Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby pankajs » 06 Sep 2020 15:57

https://twitter.com/globaltimesnews/sta ... 8622541825
Chinese chip manufacturer #SMIC said on Sat that it was "in complete shock and perplexed" by the news of the US government considering adding the company to a trade blacklist and denied accusations about the firm's ties with the Chinese military. https://bit.ly/2ERb0hR

Trump rolls on ...

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Postby darshan » 06 Sep 2020 19:23

If Trump's camp wants to make sure and not leave it to elections, then they need to do much higher and permanent damage to china and pakistani nexus. Trump needs to move on pakistani front too.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby pankajs » 07 Sep 2020 01:11

I was hoping for Indonesia to join India, Australia, US and France for the defense of IOR region. Looks like it is happening.

https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/ne ... 904-p55sec
New bloc of Australia, India, Indonesia takes shape amid China fears

Shared anxiety over China is driving Australia and Asia's two biggest democracies, India and Indonesia, together into a new trilateral bloc, with foreign and defence ministers set to meet virtually in coming weeks for a historic summit.

Officials say the body could become one of the region's most important "minilaterals" given the status of the three countries involved.

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Postby pankajs » 07 Sep 2020 01:20

https://asia.nikkei.com/Editor-s-Picks/ ... utal-purge
China officials run for cover as Xi Jinping prepares another brutal purge

Most Chinese public security and police organizations have long been affiliated with the State Council, which is synonymous with the government. The party's Central Political and Legal Affairs Commission exercises oversight.

Xi has broken this system by putting the nation's police forces under the direct control of the party, where the military already resides.

Likewise, the People's Armed Police -- a paramilitary organization responsible for internal security, riot control and anti-terrorism efforts -- has been placed under the full command of the Central Military Commission. It had previously been under the military and government.

Back in January 2018, Xi also conferred a new flag to the People's Armed Police; one that was different from the People's Liberation Army flag.

Each time Xi seeks to take control of a branch of law enforcement, he confers a flag.

Two days later, it became clear that Xi's move to take full control of police power has an even deeper meaning.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby pankajs » 07 Sep 2020 01:24

https://www.indiatoday.in/magazine/inte ... 2020-09-05
Our overall relations with China cannot be separated from the border: S Jaishankar
Q. One of the big challenges you described in your book is managing relations with China. Despite two high-profile informal summits between the leaders recently, we are facing the worst crisis in 45 years over the border dispute. What went wrong and what needs to be done to repair relations with China?

A. First of all, relations with China are very important and also rather complicated. Now the assumption that summits by themselves can solve decades of problems overnight might be a media belief but it certainly cannot be a foreign policy consideration. These are occasions for leaders to sort of exchange views directly. As far as the current situation is concerned, we believe that the agreements reached between India and China should be scrupulously observed, no attempts should be made to unilaterally change the status quo. The overall state of the relations cannot be separated from that of the border.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Srikanth P » 07 Sep 2020 18:14

Xi is reportedly angered by Indian defiance along border

https://www.aninews.in/news/world/asia/ ... 907132338/

China has reacted angrily to successful Indian military action along the Line of Actual Control, with the People's Liberation Army caught napping when Indian troops moved to occupy hilltop features near Lake Spanguur on the night of August 29-30.

This anger allegedly ascends all the way to the top of China's military hierarchy, Chairman Xi Jinping.

China has for a long time relied on India behaving reactively rather than preemptively, as it manufactured seizures of territory along the troublesome un-demarcated border.

This time the PLA has been on the receiving end, and Chinese Communist Party leadership is not happy.

Some media reports alleged that the CCP leadership was "enraged" that a PLA commander withdrew forces to avoid physical conflict at Spanguur, though evidence to substantiate this is yet to emerge.

This latest embarrassment came on top of the bloody fracas in the Galwan Valley on 15 June, which occurred on none other than the auspicious occasion of Xi's 67th birthday.

Losing casualties, with Chinese numbers still a state secret, represented a severe loss of face to Xi on his birthday.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Vayutuvan » 07 Sep 2020 22:55

Muppalla wrote:Now we will shoot them from tops when they try to even repair their G219 road. For a change think positive and trust you army and leadership.


I agree with your overall point in general. But there could be further complications. For example, PLA brings in civilians to repair/upgrade the road, we may not be able to justify killing civilians, especially when there is no war. They have shown their hand by allowing international tourists to Pangong Lake.

It is like Bahubali movie where kaalakEya put civilians in the front and advance on Bahubali army. It is a tactic that has been used by many occupying forces in the past.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby KL Dubey » 07 Sep 2020 23:55

rajpa wrote:I am almost convinced that Chinese believed that India was preparing to take over Aksai Chin and GB. Their real reason for encroaching on the fingers is actually defensive and preemptive, up to the point that they believe is their LAC.


I broadly agree with this, and have posted along the same lines some time ago. I am not sure of Aksai Chin, although Amit Shah did mention it along with POK and GB in his speech. I believe the plan was to regain (not "take over") GB and POK. The wailing by Pawkees had become desperate enough that Xi decided to deploy.

Now that India has shown its aggressive capability along the LAC, the Chinese have an unpalatable menu of options:

1) Disengage and go home. Let India regain GB and POK thus trashing the value of billions of $$ investment in Paa'stan over the decades. Can't keep deploying every few months. Xi pulls up his pants and stops displaying ObOr and C-Pec....nobody wants to see that. :lol:

2) Attack next month. This plan risks a humiliating defeat as well as mass desertions, surrenders, or simple turn-tail-and-run by PLA 'little emperors' when they meet the Indian Army.

3) Dig in for the winter. This plan risks a long morale-draining wait and likely billions of $$ to supply the continued deployment in the western theater.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby g.sarkar » 08 Sep 2020 01:00

https://tfipost.com/2020/09/chinese-for ... miliation/
Chinese foreign minister started his Euro tour with hopes and ambitions, he came back with despair and humiliation
Sanbeer Singh Ranhotra, 6 September 2020

The US-China decoupling, as it is being called, is bringing about tectonic shifts in the already dynamic world order, with the European Union distancing itself equally from both the US and China, much to the latter’s dismay. Under the chairmanship of German Chancellor Angela Merkel, the European Union has been made to develop a liking, albeit unwanted in nature, with respect to China. This also fits into the larger scheme of things for EU, as it looks to distance itself from the Trump-led US, at the cost of selling itself away to Chinese colonialism.
Now, while Chinese colonialism in Europe is not quite at the face, it is nevertheless a steady strategy adopted by Beijing to extend its borders and take an imminent war with the United States to its Eastern Coast. Angela Merkel, rest assured, has done quite a spectacular job of bringing together all EU member states to accept China as a compulsive friend, if not as a natural ally. Impressed by the German Chancellor’s groundwork, Xi Jinping deployed his foreign minister Wang Yi for a five-nation tour of Europe, which included halts in countries like Italy, the Netherlands, France, Germany and Norway. The visit ended as an unmitigated disaster for Beijing, not to mention as a personally embarrassing one for Wang Yi.
The visit, which was aimed by Xi Jinping and his aide-like foreign minister to be one which could be used as an opportunity to consolidate support from major European players ahead of the September 14-China-EU summit, ended up exposing the frailty of Sino-European ties, as the European countries made it no less than an inquisition for Wang Yi. Human Rights violations, Hong Kong, unfair trade practices, Indo-Pacific; China was pounded on all counts. The German Foreign Minister Heiko Maas even went to the extent of warning China, saying that the middle kingdom shouldn’t dare threaten the European countries.
To be fair, German Chancellor Angela Merkel held the fort for Xi Jinping for as long as she could. This gave much hope to Beijing, which hopped around in joy for quite some time of having found a formidable ally in Merkel, whipping support for China among EU member states. However, Merkel too had a threshold. When faced with a country like China, one simply cannot go on and on unquestionably supporting it. Chinese excesses in Xinjiang and its abuse of Uighurs, the imposition of National Security Law in Hong Kong and heightened Chinese belligerence in the Himalayas and South China Sea ultimately led to the EU finally snubbing China, in a grandly disrespectful manner no less. Internal dynamics and external factors, all lead to the EU allying with the democratic and free world, led by the United States. Siding with China, although attempted at first, proved to be a miscalculation on the part of EU, a mistake which they are now working to rectify.
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https://tfipost.com/2020/09/we-must-fol ... s-enemies/
‘We must follow India,’ India’s complete domination of China on the battlefield has emboldened China’s enemies
Akshay Narangby Akshay Narang, 6 September 2020

The Eastern Ladakh standoff is fast turning out to be a costly affair for China. Even apart from the direct cost and embarrassment that China has to bear because of the way India has hit back at China both militarily and economically, the indirect costs, too, have turned out to be rather heavy. Consequently, countries like Vietnam, the Philippines, Japan, the Czech Republic, Taiwan and Tibet, which were never able to confront Chinese aggression, are now getting emboldened.
Zhou Fengsuo, Co-founder and President of Humanitarian China and Tiananmen Student Leader, has said that other countries should follow the steps being taken by India to tackle China. Fengsuo, an exiled Chinese human rights activist was speaking at a webinar titled ‘Emperor Has No Clothes: China Under Xi Jinping’.
Fengsuo has an important point to make here. India has broken the aura that China had built around itself over the past several decades through extensive State-run propaganda. Ever since the Eastern Ladakh standoff started, India has humbled China several times, both in terms of military competition and trade tensions. Whether it is the Galwan bloodbath or the recent pre-emptive action by India in southern Pangong Tso, India hasn’t only matched up to China at the LAC but has also overwhelmed the Chinese PLA.
In terms of economic and trade tensions, India has set strong precedents by banning every popular Chinese app that comes to mind; imposing custom checks and reducing the role of Chinese companies in government contracts. Also, India is targeting all Chinese sectors, including shipping and oil.
This has sent a loud and clear message to countries being bullied by the Dragon that Beijing is not invincible. India is drafting a counter-offensive strategy against China wherein New Delhi doesn’t mirror the Dragon’s manoeuvres, but choosing where to hit China and in what form.
Therefore, India has also opened up the naval front at will and dispatched its assets to the South China Sea to step up the pressure in Beijing’s disputed waters, or also opened up the Tibetan cause by deploying the Special Frontier Force (SFF), which recruits heavily from among the Tibetan refugees, during the Eastern Ladakh stand-off.
India’s attitude is allowing countries like the Philippines to think out of the box. For example, Manila is inviting powers such as India and the United States to play a bigger role in the South China Sea. And not just the Philippines, but even Vietnam is also confronting Beijing in its own backyard.
Away from the South China Sea, Japan is also challenging in the Western Pacific. Even when the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) was threatening Tokyo with a clash near Japan’s Senkaku Islands chain, the Japanese administration had hit back by keeping its military on standby. Ultimately, the Chinese PLA chickened out of a confrontation with Japan proving how India’s bold attitude in matching up to Chinese aggression has turned tables in the Indo-Pacific.
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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Vayutuvan » 08 Sep 2020 02:13

KL Dubey wrote:3) Dig in for the winter. This plan risks a long morale-draining wait and likely billions of $$ to supply the continued deployment in the western theater.


This is the highest probability event. Cheenis have the money to waste, for now.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby g.sarkar » 08 Sep 2020 03:51

Vayutuvan wrote:
KL Dubey wrote:3) Dig in for the winter. This plan risks a long morale-draining wait and likely billions of $$ to supply the continued deployment in the western theater.

This is the highest probability event. Cheenis have the money to waste, for now.

Chinese money to burn is being quickly reduced by the China Virus. But, lets look at the positive side. Those Chinese soldiers that survive Ladakh winter will become battle hardened for fighting the Indian army. After a short R&R of course.
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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby rajpa » 08 Sep 2020 14:49

KL Dubey wrote:
rajpa wrote:I am almost convinced that Chinese believed that India was preparing to take over Aksai Chin and GB. Their real reason for encroaching on the fingers is actually defensive and preemptive, up to the point that they believe is their LAC.


I broadly agree with this, and have posted along the same lines some time ago. I am not sure of Aksai Chin, although Amit Shah did mention it along with POK and GB in his speech. I believe the plan was to regain (not "take over") GB and POK. The wailing by Pawkees had become desperate enough that Xi decided to deploy.

Now that India has shown its aggressive capability along the LAC, the Chinese have an unpalatable menu of options:

1) Disengage and go home. Let India regain GB and POK thus trashing the value of billions of $$ investment in Paa'stan over the decades. Can't keep deploying every few months. Xi pulls up his pants and stops displaying ObOr and C-Pec....nobody wants to see that. :lol:

2) Attack next month. This plan risks a humiliating defeat as well as mass desertions, surrenders, or simple turn-tail-and-run by PLA 'little emperors' when they meet the Indian Army.

3) Dig in for the winter. This plan risks a long morale-draining wait and likely billions of $$ to supply the continued deployment in the western theater.


Yes, the point is that if their mindset was defensive to begin with, it may be an opportunity for us to take advantage of and go more aggressive.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Vivasvat » 08 Sep 2020 23:55

https://thehill.com/opinion/international/515390-chinas-second-century-of-shame-thanks-to-its-communist-party
China's second century of shame, thanks to its Communist Party
BY JOSEPH BOSCO, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR — 09/08/20 10:00 AM EDT
Beijing followed its well-established practice of exploiting as weakness every generous Western opening it now found in trade, investment, technology and intellectual property transfer (licit and illicit). Chinese companies with ties to the Communist Party and the military even gained special lenient access to the U.S. stock markets. While Vladimir Lenin said capitalists would sell communists the rope to hang them, China proved the West also would provide it the money to buy the rope.

Given its behavior within and outside China, the communist government has matched the reputations of Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union as abominations in the civilized world. For many, PRC soon may stand for the “Pariah Republic of China.” The Chinese people deserve better.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby darshan » 09 Sep 2020 04:58

Modi Govt Clears Proposals To Export India-Made Smartphones Worth $100 Billion Under PLI Scheme
https://swarajyamag.com/insta/modi-govt ... pli-scheme
In a major boost for electronics manufacturing in India, the Government's empowered group has cleared applications submitted by Apple iPhone contract manufacturers Foxconn, Pegatron and Wistron, Korean giant Samsung, as well as domestic majors like Lava, Karbonn and Dixon Technologies to export India made smartphones worth $100 billion under the contours of Rs 41,000 crore production linked incentive (PLI) scheme, reports Economic Times.

With the empowered group having cleared the proposals, these will now be placed before the Union Cabinet probably this week itself. While five of the applications cleared are from foreign players, seven are from Indian players, namely, Lava, Dixon, Micromax, Padget Electronics, Sojo, Karbonn and Optiemus.

Apple Inc's contract manufacturers and Samsung alone have proposed to manufacture smartphones worth $50 billion each in the next five years, with exports being a constituent of these figures.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby pankajs » 09 Sep 2020 18:09

Quoting the embedded Reuters report

https://twitter.com/FrontalAssault1/sta ... 8202572802
U.S. prepares orders blocking cotton, tomato imports from China's Xinjiang over forced labor

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby darshan » 09 Sep 2020 18:19

They need to add garlic, chillies, etc. Though countries like India need to be on their toes to make sure that there is no dumping of products raw or processed.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby darshan » 09 Sep 2020 18:42

India Doubles Steel Exports In First Quarter Of FY21, China Emerges As Major Export Destination
https://swarajyamag.com/insta/report-in ... estination
Joint Plant Commission (JPC) is under the ambit of Union Ministry of Steel and it records the data of the country’s iron and steel sector. According to their latest release, India exported more than twice the amount of finished steel from April-June 2020 than in the same period of the previous year, Sunday Guardian has reported.

China imported almost 28 per cent of the total amount of the product sourced from India. On the other hand, there was a 42 per cent reduction in the total finished steel imported to India, whereas the nation decreased its dependence on China for the given material by 21 per cent in the given time frame.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby SSridhar » 09 Sep 2020 20:43

India, France, Australia hold first trilateral dialogue with focus on Indo-Pacific - PTI
India, Australia and France on Wednesday held talks for the first time under a trilateral framework with focus on enhancing cooperation in the Indo-Pacific, a region that has been witnessing increasing Chinese military assertiveness.

The virtual meeting was co-chaired by foreign secretary Harsh Vardhan Shringla, secretary-general in French ministry for Europe and foreign affairs François Delattre and secretary in Australian department of foreign affairs Frances Adamson.

"The focus of the dialogue was on enhancing cooperation in the Indo-Pacific Region," the External Affairs Ministry said in a statement.

It said the "outcome-oriented" meeting was held with the objective of building on the strong bilateral ties that the three countries share with each other and synergise their respective strengths to ensure a peaceful, secure, prosperous and rules-based Indo-Pacific Region.


The MEA said the three sides agreed to hold the dialogue on an annual basis.

It said the three sides discussed economic and geo-strategic challenges and cooperation in the Indo-Pacific, particularly in the context of the COVID-19 pandemic and domestic responses to the crisis.

"The three countries also had an exchange on the priorities, challenges and trends in regional and global multilateral institutions, including the best ways to strengthen and reform multilateralism," the MEA said.

The MEA said cooperation on marine global commons and potential areas for practical partnership at the trilateral and regional level were also discussed, including through regional organisations such as ASEAN, Indian Ocean Rim Association (IORA) and the Indian Ocean Commission.

The 10-nation ASEAN is considered one of the most influential groupings in the region. India and several other countries including the US, China, Japan and Australia are its dialogue partners.

The IORA is a regional forum with a focus on enhancing maritime and economic cooperation.

The members of the bloc include India, Australia, Bangladesh, Iran, Kenya, Comoros, Madagascar, Malaysia, Mauritius, Mozambique, Oman, Seychelles, Singapore, Somalia and South Africa.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Rsatchi » 09 Sep 2020 21:06

^^^
Sridhar ji
French have overseas bases in Reunion and Dzaoudki
Oz nothing in the Indian ocean
Port Mathurin under the Mauritius control
Seychelles again closer to African continent than midway
Maldives or Mathurin or both would be ideal mid ocean place for some 'R & R'
Do Aussies intend developing Cocos ?
That sits on the eastern side and Reunion etc to the Western side

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby sivab » 09 Sep 2020 21:13

https://twitter.com/nitingokhale/status ... 8170557441

Nitin A. Gokhale
@nitingokhale
Since then India has strengthened defences not just on South Bank of Pangong Tso but also on the North Bank. Indian troops now occupy highest points at Finger 4, stationing themselves above the Chinese presence on the lower heights of the ridge line.

PLA is now trying to come closer to the Indian positions on Finger 4 which are at a higher elevation. All the PLA deployments on the north shores of the lake are dominated by India’s latest move. In effect, the Indian Army has outsmarted the PLA on both sides of Pangong Tso

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby darshan » 09 Sep 2020 23:42

South Korea's Samsung, LG will cease display business with China's Huawei
https://www.wionews.com/world/south-kor ... wei-326321
In a series of bad news for China’s Huawei Technologies which has faced global boycott in the face of coronavirus and the alleged role of Chinese companies in providing user data from other countries to the Communist Party of China, Samsung and LG Display are the latest big league players to join the party.

South Korea’s Samsung Electronics and LG will stop supplying display panels to Huawei Technologies as US restrictions continue to define the route of major companies around the world.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby sanjaykumar » 09 Sep 2020 23:49

Let me record my admiration for the Indian establishment.

This Ladakh crisis has shown a wonderful, prudent and calibrated response by the GoI and Indian military. The communiques have been sober, the media have been reasonable. This is in direct contrast to China's unhinged flailing.

However, India should not enter a conflict without major aims established to bring out a favourable outcome. This can only be setting about a Tibet conflagration.
The aim needs be as audacious as East Pakistan. The kinship network of the Tibetans in India has no doubt been activated. Civilised signalling has been given, subtle but unmistakable. No doubt the RDX has already been planted at tactically significant locations along the lines of communication. The civilised world has given its overt support. Vietnam may open another front, Japan's navy has been activated.

The IA has been awaiting this opportunity for decades. They have known this day would come, in fact they have hoped for it.

Best of all a nominal Indian loss merely means round three, China's population is aging and contracting. Its economic growth is plateauing. Indian population will exceed China's in two decades with a much younger cohort. One needs troops to hold ground.

This cannot end well for China.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby BajKhedawal » 10 Sep 2020 00:27

Aditya_V wrote:Or they may be waiting for Oct-20 when the US is too busy with the Presidential elections.


pankajs wrote:Quoting the embedded Reuters report

https://twitter.com/FrontalAssault1/sta ... 8202572802
U.S. prepares orders blocking cotton, tomato imports from China's Xinjiang over forced labor


While making the CCP buy the highest amount of corn and soyabean in the history of china-us trade, Trump mentioned this yesterday in his North Carolina rally. He seemed very happy about it since the framers are happy, but I hope he doesn't succumb to such CCP bribes and keeps the pressure on in Indo-China Seas.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby KLNMurthy » 10 Sep 2020 00:52

Muppalla wrote:
amar_p wrote:Muppalla ji,
I'm simply calling out the kind of traps that China will try to set, and that we should reject them and debunk those who seem to be willing to consider them. We see glimpses of such folks on BRF itself. The outside world still has quite a few shivering dhotis.


the world have moved beyond all those. JS also knows how to use the framework without giving into framework. China has only one option at this point. Do a massive war and still lose. Let us see if it will take that choice. From an Indian perspective, it is gearing to keep its boys on the peaks like it does at Siachen.


China’s situation is best summed up by the Telugu saying, “lEste manishini kaanu,” referring to a useless guy lying down and issuing threats and warnings that, should he ever get up, he will be like a demon, not a human at all.

I deal with the uncertainty by reading the braying of Chinese outlets about Indian treachery and cunning, and praying to my ishTa devata that even a fraction of it would be true.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Cyrano » 10 Sep 2020 01:55

Murthy garu,
After the present conflict, China will be exposed for the "kari mringina velaga pandu" that it is... !

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby hnair » 10 Sep 2020 05:17

Their Ambassadors certainly need to be neutered. Cant have them pop before the champagne bottle at diplo-dinners

Chinese embassy calls for Twitter inquiry after p0rn clip liked

China's UK embassy has asked Twitter to "make thorough investigations" after its ambassador's official account liked a p0rnographic clip.
Liu Xiaoming's account also liked posts that criticised the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) and showed blindfolded Uighurs being detained.


The clip was subsequently unliked by whoever was controlling the account. :evil:

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby rajpa » 10 Sep 2020 06:36

It appears that GEISHA strategy was to win the war through sweet lies and propaganda by Mama Hua Chunying and Global Eunuch Hu Xijin, item songs by army lady boy bands, and the awesome display of hundreds of pink tents and not so much by warfighting. No prizes for guessing what is in those pink tents.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby KLNMurthy » 10 Sep 2020 09:53

@gautam mohhashay, here’s the interesting part of the Diplomat article:

What does the road ahead for the crisis in Ladakh look like? The Diplomat spoke to Praveen Swami, an Indian journalist well known for his coverage of sensitive defense and intelligence matters, on how he saw the situation evolving. Swami suggested two scenarios: one (the “good”) is where India relinquishes the peak it has supposedly occupied in the southern bank of Pangong Lake in return for China giving up its claims between Fingers 4 and 8 on the northern bank. According to him, the other (“bad”) scenario is where “both sides will be jumping to occupy hill features, of which there are literally hundreds to be grabbed.” He reminded The Diplomat that such peak grabbing was the norm between the India-Pakistan LOC in the 1990s.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby arshyam » 10 Sep 2020 09:58

^^ Priorities :lol:

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Postby pankajs » 10 Sep 2020 16:03

Worth your time .. learned some new things in the few minutes ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgykOA-LIv0
‘China Is An Anxious State; All Its Actions Are Driven By That Mental Condition’


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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby SSridhar » 10 Sep 2020 16:11

Eye on China: India, Japan sign mutual military logistics pact - Agencies
India has signed a mutual logistics support arrangement (MLSA) with Japan, with an eye firmly on China’s expansionist behaviour in the Indo-Pacific and beyond.

The pact was signed by defence secretary Ajay Kumar and Japanese ambassador Suzuki Satoshi, a defence ministry spokesperson said.

The agreement provides for creation of an enabling framework for closer cooperation, interoperability and use of each other's military facilities by the armed forces of the two countries, the official said. {Looks like MLSA goes beyond normal logistics agreement}

"The agreement establishes the enabling framework for closer cooperation between the armed forces of India and Japan in reciprocal provision of supplies and services while engaged in bilateral training activities," he said.

India has signed similar agreements with the US, France, South Korea, Singapore and Australia.

The Logistics Exchange Memorandum of Agreement (LEMOA) inked with the US in 2016 gives India refueling facilities and access to American bases in Djibouti, Diego Garcia, Guam and Subic Bay.

The one inked with France in 2018, in turn, also extends the Indian Navy’s reach in south-western IOR due to French bases in the Reunion Islands near Madagascar and Djibouti on the Horn of Africa.

The MLSA with Australia will help us to extend the reach of our warships in southern IOR as well as the Western Pacific region.

The pacts are crucial for India in the backdrop of China fast expanding its strategic footprint in the IOR after its first overseas military base at Djibouti became operational in August 2017.

China, of course, also has access to Karachi and Gwadar ports in Pakistan for turnaround facilities for its submarines and warships. It is also trying for military bases in Cambodia, Vanuatu and other countries to further consolidate its presence in the Indo-Pacific.

Closer to India, China has six to eight warships deployed in the IOR at any given time. Furiously modernizing its naval forces, from long-range nuclear ballistic missiles and anti-ship cruise missiles to submarines and aircraft carriers, China has commissioned well over 80 warships in the last six years.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Rsatchi » 10 Sep 2020 16:45

^^^
Further MLSA with Japan
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 034976.cms
One thing with all 'Kangana-Rona/Dhona'(Sorry MODS OT for the thread), these pacts have gone under the Radar.
Congi Darbari's and the LEFT-shit are not creating a ruckus like the nuclear deal issue :D :D

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby darshan » 11 Sep 2020 08:26

US State Dept releases detailed account of abuses perpetrated against Uyghur Muslims by Chinese Communist Party
https://www.opindia.com/2020/09/us-stat ... ght-abuse/
The United States administration has released a new web page that highlights the human rights abuses perpetrated by the Communist Party of China against the Uyghur Muslims and members of the other minority communities in China.

On Wednesday, the US state department released a detailed account of the Chinese human right violations against the minority Muslims in China. Releasing a dedicated web page to highlight the human right abuses, the Donald Trump administration said that they are committed to leading the global fight against these egregious human rights abuses.

The web page accounts the targeted campaign unleashed by the Communist Party of China against Uyghur women, men, and children, and members of other Turkic Muslim minority groups in Xinjiang, China.

Uyghurs are a Turkish-Muslims ethnic group living in Xinjiang, the largest and most western of China’s administrative regions surrounded by Mongolia, Russia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Afghanistan, Pakistan and India.
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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Kati » 11 Sep 2020 11:30

US cancels 1,000 China student visas, claiming ties to military

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... o-military

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby pankajs » 11 Sep 2020 12:00

Embedded Bloomberg link ...

https://twitter.com/YusufDFI/status/1304114340832763904
We welcome the U.S.’s constructive and responsive contributions to Asean’s efforts to maintaining the peace, stability and developments in the South China Sea : Vietnam Foreign Minister

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby darshan » 11 Sep 2020 14:59

US efforts are still not permanent. Trump is running out of time to do something to get US voters to realize games being played by chinese and do some permanent damage to chinese plans. Chinese don't have to worry about elections so they would just see lot of this as temporary set backs.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Philip » 12 Sep 2020 07:56

The actions taken to face upto the PRC bullying by the GOI deserve the highest praise,though one had hoped that such spine was shown by the MEA much earlier which only now is realising the foreign policy and strength comes from the other side of the coin,a strong determined military which has shown exemplary courage and verve in standing upto and blooding the Chin nose,in fact humiliating its supposedly invincible military,exposing its feet of clay.

The suggestion that other nations to follow India's example is what I'veen harping on for a decade+. That India should carve out for itself in Asia and beyond its own power centre and destiny. As we expose the mailed fist within the velvet glove, nations also threatened will seek us out.Like a powerful magnet we should draw as many Afro-Asian states into our sphere of influence,promoting not just military cooperation but economic synergy,much like the EU.India,Japan,SoKo,ASEAN,Australia,NZ,Taiwan,Vietnam,the Phillippines, can form its own ECM without the rapacious PRC. Other S.Asian states will be forced to join orlose out. Here the Indo- Japanese synergy is vital for the initial formation of the eco block.Military cooperation will inevitably follow. But for that happy event, what we do in the Himalays will determine its success.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby sanjaykumar » 12 Sep 2020 09:10

This is the first step on the road to Tibet’s freedom.

I dare say this may be the first step on the road to freedom for the Chinese people. There will be a domino effect, not just in Asia but also through domestic repercussions for China.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby pankajs » 12 Sep 2020 11:19

https://twitter.com/Cold_Peace_/status/ ... 1277949954
Good timing! I have a 6,000 word Backgrounder on China-Maldives ties that should be out next week.

The new Maldives-US defense framework "sets forth both countries’ intent to deepen engagement and cooperation in support of maintaining peace and security in the Indian Ocean."

https://twitter.com/tanvi_madan/status/ ... 0235688967
And just out: #US and #Maldives signed a "Framework for U.S. Department of Defense-Maldives Ministry of Defence Defense and Security Relationship."

Will be scheduling a Defense & Security Dialogue: https://bit.ly/32nDQPP


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