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Postby Iyersan » 12 Jul 2017 17:16

http://www.news18.com/news/india/reveal ... 59029.html
Revealed: Pak Arming Hizbul Mujahideen With Chemical Weapons

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Postby DrRatnadip » 12 Jul 2017 17:21

http://m.timesofindia.com/india/modis-p ... 560791.cms

Modi's policies created space for terrorists in Kashmir: Rahul Gandhi


NEW DELHI: Congress vice president Rahul Gandhi said on Wednesday that Prime Minister Narendra Modi's quest for "short term political gain" has "created space for terrorists in Kashmir", leading to incidents like the terror attack on Amarnath pilgrims on Monday, which left seven people dead.

This guy is real ret*rd.. :evil: .. trying to use this tragedy for political gains..

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Postby DrRatnadip » 12 Jul 2017 17:29

Iyersan wrote:http://www.news18.com/news/india/revealed-pak-arming-hizbul-with-chemical-weapons-1459029.html
Revealed: Pak Arming Hizbul Mujahideen With Chemical Weapons


If pak provided chemical weapons are used against our security establishment that should be last straw on camels back :evil: .. If we have enough intelligence about this we should think about pre emptive strike on pakis..There is no use waiting for actual attack to take place on our soil..

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Postby Karthik S » 12 Jul 2017 17:39

We've been reactive so far, even the surgical strike was a reaction to Uri, this threat alone is enough justification for preemptive strikes across PoK.

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Postby A Deshmukh » 12 Jul 2017 17:41

DrRatnadip wrote:http://m.timesofindia.com/india/modis-policies-created-space-for-terrorists-in-kashmir-rahul-gandhi/articleshow/59560791.cms
Modi's policies created space for terrorists in Kashmir: Rahul Gandhi
NEW DELHI: Congress vice president Rahul Gandhi said on Wednesday that Prime Minister Narendra Modi's quest for "short term political gain" has "created space for terrorists in Kashmir", leading to incidents like the terror attack on Amarnath pilgrims on Monday, which left seven people dead.
This guy is real ret*rd.. :evil: .. trying to use this tragedy for political gains..

IMHO, Mehbooba govt has allowed the terrorists to come back. So, in one way RaGa is correct.
Aligning with PDP was a mistake and that needs to be corrected by dismissing the Govt.

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Postby ricky_v » 12 Jul 2017 17:56

Death of 500 odd people in your economic capital by your enemy in a single incident was not provocative enough, why should this one be? Countries that are restrained by their " betters" can only eat their excrement and praise the taste as it were. These new normals will keep on gaining new ground, every iteration taking them closer to the only threshold that the third worlders are allowed to complain about, nuclear weapons. Till that time, they can kill our people, swindle our wealth, steal our land, demand subsidized medical attention before our citizens, make moolah off our showbiz and then still preach about the hatred this wretched land and it's people generate.

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Postby Aditya_V » 12 Jul 2017 18:00

DrRatnadip wrote:http://m.timesofindia.com/india/modis-policies-created-space-for-terrorists-in-kashmir-rahul-gandhi/articleshow/59560791.cms

Modi's policies created space for terrorists in Kashmir: Rahul Gandhi


NEW DELHI: Congress vice president Rahul Gandhi said on Wednesday that Prime Minister Narendra Modi's quest for "short term political gain" has "created space for terrorists in Kashmir", leading to incidents like the terror attack on Amarnath pilgrims on Monday, which left seven people dead.

This guy is real ret*rd.. :evil: .. trying to use this tragedy for political gains..

Boss as much he is a retard the sikular combo will believe terror increased since 2014. Same rubbish was stated during NDA1. There seems to a constituency which seems to work with those against us.

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Postby panduranghari » 12 Jul 2017 18:17

A_Gupta wrote:The others I can think of are:

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This could also be an appeal to the greenest i.e. ISIS to take them seriously and stop making them clean toilets, cooking food in Levant. They seek recognition and what better way that killing for the sake of killing. Killing Kafirs is a bonus for them.

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Postby SBajwa » 12 Jul 2017 20:16

Why can't we use these drones to attack LET and HM terrorists across the border?


http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 980098.cms

NEW DELHI: India's first missile armed drones that will give it the capability to carry out stand off cross-border strikes are ready in Israel, ahead of the first ever visit to the nation by an Indian prime minister.

The Heron TP-armed drones, capable of detecting, tracking and taking down targets with air to ground missiles, have been on the armed forces wish list for years, before the programme was fast tracked in September 2015, as reported by ET.
Prime Minister Narender Modi is heading for a historic visit to Israel in July and is expected to discuss and take forward the growing strategic partnership between the two nations.

One of India's top weapons suppliers, Israel has been most enthusiastic on the 'Make in India' initiative and is keen to shift its production lines in partnership with the Indian private sector.

Sources have told ET that 10 Heron TP-armed drones, which were under the procurement process since 2015, are now ready for delivery. The drones could be brought into service by India at the earliest but the final milestone payment is still pending.

Israel had displayed the Heron TP drone at the AeroIndia show in Bengaluru in February. As reported by ET on September 11, 2015, the defence ministry had quietly approved the purchase of 10 missile-armed drones from Israel for $400 million under directions from the highest levels of government.

The armed forces had proposed buying the same armed drones in 2012. But that proposal did not get political backing in UPA-2.

Similar to the Predator unmanned aerial vehicl ..

Read more at:
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/art ... aign=cppst

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Postby Karthik S » 12 Jul 2017 20:18

Have we received them yet? Also, we need to order more.

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Postby Singha » 12 Jul 2017 20:47

The deal was not signed during namo visit

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Postby disha » 12 Jul 2017 20:47

Akshay Kapoor wrote:
IndraD wrote:mean while wiki is spreading mis information by validating that bus was caught in cross fire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorist ... atra_(2017)


We should counter this. Can't a BR team of software experts correct this ? Have suggested to mods.


AK'ji., nothing to do w/ software.

All the members here can start editing wiki themselves & provide citations. Bakis are purposely whitewashing it & on this thread we are all doing #Blow2Modi

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Postby Karthik S » 12 Jul 2017 20:54

Singha wrote:The deal was not signed during namo visit


The deal was signed in 2015.

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/ ... s-4735276/

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Postby disha » 12 Jul 2017 20:58

rsingh wrote:There is a very good article in ndtv news site.I could not belive my eyes. It is about how we treat hindus in India. I have to go . If someone can put that article that would be great.it's a keeper.


rNDTV anchors can bend down & shove the above article where the sun does not shine.

rNDTV is at the forefront of treating Hindus as subalterns.

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Postby krithivas » 12 Jul 2017 21:15

No comments - From HT-India.
Amarnath terror attack: ‘Kashmiri Islamist terrorists killed Hindu pilgrims’ narrative is flawed
http://www.hindustantimes.com/analysis/ ... hxSrL.html

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Postby ramana » 12 Jul 2017 21:16

DrRatnadip wrote:http://m.timesofindia.com/india/amarnath-terror-strike-hunt-on-for-let-terrorist-abu-ismail/articleshow/59557641.cms

Amarnath terror strike: Hunt on for LeT terrorist Abu Ismail

SRINAGAR: Security forces have launched a massive hunt to track down Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT) terrorist and Pakistani national Abu Ismail, who has emerged as the mastermind of the deadly attack on Amarnath pilgrims .
Proactive operations have been launched, mainly in south Kashmir, to track down Ismail as investigations including communication intercepts have pointed out to his involvement in the attack on Amarnath pilgrims, a senior police official said.
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Lashkar has not only distanced itself from the attack on Amarnath pilgrims but also condemned the attack.
LeT spokesman Abdullah Ghaznavi, while condemning the attack
on pilgrims, has said, "It is against Islamic teachings".
"The attack on the pilgrims is highly reprehensible act. Islam does not allow violence against any faith," he said.

Why LeT is condemning this attack..???


LeT Gone for Tea.

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Postby LokeshC » 12 Jul 2017 21:21

If LET's Gone-For-Tea, then it means indirectly uniformed jeehardies have also have Gone-For-Tea. That is a language of fear (usually is Taqiya, but this one seems to be from fear).

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Postby Bart S » 12 Jul 2017 21:33

LokeshC wrote:If LET's Gone-For-Tea, then it means indirectly uniformed jeehardies have also have Gone-For-Tea. That is a language of fear (usually is Taqiya, but this one seems to be from fear).


I doubt if it is fear or anything defensive. The recent history of India has only taught them that we are a soft state lacking in ruthlessness who is content with mealy mouthed platitudes and never hits back hard enough.

Condemning the attack is basically their way of taunting us and rubbing salt in their wounds. They (ISI) recently did that after the major Afghan bombing as well.

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Postby ShauryaT » 12 Jul 2017 21:41

LeT condemning attack is part of the ISI plan to resurrect the Kashmir issue and separate it from "terrorism". So, mass or political protests, stone pelters and attacks on security forces and politicians would be claimed as part of its revolt to Indian suppression. Attacks that are not currently acceptable or sellable to Pakistan's masters will not be. TSP plan is to put pressure on India through its masters and make the violence legitimate.

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Postby ramana » 12 Jul 2017 22:16

The Doklam incident is evidence that China feels it cannot rely on Pakistanis to do the needful and they have to have direct hand.

It could by the attack on pilgrims is ISI way of showing they are relevant.

Again wait for more info to come.

All those coming up with lets bell the cat options please refrain.

This thread is about the Terrorist attack on Amarnath Yatris by Jihadis.

It has crossed a redline its not about Kashmiriyat, or azadi or any such thing. This is Islamiyat and is the seeds of ISI and has to be neutered.

All the media sitting in AC rooms and eating beef burgers in Lootyens Delhi need to be countered on SM and not just outrage here.

E.g. That moron on Hindustan Times.

I also would like RNS to fire the idiot who first put out the cross fire story from J&K police.

CRS we are not your therapy couch.
Please don't go top Paki sites and vent here.
Go vent there.

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Postby ramana » 12 Jul 2017 22:16

Rohitvats wrote

This cross-fire theory is BS of the highest standard.

In a cross-fire, the main body of the bus would've been hit. Remember, the seats in a bus are placed at a height - you need to fire at an elevated angle to hit the windows. In a cross-fire, when the two parties are firing each other, the gun is parallel to the ground or even slightly depressed (if the opponent is lying on the ground or crouching).

In this case, fire was aimed at the windows and front section (to kill the driver and stop the bus). A massacre was planned - at the expense of sounding insensitive, we got away lightly with only 7 Yatris killed.

And this was a proper, planned ambush. As already opined, bus/tourists were tracked, info passed by OGW to the hit team and bus was ambushed.

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Postby Amber G. » 12 Jul 2017 22:31

Reaction from US white house -
Strongly Condemn Cowardly Terror Attack On Amarnath Yatra Pilgrims: US
The United States today 'strongly condemned' the terror attack on Amarnath Yatra pilgrims in south Kashmir in which seven people were killed on Monday night and said "an attack on religious freedom is an attack on the most fundamental right of liberty."

In a statement, White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer said "The United States and India will continue to fight together against terrorist threats in every part of the world" while extending condolences to the victims' families. Last month, when PM Modi visited the White House in Washington, US President Donald Trump and he had struck a common note on terrorism, saying eliminating it is among the top-most priorities for the two nations.

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Postby DrRatnadip » 12 Jul 2017 22:54

http://m.timesofindia.com/india/two-pak ... 565360.cms

Two Pakistanis among 4 terrorists involved in attack on Amarnath pilgrims: Government

NEW DELHI: Four terrorists, two of them Pakistanis, are suspected to have been involved in the attack on Amarnath pilgrims in which seven devotees were killed , home ministry officials said on Wednesday.
Quoting intelligence inputs, the officials said Pakistani national and Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) commander Abu Ismail was the mastermind of Monday's attack and he was assisted by another Pakistani and two local militants

Above report says that bus stayed in shrinagar for 2 days..

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Postby Rudradev » 12 Jul 2017 23:02

ShauryaT wrote:LeT condemning attack is part of the ISI plan to resurrect the Kashmir issue and separate it from "terrorism". So, mass or political protests, stone pelters and attacks on security forces and politicians would be claimed as part of its revolt to Indian suppression. Attacks that are not currently acceptable or sellable to Pakistan's masters will not be. TSP plan is to put pressure on India through its masters and make the violence legitimate.


But then why do it, ST?

Clearly this type of attack is not saleable by ISI to Pakistan's 4 fathers. It is "bad press" amongst the international community for the Kashmiri separatist movement to be associated with the killing of completely innocent civilians on no grounds other than their religion. It immediately identifies the Kashmiri separatist cause as nothing but an ISIS/Al-Qaeda type Islamic ghazwa based on ethnic cleansing and genocide of kafirs. In fact that is why LeT is "condemning" it.

This begs the question, why did LeT do it in the first place? Why send OGWs to track the bus, communicate with the death squad of terrorists, plan and execute the ambush, if they were only going to "condemn" it afterwards to save their movement from embarrassment?

Three possibilities come to mind:

1) As A_Gupta suggested, to provoke another 2002 type communal reprisal in one or more parts of the country.

2) To shore up morale amongst the vast majority of town/city Kashmiri Muslims who are through-and-through jihadis in spirit. These people have gone out stone-pelting to provide cover for terrorists being cornered by the security forces, and yet, month after month they have seen their efforts are in vain... no significant international political support is coming in for their cause, and meanwhile the terrorists they are trying to protect keep getting dispatched relentlessly. The mentality of these pigs is such that simply spilling the blood of Hindu women and children is enough to make them gather around, watch, and laugh. So it was a little morale-boosting "victory" to provide the Kashmiri Muslim stone-pelting cadre with entertainment.

3) To play to a different audience. ISIS (and its various foreign cadres) are getting hammered in Iraq and Syria. They are scattering like roaches and need somewhere to go. Displays of mass-killing of kafirs may attract some of the dispersing ISIS cadres (and their logistical/propaganda/financial supporters) to the Kashmir theatre of terrorist operations.

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Postby Rudradev » 12 Jul 2017 23:04

A_Gupta wrote:
Rudradev wrote:1) What did the Pakis hope to gain by targeting Amarnath victims (AGupta has suggested that it was meant to provoke communal riots... is there any other possibility?)


The others I can think of are:

1. Restore terrorist recruits' flagging spirits by hitting a soft target.
2. Add more Islamic fervor to terrorist recruitment by hitting idolators.

The above two are optimistic, in that it supposes Pakistan has little success to show to the warm bodies it needs to recruit to keep the jihad going.

3. Indirectly hit at PM Modi by killing pilgrims from Gujarat, "his state".

This assumes that the terrorists are able to acquire and act on that kind of information

4. In general, Islamics' tactics are to wage a war of brutality and terror, to wear down the resistance of the opponent. This has worked very well for them, on the average, if you look at history. So another possibility is that there is no reason, except that since the killing can be done, so it will be done.

PS: you saw the Amnesty International statement about "there had better be no reprisals on civilians". The expectation that there would be reprisals is Aakar Patel/Paki thinking.


Had not seen this before. I think A_Gupta is right on the money on all points.

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Postby ramana » 12 Jul 2017 23:09

RD, I am of the mind that all Paki jihadi outfits are being morphed into ISIS in the sub-continent as TSP loses its grip on the state and is on verge of collapse. These are attacks to shore up the ISI image of these terrorist attacks.

Kashmiriyat is dead, Hurrirats are dead politically.

TSP Army/ISI wants to convert these jihadis into ISIS type as a partisan squads as TSP dissolves after the collapse.

China is interfering directly as TSP is unable to exist. At same time CPEC is for colonizing TSP as one way to bring in stability.

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Postby Singha » 12 Jul 2017 23:12

Isis has been crushed in mosul and will be crushed in syria by end of this year
They are planning a insurgent campaign in western iraqi desert and adjacent tracts of syria ksa and jordan
They are strong in egyptian sinai
They are smallish in libya so long as khalifa haftar is able to keep his boot on them
Last week they beheaded some taliban/aq in afghanistan

Word is a gcc origin emir will lead isis now that baghdadi is dead and they will try to increase focus on gcc

I am not sure the kashmir jihad so agitates others in ummah as to fight here though some spectacular success or liberated zones could draw moths to flame

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Postby IndraD » 12 Jul 2017 23:27

Jammu and Kashmir tourism minister Priya Sethi had told CNN-News18 that the attack could be one of the repercussions of Hizbul commander Burhan Wani's death anniversary this year

Srinagar: The bus which came under a fatal terror attack in which seven people were killed on Monday was travelling towards Jammu, but three pit stops led to the unfortunate tragedy, a high-level source told News18.

The bus first stopped near Pampore where tourists shopped for saffron, followed by another brief halt at Awantipura where they shopped for cricket bats. The time by then was already 7 pm, according to the source.
A flat tyre, then, forced the driver to take another pit stop, 3km before the Batingu village in Anantnag, where terrorists unleashed the assault on the pilgrims. The tyre repair caused a delay of about an hour, and sources say, this is when "some home-grown terrorists" spotted the Gujarat-registered bus.hence Pak supported terrorists have good network in Kashmir, and can strike at really short notice
A terrorist, named Ismail, immediately planned the attack and executed it at a blind spot where no security personnel were present.
http://www.news18.com/news/india/how-gu ... 59609.html

looking at the map Batingu village where this happened is close to NH44 and is also popular stoppage for dhabas.
Lack of security perhaps happened cos it was getting late in the evening, after 7 pm security is withdrawn.
Lack of coordination with Shrine board also is responsible as they had no idea this bus is plying late in evening.
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Postby IndraD » 12 Jul 2017 23:29

Singha ji
Look East: rise of Maute militancy linked to IS in Phillipines is being touted due to IS being crushed in ME and many of these fighters are returning home including West.

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Postby Akshay Kapoor » 12 Jul 2017 23:32

disha wrote:
Akshay Kapoor wrote:
We should counter this. Can't a BR team of software experts correct this ? Have suggested to mods.


AK'ji., nothing to do w/ software.

All the members here can start editing wiki themselves & provide citations. Bakis are purposely whitewashing it & on this thread we are all doing #Blow2Modi


I am happy to do so if someone tells me how. I have never done it. Guys there are lots of us on this forum. Let's do this small thing and swamp Wikipedia. Time for action. My email is akshaykapoor108@gmail.com.

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Postby Amber G. » 12 Jul 2017 23:42

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More, see eg: https://ang.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C7%A3dia:How_to_edit_a_page

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Postby ShauryaT » 12 Jul 2017 23:43

RD: On why do it. I think it is to send a message to the Indian state that even an organized and scheduled event such as the Yatra, cannot be secured by the Indian state and that Pakistan calls the shots on when and who to target and where. This is not the first time the Yatra has been targeted. The Yatra is seen to emphasize the age old Hindu claim on the land and its peoples. Instilling a state of fear on Hindus to not come near is the message.

It is also to communicate to the Indian state on the essential nature of this war, vested in 2NT. The fact that most of the attacks are indeed targeted on non-civilians and only "some" of these attacks on civilians can be explained away to its masters as aberrations but the dual messages to the Indian state and its peoples is emphasized. I am aware of the obvious contradiction but such is the nature of this game.

I will discount the communal riots theory as it can happen only outside of Kashmir and as long as IM's do not identify with the Kashmiri cause directly, reprisals are unlikely and also unlikely if a political party like the BJP and its sympathizers do not associate IM's to incidents in Kashmir. This link between Kashmir incidents and IM's has been lacking. Not saying ISI does not try but I will discount this aspect.

Some other points of A_Gupta point to emphasize the 2NT just different ways to express the underlying issue. ISIS et al are nice buzz words in the region not an established organization, it is a concept foremost and the biggest manifestation of that concept is the Islamic State of Pakistan and the biggest organized force of that concept is the Pakistan Army. We should be clear on who the target is. There will be lots of calls to do this and do that, hunt the LeT pigs, the supporters, Hurriyat etc, all that is nice but only a limited response if the mother ship the Pakistan Army is unscathed.

A strong response would be a response to the Pakistan Army and its masters.

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Postby krishna_krishna » 12 Jul 2017 23:48

I have another theory, this was carefully planned but poorly executed ambush.

The plan was to take many hostages and do another hijaking kind of drama to make it legit freedom struggle which will get some traction with 3.5 forefathers which they are badly missing after its pet got banned, also gives let chance to redeem itself which hem was doing more damage in recent times. This was lucky escape.

Time and time they are trying to get it to show that it is legitimate indegenious fever, which they have lost in recent times because once it lost they are done forever in history books no sympathy for them. Even oic and Persia are able to do anything for them politically

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Re: Amarnath Yatris killed in terror attack. Allahoakbar

Postby anupmisra » 12 Jul 2017 23:53

At the end of all this crap oozing out of the woodwork, it will be established by the libertards that the Hindu pilgrims fired on themselves. That's how dhimiis these press walahs have become.

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Postby Garooda » 12 Jul 2017 23:58

ramana wrote:Some steps to get to the end are:

1)Problem description
2)RC diagram
3)Then come counter measures to prevent recurrence or corrective action
4)Finally an action plan to get it implemented.
I'm sure its all very useful and helpful but how many times do you think the above steps were already taken by the Indian IC? We repeat again and again only to arrive back at the same place. The attacks have not stopped despite having invested in capabilities. Wohi ka wohi rona dhona chalta hai hamesha in the media and politics. Politicians promise a 'befitting response' :roll: and several 'hollow' promises. Public shout and scream for few weeks and all is well after that until it happens again and again the same cycle repeats :) The window of opportunity to amalgamate J&K with India diminishes slowly with every passing decade IMO.

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Postby saip » 13 Jul 2017 00:11

^^^^
A terrorist, named Ismail, immediately planned the attack and executed it at a blind spot where no security personnel were present.


Then where did the cross fire happen unless it happened between the terrorists themselves.

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Re: Amarnath Yatris killed in terror attack. Allahoakbar

Postby Garooda » 13 Jul 2017 00:15

Rudradev wrote:If we are done with the emotional responses we need to figure out exactly why this was done, why now.
There will always be a why, who, when, what and what not questions. How many decades do we keep repeating the same cycle of trying to understand such attacks? I agree there is a method to the madness to resolve but...We all know majority of the activities are coming from the pados.

I'm sure you read the news already. How many times this year ?Two more jawans lost lives. I guess that answers the How part ??? Prolly not.

The incident comes two days after the deadly attack in south Kashmir’s Anantnag where seven Amarnath pilgrims were killed, and 19 others injured in a militant attack. On Sunday the Pakistan army had targeted villages and forward posts along the LoC in Poonch district by resorting to heavy mortar shelling and firing automatic weapons. Officials said in June only 23 ceasefire violations, one BAT attack and two infiltration bids have been reported in which four people including three soldiers were killed and 12 others injured.

On June 22, Pakistani soldiers had carried out an attack 600 metresinside Indian territoryalong the LoC in Krishna Ghati sector of Poonch killing two Indian soldiers. Earlier on May 1, Pakistani Border Action Teams (BAT had crossed into the Indian territory near LoC in Krishan Ghati under the cover of heavy shelling and beheaded two Indian soldiers.
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Re: Amarnath Yatris killed in terror attack. Allahoakbar

Postby Bart S » 13 Jul 2017 00:17

IndraD wrote:
Jammu and Kashmir tourism minister Priya Sethi had told CNN-News18 that the attack could be one of the repercussions of Hizbul commander Burhan Wani's death anniversary this year

Srinagar: The bus which came under a fatal terror attack in which seven people were killed on Monday was travelling towards Jammu, but three pit stops led to the unfortunate tragedy, a high-level source told News18.

The bus first stopped near Pampore where tourists shopped for saffron, followed by another brief halt at Awantipura where they shopped for cricket bats. The time by then was already 7 pm, according to the source.
A flat tyre, then, forced the driver to take another pit stop, 3km before the Batingu village in Anantnag, where terrorists unleashed the assault on the pilgrims. The tyre repair caused a delay of about an hour, and sources say, this is when "some home-grown terrorists" spotted the Gujarat-registered bus.hence Pak supported terrorists have good network in Kashmir, and can strike at really short notice
A terrorist, named Ismail, immediately planned the attack and executed it at a blind spot where no security personnel were present.
http://www.news18.com/news/india/how-gu ... 59609.html

looking at the map Batingu village where this happened is close to NH44 and is also popular stoppage for dhabas.
Lack of security perhaps happened cos it was getting late in the evening, after 7 pm security is withdrawn.
Lack of coordination with Shrine board also is responsible as they had no idea this bus is plying late in evening.


Sorry, but this is unadulterated hogwash and despicable narrative that must be called out by one and all. The tragedy happened because terrorists attacked the pilgrims. That is the only relevant detail and the other minutiae is just noise and distraction at the moment.

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Re: Amarnath Yatris killed in terror attack. Allahoakbar

Postby Rudradev » 13 Jul 2017 00:22

Garooda wrote:
Rudradev wrote:If we are done with the emotional responses we need to figure out exactly why this was done, why now.
There will always be a why, who, when, what and what not questions. How many decades do we keep repeating the same cycle of trying to understand such attacks? I agree there is a method to the madness to resolve but...


"But" what?

Are you contending that it is somehow better for India NOT to understand the motivation behind a specific terrorist operation, than to understand it?

If so, can you explain how that is better?


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