India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

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Postby Mort Walker » 24 Oct 2020 23:20

Vayutuvan wrote:
saip wrote: (at personal level my taxes went up because of his 'Tax cut'). In 2016 I too was fooled by him.


Since we are talking personal level things, my taxes did go down. Coastal experience may be different from Midwest.


The majority of Indian-Americans are higher income earners. The State and Local Taxes (SALT) deduction was capped at $10K, even though tax brackets were reduced, still caused people to pay higher federal tax. This was true in states with low or no income taxes, but it wasn't nearly as severe for these people. People in CA and NY got hit the worst. The solution is for states like CA and NY is to reduce state income and property taxes, instead of boosting their revenues knowing families will get a big federal deduction.

Similarly deductions were removed from corporate income taxes and brought the US corporate tax rate to 21%. The EU average is slightly below 21% in corporate taxes, but developed economies are closer to 19%. India is at 25%.

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Postby Mort Walker » 24 Oct 2020 23:28

darshan wrote:US bureaucracy will continue to have people with anti India and anti Hindu mindset. Once you add in pro pakistani administration to the mix and problems would prop up on a regular basis.This is exactly what will happen with a Biden-Harris administration and I find it amazing that Indians find this acceptable. Few days ago I had posted an example of how anti India bureaucracy is introduced at various military affilliated education centers in US. islamists constantly beat their drum to continue to brainwash people. Many from these education centers move on with a mindset that Hindus and India should not have weapons, that they'll proliferate, etc. And, I have personally run into many with such mindset with active roles that have ability to make meaningful decisions. Imagine walking into a presentation where DRDO and ISRO were being portrayed as tomorrow's proliferators and how US needs to build capabilities to counter such threats. Majority of the audience was involved in various decision making processes at this presentation. Now take those same people heading into voting booths and being greeted by anti Hindu organizations with various posters. Brainwashed actors within bureaucracy.


I agree completely.

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Postby Ambar » 25 Oct 2020 00:02

The labour party in UK in the 90s was where the US democrats are today, pakis had only began infiltrating, take control of city council, control voting blocks etc. Most Indian hindu diaspora ignored the slow but deliberate slide of the labour towards a rapidly forming radical left-radical islamist pro-paki nexus. If the democrats regain control of both houses+presidency and the infiltration of islamists continues along with radical elements like "the squad", then its only a matter of time when the very mention of India or Hindus will invite hate, derision, mockery and vilification just the way it has been in UK in the recent years. We must not forget the cogs, no matter how small within the current day democratic party, the likes of CAIR, NAAPI,Faiz Shakir, Ghulam Fai, Dilawar Syed etc will only get emboldened to attack hindus and Indian interests if the democrats in its current avatar comes to power with absolute majority.

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Postby nam » 25 Oct 2020 04:03

I generally check on comments section of social media and youtube, to gauge the "mood" and I came across the CNN video of Tulsi having a go at Harris.


It is fascinating how she has overwhelming(I mean really overwhelming) support among what looks like Republican voters, with many pointing out that they will vote for her, asking her to switch sides. And absolute hate towards Harris!

The most likes are for a comment which said Democrats threw away their "first female president" ! Incredible!

Hillary Clinton seems to have recognized quite early, who her opponent for 2024 will be.

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Postby mappunni » 25 Oct 2020 05:13

sanjayc wrote:
mappunni wrote:Today, I got an email from an ID South Asians Vote 2020 which I found in the spam folder :(( :(( And all those who get it please report it as Spam!

The email I guess is nothing but another ISI fronted organization with no website. The email has a link to a Vimeo Video with an introduction from the musician Jay Sean (never heard of him), followed by a flashy video on why "South Asians" must vote for Biden and how "South Asians" can flip key states. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Looks like ISI is going to the max extent to swing "South Asians" vote for DemoCraps. :rotfl: :rotfl:


So ISI is rooting for Democrats, while American Hindus are also rooting for Democrats. Since both have diametrically opposite interests, one of these two parties cannot think straight about which side its bread is buttered, and suffers from brain fog. Not difficult to understand which one.


Sanjay Saar all those numbers and percentages that American Hindus are rooting for the Dems are mostly a figment of imagination by the Libtard Media. The surveys are usually skewed when you interview 70% Dem leaning individuals and 30% Republican-leaning individuals and the media projects it as how the entire community votes.

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Postby nachiket » 26 Oct 2020 05:57

This is the India-US thread. Why would you think your personal taxes going up or down in the US has any relevance here? Please stay on topic.

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Postby Dilbu » 26 Oct 2020 12:24

At India-US '2+2' Talks, Key Defence Agreement Expected Before US Polls
New Delhi: US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Secretary of Defence Mark T Esper are on their way to New Delhi for the third edition of the 2+2 talks with their Indian counterparts, Foreign Minister S Jaishankar and Defence Minister Rajnath Singh. The dialogues come eight months after US President Donald Trump's visit to India and days before the country's presidential election.
Ahead of the important talks, the US State Department said the country welcomes India's emergence as a leading regional and global power. "As outlined in our National Security Strategy, the United States welcomes India's emergence as a leading regional and global power. The United States looks forward to collaborating closely with India during its upcoming term on the UN Security Council," the US said.

On the agenda for the 2+2 foreign and defence minister-level talks, the US said the subjects to be covered included regional security cooperation, defence information sharing, military-to-military interactions and defence trade.

"We have made significant progress towards concluding the last foundational defence enabling agreement - the Exchange and Cooperation Agreement or BECA," senior officials of the Trump administration said last week in an online news briefing.

There is a broad understanding that during the 2+2 talks, New Delhi and Washington may close-out signing BECA after years of negotiation. The signing of the agreement would allow the US to share precision satellite and topographical data from its constellation of military satellites on a real time basis.

Last week, the US also said it is watching the India-China standoff in Ladakh closely, sharing information with New Delhi, and wants to ensure the situation does not escalate.

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Postby VinodTK » 27 Oct 2020 00:56

U.S., India strike military satellite deal

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Cooperation Agreement on Geospatial Cooperation will allow India access to data for better accuracy of weapons like missiles and drones.
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Postby Dilbu » 27 Oct 2020 02:08

MK Bhadrakumar says the timing of 2+2 meeting is to make sure they sign the dotted lines before the election results can affect it.
US-India military alliance comes into view
The mystery about the awkward timing of the so-called 2+2 US-Indian security dialogue to be held in New Delhi on Tuesday, October 27, is largely because there is a chicken-and-egg situation about it.

It is impossible to decide which of two things caused the other one – the mushrooming US-Indian military alliance, or the continuing downhill slide in the India-China relationship.

The Indians at large harbor a notion that their country is cherrypicking out of the American basket of goodies, but the policymakers in New Delhi and the political leadership are well aware that it can only be a pipe dream, since a military alliance with a superpower is a profound, irrevocable commitment.

Some Indian analysts have tended to see the 2+2 on Tuesday, just a week before the November 3 US election, as a rushed event. But they fail to comprehend the great deliberateness about the timing of the 2+2 meeting.

It must be held now, precisely now, before November 3, for the reason that even a week later, a host of uncertainties could arise if a Joe Biden presidency sails into view. As the saying goes, there could be many a slip between the cup and the lip.

And all those nuts and bolts Jaishankar has been screwing into the prototype in his closed garage – the Basic Exchange and Cooperation Agreement (BECA) being the finishing touch – may start rusting if a cranking of the engine doesn’t happen now.

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Postby chetak » 27 Oct 2020 02:39

the amerikis are signalling that the outcome of the elections will not have a bearing on their present India policy.

but we need to watch them like a hawk.

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Postby vijayk » 27 Oct 2020 02:58

This more looks like a State Dept driven. So its not party dependent but we may see changes based on scum nexus of the Democratic party with Pakis. Who knows? All their tink tanks are now Islamist controlled

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Postby Mort Walker » 27 Oct 2020 08:56

vijayk wrote:This more looks like a State Dept driven. So its not party dependent but we may see changes based on scum nexus of the Democratic party with Pakis. Who knows? All their tink tanks are now Islamist controlled


The danger with a Biden administration is that they will share Indian satellite data with TSP and China. Not directly or in real-time, but through intermediaries such as defense and intelligence contracting companies. A Biden administration will look the other way and provides the Islamist lovers a plausible deniability, and at the same time give away India's capabilities. It is best that Pompeo and Esper be told that India wants BECA, but will wait to sign after the US election as there is too much at stake for India.

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Postby g.sarkar » 27 Oct 2020 13:30

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/27/asia/us- ... index.html
India to sign defensive agreement with US following Himalayan standoff with China
James Griffiths, CNN, Tue October 27, 2020

Hong Kong (CNN)-The United States and India have reaffirmed their defensive and security relationship, as Washington continues to rally allies in Asia amid concerns over increased Chinese military activity in the region.
In a meeting Monday in the Indian capital, US Secretary of Defense Mark Esper and his Indian counterpart Rajnath Singh discussed "military to military cooperation" and the upcoming Malabar naval exercises, according to a statement from the Indian Defense Ministry.
The statement also indicated that the two sides would sign the Basic Exchange and Cooperation Agreement (BECA) to enable greater geo-spatial information-sharing.
The Malabar drills, which will be held in the Indian Ocean next month, will feature all members of the so-called Quad, an informal alliance of the US, India, Japan and Australia, which has been proposed by some as a potential "Asian NATO," intended to counterbalance Chinese military strength in the region.
In a meeting of the Quad earlier this month in Tokyo, US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo railed against the "Chinese Communist Party's coverup" in the initial stages of the coronavirus pandemic, and saying "it is more critical now than ever that we collaborate to protect our people and partners from the CCP's exploitation, corruption, and coercion."
Speaking to reporters after that meeting, a senior State Department official said that "there's no avoiding the fact that it's China and its actions in the region that make the Quad actually matter and function this time around."
The official said a "sudden turn toward gross aggression by the Chinese government in its entire periphery" had alarmed Beijing's regional neighbors, and pointed in particular to ongoing tensions between India and China over their shared border in the Himalayas.
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Postby Jayram » 27 Oct 2020 15:13

Must be really something for
1. Top US leadership to travel in Covid times.
2. So close to the election to sign the paperwork on
3. What is essentially a sale agreement with GOI being the desperate buyer and so could be easily asked to travel to Washington to sign it.
Times they are strange indeed.

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Postby nam » 27 Oct 2020 15:28

Oh the "profound commitment" nonsense. How come such words were not attached to the Chinese, when they switched sides in 70's and ended up with a 15T economy? If Chinis can end up with a 15T GDP, being a commie country and never having fired a bullet in US wars, why cannot we?

It seems only India is suppose to carry the burden of "non-alignment", which suits China very well, while our people are struggling hard to move above a 2K per-capita.

Our sole focus should be US & Europe market access, convincing US, SK, Taiwan & Japanese companies to move in to India from China. Need to do whatever it takes to cross 10T GDP.

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Postby RajaRudra » 27 Oct 2020 16:24

In my early days, i used to tease my Filipino friends of their country is tied to neck level with yanks and will not be able to move a hair without support from Uncle(those days India was still under nucl sanctions).

With all the agreements hope we are not loosing the control and capacity(of our own).

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Postby nam » 27 Oct 2020 19:06

The difference between India and any other US ally, is our size. This is what happened to China as well. They grew so big, because of their population size.

Other US allies, grew in per-capita, but being smaller countries, don't carry the heft that we can carry.

Nobody expects US ally, Singapore to survive a war. But if the same per capita of 65K is applied to us..

Demography & Population is destiny. And remember, we are already 5th largest GDP. We just need become 3rd largest.. 7 -8Tr+

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Postby Manny » 27 Oct 2020 21:42

Sheesh! India still has the scrawny brown hands waving at the "Imperielists" at the US while they stay quiet at China.

Like someone here said, They had no problem Cheena cozying up with the US and don''t care for Cheena being non aligned. But they fight for a case for India being non aligned.. if you are not capable knowing who the good guys are and the who the bad guys are and feel unable to manage being independent you are a coward.

Look at Philippines, in spite of so many agreements, they tend to throw them all away if they see fit.
Be careful of the anachronistic congies/Leftists in our midst. They are so scared to make move forward, they rather stay in one spot and rot. The safest place for them.

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Postby Manny » 27 Oct 2020 21:45

nam wrote:Oh the "profound commitment" nonsense. How come such words were not attached to the Chinese, when they switched sides in 70's and ended up with a 15T economy? If Chinis can end up with a 15T GDP, being a commie country and never having fired a bullet in US wars, why cannot we?

It seems only India is suppose to carry the burden of "non-alignment", which suits China very well, while our people are struggling hard to move above a 2K per-capita.

Our sole focus should be US & Europe market access, convincing US, SK, Taiwan & Japanese companies to move in to India from China. Need to do whatever it takes to cross 10T GDP.


Very well put.

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Postby nandakumar » 27 Oct 2020 22:02

Manny wrote:Sheesh! India still has the scrawny brown hands waving at the "Imperielists" at the US while they stay quiet at China.

Like someone here said, They had no problem Cheena cozying up with the US and don''t care for Cheena being non aligned. But they fight for a case for India being non aligned.. if you are not capable knowing who the good guys are and the who the bad guys are and feel unable to manage being independent you are a coward.

Look at Philippines, in spite of so many agreements, they tend to throw them all away if they see fit.
Be careful of the anachronistic congies/Leftists in our midst. They are so scared to make move forward, they rather stay in one spot and rot. The safest place for them.

The Idea of India gang has only one argument. "Well China or Pakistan are naughty boys. But we Indians are bound by a superior moral code. So those arguments don't apply to us". On television debates this is reduced to some derisive comment as "whataboutery".

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Postby kit » 27 Oct 2020 23:01

nam wrote:I generally check on comments section of social media and youtube, to gauge the "mood" and I came across the CNN video of Tulsi having a go at Harris.
It is fascinating how she has overwhelming(I mean really overwhelming) support among what looks like Republican voters, with many pointing out that they will vote for her, asking her to switch sides. And absolute hate towards Harris!
The most likes are for a comment which said Democrats threw away their "first female president" ! Incredible!
Hillary Clinton seems to have recognized quite early, who her opponent for 2024 will be.


mami getting hammered by Tulsi !! :rotfl:

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Postby chetak » 27 Oct 2020 23:44

vijayk wrote:This more looks like a State Dept driven. So its not party dependent but we may see changes based on scum nexus of the Democratic party with Pakis. Who knows? All their tink tanks are now Islamist controlled


kalu Indians are not among the favorites at the foggy bottom.

they have always preferred the perfidious pakis to the pontificating Indians

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Postby Dilbu » 28 Oct 2020 00:11

BECA done, fighters and armed drones next as India turns US positive
BECA clears the path for India acquiring armed drones in the first instance and at a later date, fighter aircraft. Esper alluded to the discussions around this topic when he announced that the US planned to sell more fighter planes and drones to India. He did not elaborate.

India has been looking at buying medium-altitude long-endurance armed Predator-B drones from the US instead of the unarmed drones that it had planned earlier. An Indian official said New Delhi had been earlier offered F-16 and F-18 fighters but India was looking at Boeing’s F-15EX fighters that the aircraft manufacturer hasn’t yet been licensed to sell abroad.

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Postby darshan » 28 Oct 2020 00:18

This is going to be bitter sweet thing for many in US. On one hand you don't want to see India import more but on other hand there will be usage of various weapons and technologies against non dharmic people.

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Postby Manny » 28 Oct 2020 00:22

Is this the reason, Russia is triggered to start selling Helies to the CCP and PLa?

Russia Equips Chinese Special Forces With Latest Helicopters As It Battles India In The Eastern Ladakh


https://eurasiantimes.com/russia-equips ... rn-ladakh/

What happened to our all weather friend Russia? why is Russia arming our enemies! eh! Where are the desies who fear the US at? Could y'all speak to your friends in Russia to not arm the CCP?

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Postby chola » 28 Oct 2020 00:43

^^^ They didn't need a reason to sell even the RD-33 to the pakis for the JF-17. Why do you think they need any special reason to equip our enemies?

The only special relationship is we buy more than the chinis or pakis so by that count they like us more.

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Postby nam » 28 Oct 2020 01:29

The Chinis have been using our relationship with Russia as a nice little road blocker to prevent us from getting in to US camp. The Chinese know, more than the weapons, it is the economic benefits of being on the US side. They know it , because they are the biggest recipient of it.

Other than weapons, we hardly have any trade with Russia. There is no harm in we buying Russian kits, in return for their "neutrality". We don't interfere in their dandha, they don't interfere in ours. A transactional relation. We cannot stop them from selling it to China & Pak.

It is our incompetence, that we haven't been able to build a MIC, to counter Chinese & Russian kit arming the Paks.

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Postby Dilbu » 28 Oct 2020 01:32

The Ladhak skirmish with China will be remebered in history as the moment when India crossed the point in the middle of the bridge and started its journey towards US military ecosystem. BECA is only a beginning and Russians will be aware of this. They may get some more juicy deals and upgrade of MKIs in the coming decade but India is no longer an assured buyer for Russian hardware. We already have Chinooks and Apaches along with MKIs and Migs and in the coming years we will maintain a khichdi of both NATO and Russian maal until we slowy move over predominantly to NATO stuff. For all this to happen US has to demonstrate that its India policy will not get affected by election results at home. This election will be a litmus test.

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Postby darshan » 28 Oct 2020 01:42

The main issue is going to be US bureaucracy. Just like Indian bureaucracy. The US bureaucracy was trained for decades to sleep with chinese and pakis and hate Hindus and India. Marching orders and related purging hasn't happened so issues will continue on a regular basis. This bureaucracy was educated and trained to not like India and Hindus. And, the same bureaucracy also goes to church where they are taught the same. That's what chinese didn't encounter when sleeping with US and that's why they were able to maximize benefits.

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Postby nam » 28 Oct 2020 01:46

The solution for any "anti" feelings from anyone, is to get to 10T GDP. By hook or crook.

It's time we learn something from the Chinis. They got to 15T by being anti-Soviets.

I find it fascinating that we feel Russia will offended if we are close to US, while ignoring that Russians are close to our adversary, lock stock barrel! :roll:

If the Russians think that after all the drama by China (openly supporting & arming pak , preventing massod designation, openly interfering in J&K,), we will not react, they are delusional.

We gave a very long rope to the Chinis to behave.

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Postby darshan » 28 Oct 2020 01:58

True. When one looks at Russians and chinese, only thing can be deduced is that Russians will do all bending over backwards for money. if being anti Russia sells in US then that's what India should have been. Russians would have still bent over backwards to sell things as they certainly didn't have any issue with chinese whom they have border with.

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Postby Manny » 28 Oct 2020 04:19

I am s orry..Russia has no loyalty. They would sell whatever to Cheena. they are as immoral as the leftists of India. these two would sell the hindus down the drain Just because the leftists of India are Indians does not mean we need to stand with these losers..they too are our enemies. The worst kind. enemies from the inside.

US although may be strategically stand with our enemies like Porkistanies during cold war, they have better values and and better arms

India need to ignore the far leftist losers of India and use the US and its relation ship to arm ourselves with US Armaments' and EU armaments'. If it rubs the Russians the wrong way, remind them they have no qualms about arming the Cheenies who are killing us. At least the US don';t sell arms to the Cheenies to harm us.. so the US is better than the Russians. If Russia continues to sell arms to Cheena, they are enemies of India. Period! Warn Russia not to sell anything to Cheena. Have some courage India and stand up for yourself.

and EF the commie lefties here.

They keep whining about how Russia is our life long friend.. But ask these leftist losers, what have WE done to help Russia? NOTHING! We have not helped Russia either losers! Leftist Desies have no principles, no values, no courage to even stand up for people who they claim are their for ever friends! NO! so STFU!

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Postby Mort Walker » 28 Oct 2020 04:33

^^^Careful. You'll bring comrade Filipov and friends out. :mrgreen:

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Postby OmkarC » 28 Oct 2020 06:06

A snapshot of raw unabashed hatred and venom being spewed against RSS (and indirectly Hindus) by a current (?) USCIRF employee.. this was posted in a pro-republican website.

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https://townhall.com/columnists/tinaram ... n-n2578858

Deep in the Heart of Texas, Dangerous Extremists Are Propping Up Democrat’s Campaign
Tina Ramirez |Posted: Oct 27, 2020 11:22 AM

In Texas’ 22nd District outside of Houston, an extremist group that has killed thousands of innocents is helping fund the campaign of Democratic candidate Sri Preston Kulkarni.

The leaders of a radical Hindu nationalist faction based in India, Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS), are donating to Kulkarni to protect their interests in Indo-American relations and advance their extremist and sectarian agenda in India.

The RSS has orchestrated mob violence against Muslims and Christians across India, advocated for ethno-religious cleansing to promote “Hindu-ness” and purity on the subcontinent, and praised both Hitler and Gandhi’s assassin.

India’s ruling BJP party, led by Prime Minister Narendra Modi, has been an accomplice to numerous attacks on religious minorities but the tip of the spear in that violence is RSS. Its leaders have stirred up hateful mobs and its militants have killed numerous Christians and Muslims for years.

In 2002, the RSS led the mob violence in the Indian state of Gujarat that brutally killed thousands of Muslims. A member of RSS, Modi, who served as the Gujarat’s chief minister at the time, allegedly ordered police to stand down as the crowds lit children on fire, skewered victims alive, and burned homes, shops, and Mosques.

In 2005, the US Commission on International Religious Freedom, a government watchdog where I later worked, succeeded in punishing Modi for his crimes – denying him a visa to visit the US for over a decade.

A few years later, in 2008, I saw the results of RSS carnage firsthand when I travelled to India as staff director for the bipartisan Congressional International Religious Freedom Caucus. Nearly 100 Christians were murdered in sectarian pogroms led by the RSS and its Hindu extremist followers. Over 300 churches were burned to the ground in just four days and tens of thousands left homeless.

It wasn’t an isolated incident but the RSS’s modus operandi. This hate group frequently kills innocents, burns churches, and destroys mosques to terrorize non-Hindus. And its leader demanded the Nobel Committee revoke Mother Teresa’s Peace Prize, falsely claiming the Catholic saint’s ulterior motive was the conversion of non-Christians.

The Houston Democrat’s decision to cozy up to these radicals for campaign cash has not gone unnoticed. The largest and most influential Muslim-American political group in the US, Emgage, publicly criticized Kulkarni in August after emphatically endorsing him in 2018. Emgage asked the would-be congressman to reject the Hindu nationalist organizations and their violence but he refused.

One Hardline Hindu nationalist even claims credits for “discovering” the Democratic candidate. In turn, Kulkarni said one of his RSS-backing bundlers “had become like my father.”

A former US diplomat, Kulkarni is already jockeying for seats on the powerful House Armed Services and Foreign Affairs committees. That would certainly be quiet the foothold for RSS.

Kulkarni’s campaign website boasts of his support for “religious tolerance” but his refusal to renounce RSS ties tells a different story. And India’s governing party, the RSS’s sister organization, needs Uncle Sam to turn a blind eye to its abuses if India hopes to compete economically or militarily in Asia.

India needs both a permanent and favorable trade deal with the US to ensure a market for its goods and services and America to aid its military build-up and territorial ambitions.

That trade agreement has proved elusive, despite Trump’s best efforts. Since India increasingly relies on US defense equipment and American backing for its foreign policy, Modi’s Hindu nationalists need friends in high places to keep the spigot on.

India also needs Uncle Sam to turn a blind eye to its continuing human rights abuses since its sectarian ideology precludes tolerating Christians, Muslims, and other minorities as equals and recently excluded Muslims from becoming Indian citizens. A friend like Kulkarni in Congress would be helpful – to say the least.

And this isn’t a partisan issue. As a staffer, I witnessed firsthand both Democrat and Republican members of Congress who took Hindu nationalist cash bully their colleagues for supporting a crackdown on the Indian government’s sectarian abuses.

Money in politics is often called “dark” or “dirty” – but in Kulkarni’s case it’s “blood” money – the blood of thousands of innocents, both Christians and Muslims, who have been murdered by RSS and its affiliates.

If Russian, Chinese, and Iranian disinformation campaigns targeting our elections worry us, a foreign fascist military buying a seat in Congress should outrage every American who believes that America’s commitment to the dignity and rights of man extends to the entire human race – no matter their race, color, or creed.

Tina Ramirez is an international religious freedom expert, former staff director of the Congressional International Religious Freedom Caucus, and President of Hardwired Global, an international religious liberty nonprofit.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby darshan » 28 Oct 2020 06:38

Yes, this goes around in all circles irrespective of this Texas county election. As far as the election is concerned, Kulkarni could have walked through all Hindu genocides committed by muslims in last 1000 years but he has chose not to. Only way to counter this is by debates in open forums. Otherwise, it's common to walk into such conversations in both Republican and Democrat circles as it's institutional to hate pagans.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby Rishirishi » 28 Oct 2020 06:41

darshan wrote:This is going to be bitter sweet thing for many in US. On one hand you don't want to see India import more but on other hand there will be usage of various weapons and technologies against non dharmic people.


But make no mistake. If China is defeated or out of the equation, only India will be left with the potential to challenge USA. They may try to break up India, into smaller parts. Or they may equip Pakistan against India. A world without the Chinese threat, is a greater threat to India, then China itself.

India will have to carve a place out for itself, so strong, that USA will not be able to or feel the need to challenge it.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby Roop » 28 Oct 2020 06:49

Manny wrote: ...and EF the commie lefties here.

They keep whining about how Russia is our life long friend.. But ask these leftist losers, what have WE done to help Russia? NOTHING! We have not helped Russia either losers! Leftist Desies have no principles, no values, no courage to even stand up for people who they claim are their for ever friends! NO! so STFU!


A word of advice here, Manny: I think you need to ease up on the name-calling and ad-hominem attacks on members of this forum. This kind of talk, if the admins allow it to continue, will result in flame wars and useless gaali-galoch and ulimately, in this thread getting locked.

Having said that, I will also say that I agree with you and some others on this thread: I am very pleased at this latest turn of events (closer Indo-US ties, with the reasonable expectation of more to come). Oh, and another thing -- I'm really, really, really hoping Trump gets re-elected, and the GOP takes control of the House and retains the Senate.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby hnair » 28 Oct 2020 07:12

Mort Walker wrote:^^^Careful. You'll bring comrade Filipov and friends out. :mrgreen:


Admins too.

manny, consider this an informal warning, since you are back after a long time.

Everyone else, please report further weird posts.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby Cain Marko » 28 Oct 2020 09:32

mappunni wrote:
sanjayc wrote:
So ISI is rooting for Democrats, while American Hindus are also rooting for Democrats. Since both have diametrically opposite interests, one of these two parties cannot think straight about which side its bread is buttered, and suffers from brain fog. Not difficult to understand which one.


Sanjay Saar all those numbers and percentages that American Hindus are rooting for the Dems are mostly a figment of imagination by the Libtard Media. The surveys are usually skewed when you interview 70% Dem leaning individuals and 30% Republican-leaning individuals and the media projects it as how the entire community votes.

Yeah, the Howdy Mody event pretty much states which way Indian sentiments lean. Nevertheless I can't but wonder - how many of those who support Modi-Trump are actual US nationals? And how many are H1B types?

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Postby mappunni » 28 Oct 2020 09:41

Cain Marko wrote:
mappunni wrote:
Sanjay Saar all those numbers and percentages that American Hindus are rooting for the Dems are mostly a figment of imagination by the Libtard Media. The surveys are usually skewed when you interview 70% Dem leaning individuals and 30% Republican-leaning individuals and the media projects it as how the entire community votes.

Yeah, the Howdy Mody event pretty much states which way Indian sentiments lean. Nevertheless, I can't but wonder - how many of those who support Modi-Trump are actual US nationals? And how many are H1B types?


Cain Saar,
Most of the crowd which was at the event were the vast majority, US Citizens, there were a few H1Bs out of curiosity. The US Citizens, I know at least have voted straight Republican in Texas and my friends in Ohio.

My take is President Trump will take Texas, Ohio, and Pennsylvania especially after the recent fumbling by Biden anna. Florida and Arizona will be close and both are expected to go with Trump which will get him his second term. Kamala Mami was pitching in Texas in Houston and Dallas this week which hardly matters.


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