Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby chola » 20 May 2019 14:15

Prasad wrote:It was never about Cheen being yevil communists who are targetting their minorities&running a non-democractic setup. It is and always was about them gaining power that could rival and surpass the americans. Everything else is just smoke&mirrors to hide this truth.

We are a similar civilisation with an equal if not greater potential. But we're about 2 decades behind cheen on the growth path thanks to Deng & the quagmire of our late 80s& early 90s. We will get the same fearmongering and threats when we get to cheens current position. We've already been subject to massive subversion. This face-off is a great opportunity to grow and more importantly LEARN!


We will get less fear-mongering based on the strategic value of our plot of land relative to what Unkil sees as its core interests. The fulcrums to the US world view are to either side of us in the Middle East and the Far East. Hence Iran and Cheen get the most of their attention.

Good and bad to this situation. We dominate South Asia like a Colossus without receiving much attention but Bangladesh and Pakiland are poor substitutes for the likes of Korea or Japan.

It wasn't just Deng or our quagmire that allowed Cheen to race way from us when the GDPs were equal in the 1970s.
It was the investment and expertise of Cheen's reguonal neighbors -- Japan, SoKo, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore, etc. Even if we had opened up, we wouldn't have grown as fast because we didn't have the same regional system to plug into.

But the wealth of East Asia makes it a strategic concern of Unkil. So Cheen (or Japan before it) will never be allowed to dominate it without a struggle.

Now if Unkil and Cheen stay adversarial, we can grow to a point where we can slowly extend our reach to the Persian Gulf or the Far East without triggering a response Amreeki since we will doing it in containment of Cheen. But for that to work, Cheen must remain powerful enough that the US feels it would need help.

Trump is currently showing the world that the US can crush Cheen on its own.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Haresh » 20 May 2019 15:05

Can India narrow its gap with China in defence, diplomacy and technology? Probably not under Modi

https://www.scmp.com/comment/insight-op ... lomacy-and

Unsurprisingly, Indian leaders were absent from China’s Belt and Road Forum on April 26-27. This marked the second time they had boycotted the event, rooted in concerns that the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor project violates India’s territorial integrity.
Alongside the US and Japan, India has been highly critical of China’s “Belt and Road Initiative”, labelling it as “debt-trap diplomacy.”
Just last month, New Delhi set up an Indo-Pacific division in its Ministry of External Affairs, which is expected to counteract the broader geopolitical impact of China’s Maritime Silk Road. The Act East policy has been a hallmark of India’s foreign policy under Prime Minister Narendra Modi – if not in action, at least in rhetoric.
However, Modi’s tenure has been plagued by inadequate investment to modernise India’s military. For New Delhi, it’s not just its defensive shortcomings that are of concern, but a host of other strategic areas where it lags well behind Beijing, from infrastructure to diplomacy and artificial intelligence.
If Modi is re-elected in the general election which wraps up on May 23, is there any reason to believe his administration – which has presided over a shaky period of Sino-Indian relations – has the strategic foresight to close the growing gap with China?
China is India’s largest trading partner, and their economies have become enmeshed. But, from the perspective of raw economic power, the gap remains quite visible: as of 2018 according to the International Monetary Fund, India’s economy was valued at US$2.7 trillion while China’s stood at US$13.4 trillion.

According to the Lowy Institute’s Asia Power Index (which ranks countries by economic resources, military capabilities and diplomatic influence), India lags behind China on every important geopolitical metric.
A glaring divergence can be found in the domain of defence. Following an aerial tit-for-tat with Pakistan in February, after a terrorist attack in Indian-controlled Kashmir, Modi and the ruling Bharatiya Janata Party have sought to squeeze as much political capital as possible out of the incident by using national security as a significant platform in their re-election campaign.
Does a navy celebration signal warmer currents between New Delhi and Beijing?
However, after the cross-border skirmish in which India lost a Soviet-era MiG-21 to an army half its size with a quarter of its funding, The New York Times reported that “if intense warfare broke out tomorrow, India could supply its troops with only 10 days of ammunition, according to government estimates. And 68 per cent of the army’s equipment is so old, it is officially considered ‘vintage’.”
It has not been very successful in drumming up interest in its “made-in-India” artillery exports, either.

Driven by a desire for naval dominance of the Indo-Pacific, Beijing has looked to enhance its deep-sea capabilities through “intelligent” military systems.
In just the past couple of years, China has placed acoustic sensors in the Mariana Trench, commenced development of robotic submarines, and is in the initial stages of an AI-driven deep-sea base in the South China Sea.
While India has taken note of China’s investment in AI and other dual-use technologies, it has yet to counter with any effective AI-led strategy of its own.

This primarily stems from India’s failure to implement structural changes. Under President Xi Jinping’s wide-ranging organisational reforms, non-combat personnel have been slashed and military technology modernised with cyber and space-ops.
Meanwhile, 42 per cent of India’s defence budget is sapped by salaries and pensions. Devoid of reforms, asymmetric inequalities have only widened and the gap is set to grow.
This leads to the next concern: an undersized diplomatic corps. Despite a population of 1.3 billion, India retains a paltry 940 diplomats, barely more than Singapore, in comparison to China’s 7,500.

Such a lack of a well-staffed foreign ministry is even more concerning when you consider New Delhi’s role in pushing back against China’s belt and road projects, and with the Trump administration emphasising outreach to the Indo-Pacific region to enlist India into “the Quad” along with Japan and Australia.
After coming to power in 2014, one of Modi’s fundamental shifts was to seek greater alignment with countries looking to New Delhi to be a reliable counterweight to Beijing.
While India and China have the potential for benign competition, given their growing clout regionally and globally, several years of tense developments in bilateral relations reached a peak in 2017 during the 73-day border stand-off between the two at Doklam.
Cooperation with China best for India
Modi and Xi de-escalated tensions at the Wuhan summit last year as part of a “reset” in relations, but that honeymoon phase has ended, with China blocking – for the fourth time – a UN Security Council effort to blacklist Masood Azhar, leader of the Pakistan-based terrorist group Jaish-e-Mohammed (though it has since relented).

India understands that any potential reset would be tactical: policymakers have to grapple with obstacles that are swiftly defining the nature of the Sino-Indian relationship, taking power asymmetries, unresolved border disputes and the China-Pakistan partnership into account.
China’s infrastructural investments – in India’s own backyard – are shifting the long-term strategic picture. In response, India’s competing investments have been deemed lacklustre. India also opted out of a Quad-led project to offer alternatives to the belt and road scheme.
Whether the BJP returns to power or not, India’s next government will be saddled with a bureaucracy that hinders military reforms, a diminished diplomatic contingent and an ineffective counter to Beijing’s geostrategic projects.
Clearly, if India fails to catch up in these strategic areas, it risks widening the gap so far in the short term that it would render any long-term Asian hegemonic strategy moot.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby SSridhar » 20 May 2019 18:08

China urges US to stop provocative actions after warship sails in disputed South China Sea - Straits Times
The US military said one of its warships sailed near the disputed Scarborough Shoal claimed by China in the South China Sea on Sunday, a move coming at a time of tense ties between the world's two biggest economies.

China’s Foreign Ministry said on Monday (May 20) it “strongly urges US to stop such provocative actions”. Ministry spokesman Lu Kang made the comment at a daily news briefing in Beijing.

The busy waterway is one of a growing number of flashpoints in the US-China relationship, which also include a trade war, US sanctions and Taiwan.

The US destroyer Preble carried out the operation, a US military spokesman told Reuters.

"Preble sailed within 12 nautical miles of Scarborough Reef in order to challenge excessive maritime claims and preserve access to the waterways as governed by international law," said Commander Clay Doss, a spokesman for the Seventh Fleet.

It was the second such US military operation in the South China Sea in the last month.


On Wednesday, the chief of the US Navy said its freedom of navigation movements in the disputed South China Sea drew more attention than they deserved.

The US military has a long-standing position that its operations are carried out throughout the world, including areas claimed by allies, and they are separate from political considerations.

The operation was the latest attempt to counter what Washington sees as Beijing’s efforts to limit freedom of navigation in the strategic waters, where Chinese, Japanese and some Southeast Asian navies operate.

China claims almost all of the strategic South China Sea and frequently lambasts the United States and its allies over naval operations near Chinese-occupied islands.

Brunei, Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines, Taiwan and Vietnam have competing claims in the region.

China and the United States have repeatedly traded barbs in the past over what Washington says is Beijing’s militarization of the South China Sea by building military installations on artificial islands and reefs.

China defends its construction as necessary for self-defence and says the United States is responsible for ratcheting up tension in the region by sending warships and military planes close to islands Beijing claims.

Last month, China’s navy chief said freedom of navigation should not be used to infringe upon the rights of other nations.

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Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Peregrine » 21 May 2019 00:53

Huawei loses access to Google and Android

Google has suspended business with Huawei that requires the transfer of hardware, software and technical services except those publicly available via open source licensing, a source familiar with the matter told Reuters on Sunday, in a blow to the Chinese technology company that the US government has sought to blacklist around the world
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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby souravB » 21 May 2019 05:21

Stephen Moore on Trade war. The second side of coin that Chinese paid American MSM doesn't highlight

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby SSridhar » 21 May 2019 12:32

‘Bullying and blackmail’: China could retaliate
“We have been holding on for 5,000 years,” Zhang [Zhang Ming, China’s envoy to the EU] said. “Why not another 5,000 years?”

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby chola » 21 May 2019 15:16

So yesterday, a fellow desi analyst on the Street sent me this.

All of the top five films at the China box office this weekend (ending May 19th) were non-Chinese:

1. “Detective Pikachu”, Legendary (US), cume of $70M
2. “A Dog’s Journey”, Amblin (US), opening of $11M
3. “Avengers: Endgame”, Marvel/Disney (US), cume of $610M
4. “Capernaum”, (Lebanon), cume of $49M
5. "Mom"*, (India), cume of $11M

*Sridevi's last film from 2017!

The significance? In the midst of a trade war with the US, the general chini masses still remained largely open to global ideas and views.

Cheen is a paradox, you won't see the top five films in the US (or India for that matter) be phoren. Not too many commie dictatorships have a huge box office to start and fewer still are willing to import phoren cultural products from such a wide range of nations.

So we discussed this as Wall Street saw the Dawn of the Tech Cold War with the Huawei ban. Trump, many said, was doing Reagan when he stood in Berlin and supposedly precipitated the fall of the Soviet Union by calling the Soviets to "tear down this wall." We had one thought on that and that was "Cheen is no Soviet Union." They will be under the goras' hammer in the years coming up and if they turn inward then they will end up like the USSR. But if they continue to be as open as the box office indicates then they might survive this and continue their ascent.

You know, we did agree that we hope they succeed. To a point anyways. Keep the world multi-polar.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby sajo21 » 21 May 2019 15:41

chola wrote:
All of the top five films at the China box office this weekend (ending May 19th) were non-Chinese:

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5. "Mom"*, (India), cume of $11M
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*Sridevi's last film from 2017!

The significance? In the midst of a trade war with the US, the general chini masses still remained largely open to global ideas and views.

Cheen is a paradox, you won't see the top five films in the US (or India for that matter) be phoren. Not too many commie dictatorships have a huge box office to start and fewer still are willing to import phoren cultural products from such a wide range of nations.



So me thinks there is more to this than meets the eye.
The huge numbers simply cannot be attributed to a cultural overlap or curiosity. Since the actual viewership numbers are very difficult to verify, this can very well be an elaborate money laundering exercise.
There is simply no other explanation for something like Bajrangi Bhaijan to have grossed $140+ Million USD, 3 years after its release, that too in 22 days.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Prasad » 21 May 2019 15:51

Not to mention, unlike India, China severely restricts how many and which overseas films get shown in their theatres.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby sajo21 » 21 May 2019 16:05

The whole movie business reminds of Robert Vadra's copper export scam*

The researchers found that exports of metals and metal products increased from $13 billion to $29 billion, according to official data. But the companies in the BSE 500 increased such exports by less than a billion dollars. Official data say exports of copper articles more than quadrupled to Rs 36,700 crore. The big new buyer was China, not normally a buyer of brassware handicrafts . Opposition parties are suddenly interested in the matter since one of the bestknown exporters of brassware is Robert Vadra.




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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Kati » 22 May 2019 09:33

Chinese stealing in US Higher Ed ....

(I did mention about this six months ago)

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/201 ... c-research

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby chola » 22 May 2019 14:41

sajo21 wrote:
chola wrote:
All of the top five films at the China box office this weekend (ending May 19th) were non-Chinese:

<snip>
5. "Mom"*, (India), cume of $11M
<snip>

*Sridevi's last film from 2017!

The significance? In the midst of a trade war with the US, the general chini masses still remained largely open to global ideas and views.

Cheen is a paradox, you won't see the top five films in the US (or India for that matter) be phoren. Not too many commie dictatorships have a huge box office to start and fewer still are willing to import phoren cultural products from such a wide range of nations.



So me thinks there is more to this than meets the eye.
The huge numbers simply cannot be attributed to a cultural overlap or curiosity. Since the actual viewership numbers are very difficult to verify, this can very well be an elaborate money laundering exercise.
There is simply no other explanation for something like Bajrangi Bhaijan to have grossed $140+ Million USD, 3 years after its release, that too in 22 days.


Nope, Bajrangi Bhaijan made 300 crores or about $45M in Cheen. Onlee Dangal and Secret Superstar made $100M plus there.

Not onlee Bollywood but other nations like Lebanon (see above) had cashed in. Holland had a surprise hit about some man-eating lion. Though none of those come close to the two AKhan helmers mentioned above. Hollywood stuff are, of course, in another universe.

It would far simpler to launder money in a chini made film don't you think? Even at half the numbers, it is amazing for them to accept so many phoren films when we tend to think of them as homogenous and commie.

The stated 36 phoren film limit is flouted repeatedly. Otherwise, there would not be all these American blockbusters plus Bollywood, Lebanese, Dutch, etc. making hay in Cheen. The big kicker though is the split with phoren films is 25% of the box office revenue for the phoren producer not 50% as in most markets.

Still the big and very open market pulls in huge interest from Hollywood, Hollywood, Japanwood (they occupy the number one spot for "pawn" export in Cheen), etc because the volume even at 25% still makes them more cash than all other markets save North America and sometimes Japan. The attraction to overseas cultural products is real in Cheen. Those also tie into their luxury and outbound tourism markets which are the biggest globally.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Aditya_V » 22 May 2019 17:00

Laundering money here is to send money tgrough banking channels to BIF forces

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby chola » 23 May 2019 16:31

It seems Cheen is having a major crisis with its masculinity.

https://qz.com/quartzy/1616944/k-pops-rise-in-china-is-fueling-fears-of-a-masculinity-crisis

Cheen's top "male" pop idol, Cai Xukun:
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https://thelibertarianrepublic.com/chinese-media-worries-over-effeminate-men-launches-alpha-male-classes

Chini social media is trending the issue of effeminate men even among heterosexuals. Men carry their girlfriends' handbags, cooks and washes their dishes and take physical abuse.

Woman slaps man 52 times for not buying her a cellphone. He just stands there and takes it. He even stops the police from taking her away.


Posting here since the thread title includes neutering. lol

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby sum » 24 May 2019 08:12

^^ Looks like this trend is a direct import from S.Korea

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Singha » 24 May 2019 08:16

Japan too i think

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Postby chola » 24 May 2019 11:31

sum wrote:^^ Looks like this trend is a direct import from S.Korea


Singha wrote:Japan too i think


I've been looking into Cheen's entertainment industry as a work project (which probably won't amount to much now since chini investment into Hollywood fell off the cliff) and it is pretty much intertwined with SoKo and Japan. They like the exact same chit. Many Kpop groups have chini members. Chinese girl bands do bikini videos like their Japanese counterparts. Boybands from all three countries wear makeup like the girls. Just so very gay.

The whole Far East is going gay and effeminate.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Singha » 24 May 2019 11:43

i have seen a quartet of japanese sprinters - very good athletes in some world class event 4x100m mens relay.
the hairstyle, removal of body and face hair, the girlboy hairstyle, wierd tight half pants was like this pop scene only.

this was not so a few years ago.

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Postby chola » 24 May 2019 12:19

^^^ Japan has a whole generation of "herbivore men" or guys who've lost their manliness. The Samurai is going extinct there, me think.

https://businessinsider.com/herbivore-men-in-japan-are-not-having-sex-8-15

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Ashokk » 24 May 2019 18:03

Chinese diplomat in Pakistan uses an iPhone to say Huawei has cut Apple into pieces
NEW DELHI: Social media gaffes are quite common especially when a person is endorsing a smartphone or promoting something and ends up doing so using some other brand. Somehow the Apple iPhone finds itself in such stories quite often than not. However, this time the iPhone has been used to diss Apple and it has been done by none other than a Chinese diplomat based out of Pakistan. Lijan Zhao, according to a Bloomberg report, is China’s deputy chief of mission in Islamabad, took to Twitter to express his views about Huawei’s growing troubles with US companies.

Zhao tweeted, “"It has just been revealed why @realDonaldTrump hated a private company from China so much that that it went so far by announcing a national emergency.” He further said, “Look at the logo of Huawei. It has cut APPLE into pieces…" The trouble with the tweet is that Zhao apparently used an iPhone to post it on the social media platform.

BREAKING: It has been just revealed why @realDonaldTrump hated a private company from China so much that it went so… https://t.co/XMcs5UnGaB
— Lijian Zhao 赵立坚 (@zlj517) 1558382359000

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Postby Peregrine » 24 May 2019 20:06

China keen to work with re-electedPM Modi to further deepen bilateralties- PTI
HIGHLIGHTS The elections in India were concluded smoothly and referred to Chinese President Xi Jinping's congratulatory message to Prime Minister Modi: Chinese foreign ministry
BEIJING: China on Friday said it attaches high importance to its bilateral relations with India and is keen to work with Prime Minister Narendra Modi to deepen the political trust and mutual cooperation for closer partnership.
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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Rudradev » 25 May 2019 02:09

What is this biraterlarities?

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby SSridhar » 25 May 2019 13:21

China-India: Yes to civilisation exchanges, no to trade bullying - Chinese ambassador to India Luo Zhaohui, ToI

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby syam » 25 May 2019 14:31

That effeminate thing may not to do with gay or such things. These folks live in anime culture. At least in S.K and Japan. Most of the younger generations are into it.

China is also like India with billion people. It is universe within universe. Let's not get distracted with few strange stuff.

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Postby Peregrine » 25 May 2019 14:43

Rudradev wrote:What is this biraterlarities?
Rudradev Ji :

I suppose it is Bilateral Ties!

Of course you knew! - Thanks

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Postby Peregrine » 25 May 2019 14:45

Chip wars

Holding out on Huawei

American suppliers have stopped selling components to the Chinese hardware company, at least for now

ON MAY 20TH it became clear that some of the world’s most prominent technology companies—Google, Intel and Qualcomm—had stopped selling software, hardware and licences for intellectual property to Huawei, a Chinese manufacturer of phones and networking gear. This followed an announcement by the American government on May 15th that it was banning the export of American technology to Huawei unless companies got a special licence from the Department of Commerce.

Huawei, which sources a sixth of all its components from American companies, appears vulnerable. It has stockpiled enough components to keep its business running for several months. But reconfiguring its supply chain so that it is no longer reliant on American firms, which would be the only way to truly insulate itself from the trade wars, will be hard.

Google has stopped supplying Huawei with the proprietary components of Android, the search firm’s mobile operating system. That loss will have no effect on Huawei’s biggest market, mainland China, where it only uses the free, open-source components of Android. But outside China, where the firm bundles Google’s own services like Gmail and search with the tens of millions of phones it sells every year, the loss of Google’s software is crippling (and is a boon for Samsung, the South Korean market leader). Huawei is working on its own alternative, codenamed HongMeng OS according to state media, but is unlikely to be able to deploy it without significant disruption.

Huawei’s hardware is threatened, too. Intel, Qualcomm and a host of other companies have stopped supplying the parts and designs that Huawei needs to build its phones and network gear. Huawei’s sales grew by 20% in 2018 to $107bn. If the supply tap is not turned back on, 2019 will be rather less rosy.

Farther removed from American jurisdiction, Huawei’s Asian suppliers have been more circumspect. TSMC, the Taiwanese company which makes the semiconductors on which Huawei’s entire business (and that of most other technology companies) depends, is still supplying the firm, but says that it is examining its export-control systems to make sure that it is in compliance with American law. Other Taiwanese companies are following its lead.

Huawei’s Asian suppliers must obey American law on export control, in theory at least, because it prohibits not just the direct sale of American technology by American firms, but also its transmission through non-American companies like TSMC. In reality, America has few levers to force companies like TSMC to comply with its laws. Losing TSMC as a supplier would be the final blow for Huawei. Currently, that is unlikely, but if conflict escalates TSMC could become the next battleground.

Huawei says it has been preparing for an American assault on its supply chains for years. In April, Peter Zhou, a company executive, suggested that the firm had anticipated the rising tension between China and America and prepared accordingly. The firm says it has been remaking its supply chains and so will not crack under pressure as its domestic competitor, ZTE, did last year when faced with a similar ban (one ultimately lifted by President Donald Trump in response to a personal plea from the Chinese president, Xi Jinping).

But the actual state of Huawei’s preparations may be better gauged by comments made by Ren Zhengfei, the boss, on May 18th. He claimed that the company would be “fine” without its American suppliers, yet conceded that he expected revenues to grow 20% more slowly as a result of the ban. If America retains the ban as Huawei’s stockpiles dwindled, the company—and indeed China’s internet ecosystem—would be more seriously damaged. More probably, America will use its ability to withhold components from Huawei as a bargaining chip in a future trade deal with China.

Further such action could also harm America and its allies. Beijing would probably retaliate, perhaps disrupting the supply chains of American companies within China. And although American export law is a powerful weapon in this trade war, its impact will diminish with time. Every time America lashes out at a Chinese company it hastens Chinese efforts to find suppliers elsewhere. Huawei’s semiconductor division, HiSilicon, has been designing its own versions of the chips it buys from American companies. The firm’s HongMeng OS is waiting in the wings. Next time America wants to attack the supply chain, it may find that there are fewer convenient targets.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby chola » 25 May 2019 16:18

syam wrote:That effeminate thing may not to do with gay or such things. These folks live in anime culture. At least in S.K and Japan. Most of the younger generations are into it.

China is also like India with billion people. It is universe within universe. Let's not get distracted with few strange stuff.


Actually, it is a quirky thing with huge impact in the direction of the nation.

About 60% of Japan's male population are "herbivores" which leads to a population drop, decreased drive and ambition and a spike in handbag sales.

Now take Cheen, we dhoti-shake because it is seen as an aggressive (so by nature -- male) nation. But what if its male population is becoming effeminate? They don't have to be gay, just feminine in action and attitude. Cooking and washing for their girlfriends. Sharing make up with their girlfriends. Getting beat up by their girlfriends. The tenor the nation becomes different. Its attitude will veer from male to female and all that entails.

The next generation of Cheen might be far less competitive than the one today. And that would be of great impact on global geopolitics.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby syam » 25 May 2019 19:02

chola wrote:Actually, it is a quirky thing with huge impact in the direction of the nation.

About 60% of Japan's male population are "herbivores" which leads to a population drop, decreased drive and ambition and a spike in handbag sales.

Now take Cheen, we dhoti-shake because it is seen as an aggressive (so by nature -- male) nation. But what if its male population is becoming effeminate? They don't have to be gay, just feminine in action and attitude. Cooking and washing for their girlfriends. Sharing make up with their girlfriends. Getting beat up by their girlfriends. The tenor the nation becomes different. Its attitude will veer from male to female and all that entails.

The next generation of Cheen might be far less competitive than the one today. And that would be of great impact on global geopolitics.

You really think this k-pop thing will affect china? I am under impression that only big city folks dig it. All the travel videos show china very similar to India. I mean the people who work hard and such. didn't see any flower boys. :-?

meanwhile, they released trade war song which is going viral on their SM.

:rotfl: sounds very communist. All their Confucius 'values' and Han 'history' gone into dust with the song. Seriously, they need to hire a good musician who can make chinese war music. btw bloomberg has the song with english subs, but only for first minute. don't know they are correct translation.

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Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Peregrine » 26 May 2019 03:54

Huawei shipments could fall by up to a quarter this year — analysts

Huawei, hit by crippling US sanctions, could see shipments decline by as much as a quarter this year and faces the possibility that its smartphones will disappear from international markets, analysts said.

Smartphone shipments at Huawei, the world’s second-largest smartphone maker by volume, could tumble between 4% and 24% in 2019 if the ban stays put, according to Fubon Research and Strategy Analytics.

Several experts said they expect Huawei’s shipments to slide over the next six months but declined to give a hard estimate due to uncertainties surrounding the ban.

The US Commerce Department blocked Huawei from buying US goods last week amid its escalating trade spat with China.

The ban applies to goods and services with 25% or more of US-originated technology or materials, and may, therefore, affect non-American firms.

Tech companies including Google and SoftBank Group-owned chip designer ARM have said they will cease supplies and updates to Huawei.

“Huawei may be wiped out of the Western European smartphone market next year if it loses access to Google,” said Linda Sui, director of wireless smartphone strategies at Strategy Analytics.

She predicts Huawei handset shipments will decline another 23% next year but believes the company could survive on the sheer size of the China market.

Fubon Research, which previously forecast Huawei would ship 258 million smartphones in 2019, now expects the company to ship just 200 million in a worst-case scenario.

Huawei commands nearly 30% of the European market according to industry tracker IDC, and shipped 208 million phones last year, including half to markets outside China. The company counts Europe as the most important market for its premium smartphones.

Who Wins?

Huawei has said it has been developing the technology it needs to be self-sufficient for years.

But experts are not buying the company’s claim.

They said key components and intellectual property needed in Huawei’s devices are not available outside the United States.

Huawei would potentially need to lay off thousands of people and “disappear as a global player for some time,” said Stewart Randall, who tracks the chip industry at Shanghai-based consultancy Intralink.

Potential buyers of Huawei’s phones are likely to switch to high-end devices from Samsung Electronics and Apple Inc, and also buy mid-end phones from domestic rivals OPPO and Vivo, analysts said.

“It leaves an amount of share in its wake that can get picked up by competitors, particularly Samsung given its strength in regions like Europe,” said Bryan Ma, who researches the global smartphone market at IDC.

Huawei handsets are already drawing fewer clicks from online shoppers since the United States blacklisted the company, according to PriceSpy, a product comparison site that attracts an average of 14 million visitors per month.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby NRao » 26 May 2019 05:00

May 23, 2019 :: Trump’s latest explanation for the Huawei ban is unacceptably bad

Within the article, this:

TRUMP: Huawei is something that’s very dangerous. You look at what they’ve done from a security standpoint, from a military standpoint, it’s very dangerous. So it’s possible that Huawei even would be included in some kind of a trade deal. If we made a deal, I could imagine Huawei being possibly included in some form, some part of a trade deal.

REPORTER: How would that look?

TRUMP: It would look very good for us.

REPORTER: But the Huawei part, how would you design that.

TRUMP: Oh it’s too early to say. We’re just very concerned about Huawei from a security standpoint.


He pretty much played a similar game with ZTE.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby chola » 26 May 2019 08:35

syam wrote:You really think this k-pop thing will affect china? I am under impression that only big city folks dig it. All the travel videos show china very similar to India. I mean the people who work hard and such. didn't see any flower boys. :-?



Cheen is 60% city dwelling and still urbanizing at ferocious speed. So even if Kpop is just city, it'll still be the majority. In Cheen, this effeminizing phenomenom is call Cpop.

These are their two top boy bands -- top, Nine Percent, bottom, UNine. They are very gay and pink.
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meanwhile, they released trade war song which is going viral on their SM.

:rotfl: sounds very communist. All their Confucius 'values' and Han 'history' gone into dust with the song. Seriously, they need to hire a good musician who can make chinese war music. btw bloomberg has the song with english subs, but only for first minute. don't know they are correct translation.


That is why that anti-Amreeki song had no impact on their box office. It sucks. Avengers Endgame made more than $600M in the chini box office.

Unless Cheen goes Mao again and start banning Kpop and all phoren entertainment, good old manly commie propaganda will always lose out to the gayness of modern East Asian entertainment. lol

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Singha » 26 May 2019 09:01

i am visiting HK in a few days. hoping to pick up some memorabilia like this from street markets.
good old school meat n potatoes stuff.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby chola » 26 May 2019 09:28

^^^ Cool, Singha ji. I myself would go for something more modern (but not gay.)

The publication is Japanese I think but the girl group is chini, SNH48 (Shanghai 48.)

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby SSridhar » 27 May 2019 08:27

China proposes ASEAN+3 mega free trade agreement sans India, Australia and NZ - Business Line
India could be out of the mega trade deal being negotiated between 16 countries, including the ASEAN and China, if a proposal made by Beijing for a free trade pact excluding New Delhi is taken seriously by other members.

“China has started pushing for a free trade pact between ASEAN + 3 (which includes the ten-member ASEAN, China, Japan and South Korea) at the East Asia Summit. This would effectively mean that among the 16 countries negotiating the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership (RCEP), all except India, Australia and New Zealand would get included in the proposed pact,” an official told BusinessLine.


The Ministry of External Affairs, which attends the preparatory meetings for the East Asia Summit, has sought comments from the Commerce Ministry on China’s proposal for an ASEAN+3 FTA. The next East Asia Summit, which is a forum of 18 countries of the Asia-Pacific region formed to fulfil the objectives of regional peace, security and prosperity, is in Turkey next month.

Pressure tactic

Some officials in the Commerce Ministry feel that the proposal, which had once been floated earlier but rejected by Japan, has been given a fresh life by China to put pressure on India to give it concessions similar to those by other countries at the RCEP negotiations.

Since RCEP members, including the ASEAN, are aggressive in their demands, proposing that over 90 per cent traded items should have zero tariffs, New Delhi is hesitant about falling in line. India is especially apprehensive about Chinese goods swamping its market, forcing domestic producers to cut production or shut down. If finalised, the RCEP will result in the largest free trade bloc in the world accounting for 25 per cent of global GDP and 30 per cent of world trade.

“China is trying to give a message that it is ready to ignore New Delhi if it plays hardball and switch over to an alternative ASEAN+3 arrangement. The move may also result in Australia and New Zealand putting more pressure on India to be more flexible in the RCEP negotiations, as they wouldn’t want to be excluded,” the official said. China may be trying to push for an ASEAN + 3 arrangement to speedily create a new order in the region with itself at the helm to counter the challenge posed by the US with which it is engaged in a trade war.

“Earlier, it was Japan which was insistent on India’s participation in the negotiations for a regional bloc as it believed that the country could act as a balancing factor and block China’s efforts to increase its influence over the region.

“However, if China has reached some kind of understanding with Japan on the matter, it could be a rough road ahead for India,” the official said.


At present, officials from RCEP countries are holding an inter-sessional meeting in Bangkok, which is to be followed by another round at the end of next month.

Most RCEP countries want to conclude the negotiations for the free trade bloc by the year-end, but India so far has refused to be hurried into giving its commitments.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby chola » 27 May 2019 16:48



India, Australia and New Zealand aren't really East Asia anyways. It's like including India in the EU. It would never work. Who cares.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby SSridhar » 28 May 2019 08:19

The East Asia Summit has always included India from the beginning, apart from Australia and New Zealand. India places a great store in the EAS.

It is *NOT* like China wanting to become a permanent member of the Arctic Council!

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby chola » 28 May 2019 08:34

^^^ Check the history of the EAS. It was spawned from Malaysia's PM Mahathir's ASEAN plus Three. The Three being Cheen, Japan and SoKo.

At any rate, I am talking about East Asia as an existing regional and economic block not the EAS. We are not an East Asian nation.

Many of those ASEAN nations plus South Korea and Japan run trade surpluses with Cheen. They expect to run the same kind of surplus with us too. So who cares if they go ASEAN plus Three. It means chit except for letting in a flood of ASEAN plus East Asian white goods. I'm not worried about it.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby SSridhar » 28 May 2019 18:30

chola wrote:^^^ Check the history of the EAS. It was spawned from Malaysia's PM Mahathir's ASEAN plus Three. The Three being Cheen, Japan and SoKo.

That's not correct. Mahatir might have spawned it but India has been a member from the very first summit. The following is from MEA.
The concept of an East Asia Grouping was first promoted in 1991 by the then Malaysian Prime Minister, Mahathir bin Mohamad. The final report of the East Asian Study Group in 2002, established by the ASEAN+3 countries (i.e. China, Japan and ROK), recommended EAS as an ASEAN led development limited to the ASEAN +3 countries. However, the ASEAN Ministerial Meeting (AMM) held in Vientiane on July 26, 2005 welcomed the participation of ASEAN, China, Japan, Republic of Korea, Australia, India and New Zealand, in the first EAS.

We are not an East Asian nation.

These regional classifications are only convenient tools. We suddenly became part of Asia-Pacific which we have accepted gleefully.
Many of those ASEAN nations plus South Korea and Japan run trade surpluses with Cheen. They expect to run the same kind of surplus with us too. So who cares if they go ASEAN plus Three. It means chit except for letting in a flood of ASEAN plus East Asian white goods. I'm not worried about it.

India already has FTAs with ASEAN, Japan & Korea anyway. The RCEP negotiations are already putting pressure on India. That was the whole gist of the article that the grouping is to make India relent.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby abhik » 28 May 2019 18:57

How will India benefit, or are they just counting on FoMo (fear-of-missing-out) from our part, like BRI?

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby uskumar » 28 May 2019 20:36

RCEP seemed flawed from the get-go stage. India has no trade surplus with any country with which it has signed FTA with. Our trade deficit is already alarming and tax to GDP ratio low. import duty is important source of income. Under the circumstances signing FTA with China looking to dump it's products which can't find market in USA seems very flawed


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