Maldives Civil-Military Issues

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Re: Maldives Civil-Military Issues

Postby Ashokk » 23 Feb 2018 02:59

No valid reason to extend emergency: India to Maldives
NEW DELHI: Persisting with its displeasure over the extension of emergency in the Maldives, India said on Thursday it does not see a valid reason for the Maldivian parliament to do so and maintained that it continues to watch the situation in the island nation.
On Wednesday, India had expressed "deep dismay" over the Maldivian parliament accepting President Abdulla Yameen's recommendation to extend the state of emergency by another 30 days in a manner New Delhi dubbed as a "matter of concern".

"We do not see any valid reason for doing so. We, of course, continue to watch the situation and would continue to urge the government of Maldives to release political prisoners, release the chief justice, implement the Supreme Court order and restore the normal functions of the institutions of democracy," external affairs ministry spokesperson Raveesh Kumar said.

Kumar said that India's sincere desire is to see that democracy in the Maldives is restored and the situation resumes to normal. This is also the desire of the people of Maldives, he added.

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Postby Gagan » 23 Feb 2018 04:10

India's statements are now acquiring a more sterner tone.
This is after the meet by Nasheed with GoI and NS

Things will pick up speed now.

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Postby Philip » 23 Feb 2018 06:59

It is far better to enter into a defence and security treaty as we have with Mauritius.Let the little Maldivians run their local show democratically.They make big bucks through high-end tourism and require every bleedin' thing except fish from abroad.We'll supply the lot.No need to dirty our hands running a Muslim country and attract fundoo attention if we do it badly.

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Re: Maldives Civil-Military Issues

Postby KL Dubey » 23 Feb 2018 09:49

Philip wrote:It is far better to enter into a defence and security treaty as we have with Mauritius.Let the little Maldivians run their local show democratically.They make big bucks through high-end tourism and require every bleedin' thing except fish from abroad.We'll supply the lot.No need to dirty our hands running a Muslim country and attract fundoo attention if we do it badly.


Given what we are already dealing with in Cashmere, adding these Indian Ocean critters to the zoo will make for very little extra work.

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Postby Singha » 23 Feb 2018 12:11

i like philip sirs idea but we need to run the immigration desk both inbound and oubound and a deep learning/AI based citizens database to control who goes in or out. all are welcome but not radicals/jihadis/tabliqs/agents/provocateurs....

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Postby Pulikeshi » 23 Feb 2018 12:42

Gagan wrote:India's statements are now acquiring a more sterner tone.
This is after the meet by Nasheed with GoI and NS

Things will pick up speed now.


One of the reasons for Hindu Civilization’s longevity, has been the avoidance of using the Brahmastra on mice!
As the gorilla in the IOR - India has many more options and will pursue them :mrgreen:

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Re: Maldives Civil-Military Issues

Postby JE Menon » 23 Feb 2018 15:48

KL Dubey wrote:
Philip wrote:It is far better to enter into a defence and security treaty as we have with Mauritius.Let the little Maldivians run their local show democratically.They make big bucks through high-end tourism and require every bleedin' thing except fish from abroad.We'll supply the lot.No need to dirty our hands running a Muslim country and attract fundoo attention if we do it badly.


Given what we are already dealing with in Cashmere, adding these Indian Ocean critters to the zoo will make for very little extra work.


Yes, negligible additional exertion.

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Re: Maldives Civil-Military Issues

Postby pankajs » 23 Feb 2018 17:02

http://www.news18.com/news/world/maldiv ... 70133.html
Maldives Announces Election in September, President Abdul Yameen Welcomes Move

The government also invited all international stakeholders to observe the process and also “urged the international community to provide support and assistance in bringing back normalcy in the island nation and that they should also refrain from any actions that could hinder resolving the situation the country is facing.”

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Re: Maldives Civil-Military Issues

Postby pushkar.bhat » 23 Feb 2018 17:51

pankajs wrote:http://www.news18.com/news/world/maldives-announces-election-in-september-president-abdul-yameen-welcomes-move-1670133.html
Maldives Announces Election in September, President Abdul Yameen Welcomes Move

The government also invited all international stakeholders to observe the process and also “urged the international community to provide support and assistance in bringing back normalcy in the island nation and that they should also refrain from any actions that could hinder resolving the situation the country is facing.”


This happened the day prior to the extension of the State of Emergency. Just that the news got lost in all the noise. Despite that the announcement the moot question is if Elections can be held in a free and fair environment. Yesterday's UN Press briefing make mention of the UN Sec Gen offer to mediate between the two parties to bring normalcy. The UN Spokesperson categorically stated that the offer was turned down.

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Re: Maldives Civil-Military Issues

Postby Gagan » 23 Feb 2018 18:44

Pulikeshi wrote:
Gagan wrote:India's statements are now acquiring a more sterner tone.
This is after the meet by Nasheed with GoI and NS

Things will pick up speed now.


One of the reasons for Hindu Civilization’s longevity, has been the avoidance of using the Brahmastra on mice!
As the gorilla in the IOR - India has many more options and will pursue them :mrgreen:

Elections on schedule. If they take place, that will be a big win, for democracy.
If this crisis can be resolved without firing a bullet that will be the best outcome.
The Indian armed forces are deployed to keep everyone honest and to ensure that the will of the People of Maldives prevail - I think that will be the outcome that every one in the region will be happy with.

Yameen may have committed political hara kiri by imposing an emergency, in his last year in office. He will run for the second and final term, but I don't think that people like strong arm tactics as he as done.

Anyways, India has done some deft handling here. This will not go unnoticed around asia.

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Re: Maldives Civil-Military Issues

Postby Rudradev » 24 Feb 2018 03:53

http://www.orfonline.org/research/the-g ... abian-sea/

The game of chicken in the Arabian Sea

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In order to stall an Operation Cactus redux, Beijing would have had to signal India that it has the muscle to push Indian forces out of the Maldives if it so chooses



The ongoing crisis in the Maldives has acquired a particularly serious dimension over the past week. In that time, several reports have emerged suggesting China may be directly backing Abdulla Yameen’s decision to impose—and extend—the emergency in the small island state. These reports suggest that China has implicitly promised support to Yameen in the event that India moves to forcibly change the political status quo there. Several outlets have reported Chinese naval activity in the eastern Indian Ocean earlier this month, ostensibly to signal to India that the People’s Republic will not remain a disinterested spectator in the ongoing imbroglio in the Maldives. They suggest a chronology that is deeply disturbing, and potentially of serious consequence to the troubled India-China relationship. Coming, as it does, six months since the end of the Doklam standoff, any potential Chinese show of force in the Indian Ocean also stands to upturn India’s position as the pre-eminent power in that maritime space, as well as undo the diplomatic gains from India’s resoluteness during that crisis.

This much is known as a fact: Earlier this month, a Chinese naval surface action group (SAG) of three ships entered the eastern Indian Ocean through the Sunda Straits—thousands of nautical miles away from the waters of South Asian littorals—and having made their presence known, exited the area into the South China Sea. One of these ships was a Type 071 transport vessel which is used to land troops for an amphibious assault—of the kind one would need to land Chinese marines in event of an Indian military intervention in the Maldives, for example. The last time this Yuzhao-class ship made its presence known in the waters of the Indian Ocean was in early 2014, again entering those waters through the Sunda Straits. The 2014 People’s Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) exercise caused an international furore, with a US government report noting that the SAG was meant to signal to India that China could, at will, enter and exit a maritime theatre long considered its exclusive preserve. Notably, since then, China has desisted from deploying the amphibian in operational exercises in the eastern Indian Ocean.


The question then is about the timing and intent of the SAG deployment this time around. To wit, was this simply a pre-planned PLAN exercise, as some have suggested? Or was it related to the ongoing crisis in the Maldives? While there is no definitive way of answering this question, several facts suggest that this was indeed the latter. To begin with, the timing: it is quite possible that Yameen’s decision to impose the emergency in the Maldives was based on his impression that the tides were not favourable to him, and that the Mohamed Nasheed-led opposition was about to depose him, potentially with Indian support (do recall that the Maldives has been in New Delhi’s radar since Yameen ramrodded a China-Maldives free trade agreement through the parliament a few months ago). In that case, it is likely that he would have consulted Beijing on the future course of action. In turn, China may have deduced that the opportune moment for an Indian intervention in the Maldives—following the Operation Cactus playbook of 1988—would have been right around the time Yameen would set his counter-plan into motion. In order to stall an Operation Cactus redux, Beijing would have had to signal India that it has the muscle to push Indian forces out of the Maldives if it so chooses.

The alternative—that the SAG deployment earlier this month was a benign exercise—does not hold water, for the simple fact that absent any potential Indian show of force in the region, Beijing does not have the appetite to provoke it months after the Doklam standoff. Between the US President Donald Trump’s increasingly bellicose stance towards China—witness the new US military strategy that bluntly describes China as a military threat—and Chinese President Xi Jinping’s ambitious international outreach to hard-sell the Belt and Road Initiative, Chinese strategic calculus would suggest that Beijing would overtly signal its military might only when its immediate interests are directly threatened. In case of Yameen’s Maldives, China had the right incentive to do so.

But why would China choose to signal that it is not averse to a power-play with India over the Maldives from thousands of miles away? Would it not have been more effective for it to, say, directly dock a flotilla off the coast of Maldives? Again, the answer comes from studying Chinese naval behaviour over the past few years carefully. China has pioneered what Western experts call “grey zone coercion”: a strategy by which China seeks to meet its strategic objective without crossing its adversary’s threshold for conventional military retaliation. By choosing to message its resolve to India from a distance, Beijing ensured that India would not be provoked militarily and yet be compelled to take into account the strategic signal emanating from the east.

What then are India’s options? First, New Delhi must continue to keep up a robust presence in the Arabian Sea, to let Beijing know that regardless of the PLAN’s show of strength, India is unprepared to cede its primacy in its maritime neighbourhood. The Indian Navy must also be allowed to expand its presence operations in the South China Sea, long considered a Chinese preserve. China’s vulnerabilities in its near-seas must be taken advantage of by Indian naval planners. To counter PLAN power-projection in the Indian Ocean, the Indian Navy would need to raise the tempo of operations in littoral-South-East Asia, where Beijing cannot prove a territorial violation and yet feel the pinch of a perceived violation in its sphere of maritime influence.

Most importantly, India must have an alternative plan ready for the Maldives, just in case naval posturing does not beget an optimal solution. This does not have to involve boots on the ground. The Indian Navy must be prepared for a sustained presence around the island state, even as New Delhi ratchets up the diplomatic heat to resolve the political impasse. In the game of brinkmanship afoot in the Indian Ocean littorals, India must not be the first one to blink.

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Re: Maldives Civil-Military Issues

Postby Pulikeshi » 24 Feb 2018 06:01

Gagan wrote:Elections on schedule. If they take place, that will be a big win, for democracy.
If this crisis can be resolved without firing a bullet that will be the best outcome.
The Indian armed forces are deployed to keep everyone honest and to ensure that the will of the People of Maldives prevail - I think that will be the outcome that every one in the region will be happy with.
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Anyways, India has done some deft handling here. This will not go unnoticed around asia.


Saar - agreed onlee - had predicted that this was the direction Feb 12 or before... but all that goes unnoticed as well :mrgreen:

My two naya paisa - elections in Maldives and international pressure to get the righ candidate the right support to have
free and fair elections — All with Indian Navy on standby. Let me see if my call is right again after my call on Doklam :P

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Postby Pulikeshi » 24 Feb 2018 06:19

Rudradev wrote:What then are India’s options? First, New Delhi must continue to keep up a robust presence in the Arabian Sea, to let Beijing know that regardless of the PLAN’s show of strength, India is unprepared to cede its primacy in its maritime neighbourhood. The Indian Navy must also be allowed to expand its presence operations in the South China Sea, long considered a Chinese preserve. China’s vulnerabilities in its near-seas must be taken advantage of by Indian naval planners. To counter PLAN power-projection in the Indian Ocean, the Indian Navy would need to raise the tempo of operations in littoral-South-East Asia, where Beijing cannot prove a territorial violation and yet feel the pinch of a perceived violation in its sphere of maritime influence.

Most importantly, India must have an alternative plan ready for the Maldives, just in case naval posturing does not beget an optimal solution. This does not have to involve boots on the ground. The Indian Navy must be prepared for a sustained presence around the island state, even as New Delhi ratchets up the diplomatic heat to resolve the political impasse. In the game of brinkmanship afoot in the Indian Ocean littorals, India must not be the first one to blink.


India already has some foothold already beyond the straits of Malacca - be it Singapore, Vietnam, etc. What did Beijing really achieve? :P
Just like 1962 drove India to become nuclear (one example) -
I’d say them Gin Peg’s 36 strategyms are pissing India off to do these two things minimally:

1. Support and build up a very strong entrenched Naval presence in Lakshadweep along with making sure to complete the work needed in Seychelles.
2. Every time Chinese SAG enters the Eastern IOR - execute a pre-approved and pre-planned a) surgical strike into PoK b) Move assests towards artificial island chains in Indo-Pacific c) Fly fighter aircrafts right past to say hello

Chinese are the best blessing India has had in years - nothing like competition to get the tiger growling, leave alone roaring! :mrgreen:

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Re: Maldives Civil-Military Issues

Postby pravula » 24 Feb 2018 06:45

#c would have been a perfect response this time around.

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Re: Maldives Civil-Military Issues

Postby ramana » 24 Feb 2018 10:06

RD, In a crisis all sorts of snakes come out.

Let me assure you the PLAN was turned away long beyond its area of deployment.

Also ORF is more like a US think tank located in Delhi and paid by Motabhai.

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Re: Maldives Civil-Military Issues

Postby Philip » 24 Feb 2018 12:02

For all this to happen,we need to fist evolve our Grand Strategy,which as far as one knows,is that of the "Knee-jerk" variety! Our strategy against Pak has not worked,it's an unofficial border shooting match 24X7,365 days each yr.,with political floundering in the state of J&K principally due to the duplicity of the local leadership,which panders to the jihadis,wanting them released asap when they've been picked up for anti-national activities.Look what Turkey and the Sultan have done to the Kurdish PKK.Their leader Ocalan was arrested in '99,sentenced to death,later it was commuted to life,and he has now been in prison for 18 years.The same should be done to the duplicitous Hurriyat leadership. Incarcerate them somewhere on a crocodile infested island in the ANC wherever to rot for the rest of their traitorous lives.

But coming back to the IOR,Maldives,etc.Unless the critical needs of the IN are met immediately,and the purse strings loosened for a fleet of around 250 ;200 + is too little,so that a balanced fleet can be created that includes around 45-50 subs,16-24 LR maritime strike bombers,and dozens of missile corvettes and a strong surface fleet,with capital ships ,CBG escorts, equipped with both LR SAMs and SSMs,along with a powerful ASW package and an amphib capability to deal with any IOR crisis,we will not be able to contest China in the IOR ,who will send in repeatedly its flotillas and even permanentoly base their ships and subs operating out of Paki ports and poss. Lankan too.

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Re: Maldives Civil-Military Issues

Postby wadi1979 » 24 Feb 2018 15:13

http://www.gatewayhouse.in/chinese-inve ... -maldives/

A project that I am working on - to map Chinese economic penetration of economies in India's immediate neighborhood.

Comments/feedback appreciated.

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Re: Maldives Civil-Military Issues

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Manjeet Kripalani‏ @ManjeetKrip

Detailed map on Chinese investments in the Maldives

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Re: Maldives Civil-Military Issues

Postby KL Dubey » 27 Feb 2018 09:38

https://theprint.in/2018/02/26/is-maldives-indias-grenada-will-narendra-modi-be-indias-reagan/

The author of this is one Tunku Varadarajan (brother of Sidharth Varadarajan, a rabid anti-national). Both these fellows are foreign citizens. In that context, I wonder why Tunku is so vehement about the need for India to intervene militarily.

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Postby Philip » 27 Feb 2018 12:57

Perhaps he bats for the other side,Nasheed! There is something missing from our diplomacy,an essential ingredient called "B*lls!" Our diplomutts,keep at arms distance the military,fondly imagining that n their Nehruviam idealism,Indian "talk" is enough to "walk". Since Indira Gandhi's "realpolitik" and Rajiv G's pro-active diplomacy backed by mil power,Atalji did very well defeating Pak at Kargil,but he could've "bent" the border a little allowing us to cross over into POK,Indian territory,which our military wanted to score some important territorial acquisitions,perhaps because he was not sure about a desperate Pak considering its nuclear options.

In the Maldives,never has fruit been so low hanging.Barring China,the entire global community has been opposed to the emergency that Yameen has illegally imposed,with the EU now warning the govt. there to rescind the order,threatening sanctions.WE should've a long while ago enforced a security cordon around the island and tightened the noose.

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Postby Pratyush » 27 Feb 2018 13:08

KL Dubey wrote:https://theprint.in/2018/02/26/is-maldives-indias-grenada-will-narendra-modi-be-indias-reagan/

The author of this is one Tunku Varadarajan (brother of Sidharth Varadarajan, a rabid anti-national). Both these fellows are foreign citizens. In that context, I wonder why Tunku is so vehement about the need for India to intervene militarily.



Build a straw man's argument and then demolish it.

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Re: Maldives Civil-Military Issues

Postby harish_ch » 27 Feb 2018 20:32

Maldives declined India's invitation to take part in Milan 2018 naval exercise, says Indian Navy chief Sunil Lanba

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http://zeenews.india.com/india/maldives ... 84910.html
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Re: Maldives Civil-Military Issues

Postby Dipanker » 27 Feb 2018 20:56

harish_ch wrote:Maldives declined India's invitation to take part in Milan 2018 naval exercise, says Indian Navy chief Sunil Lanba

[url]http://zeenews.india.com/india/maldives-declined-indias-invitation-to-take-part-in-milan-2018-naval-exercise-says-indian-navy-chief-sunil-lanba-2084910.html
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Why was this invitation extended in first place?? Whose idea was this??

Read the riot acts and send in the troops. Announce and hold a GE, restore democracy. Job done. Shows who is the boss in this neck of woods.

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Re: Maldives Civil-Military Issues

Postby vanand » 27 Feb 2018 22:47

Why need to send troops, just put a travel advisory for indians not to visit Maldives


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Re: Maldives Civil-Military Issues

Postby kit » 28 Feb 2018 02:42

one feels some in Maldives are getting loads of moolah for playing upto the Chinese .. they need to be hurt where it matters .. follow the money ..

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Postby Singha » 28 Feb 2018 08:48

vanand wrote:Why need to send troops, just put a travel advisory for indians not to visit Maldives


thats the mentality which let the arabs creep in and take over AfPak - a mix of hindu and buddhist kingdoms.

avoiding confronting a problem, and trying to hide it under a rug hoping it will resolve on its own its ok for a minor stomach ailment or cough n cold, not geopolitics. you vacate some space and someone else will occupy it and use it as the next launchpad to grab more of what was your domain.

what started at Kandahar ended in the sacking of Madurai by malik kafur :roll:

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Postby shiv » 28 Feb 2018 09:21

Excyoose my language - but does anyone have any information that the people in the Maldives who are alternatives to Yameen are not chutiyas of equal rank with Yameen. I mean Maldives looks like a useless country - a bunch of Islands where the control of one Island cannot be extended to the next. I mean - does the Maldives navy have as many boats/ships as it has Islands? Who is going to exercise sovereignty over the whole set?

Let me phrase the same question in two ways - knowing that only one will appeal to a lot of people

Version A. If India takes "control" of Male how will we impose control on other Islands if China decides that some Island is theirs

Version B: If China takes "control" of Male how will they impose control on other Islands if India decides that some Island is ours

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Re: Maldives Civil-Military Issues

Postby ShauryaT » 28 Feb 2018 12:16

Shiv ji: A little OT but in all honesty, our own CG has to be strengthened (WIP). Until 2008, we did not have enough of a policing presence to patrol the sensitive North Indian coast leading to the spectacular failures of 2008. We did not have assets and forces to even enforce patrols to Lakshadweep. Post-2008 some increased focus is in place but some ways to go.

We do not need to send forces until some external power tries to force the issue. Best to find our own SOB in that place to govern. Need to up our economic engagement with these places to keep them not go out looking for out of region strategic deals. Need diplomatic prowess backed by economic and political engagement to not let things come to such a pass that we have to deal with external powers with strategic interests in our near abroad. I so wish we had an indigenous MIC, makes much easier to control through liaisons with the militaries of these littoral/island states.

As for sovereignty, it is quite clear that very few nations have the heft to wield it independently. The best thing for those who cannot is to "ally" with someone who best serves their interests. The science of the game of power should be clear to a nation with a claim to worlds oldest and largest treatise on it. The issue is very few read it and our traditional gurus no longer teach it as a treatise on artha and shastra, where lessons on niti and the dharma of a nation and its rulers could not be more clear.

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Postby Philip » 28 Feb 2018 12:36

The Maldives have more seaplane taxis at Male (dozens) than we'll ever get under Mr,Gadkari who wants thousands! All other small craft carry tourists (apart from the seaplanes) and act as ferries island hopping. There are some luxurious pvt. yachts too .But the airport and Male are the two imp. places which must be first sanitised.Others will follow

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Re: Maldives Civil-Military Issues

Postby deejay » 28 Feb 2018 13:03

Phillip Sir Spice JEt has already ordered 20 sea planes and there are plans for another 80 at least. In addition we already have 3-4 planes in operations.

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Postby vanand » 28 Feb 2018 13:13

Singha wrote:
vanand wrote:Why need to send troops, just put a travel advisory for indians not to visit Maldives


thats the mentality which let the arabs creep in and take over AfPak - a mix of hindu and buddhist kingdoms.

avoiding confronting a problem, and trying to hide it under a rug hoping it will resolve on its own its ok for a minor stomach ailment or cough n cold, not geopolitics. you vacate some space and someone else will occupy it and use it as the next launchpad to grab more of what was your domain.

what started at Kandahar ended in the sacking of Madurai by malik kafur :roll:


Singha Ji Sorry for not elaborating my point, since my point already put forward by many senior members so I opted to not elaborate, 2017 alone 83000 Indian visited that country. If GOI put a travel advisory, having nothing but tourism there will a domino effect on that country's economy, the country recently legalized local inhabitants participation in the industry . A travel advisory by country like India will mean many I want to hit them where it hurts.

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Postby abhijitm » 28 Feb 2018 13:27

^^ and that will allow consolidation of inhabitants against India for directly impacting their bread and butter. They will also immediately look for other avenues. Sure, they will suffer but will they surrender?

How will you react when someone put sanctions on you?

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Postby chetak » 28 Feb 2018 13:40

abhijitm wrote:^^ and that will allow consolidation of inhabitants against India for directly impacting their bread and butter. They will also immediately look for other avenues. Sure, they will suffer but will they surrender?

How will you react when someone put sanctions on you?



as opposed to being used by these islamics, and then once again, be thrown away like toilet paper. ??

How many time do we need to be buggered to learn a simple lesson??

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Postby abhijitm » 28 Feb 2018 13:53

There is no way we can play financial game here. China will out muscle us. We need to show hammer to these blackmailers maldives politicians, and call China bluff. If they mess up with our interest then there is no mai ka laal who will come to save their a$$. And that's the message needs to go.

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Re: Maldives Civil-Military Issues

Postby chetak » 28 Feb 2018 15:02

abhijitm wrote:There is no way we can play financial game here. China will out muscle us. We need to show hammer to these blackmailers maldives politicians, and call China bluff. If they mess up with our interest then there is no mai ka laal who will come to save their a$$. And that's the message needs to go.


We know what we cannot do.

There seems to be a lot of confusion about just what we can do.

the islamics are swayed also by economic power and not merely by military power alone.

why would they need us now?? there are very comfortably in bed with both the saudis and the cheenis.

They will come running to us only when the waters start to rise and we will gladly accept them, just like we will accept the beedis who will also be in a similar predicament because that's who we are : a foolish people who never read history.

the saudis will never accept them and the maldivians would not like to settle in cheeni land.

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Re: Maldives Civil-Military Issues

Postby panduranghari » 28 Feb 2018 15:14

wadi1979 wrote:http://www.gatewayhouse.in/chinese-investments-in-the-maldives/

A project that I am working on - to map Chinese economic penetration of economies in India's immediate neighborhood.

Comments/feedback appreciated.


Saar,

How does this compare to Japanese investments in European-America in the late 80's? There was a threat expressed then about Japanese like it is today for Chinese. Yes Japanese never intended to upend international institutions- perhaps 1945 made them subservient- like China has stated it wishes to since Jinping has taken over in 2012.

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Re: Maldives Civil-Military Issues

Postby pankajs » 28 Feb 2018 15:56

http://www.thehindu.com/news/internatio ... 870276.ece
Gayoom’s daughter resigns as Minister
“Today, at this time of pain and crisis for both my family and my country, it is my sincere hope to see my father home at the earliest,” said Ms. Maumoon, who becomes the second Minister to resign from Mr. Yameen’s ruling party since the crisis began on February 1. “I therefore call upon the international community to support the Maldivian people...” she said.

Meanwhile, the police arrested at least another four Opposition members, who had defied a police order to stop protesting after 10.30 p.m. local time late on Monday.

The Maldivian Democratic Party said on Twitter that police had arrested Mohamed Ameeth and Abdulla Ahmed, two lawmakers who had defected from Mr. Yameen’s party, and two more from other Opposition parties late on Monday.

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Re: Maldives Civil-Military Issues

Postby Singha » 28 Feb 2018 16:23

indonesia has 6000 islands...phillipines has their share...these are ruled by jakarta and manila...if fitfully in the outer rim with all manner of people traffickers, smugglers, gun runners, drug cultivators holding sway...but these are lush volcanic habitable islands unlike atolls of the maldives. there is no topsoil in the maldives...I doubt any real agriculture can be done......fish, crab and shrimp are about the only thing that will be free to catch...and coconuts maybe but thats a poor sub for rice n wheat.....

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Re: Maldives Civil-Military Issues

Postby shiv » 28 Feb 2018 17:23

Maldives gets cereals mainly from India. Maybe veg as well, but wotzisname Nasheed won't get hungry or constipated if we hold off this stuff. Does anyone have credible information that a small spl forces detachment is not sitting pretty on one of the 1200 odd Islands, sipping coconut water wearing lungis?


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