s cruel, bigoted treatment of its Uighur minority and to hold China accountable for its abuses; fighting for reconciliation and accountability for the atrocities committed against the Rohingya in Burma; condemning anti-Muslim violence in India and fighting for the rights and freedom of the people of Kashmir; and holding allies like Saudi Arabia to account for abuses of human rights.” As anyone aware of the nature of Kashmiri separatism knows fully well, it is Jihad that is being waged against India and any support for it is equivalent to supporting Radical Islamic Terrorism.

The Massachusetts Senator’s plan for American Muslims appears to be a desperate attempt to pander to the one community that had been left out of her pandering efforts thus far. As part of her pandering initiative, Warren had earlier announced that if she’s elected president, then any future Secretary of Education will need the approval of a transgender child she met last year. She had said that the transgender child will interview the potential Secretary of Education before any appointment is made. As it so happened, it didn’t help her with her voters and she continues to fail at winning the support of the electorate.

Elizabeth Warren has also lied about her race in the past. She claimed that she was Native American in order to gain employment as a professor at the Harvard Law Faculty. An exhaustive Boston Globe investigation in September 2018 reported that Warren’s “claim to Native American ethnicity was never considered by the Harvard Law faculty, which voted resoundingly to hire her, or by those who hired her to four prior positions at other law schools.”



Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 04 Mar 2020 06:58
by Rony
Posting here as it is primarily a US view of the issue.


From Kargil to Balakot: Southern Asian Crisis Dynamics and Future Trajectories

https://www.stimson.org/2020/from-kargi ... 0b08094ab2

Executive Summary

Inadvertent escalation risks in South Asia are concerning, and likely to recur. Even in a limited engagement, the risk of India-Pakistan conflict escalation is high because India—perceiving immutable Pakistan support for terrorism—seeks disproportionality in a crisis while Pakistan seeks conventional reciprocity. Both sides routinely miscalculate the other’s resolve and maintain incompatible theories of de-escalation.

Studying and learning from past crises does not ensure prevention. The quality of learning varies significantly by country, government, and contingent political interests. Learning the “right” lessons may not necessarily translate into improved decision-making. States can also draw lessons that make them more risk-prone than risk-averse.

With Pakistan, India has traded strategic restraint for strategic risk manipulation. India has been “cumulatively emboldened” by the absence of international push-back to behave more assertively towards Pakistan, perhaps risking a commitment trap even as it retains calibrated restraint and bargaining ability when it comes to friction with China.

Deterrence and crisis instability will likely intensify alongside further strategic and conventional force modernization. Advances in precision and standoff weapons capabilities enable India and Pakistan to satisfy public demands for retaliation and demonstrations of resolve, even without results. Their incomplete adaptation of counterforce capabilities could stoke false optimism and foster risky decision-making.

Future crises can escalate sharply and rapidly, and will be less open to crisis management. Balakot was a watershed moment with several thresholds crossed more rapidly than expected. New technologies compress decision-making timelines, reducing space for de-escalation or third-party intervention. A less active or impartial U.S. role further compounds this challenge.

A host of asymmetries limit the scope of bilateral confidence-building and third-party mediation, despite U.S. stakes and a growing Chinese role. Bilateral confidence-building measures (CBMs) are hampered by asymmetries in power, interest, domestic institutions, conceptions of the status quo, and relations with great powers. Third-party involvement is constrained by asymmetric demand from the two sides, perceptions of partiality, and insufficient leverage over nuclear-armed states.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 04 Mar 2020 18:14
by Rakesh
Mort Walker wrote:Can we quit talking about the F-35? Move it to the MRCA thread in the Mil Forum.

Done and thank you Mort-ji. Please no more F-35 discussions in this thread. I will start issuing temporary bans otherwise.

Now I have the task of changing the post titles in each of those posts that I have moved to the MRCA thread. Thanks a lot guys! :)

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 06 Mar 2020 11:45
by Amber G.
Rudradev wrote:Pocahontas goes Full Jihadi

Given that Warren's son-in-law (Tyagi) is Indian this makes her ignorance even more bizarre.. .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amelia_Warren_Tyagi

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 06 Mar 2020 12:57
by Rony
Amber G. wrote:Given that Warren's son-in-law (Tyagi) is Indian this makes her ignorance even more bizarre.. .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amelia_Warren_Tyagi


It could also be that her son-in-law is one of those Ro Khanna, Pramila Jayapal types and she was feeded more ignorance. Frankly, both in US and UK, its those leftie Indian types who are more pain in the ass than the WASP folks.

Western leftists are generally guided by the Indian leftists when it comes to India. Unlike during colonial times when missionaries and racists shaped the narrative and Indians were native informants, now the Indian leftists shape the narrative in Indian and Western media which gets picked up by Western leftists and comes back to India as 'Western narrative'. Even the Western evanjihadis use Indian leftists or Indian leftist inspired western leftists for their propaganda against Hinduism.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 06 Mar 2020 13:11
by nvishal
You all are wasting much time over random Democrat/labour MPs statements on India's internal matters. Even their local news networks do not entertain their opinions. They have no locus standi and the matter ends there.

The same with turkey and Malaysia.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 07 Mar 2020 03:17
by Rudradev
Rony wrote:
Amber G. wrote:Given that Warren's son-in-law (Tyagi) is Indian this makes her ignorance even more bizarre.. .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amelia_Warren_Tyagi


It could also be that her son-in-law is one of those Ro Khanna, Pramila Jayapal types and she was feeded more ignorance. Frankly, both in US and UK, its those leftie Indian types who are more pain in the ass than the WASP folks.
...
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Especially the desi guys who marry a certain kind of firang native.

Two words: Sadanand Dhume.

Two more: Ameya Pawar.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 07 Mar 2020 04:16
by Rishi_Tri
Trump Visit to India - WSJ Print Edition coverage - Front Page Coverage - India Preps:

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 07 Mar 2020 04:18
by Rishi_Tri
Trump Visit to India - PM Modi and President Trump Meet - WSJ Front Page

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