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Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017

Postby kancha » 04 Dec 2017 19:33

@DunyaNews

Habib Bank reports to FIA and SBP as hackers draw over Rs 10 million from ATM machines from across the country. Hackers reportedly belong to China.

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Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017

Postby yensoy » 04 Dec 2017 19:39

SSridhar wrote:Will find common ground to work together with Pakistan in fight against terror: Jim Mattis - The Hindu

This 'common ground' business is an ominous sign for India. Clearly, 'common ground' involves only terrorists targetting Afghanistan. True, India has to solve its own problems and the US cannot intercede on India's behalf. But, truth be told and let's be practical. The US *has been involved as a mediator* since at least July 4, 1999, however much we deny that. It is the US which is now nudging India to open a dialogue and the back channel seems once again activated.


Sure, and what's new in all this? Some points:
1. While it is true that US is mostly only interested in Afghan border and cross-border terrorism into Afghanistan, the fact is that terrorism, like water, exerts pressure equally in all directions. I see very little scope for the Pakis to rein in bad terror while continuing good terror. That has never worked and never will.
2. I hope that our Tigers are more than able to keep the Western border of Pak alive and hot. The possibility of peaceful accommodation with Afghanistan should remain a dream for the Pakis, forever. It's not hard to do, just keep reminding the Afghans of whom they have for a neighbour.
3. News of Charbahar must certainly be upsetting Unkil. Unkil understands the reality of our geography and how Charbahar fits in with our interests. But we need to do some heavy lobbying to show Unkil the value that Charbahar brings to their own war by providing an alternate route which can bypass the Pakis.

What really can we talk about with the Pakis at this stage? Nawaz is out so no push for trade. No cricket. No soft border or peace overtures for Kashmiris. There is no active war going on besides infiltration under cover of fire, BAT actions and our reactions - none of that is going to stop due to the DNA of the Pakfauj. We need to continue to build our defenses for the long haul and watch that excuse of a country implode under its own weight and the weight of the Chinese loans.

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Terms of Faizabad agreement 'cannot be legally justified', says IHC - DAWN


Well, the parentage of half of Pakistan cannot be legally justified, yet they exist. Atomi koowat has agreed to Tehreek-i-nalaik's demands, you think some judges are going to stick their necks into this matter?

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Terroristan - 29 September 2017

Postby Peregrine » 04 Dec 2017 20:19

Economic performance in 4-year report card, failing grade for PML-N

ISLAMABAD : The Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) promised much in its election manifesto but delivered little in terms of economic performance.

The gap between what was said and what was done has pushed the country into a deep debt trap, increased income inequality, and an increasing number of question marks hovering over the economic outlook.

Foreign investors are concerned by macroeconomic indicators, and the possibility of Pakistan needing another bailout is much more real than ever before.

Barring progress on the pace of inflation and increasing national output, which grew from 3.7 per cent to 5.3 per cent in four years, the government’s performance remained questionable on all economic fronts. Even the annual economic growth of 5.3 per cent in the fiscal year 2016-17 was the result of growth in the services sector, which is not labour intensive.

In its election manifesto, the government had promised to increase the economic growth rate to 6 per cent by the end of the fourth year, and 7 per cent by June 2018.

According to a report from the International Food Policy Research Institute, Pakistan remains near the bottom of the Global Hunger Index, standing at 106 among 119 developing countries ranked.

In June 2013, the official unemployment rate in the country was 6.24 per cent, but due to growing joblessness, the government has not announced unemployment figures for the last two fiscal years, showed a State Bank of Pakistan report.

The literacy rate, which was 60 per cent in 2013, actually slipped to 58 per cent in June 2016. Figures for the current year have not been released yet. Health expenditure, which stood at a meagre 0.56 per cent of total national output in 2013, has been decreased even further to 0.46 per cent in June 2017, according to the SBP’s annual report on the state of the economy.
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In its latest report, which covered the four-year economic performance of the PML-N, the Policy Research Institute of Market Economy (PRIME) noted that the incumbent government has failed to fully implement its election manifesto on the economic front and has achieved just six of its 89 announced goals.

According to the report, progress has been reversed on the elimination of VIP culture by reducing expenses on the Prime Minister’s office and the Presidency, appointing independent professional boards of state-owned entities, eliminating circular debt, and notifying the tariffs determined by the National Electric Power Regulatory Authority.

Even in areas where it had initially shown some progress, performance deteriorated during the January-June 2017 period, says the report from the Islamabad-based, independent think tank.

Growing debt burden

Former finance minister Ishaq Dar claimed that Pakistan’s economy had turned around and the country did not need another International Monetary Fund (IMF) bailout. However, the situation has already worsened. From July through October of this fiscal year, the federal government has obtained $2.3 billion in foreign loans, including $1.02 billion in commercial loans.

A team of Finance Ministry and SBP officials is already in the United States to raise between $2 billion and $3 billion from the debt markets by floating sovereign bonds aimed at creating some space till the time a new programme is negotiated with the IMF, sources said.

The country’s official foreign currency reserves, which peaked to $19 billion, slid on the back of foreign borrowings to $13.54 billion as of November 17, barely enough to finance two-and-a-half months of imports.

The federal government consumed a significant amount of foreign currency reserves to manage the rupee-dollar exchange rate parity while turning down proposals to let the currency devalue to its ‘real value’ of around Rs118 to a dollar. The current parity is Rs105.4 per dollar.
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The biggest criticism against the incumbent government, however, is the massive increase in external debt and liabilities, which have increased to $83 billion as of June 2017. In June 2013, a few weeks after the PML-N government came into power, external debt and liabilities stood at $61 billion.

The government is also accused of twice amending the Fiscal Responsibility and Debt Limitation Act of 2005 in an effort to understate the growing debt burden. Against the total debt of Rs15.56 trillion in June 2013, the country’s total debt has now increased to Rs24 trillion, which is equal to 75.3 per cent of the GDP and far above the ‘safe’ threshold.

Since the government has not been able to enhance exports and attract significant foreign direct investment, the external sector has remained under pressure. In June 2013, the current account deficit – the gap between external receivables and payments – was $2.5 billion or 1.1 per cent of the GDP. The government closed the fiscal year 2016-17 at a record deficit of $12.1 billion, equal to 4 per cent of the GDP.

That record is likely to be short lived, as the government has already booked a $5-billion current account deficit during the July-October period.

Exports, which stood at $24.5 billion in June 2013, have decreased to $20.42 billion as of June 2017, according to the SBP annual report.

Poor fiscal performance

In June 2013, the country had booked Rs1.834 trillion as its budget deficit, equal to 8.2 per cent of GDP. This figure was inclusive of the Rs480-billion circular debt payment the PML-N government cleared after coming into power, but booked in the last year of the PPP tenure.

However, at the end of the fiscal year 2016-17, the budget deficit widened to a record Rs1.864 trillion, excluding Rs800 billion as circular debt. In terms of GDP, the 2016-17 budget deficit was equal to 5.8 per cent of GDP, which was far higher than the 4.1per cent limit approved by parliament. After including the impact of unsettled circular debt, the budget deficit as a percentage of GDP would increase to the same level in the last fiscal year that the county witnessed in 2013.
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The extremely poor position of the fiscal and external fronts belies the official claims of turning around the economy. Instead, the worsening situation forced the chief of army staff to give a wakeup call to the government. The army chief warned the authorities about the “sky-high debt” and “abysmally low tax base”.

In June 2013, the FBR’s tax-to-GDP ratio was 8.7 per cent, which increased to 10.5 per cent in 2016-17, but remained far below the government’s target of 15 per cent. In absolute terms, the FBR’s tax collection increased from Rs1.946 trillion to Rs3.361 trillion due to the imposition of roughly Rs1.4 trillion in new taxes.

The government also failed to meet its promise of rationalising sales tax by ensuring standard rates for all items.

Nawaz tells party MPs to improve performance

In fact, a recent World Bank report suggests that Pakistan is losing Rs3.2 trillion in revenue every year due to weak tax compliance and enforcement.

Core macroeconomic indicators remain disappointing

The government failed to show notable progress on the two most critical macroeconomic areas – investment and national savings. The investment-to-GDP ratio inched up from 15 per cent in June 2013 to 15.8 per cent four years later. It was well below the government’s targets, and Dar would conveniently fail to bring it up.
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The PML-N always boasts of promoting private investment in the country — a claim far from reality. In June 2013, private sector investment was 9.8 per cent of GDP. At the end of June 2017, it stood at 9.9 per cent, according to the SBP report.

The same is the case with national savings. In June 2013, Gross National Savings as a percentage of GDP was 13.9 per cent, which actually decreased to 13.1 per cent in June 2017.

PSEs’ performance

Another poorly managed area was the functioning of Public Sector Enterprises. The PML-N government claimed that it would privatise all loss-making enterprises and reduce their losses. The numbers tell a different story.

In June 2013, the PSEs’ debt and liabilities were Rs495 billion. By June 2017, they had rocketed up to Rs1.107 trillion, according to the SBP annual report. There was a net 123 per cent increase in PSEs’ losses in just four years. This was primarily because the government did not settle the circular debt and parked huge sums outside the budget.

In the energy sector, the government was unable to reform Nepra. Likewise, reforms could not be introduced in power distribution and generation companies. These entities kept causing heavy losses, which the government tried to cover by charging various surcharges from consumers.
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The PML-N also failed to meet its election promise of permanently eliminating circular debt, which has piled up to Rs400 billion. By including the stock of debt that is parked in a holding company, the total circular debt would jump to Rs800 billion.

The government somehow managed to build the confidence of the private sector, but it was still not up to the mark. The two components where it performed well were infrastructure building and creating job opportunities.

There was no development on the goals of converting at least 50 per cent of remittances from overseas Pakistanis into investments and reforming tariffs to eliminate anti-export bias. The PML-N could not establish an equity fund to facilitate investment from the private and public sectors. It also could not fulfil its promise to tax all income, including agriculture income, and failed to reduce the number of federal and provincial taxes, according to PRIME.

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Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017

Postby SSridhar » 04 Dec 2017 21:23

Falijee wrote:" Mother Hen" Mazari, "protecting" her stray flock

Karachi_Post Retweeted
Shireen Mazari‏ @ShireenMazari1

Shameful how Brig Tariq Izaz decided to respond to my daughter's comments by posting a filthy video falsely claiming it to be of her on his friends' Facebook accts! In fact it bore no resemblance to her but pathetic to see how he cldnt give counter arguments[/color]

Now, now, don't we some contradictions here?

Two things.

The mother hen initially said that though she didn't agree with what her daughter had posted, she had a right to do so because she was entitled to her own views. The response has come now, whether she likes it or not.

Secondly, like all jihadis who are 'pure' only so long as they do not come across a 'purer' and more distilled form of jihadis, Ms. Mazari should now know that she could not continue to defend the PA/ISI which is full of Brig. Tariq Izaz types. When it boomerangs, it is painful, isn't it?

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Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017

Postby RCase » 05 Dec 2017 00:28

Hari Seldon wrote:Terroristan gubmint advisory in Yawn(?) on the ills of web based FoE.

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Derogatory remarks agains Holy Personalities (up to 3 years)
Outrage religious feelings (Malsi) ( up to 10 yrs)
Defiling copy of HoKo (word of Allah) (Life)
Derogatory remarks against PBUH (DEATH/LIFE)

So going up the magnitude of punishment, the hierarchy in Pakistan is:
Holy Personalities < Malsi < Allah < PBUH :D

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Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017

Postby anupmisra » 05 Dec 2017 01:59

Questions raised as Peshawar attack footage shows civilians helping attackers

The deadly attack at the Agriculture Training Institute (ATI) in Peshawar on Friday morning and the subsequent release of a video footage released by the TTP’s Umar Media has raised serious questions whether or not the attack was an inside job as some civilians can be seen helping the attackers make their way into various rooms and offices.
The footage shows that two persons guided the terrorists
One could also hear the screams of the victims of the terrorists who raised slogans of ‘Allah-o-Akbar’ several times during the attack.
None of the guides was seen carrying any weapon and neither were they among those killed by law enforcers
A police officer investigating the incident said that it cannot be ruled out that a fourth accomplice of the attackers might have fled.
When contacted, defence analyst Lt General (retd) Amjad Shoaib said that apparently, it seems as if there were some sympathisers of the terrorists who were seen guiding them. “We can’t say for sure whether or not it was an inside job. But yes, there are some people in the footage seen guiding the terrorists,” he said


https://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2017/1 ... attackers/

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Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017

Postby Falijee » 05 Dec 2017 02:09

"Sifarish System" Working "Well And Fine" In Pakiland - As Predicted In A Previous Posting :mrgreen:

Karachi Sea View killing case: Prime suspect given VIP treatment at police station

KARACHI – The prime suspect in the Sea View killing case has been given VIP treatment at the Sea View police station in Karachi.
Khawar Burney allegedly shot dead an 18-year-old college student following a road rage accident in the city’s Defence Phase VIII area on Sunday, reports Express News today. He is the son of Ishtiaq Burney, an influential player in Karachi’s automotive industry. So, due to his status, he probably avoided the "third degree" . His detention will probably be short-lived with probably "home cooked" or "hotel catered" meals served to him in the cell !
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The Judicial Magistrate (South), earlier today, gave a two-day physical remand of the Khawar suspect in the case, who was arrested on charges of murder and attempted murder.In a video statement, Burney said that he opened fire on the Mercedes after the car hit his Vigo. “I wanted to aim at the tyre but the Mercedes turned and the bullets hit the car,” he said.“Everything happened accidentally,” Burney added. Father will contact "some influential friends" and "demand necessary action" in return for past or future favours done to the politico or bureaucrat !
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According to the police, Khawar and his accomplices opened fire on a car for not stopping after a collision with another motorcyclist. College student Zafar, 18, was killed while another injured.In a recently-surfaced CCTV video, the prime suspect and his accomplices can be seen speeding away after the murder. [color=#0000FF]A common thing in Pakistan !!

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Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017

Postby Falijee » 05 Dec 2017 02:26

Battle Of The Two Pathans. ( Although for all practical purposes, one is a Pakjabi pretending to be a Pathan :mrgreen: )

Ayesha Gulalai to contest election against Imran Khan

LAHORE – Former PTI leader MNA Ayesha Gulalai has announced to contest next elections against Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf Chairman Imran Khan.
Addressing a press conference at Lahore Press Club here Monday, Gulalai said, “I don’t need a ticket of any party for contesting elections. I will announce my future course of action in three to four months.”Neither Imran Khan nor Asif Ali Zardari and Nawaz Sharif are good for Pakistan, former PTI leader remarked. It is not fair to lump Dus Percenti and Ganja in the Category Of Sexual Harassers with Immy Khan :mrgreen:
Earlier, the estranged PTI MNA Ayesha Gulalai had been hinted at forming a splinter group of disgruntled members of the party. “The people who Imran Khan tried to get out of his way are ready to carry the party forward under my leadership,” she said. She had maintained that some PTI MNAs and MPAs were in touch with her for this purpose. Hell hath no fury like a (Pathani ) women scorned. Lesson for the future for Imran Khan !!!
On August this year, Gulalai had accused the PTI chief and his ‘gang’ of sending ‘lewd’ text messages to women workers, saying they were constantly harassed within the party. Hope Immy did not "share" Gulalai's mobile number to such luminaries as Samiul Haq of Akora Khattack and "Randibaaz Rashid , who are his "fast friends" !
According to the disgruntled lawmaker, victims of harassment in Pakistan were not listened to unless they commit suicide or take a similar adverse step to get themselves noticed.The PTI Chief Imran Khan had dismissed the allegations and written a letter to the National Assembly speaker seeking the termination of Gulalai’s parliament membership. Just as he had "dismissed" the allegations that were levied against him of siring a child out of wedlock with Sita White :D

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Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017

Postby Falijee » 05 Dec 2017 02:33

Mantra Of "Broken Record" Being Played Again For Mattis !

No terrorist safe havens in Pakistan: PM Abbasi tells Gen Mattis
ISLAMABAD – Pakistan has emphatically stated that there are no terrorist safe havens in Pakistan and the entire nation is committed to its resolve of eradicating terrorism once and for all in all its forms and manifestations. POTUS is not "buying" that !!!

Recalling the longstanding relationship with the United States, Prime Minister Abbasi underlined the need for a broad-based engagement to strengthen partnership and enhance cooperation between the two countries.
“The secretary reiterated that Pakistan must redouble its efforts to confront militants and terrorists operating within the country,” it added. As long as US is dependent on Pakistan for supply route to landlocked Afghanistan, Pakistan will continue its present policy !!!

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Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017

Postby anupmisra » 05 Dec 2017 02:47

Falijee wrote:Mantra Of "Broken Record" Being Played Again For Mattis !

No terrorist safe havens in Pakistan: PM Abbasi tells Gen Mattis


Technically, the mid-level peon is right. There is no haven (a harbor or port or shelter) in bakistan that is safe from terrorists.

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Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017

Postby RCase » 05 Dec 2017 05:31

anupmisra wrote:
Falijee wrote:Mantra Of "Broken Record" Being Played Again For Mattis !

No terrorist safe havens in Pakistan: PM Abbasi tells Gen Mattis


Technically, the mid-level peon is right. There is no haven (a harbor or port or shelter) in bakistan that is safe from terrorists.

You don't need special safe havens when terrorists infest the whole country! :)

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Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017

Postby Falijee » 05 Dec 2017 05:47

US Defence Secretary holds high key, low tone meeting with Army Chief in GHQ

Have come across high key - low key. And low tone - high tone.
But WTF is high key-low tone :roll: . Euphemism for "frank and honest discussions". Or more likely Pakis "called upon the carpet" by Mattis :mrgreen:

PS Read the farticle and the syrupy language used to describe the talks :mrgreen:

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Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017

Postby SSridhar » 05 Dec 2017 07:26

From the above,
US Secretary of Defence assured that US is ready to play its role in addressing Pakistan’s legitimate concerns, saying that his aim is not to make demands but find common grounds to work together.

COAS appreciated the dignitary’s understanding of the underlying issues and said that Pakistan does not require anything from US but understanding.


First of all, the US Defence Secretary is holding talks with the Army Chief, not the civilian Government of Pakistan. Nothing unusual about that. This is how the PA derives its legitimacy. Thus, the high-church US support for democracy in all corners of the world, especially Pakistan, remains exposed since 1958.
  • Pakistan's 'legitimate concern', as the whole world knows, is India
  • 'The US is ready to play its role' is the offer by Mattis to mediate, a demand that Pakistan always placed with the US
  • The COAS's appreciation of Gen. Mattis' understanding of the 'underlying issues' means that Gen. Bajwa read out a litany of woes against India and the US Defence Secretary nodded giving Gen. Bajwa a feeling of satisfaction that he has understood, all over again.
  • But, Gen. Bajwa also played very smart, rejecting the offer of 'mediation' when he claimed that all that Pakistan needed was just 'US understanding. Now, if Gen. Mattis was hoping to use 'mediation' as a bait to demand something from Pakistan, that was busted right there. Gen. Mattis had declared, before the talks, not to be 'combative' and therefore there is a possibility that he went back empty-handed

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Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017

Postby SSridhar » 05 Dec 2017 08:12

Pakistan foreign minister writes to Sushma to end 'ceasefire violations' - Sachin Parashar, ToI

There have been enough indicators already that the disproportionate retaliation and pro-active response have been hurting Pakistan deeply and badly. This is a confirmation of that as Pakistan pleads to stop the firing. But, the fact is also that Terroristan will re-start the border violations once we cease firing. They cannot change their DNA. So, we must continue the pressure increase the pressure a few notches.

Pakistan foreign minister Khawaja Asif has written to his Indian counterpart Sushma Swaraj seeking to bring down the number of incidents of ceasefire violations across LoC and International Boundary (IB), sources here told TOI.

The letter from Asif, which was delivered to Swaraj last week, stated that it was high time the two countries worked to end these violations as these had also led to a large number of civilians casualties. Asif reiterated Pakistan's position in the letter that Indian troops were the aggressors and that Pakistan forces were only retaliating.

While Swaraj is yet to respond to the letter, sources here said Pakistan's contention was difficult to digest as the government's figures clearly showed that the number of ceasefire violations cause by Pakistan's troops had increased significantly in 2017.

According to home ministry data, Pakistan violated ceasefire 724 times along IB and LoC until October this year. The figure for such violations for the entire last year was 449. Twelve Indian civilians and 17 security personnel were killed in the firing from across the border until October, the same set of data said.

India is currently awaiting a sovereign guarantee from Pakistan meant to ensure the safety of alleged Indian spy Kulbhushan Jadhav's family members who want to visit Pakistan to see him. Pakistan recently offered to allow his wife to meet him but India has demanded that his mother too be allowed to visit Jadhav. There was no mention of the Jadhav case in the letter though, sources here said.

Indian officials do not see the letter yet as a possible "ice-breaker" between Asif and Swaraj which could lead to some form of substantive engagement between the two countries. India believes that the recent release of JuD chief and Mumbai attacks mastermind Hafiz Saeed has only further diminished any possibility of any thaw in relations.

Swaraj and Pakistan PM Shahid Abbasi were together at the SCO summit in Sochi last week but neither side proposed any meeting between the two leaders.

Pakistan has repeatedly summoned India's envoy in Islamabad in the past few months claiming that ceasefire violations by India are a threat to regional peace and security and may lead to "a strategic miscalculation". In his letter to Swaraj, Asif quoted Pakistan's figures to highlight the alleged ceasefire violations by India. Islamabad claims that Indian troops have been responsible for over 1300 violations this year and had caused the death of 52 civilians.

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Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017

Postby anupmisra » 05 Dec 2017 08:21

Cross posting from SeePak dhaga.

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Three CPEC projects hit snags as China mulls new financing rules

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Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017

Postby arun » 05 Dec 2017 09:05

arun wrote:Extract dealing with what the US Secretary of Defense General James Mattis (Retd) had to say of the Mohammadden Terrorism Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan just prior to his visit there.

Gen. Mattis dodges responding to a question on what leverage the US can bring to bear to bring its Major Non NATO Ally to heel.

News Transcript
Media Availability with Secretary Mattis En Route to Egypt
Press Operations
Dec. 1, 2017 ………………………………

Q: On Pakistan, General Nicholson said, recently, that nothing has changed with Pakistan, in regards to the new South Asia strategy. Were there some steps that you are looking for Pakistan to do, to help with Afghanistan...

SEC. MATTIS: In Afghanistan, we have heard from Pakistan leaders that they do not support terrorism. So I expect to see that sort of action reflected in their policies. They have said that they do not support havens for any terrorists, and Pakistan has taken significant casualties -- both innocent people and their army -- significant casualties from them. So we expect them to act in their own best interest, and in support of peace and regional stability. …………………….

Q: So on Pakistan -- on Pakistan, this has been going on a decade. You've been trying to get -- you -- the United States has been trying to get more cooperation into FATA on the borders. What leverage do you have, 10 years into this, to force compliance?

SEC. MATTIS: What was the last one?

Q: What -- what leverage do you have? You've cut off, like, $600 million to their coalition support fund in the last two years. You've got another $400 million being reviewed. What leverage do you have to compel them to act beyond what they’ve already done?

SEC. MATTIS: Tony, as I said earlier, they -- they have had many of their innocent people killed. They've had many of their soldiers killed and wounded. And the bottom line is that Pakistan has to act in its own best interest. They know this. In many cases, they are. But what we're looking for is to broaden the common ground and make certain that no terrorist organization is seen as able to operate from a haven there.

There's plenty of things our two countries do together, there's plenty of things the international community and many other nations do with them. And remember that 39 nations have their troops on the ground in Afghanistan, fighting this enemy. And those are 39 very important nations. If you look at their -- their roles on the world stage, their economies, their military capabilities.

So we're looking to make common cause with them. There's plenty of -- of collaborative areas, right now, still in effect. There's been some areas that have -- we have lost over the years, because of -- of disagreements about what we need to do. So this is an effort by the new -- by the American administration, to go in and set the conditions for future collaboration that leads to reconciliation in Afghanistan and a denial of safe havens for any terrorist group that would attack anyone in the region or elsewhere in the world, which a number of countries have suffered from.

Let's -- let's go to off the record, now, OK? Because I really do have to leave here in just a couple of minutes.


From the US DoD website:

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Extract from transcript of another Q&A session of US Defence Secretary General James Mattis (Retd) dealing with the Mohammadden Terrorism Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan while enroute to that place. The US continues to appear to be rather diffident about tackling the duplicitous behaviour of their Major Non NATO Ally the Mohammadden Terrorism Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan:

Press Gaggle with Secretary Mattis En Route to Kuwait

Press Operations
Secretary of Defense James N. Mattis
Dec. 3, 2017 ……………………..

Q: Well, let me just -- I wanted to ask you a little bit about Pakistan since you're going there tomorrow. You touched on it briefly on -- when you talked to us on our way out, but as you get ready to go there tomorrow, are you going to ask the Pakistanis for anything specific? Do they have to do anything specific in there to help counter the safe havens?

SEC. MATTIS: The first thing I'm going to do is do some listening, like I always do. My goal is to find common ground. We know we have some common ground. They have lost hundreds, thousands of their troops killed and wounded by terrorists. They have lost hundreds, thousands of their innocent people murdered and wounded by terrorists, so we know that there is common ground. There is common ground between Afghanistan and Pakistan, because there are terrorist groups that try to move back and forth, that do move back and forth in order to live in one and attack in the other, that sort of thing.

So we know there's common ground; it's how much more common ground can we find by listening to one another without being combative with one another, listening to others perspective, but at the same time, as General Bajwa has said, he wants no havens for terrorists anywhere, so we will work together and we'll find that common ground, if we have the will to. And then we'll work on how we address the problems where we can work together.

Q: Are you going to prod them, though, to more on the border to step up...

SEC. MATTIS: That's not the way I deal with issues. I believe that we work hard on finding the common ground, and then we work together, so that's the approach I want to take.

Q: If I could just follow up, and this was asked yesterday as well, but why you think you can be successful, when all of your predecessors have failed over the past 16 years to change Pakistan's behavior?

SEC. MATTIS: Yes, I wouldn't characterize everything over the past 16 years as failures. There is clearly an abundance of areas where we have to double down, and I am optimistic at this point that because of what our adversaries, our mutual enemies are doing, that we can find ways to work together.

Q: What do you mean by double down, what kind of areas? What exactly does that mean?


SEC. MATTIS: I think it's very clear. As I said, both Pakistan and Afghanistan, the Pakistan military, the NATO-led militaries of 39 nations have all been in fights here. We've got to find a way to work together.

Q: No, but that's what you mean by doubling down? What's that mean?

SEC. MATTIS: Working together.


Q: On Pakistan you mentioned to U.S. lawmakers in October that you were willing to work one more time on the issue of militants. Is there an urgency...

SEC. MATTIS: I'm sorry -- say that...

Q: You mentioned to U.S. lawmakers in October that you were willing to work one more time...

SEC. MATTIS: Yes.

Q: ... on the issue of militants.

SEC. MATTIS: Yes.

Q: Is there an urgency to this as you head there now?

SEC. MATTIS: Pardon?

Q: Is there an urgency to this as you head to Pakistan?

SEC. MATTIS: There's always an urgency to something when 39 nations plus Afghanistan have their troops in the midst of a long war, where causalities are being taken. These are 39 of the most economically powerful, generally speaking, most long-term democratic institutions in the world. These are powerful nations morally, economically and diplomatically, and certainly militarily.

So it's, I think, essential in South Asia that we all work together to restore the level of stability that allows for the economics to build. I mean, can you imagine a border between Pakistan and India where economic trade is not ongoing to the benefit of people on both sides of that border. We can not only imagine it; it's a reality right now.

So what we've got to do is all work together on this, and there's a sense of urgency about that. There's people who are living below the poverty line in both those countries.

So as you look at this problem, if you'll expand the problem you can understand the sense of urgency to -- to move beyond violence and get back to the normal order of things.

Q: But have you seen something by Pakistan recently that suggests to you they are open to do more, or that they're willing to change? Have you seen any indication?

SEC. MATTIS: Yes, Lita, I would look at visit of General Bajwa to Kabul here -- I forget the date. It's in the last couple of months. And I would look at General Bajwa's statements about Pakistan taking the lead on certain issues, and that he put forward there.

Q: So you think that's an opening for you?

SEC. MATTIS: I have no doubt it's an opening. General Bajwa is a mature officer with a deep background in not just military matters, but South Asia security issues, and we have got to find a way to move beyond this constant fighting that's characterized the area.

Q: Over the past week we've seen in Pakistan sort of this rise of Islamist hardliners taking hold in the mainstream. You know, there was this sit-in this was called off. There was a, you know -- a militant with 10 million bounty, he was released from house arrest just a week before you arrived. The White House said that could have repercussions for the relationship.

So given that you see a positive, there are a few things just in the past few weeks, that have really made here, that there is a slide towards extremism in the country. Is that something you're going to bring up?

SEC. MATTIS: Yes, first of all I need to talk to the leaders in the country and gain their understanding. I do not do foreign policy, military policy through what I read in the press. It is not to put anything down about the press. I'm not saying that. But I need to go -- this is why I go, to sit down and listen to them, start there, start by listening.


From the US DoD website:

Press Gaggle with Secretary Mattis En Route to Kuwait

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Postby kancha » 05 Dec 2017 09:09

On Twitter
@KatochPrakash
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Overheard: Appears Bajwa wanted Ashiq Mohammad Khan Mazari to declare he doesn’t have any daughter, till he realized momsie Shireen could face embarrassing questions.

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Postby arun » 05 Dec 2017 09:14

The US Department of Defense readout of US Defense Scretary General James Mattis’ (Retd) visit to the Mohammadden Terrorism Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

Long on placatory US statements pandering to the Mohammadden Terrorism Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s concocted “sacrifices in the war against terrorism” narrative that they, the Islamic Republic, are victim of the Mohammadden Terrorism they themselves created and nurtured in an attempt to intimidate neighbours like India with nary any evidence that the US will change course from policy of attempting to bribe the Islamic Republic and instead wield the stick to end the duplicitous behaviour of the Islamic republic:

Readout of Secretary Mattis' Meeting With the Pakistan Prime Minister and Minister of Defense

Press Operations
Release No: NR-410-17
Dec. 4, 2017

Pentagon Chief Spokesperson Dana W. White provided the following readout:

Secretary of Defense James Mattis visited Islamabad on December 4 on his inaugural trip to Pakistan in this position.

In Islamabad, Secretary Mattis met with Prime Minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi and Minister of Defense Khurram Dastigir Khan. Secretary Mattis also met with Chief of Army Staff General Qamar Javed Bajwa and the Director General of Inter-Services Intelligence Lt. Gen. Naveed Mukhtar.

Secretary Mattis recognized Pakistan’s sacrifices in the war against terrorism. The Secretary emphasized the vital role that Pakistan can play in working with the United States and others to facilitate a peace process in Afghanistan that brings stability and security to the region. The Secretary reiterated that Pakistan must redouble its efforts to confront militants and terrorists operating within the country.


From the US DoD website:

Readout of Secretary Mattis' Meeting With the Pakistan Prime Minister and Minister of Defense

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Press Release put out by the Uniformed Jihadi’s of Punjabi Dominated Military of the Mohammadden Terrorism fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan regards meeting of their Chief of Uniformed Jihadi Staff Qamar Javed Bajwa a and US Defence Secretary General James Mattis (Retd).

Chief of Uniformed Jihadi Staff of the Mohammadden Terrorism Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan, Qamar Javed Bajwa, wailed about “concerns emanating from Indian use of Afghan soil”

In the event the US at some point raises the above concern of the Islamic Republic with us, I hope our Foreign Policy establishment rudely responds that India’s relations with Afghanistan is strictly a bilateral matter and no interlopers going to bat for MUNNA’s aka MNNA aka Major Non NATO Ally are welcome:

Dated: December 4, 2017
Rawalpindi - December 4, 2017:

General James Mattis, US Secretary of Defence called on Chief of Army Staff (COAS) General Qamar Javed Bajwa at GHQ today.

Meeting was focused on regional security with particular emphasis on Afghanistan as well as other matters of mutual interest. COAS acknowledged history of US engagements with Pakistan especially the ongoing efforts for continuing the positivity for peace in the region. He said that Pakistan has done much more than its due share despite capacity constraints but shall remain committed for peace as a responsible member of international community. He reiterated Pakistan's support to peace and stability in the region and highlighted Pakistan's concerns emanating from Indian use of Afghan soil, the necessity and right of Afghan refugees for a respectable & early repatriation and the existence of terrorist safe havens across the border in Afghanistan.

Gen Mattis expressed his respect for Pakistan Armed Forces and the effective operations undertaken against terrorists. He highlighted concern that a few elements continue to use Pakistan's territory to further their terrorist agenda in Afghanistan. He assured that US is ready to play its role in addressing Pakistan's legitimate concerns, saying that his aim is not to make demands but find common grounds to work together.

COAS appreciated the dignitary's understanding of the underlying issues and said that Pakistan does not require anything from US but understanding. We have eliminated safe havens from Pakistan's soil but are prepared to look into the possibility of miscreants exploiting Pakistan's hospitality to the Afghan Refugees to the detriment of our Afghan brothers.

Both agreed to work towards specific and sustained actions on each other's concerns.


From the PR website of the Uniformed Jihadi’s:

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Postby Falijee » 05 Dec 2017 16:29

THREE DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF WHAT TOOK PLACE :D

Karachi_Post Retweeted
Syed Talat Hussain‏Verified account @TalatHussain12
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The sum total of Mattis visit: safe havens. Three statements, see the variations !


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PS: IMO, Pakiland still holds the "trump card of a policeman" who guards the entry to and from Afghanistan for all visitors. Unless this problem is solved the blackmail potential exists .!!!

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Postby Falijee » 05 Dec 2017 16:43

Ganja's Shuttle Back And Forth :roll:

Nawaz, Maryam leave for London today

LAHORE - Former prime minister Nawaz Sharif along with his daughter Mayram Nawaz , son in law Capt (retd) Safdar and grand-daughter will leave for London today (Tuesday), say media reports. Sharif and his family members will fly from Lahore through a private airline, the reports add. Sharif’s wife, Begum Kalsoom Nawaz is undergoing treatment for her cancer disease in London . It be mentioned that the Accountability Court yesterday had allowed exemption of one week to former prime minister from appearance in the NAB references which are at the stage of recording the prosecution evidence.


One foot in Londonistan, one foot in Pakiland ( Jati Umra, Isloo or La-Whore) . The whole idea is to "preserve his ill gotten wealth" and still maintain some sort of political influence of his party . The daughter and the "clever brother" are responsible for this department. The hyenas are getting too close for comfort. Due to the Mrs medical condition, no one dare go any further. The back and forth, IMO, will continue for some time. :twisted:

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Postby anupmisra » 05 Dec 2017 17:09

Like I said in an earlier post, something smelled in this pissahour operation. It was over in two hours and all three soocide vests were recovered, intact.

Probe demanded into killing of ATI attacker ‘disarmed’ by student

The opposition parties in the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Assembly on Monday demanded inquiry into the killing of a terrorist, who was allegedly disarmed and locked up in a room by a student during the Friday’s attack on the Agriculture Training Institute, Peshawar.
“The police instead of arresting the attacker opened fire at the attacker and killed him in the dormitory”
She said the police had spoiled evidence by killing the attacker and that the arrest of the terrorist would have provided intelligence agencies with clues to reach handlers, planners and masterminds of the attack on the institute.


https://www.dawn.com/news/1374657/probe ... by-student

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Postby anupmisra » 05 Dec 2017 17:14

Mushy is now well and truly gone over the deep end. He will say anything to stay marginally relevant. He has completely lost it at this point.

Open to forming political alliance with JuD, LeT: Musharraf

Days after declaring himself the greatest supporter of Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT), former president Pervez Musharraf said that he is open to forming a political alliance with the proscribed militant group, Jamaatud Dawa (JuD) and its chief Hafiz Saeed.
"If it is meant to be, it will be," Musharraf said
"There have been no talks yet, but if they want to be included in the alliance, by all means, I will welcome them," Musharraf said
When asked about the possible international repercussions his statements in favour of the proscribed group could have for the country, the former president said, "This is our country [...] we are aware of the internal situation in the country, the people in it and if they are good or bad."
"I spoke about Hafiz Saeed and I will say it proudly that LeT and JuD are both very good organisations of Pakistan," Musharraf added.
"In 2005, I saw that they were the best engineers. They did the best work at the time of the earthquake [in Islamabad]."
"They are not terrorists and we should tell [this to] America and the world," Musharraf said.
He added that Saeed should be given credit for employing his followers in welfare organisations and preventing them from "taking up weapons and joining the Taliban."


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Postby anupmisra » 05 Dec 2017 17:16

Social activist ‘goes missing’ in Lahore

Raza Mahmood, a convener of Aghaz-i-Dosti, a friendship initiative between the youth of India and Pakistan, went to his residence after a meeting with friends on Saturday but was never heard of after that.


https://www.dawn.com/news/1374641/socia ... -in-lahore

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Postby Falijee » 05 Dec 2017 17:28

Now It Is Italy's Turn To Protest :D

Italy raises question on the issue of human rights in Pakistan

Islamabad: Italy raised a question to Pakistan on unsatisfactory measures taken on the issue of human rights and suggested to EU to suspend Pakistan’s GSP Plus status until it stops persecution against the minorities in the country.Documents available with Online, the Italian Senators raised the question in the Senate to suspend Pakistan’s GSP Plus status and asked to stop persecution against children, women and minorities in Pakistan .
Members of the Italian Senate Mr. Domenico DE SIANO, Mr. Franco CARDIELLO, Mr. Enzo FASANO, Mr. Cosimo SIBILIA, Mr. Domenico AURICCHIO Raised a question to the Italian Minister of the Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation and Economic Development asking to stop the support for the renewal of the GSP Plus of Pakistan by the European Commission. Preference for Paki goods to enter Italy without "full duty". But what does Italy get in return :roll:
It is pertinent to mention that Italy is the second largest country in Europe providing free trade access to Pakistani products under GSP plus. The current bilateral trade volume between two countries has risen up 1.5 billion during the current fiscal year.

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Prediction of Indian Astrolger gets shalwar of Parliamentarian from the Islamic Republic of Pakistan in a knot. Said Parliamentarian being Chair of the meeting of the Islamic Republic’s Senate’s Standing Committee on Interior and former Interior Minister of the Islamic Republic, Rehman Malik:

Senators call for probing Indian national’s tweet about terror attack

Excerpt:

A Senate panel asked on Monday the Ministry of Interior to investigate how an Indian national named Anirudh Kumar Mishra could have predicted in a tweet the recent act of terrorism in Peshawar, off by just one day.

The same man also predicted that Pakistan would suffer five more such terrorist attacks till mid-February,

Expressing concerns over the fresh wave of terrorism in the country, Senator A Rehman Malik accused India of instigating acts of terrorism in Pakistan, insisting that its agency, RAW, was using Afghanistan’s soil for such nefarious activities.

Referring to Anirudh Kumar Mishra’s tweet, he said that this tweet showed India’s involvement.

He asked the Ministry of Interior to investigate and expose India’s real face at international forums.

Chairing the meeting of the Senate’s Standing Committee on Interior, he said that India was abetting and sponsoring terrorists inside Afghanistan for carrying out such acts inside Pakistan. He also urged the government to review progress of the National Action Plan (NAP) since its formulation in 2014. …………………………

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Postby Falijee » 05 Dec 2017 17:41

Aam Abduls Taken For A Ride On Their ATMs :D

Hackers Steal Millions in ATM Card Skimming in Major Cities in Pakistan

Many reports of ATM hacking have been received across the country after hundreds of users complained about unauthorized withdrawal activities from their bank accounts and blockage of their ATM cards.The Federal Investigation Agency (FIA) immediately took the notice of the complaints – and it has started an investigation against the culprits that are behind this horrendous campaign. According to the sources, more than 1 crore rupees of around 600 customers have been lost until now.An FIA official told the media that “an ATM installed at Khayaban-e-Ittihad (Karachi) has been cited as the target of the attack.”
Several other hacking cases have been reported in the country. The reports of thievery have been received from Dolmen Mall, Karachi and busy places of Islamabad.Reportedly, HBL responded to the complaints quickly by immediately blocking the ATM cards of users who had reported the unusual activities.

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Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017

Postby A Deshmukh » 05 Dec 2017 17:43

double and redouble of 0 stays 0.
so US expects 0 efforts from tsp in handling terrorists.
any Indian expecting anything else, is his fault, doesn't know his maths.

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arun wrote:Prediction of Indian Astrolger gets shalwar of Parliamentarian from the Islamic Republic of Pakistan in a knot. Said Parliamentarian being Chair of the meeting of the Islamic Republic’s Senate’s Standing Committee on Interior and former Interior Minister of the Islamic Republic, Rehman Malik:

Senators call for probing Indian national’s tweet about terror attack

Excerpt:

A Senate panel asked on Monday the Ministry of Interior to investigate how an Indian national named Anirudh Kumar Mishra could have predicted in a tweet the recent act of terrorism in Peshawar, off by just one day.

The same man also predicted that Pakistan would suffer five more such terrorist attacks till mid-February,

Expressing concerns over the fresh wave of terrorism in the country, Senator A Rehman Malik accused India of instigating acts of terrorism in Pakistan, insisting that its agency, RAW, was using Afghanistan’s soil for such nefarious activities.

Referring to Anirudh Kumar Mishra’s tweet, he said that this tweet showed India’s involvement.

He asked the Ministry of Interior to investigate and expose India’s real face at international forums.

Chairing the meeting of the Senate’s Standing Committee on Interior, he said that India was abetting and sponsoring terrorists inside Afghanistan for carrying out such acts inside Pakistan. He also urged the government to review progress of the National Action Plan (NAP) since its formulation in 2014. …………………………


Predictions by Indians seem to have great influence over the citizens of the Mohammadden Terrorism Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

A month back prediction of a Tsunami by an Indian set off a panic in the Mohammadden Terrorism Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan:

Indian man’s 'sixth sense' earthquake prediction sets off alarm bells in Pakistan

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Falijee wrote:Now It Is Italy's Turn To Protest :D

Italy raises question on the issue of human rights in Pakistan

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Preference for Paki goods to enter Italy without "full duty". But what does Italy get in return :roll:

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Mutual backscratching at the United Nations Coffee Club aka Uniting For Consensus grouping that is opposed to UN reform by expanding the number of veto wielding permanent Security Council members. The Italians look to block Germany while the Mohammadden Terrorism Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan looks to block us.

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Terroristan - 29 September 2017

Postby Peregrine » 05 Dec 2017 19:57

Fraudsters in China rob millions from Karachi’s ATMs

Hundreds of citizens in Karachi have lost millions of rupees over a couple of weeks after falling prey to an automated teller machine (ATM) skimming fraud, Geo News reported on Monday. The schemers withdrew money in China, while the transactions were made in Pakistan through the fraudulent scheme.

The Federal Investigation Agency (FIA) said the skimmers withdrew money using data of 579 ATM cards. They accessed the accounts by placing skimming devices in different ATMs. Account holders only came to know of the theft after being informed by their respective banks, the agency said.

The FIA has started investigating the matter under the Prevention of Electronic Crimes Act. The matter has also been raised on a diplomatic level with China. FIA officials said they had written to Chinese diplomats to apprise them of the details of the fraud.

Clifton worst hit

The highest number of incidents of ATM skimming took place at a major shopping mall in the city’s upscale Clifton neighbourhood, where the fraudsters placed a skimming device on one ATM and made other machines dysfunctional, leading all potential victims to the ATM with the skimming device.

ATM skimming

ATM skimming can be regarded as identity theft for debit cards. Fraudsters employ different techniques to record your PIN code for accessing the hard-earned money in your account. In some instances, the schemers stick a fake card reader on the ATM, while in others they place a fake keypad on the machine to get your PIN code. Another technique employed in this crime is the use of a hidden camera, which records your PIN code and conveys it to the fraudsters. A few ATM skimmers also change the entire display of the ATM.

Protect yourself

To avoid the loss of your hard-earned cash, it is necessary for you to check that there is no hidden on unusual device attached to the ATM you are using. Your PIN code is vital for the schemers and they are unable to withdraw cash without it. One must punch in his PIN code in a way that avoids detection by a hidden camera placed somewhere on or around the machine. Do not withdraw money if you sense anything unusual at an ATM and immediately inform the bank officials concerned.

Not the first time

This is not the first time that ATM skimmers from China have robbed ATMs in Karachi. Three Chinese skimmers have already been arrested in Karachi for manipulating ATMs. On March 20 this year two Chinese nationals were apprehended while removing a skimming device from an ATM in Clifton. They had skimmed money from a cash machine near the Teen Talwar locality. Another Chinese man was held in June last year in connection with ATM skimming.

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Postby Bart S » 05 Dec 2017 20:07

^Just a small taste at the personal level, of what is in store for them at the national level with CPEC and OBOR. :D

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PEREGRINE-JI:
Are the Paki Banks covered for this fraud under "CPEC Insurance". Just wondering :twisted:

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Postby anupmisra » 05 Dec 2017 20:26

HS&D (hunnar, sovirginity, and dignatee) saved! Mubarak ho, pakistaniyon!

Pakistani retailers rebrand Black Friday to ‘Blessed Friday’ after backlash

Pakistani e-commerce giants rebranded their massive Black Friday campaigns to ‘Blessed Friday’ and other variants including ‘White Friday’ and ‘Gold Friday’ etc following backlash for referring to ‘sacred’ Friday as ‘black’.
From midnight tonight, as Daraz starts the main sale, the biggest shopping event of the year shall from here-on be known as the BIG FRIDAY sale.


From now on, with a new moniker, Dollars will start to flow in the gutters of pakhanistan. Let every mullah in every mosque in every corner of pakhanistan make this proclamation to the assembled as the momeens head out after Friday prayers to create mayhem!

https://dailytimes.com.pk/146540/pakist ... -backlash/

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Pakistan’s ‘blood-thirsty liberals’

Imran Khan and his supporters dislike the ‘liberals’ because these liberals call for the sanctity of the single most important document in the country — the constitution of Pakistan
As Abrarul Haq, once a Pakistan Studies teacher at Aitchison College (Aitchison really did have some bad days!), thundered, “these liberals, with their English, simply could not tolerate a peaceful end to the dharna. They wanted blood.”
So why is Imran Khan and his followers afraid of these handful of ‘liberals’?
Khan and his supporters dislike the ‘liberals’ because these liberals call for the sanctity of the single most important institution in the country. And no, its not the army, it is the constitution of Pakistan. (Blasphemy! Pemra, are you listening?)
Take away the constitution and the country falls apart; disregard the constitution and there is civil strife and war, abrogate the constitution and people become slaves. (So was pakhanistan, by extension, a failed state until 1958 and pakis were slaves? What about when the constitution was abrogated or changed in 1962 and 1973))


Blasphemy.

https://dailytimes.com.pk/152657/pakist ... -liberals/

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Postby anupmisra » 05 Dec 2017 20:41

More bad news for the chini-paki love fest.

Shanghai Electric won’t take over KE if MYT not revised

Shanghai Electric China would not take over the management power and shares of Karachi Electric if National Electric and Power Regulatory Authority (NEPRA) would not revise its Multi Year Tariff (MYT)
In case of withdrawal of the decision on ground of NEPRA’s negation on the matter, the ongoing talks for taking over KE management and shares would be in doldrums


https://dailytimes.com.pk/153107/shangh ... t-revised/

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Postby Falijee » 05 Dec 2017 21:15

Pakis Find Out That When It Comes To Money, The Chinis Play "Hardball" And Cannot Be Fooled As Easily As The Americans :D

Three CPEC projects in jeopardy after China suspends funding

ISLAMABAD – At least three road projects under the umbrella of the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) will face a delay as China has suspended funding till the issuance of new guidelines by Beijing.According to Dawn News, it is unclear yet whether the new guidelines would affect more projects, but initial reports suggest that three road projects worth Rs1 trillion pertaining to the National Highway Authority (NHA) could face interruption. No drinking at the public trough allowed, unless you are a Chini Citizen :mrgreen:
An official talking to the media outlet revealed that increased news reporting in Pakistan regarding alleged corruption in CPEC projects has forced China to conduct a review and suspend funding. The jernails and the kernels of the fauj are most probably have their fingers in the CPEC pot . Earlier there were also some rumours about corruption in the Multan Metro Project echoed by Immy Khan, pointing fingers at Shahbaaz Sharif !
The delay is going to affect the 210-km Dera Ismail Khan-Zhob Road project, 136-km remaining portion of Karakarom Highway (KKH) from Raikot to Thakot and 110-km Khuzdar-Basima Road. The estimated cost of the projects is Rs81 billion, Rs8.5bn and Rs19.76bn respectively. All the projects were part of the Pakistani side’s programme, but the NHA authorities in 2016 disclosed that these were going to be part of the CPEC in order to receive concessionary finance from China.
The Chinese will extract their pound of flesh with iron-clad agreements with penalties for late repayments, punitive clauses etc etc
During the previous year, China approved funding for the three road network projects during the sixth meeting of the JCC and Pakistan was hopeful that the funds would be finalized in the meeting of the Joint Working Group (JWG) on Nov 20. However, the Chinese side informed counterpart that the funds will be finalized after issuance of new guidelines from Beijing, besides suspending the funds under the prevailing procedure. The Americans can be fooled with "padded reimbursement bills", but the Chinis are too smart for this old style scam :D
“In fact the Chinese authorities informed us that the previous procedure of release of funds was meant for early harvest projects only and new guidelines will be issued for future projects of the CPEC,” the official told Dawn News. The official added that the move has stunned Pakistan as it is happening for the first time. /u]
By the time this is all over, the Pakis will find lots of "surprises" . Bottom line : There is no "free lunch" :mrgreen:

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Postby Peregrine » 05 Dec 2017 21:33

Falijee wrote:PEREGRINE-JI:
Are the Paki Banks covered for this fraud under "CPEC Insurance". Just wondering :twisted:
Falijee Ji :
Regret all such matters are in the "CPEC Agreement" which is Strictly Private on the Confidential Parts which only Heineken Lager can reach!

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Postby Bart S » 05 Dec 2017 22:12

Falijee wrote:


PEREGRINE-JI:
Are the Paki Banks covered for this fraud under "CPEC Insurance". Just wondering :twisted:


Actually there is such a thing as CPEC-related insurance, but it works the other way, i.e Pakis pay extra interest, to insure the Chinese against the risk (certainty?) of Paki failure and bankruptcy.

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Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017

Postby anupmisra » 05 Dec 2017 22:33

Afghanistan-based terrorists are on the retreat. Happy days supposedly are here again...but...

Six dead in North Waziristan roadside bombing

At least six people were killed and eight others injured in a roadside bombing in North Waziristan, Political Administration of the tribal agency said.


https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/25255 ... de-bombing


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