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Amarnath Yatris killed in terror attack. Allahoakbar

Postby shiv » 10 Jul 2017 21:47

Amarnath Yatra attack: Six pilgrims killed, four injured as terrorists target yatris’ bus in Anantnag
http://indianexpress.com/article/india/ ... g-kashmir/
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Postby AlapArya » 10 Jul 2017 21:51

Om Shanti

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Postby shiv » 10 Jul 2017 22:02

I want to see the dead bodies of ten stone pelters

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Postby Santosh » 10 Jul 2017 22:17

WTH, hitting our soft underbelly. Needs to be met with massive, disproportionate response.

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Postby schinnas » 10 Jul 2017 22:23

Om Nama Shivaya. Om Shanthi.

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Postby Marten » 10 Jul 2017 22:33

They have finally crossed the Rubicon. No mercy for any of these pigs and their masters who are attacking innocent yatris. I hope we turn Skardu HQ to rubble.

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Postby tushar_m » 10 Jul 2017 22:35

Some retired-Army officer on Times now is saying that the bus was without cover of security forces. (don't know his name)

The local people assured the pilgrims that everything will be safe & then the same locals alerted the terrorist.

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Postby Akshay Kapoor » 10 Jul 2017 22:39

Modi should make this a very big deal. Use this as leverage to go for the jugular and hammer the terrorises and stone pesters and media.

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Postby Prem Kumar » 10 Jul 2017 22:43

Om Shantih.

This is a civilizational war between Hinduism & the savages (Islam). It needs a fight to the finish. Its either us or them.

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Postby Chandragupta » 10 Jul 2017 22:46

tushar_m wrote:Some retired-Army officer on Times now is saying that the bus was without cover of security forces. (don't know his name)

The local people assured the pilgrims that everything will be safe & then the same locals alerted the terrorist.


Yes I heard that too. It was a planned ambush. Local Muslims were hand in glove. They all conspired to kill unarmed kafirs.

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Postby abhik » 10 Jul 2017 22:48

Marten wrote:They have finally crossed the Rubicon. No mercy for any of these pigs and their masters who are attacking innocent yatris. I hope we turn Skardu HQ to rubble.

There have been many outrages before and there will be many more to come. After all these years I have come to the conclusion that it's better to keep quite than express impotent rage.

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Postby ashish raval » 10 Jul 2017 22:55

Chandragupta wrote:
tushar_m wrote:Some retired-Army officer on Times now is saying that the bus was without cover of security forces. (don't know his name)

The local people assured the pilgrims that everything will be safe & then the same locals alerted the terrorist.


Yes I heard that too. It was a planned ambush. Local Muslims were hand in glove. They all conspired to kill unarmed kafirs.


This is not new. My friend was in Kashmir when Burhan wani was killed last year. He described Kashmir as if it is Pakistan. He was very critical of Kashmiris just strolling around without any work whatsoever and conspiring anti India conspiracies along those corners and discussing stone pelting strategies. Dr described aftermath of Sami killing like a war zone and it's airports read srinagar as cattle camp of people fleeing the valley including some well to do locals.

My brother just managed to avoid the attack having left valley just yesterday for Rajasthan after visiting baba Amarnath. My thoughts are with the families facing the tragic loss of their family members.

It is time for these guys to fall of the cliff now after random disappearances. India should revive technical services division of the Army now which reports to PM only.


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Postby Prem Kumar » 10 Jul 2017 23:01

As Rajiv Malhotra said (about Western Academia): "You cannot continue feeding a crocodile, hoping he will become your friend one day"
Kashmiri Muslims are indoctrinated by Islam & Pakistan. They're a lazy, pampered, radicalized bunch with whom "winning hearts & minds" won't work (an occasional officer or sportsman or civil servant notwithstanding).

Kashmir needs to be cleansed of this scum. Hindus must reclaim this holy land for ourselves.

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Postby Chandragupta » 10 Jul 2017 23:03

Hindu history does not shy away from violence. Bhagwan Parshuram exterminated Kashatriyas from the world more than a dozen times over when they had become adharmis. Not everything can be fixed with appeasement and patience, sometimes overwhelming force is needed.

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Postby Manish_Sharma » 10 Jul 2017 23:10

This is classic Islam:

a.) Planting their rohangiya muslims - Bangladeshi muslims in Kaffir land surreptitiously,. helped by sickulars.

b.) Making living impossible for Hindus in their majority areas.

c.) born of sinking rotten cu*ts sickulars of rNDTV and sickulars opening Champagne and celebrating the killings of Hindu Pilgrims.

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Re: Amarnath Yatris killed in terror attack. Allahoakbar

Postby svenkat » 10 Jul 2017 23:19

REPEAL ART 370.

Kashmir will become an atoot and abhinna anga of Hindustan.

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Postby Chandragupta » 10 Jul 2017 23:20

If they try and repeal Article 370 right now, anybody standing in the way will be buried politically.

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Postby svenkat » 10 Jul 2017 23:21

NaMo has to get necessary support in Rajya Sabha.But I think he will start making moves once presidential elections are over.

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Postby Gus » 10 Jul 2017 23:29

Chandragupta wrote:If they try and repeal Article 370 right now, anybody standing in the way will be buried politically.


are you sure that political opponents of modi will align with him on this for nations interests?

if nations interests were on their mind, this stuff would not have gone this far for so long..

modi will not do something without reasonable confidence that he will win.

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Postby UlanBatori » 10 Jul 2017 23:38

IMO, there has to be a "finding" that Salahuddin and H-ul-Mu (POK) is behind this attack. There's a price on his head internationally, remember. Plus that the other toad (Chinese-certified Non-Terrorist) is also involved.

Followed by a serious cross-border jhapad with all-out use of Su-30s etc and maybe 1 or 2 sinkings off Karachi. What has to be shown is a serious intent to do **NOT** Proportional but randomly disproportionate response, directly impacting Pak Army etc. But first, stop the damn terror-mobile Muzzafarabad Bus Service and the Samjhauta Express if they are still running.

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Postby Lilo » 10 Jul 2017 23:39

Shortly after the Beslan hostage-taking raid in 2004, during which Umarov's close relatives were held for several days at Khankala military base near Grozny,[14] Prosecutor General of Russia Vladimir Ustinov suggested the practice of taking rebel leaders' relatives hostage. In 2005, the Russian leading human rights group Memorial blamed pro-Moscow Chechen forces (Kadyrovtsy) for a policy of abductions of the rebels' relatives.[21][22] On 5 May 2005, a group of masked attackers kidnapped Umarov's wife, his one-year-old son, and his 74-year-old father, Khamad (Hamad).[14] According to the rebel sources, Umarov's family was abducted by the employees of the Oil Regiment (Neftepolk, headed by Adam Delimkhanov) and held in the Kadyrov family's private prison in the village of Tsentoroi.[20] On 24 February 2005, Umarov's younger brother Ruslan was kidnapped by armed men and then allegedly tortured by the Federal Security Service (FSB) at Khankala base.[23] Umarov's wife and son were later freed, but his elderly father and the younger brother both "disappeared"; in April 2007, Umarov declared his father had been murdered in captivity.[20][24] In August 2005, Umarov's sister, Natalia Khumaidova, was abducted in the Chechen town of Urus-Martan;[22][25] she was released days later, after local residents protesting for her return rallied and blocked a federal highway.[14] In 2003–2004, his cousin Zaurbek Umarov and nephew Roman Atayev were reportedly detained in Chechnya and Ingushetia, and then "disappeared".
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dokka_Umarov

Time to make the family members of the piglets disappear.Show the murderous intent of the Indian state let every AK welding piglet fear for his abbujan and ammijan's life when he is out wageing a war on Indian state.
Else we will see more farce such as below being djineered by the local support.
http://m.timesofindia.com/india/jk-huma ... 528129.cms

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Postby Varoon Shekhar » 10 Jul 2017 23:44

Watch for the apologetics, qualifications, utterly false equivalences that are going to be made, including the activities of Gau Rakshaks, security forces' actions against stone pelters, treatment of Dalits in UP, and the death of Gandhi in 1948.Anything to cover the Islamist threat

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Postby Gyan » 10 Jul 2017 23:54

Bring back Ikhwan and remove PDP

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Postby ramana » 11 Jul 2017 00:36

Folks more data for next 24 hours please....

Two x-posts from GDF...

Schmidt wrote:http://news.rediff.com/commentary/2017/jul/10/liveupdates.htm

Six Amarnath Yatra pilgrims were killed and 12 injured when terrorists opened fire on a bus they were travelling on Monday in Jammu and Kashmir's Anantnag district.


Ankar wrote:Amarnath Yatra attack LIVE: Seven pilgrims killed, many injured as terrorists target yatris’ bus in Anantnag

Shiv Arror@Twitter
7 Amarnath Yatra pilgrims gunned down in their bus by bike-borne terrorists in Anantnag. Several critically injured. Death toll likely up.

:cry: :cry:

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Postby SBajwa » 11 Jul 2017 00:39

Time to open the third eye on Kashmiri muslims Terrorists!
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Postby Chinmayanand » 11 Jul 2017 00:50

This ,too, shall pass like 26/11 .

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Postby sunnyP » 11 Jul 2017 02:55

Apologists are already trying to paint this as some kind of accident where the dead were killed in the crossfire and not deliberately targeted. :roll:

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Postby AlapArya » 11 Jul 2017 03:11

sunnyP wrote:Apologists are already trying to paint this as some kind of accident where the dead were killed in the crossfire and not deliberately targeted. :roll:


These neech media traders were calling the 17 year old Bengali boy, who made the Facebook post, as a propagandized by Hindutva (as if it's a bad thing), but are giving dayaa and the benefit of the doubt to Muslim terrorists? What a piss poor situation we Hindus have brought upon ourselves?

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Postby ramana » 11 Jul 2017 03:41

That Rediff article has crucial timeline and details.
How about we separate the chaff from the wheat.

Terrorists on Monday night killed seven Amarnath pilgrims from Gujarat, including six women, and injured 32 others as they struck at a bus in Kashmir's Anantnag district, in the worst attack on the annual pilgrimage since the year 2000.

The bus bearing the registration number GJ09Z 9976 was attacked at around 8.20 pm near Khanabal when it was on its way to Jammu, police said.

Police said the bus was not a part of the yatra convoy which is being provided elaborate security.

The terrorists first attacked a bullet-proof bunker of the police at Botengoo, a police official said, adding it was retaliated. There were no injuries in this attack.

Thereafter the terrorists fired on a police picket near Khannabal,
the police added.

When the police retaliated, the terrorists fled, firing indiscriminately in which the bus carrying the yatris got it.

Seven of the pilgrims were killed and 32 were injured,
the police said.

The police and top government sources said the bus driver had violated rules for the pilgrimage, which state that no yatra vehicle should be on the highway after 7 pm as the security cover is withdrawn after that.

........



Lets look for more details.

1) Why would the bus keep going to Jammu despite the late hour and no police escort?

2) They were returning from Amarnath Caves to Srinagar. Obviously they didn't want to halt at Srinagar.

3) How far is the Khannabal from Jammu?
3.a) How far is Botengo from Khannabal?
3.b)Was the checkpost at Botengoo notified about the failed attack at Khannabal?
4) The bus had unique idenitifers as coming from Gujarat and had an Om on the bus to idenitify the passengers.
5) The bus was fired from both sides leading to high casualties.

6)Why were the police unable to kill the terrorist attackers at Khannabal?

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Postby ramana » 11 Jul 2017 03:43

From Disha:


From the information., after their pilgrimage the pilgrims ended up in Srinagar at 4 pm.

They most likely did not want to stay overnight in Srinagar & decided to go to Jammu. They started around 5:30 but might have got delayed.

Road opening was withdrawn at 7:30., they might not have been in comm loop.

Attack happened at 8:30 pm.
Most pilgrims were from Dharampur, Gujarat


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Postby ramana » 11 Jul 2017 03:53

One thing I noticed is the media/police seems to have managed the news in this attack.

First reports said 2 pilgrims killed
Next 6 killed.
Next 7 killed, 6 were women and 32 injured. The time difference was 2 to 4 hours from ANI News.

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Postby Singha » 11 Jul 2017 03:55

Khannabal is outskirt of anantnag ie only 50km south of
Srinagar and very far from jammu

If they started at 5.30pm should have crossed that place well before 8.30pm unless there was a huge traffic jam or they halted to have food somewhere. Some pilgrim buses carry lpg cylinders and cook food on roadsides

Why was this bus allowed to go feral? Looks like it somehow slipped through cracks and being identifiable as pilgrims was tracked by bikeborne spies and hunted down

I dont believe much of it being a chance victim in crossfire

The bus operator to make quicker bucks did not move with convoy and kept pax in dark probably

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Postby ramana » 11 Jul 2017 03:59

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/ ... f-4744943/


THE ATTACK on Monday came even as extra security was provided for the Amarnath Yatra this year. But, sources said, the bus and its passengers had not followed a single security advisory issued by the Jammu and Kashmir Police and the CRPF.

“These yatris had not registered themselves, as is advised, and did not even become part of the yatra convoy, which is escorted by security forces, both to and from Amarnath, everyday. They also violated the 7 pm curfew on movement of yatris,” said CRPF DG R R Bhatnagar.
“This time, we had deployed more forces and made extra arrangements for their security. It can become very difficult to protect the yatris if they do not follow security advisories,” he said.

CRPF sources in Kashmir said that according to the advisory, yatris are supposed to register themselves and become part of the yatra convoy. This convoy is protected by security forces and led by a road-opening party. Movement is not allowed after 7 pm.

“The information we have is that these yatris visited Amarnath shrine two days ago and started for Jammu today. The information is yet to be verified. Why they decided to move after 7 pm needs to be investigated,” said a CRPF officer from Kashmir.

Meanwhile, Sanjay Patel of Umiya travels, the original owner of the bus, who is based in Idar, Sabarkantha, said he had sold the bus to Jawahar Desai of Om Travels in Valsad. But since the payment was yet to be made, the paper work was yet to be done.


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Postby ramana » 11 Jul 2017 04:06

Adding to the background.
The bus was not registered with the convoy from the Amarnath Yatra buses.
It came on its own and did not follow directions and the main convoy had already left.

But all this does not mean the pilgrims should be attacked by the terrorists.

Also what is this meme of Kashmir politicians that pilgrims are guests of the state.
No they are citizens of India.

I think the universal condemnation means this attack has struck a raw nerve.

BTW, I think Botengo was the village and Khannbal is a nearby police outpost just outside the village.

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Re: Amarnath Yatris killed in terror attack. Allahoakbar

Postby Singha » 11 Jul 2017 04:07

As per above convoy had crossed banihal tunnel already as to be expected if starting at 5pm

Only mystery is why this bus was so late....

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Postby vasu raya » 11 Jul 2017 04:33

There was news of bus tire puncture...

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Postby ArjunPandit » 11 Jul 2017 05:10

ramana wrote:One thing I noticed is the media/police seems to have managed the news in this attack.

First reports said 2 pilgrims killed
Next 6 killed.
Next 7 killed, 6 were women and 32 injured. The time difference was 2 to 4 hours from ANI News.

Ramana sir,
while these points are important to understand the happenings of the actual event. My fear is such analysis (or rather overanalysis) will be picked up by MSM for CT propagation and dilute the very essence of this attack that this is a islamic terror attack on hindus directed by pakistan and their Kashmiri muslim proxies. Narratives e.g. how locals helped the poor civilians and gave their blood to dying victims will be shouted to demoonstrate "bada dil of islam and kashmiriyat" and that is something that needs to be countered.


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