Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Adrija » 24 Dec 2020 11:14

China Faces Power Cuts Thanks to Aussie Coal Ban
There are power cuts across numerous Chinese cities where local authorities can't keep the street lights on and are forcing factories to close.
By ALEX FREW MCMILLAN Dec 21, 2020 | 08:53 AM EST


Oh my oh my... so the Gleat Han nation will now grow its GDP at 8% onlee....

:rotfl: :rotfl:

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Postby darshan » 25 Dec 2020 00:43

Indian crew on two ships stuck for months at Chinese ports as China does not allow them to unload cargo
https://www.opindia.com/2020/12/indian- ... ese-ports/
Displaying a vile gesture, China has not allowed two Indian cargo vessels with many Indians on board to unload their cargo at Chinese ports. The Ministry of External Affairs informed the same today, saying that the two cargo ships with a total of 39 Indians on board have been on anchorage in Chinese waters for several months as they were not allowed to unload their cargo, even though some other ships were allowed to do so.
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China has allowed the vessels of other countries to enter Chinese ports and unload their cargo during the months when two Indian ships with several crew members on board were not allowed to do so on the grounds of Covid-19 related restrictions. However, no case of Covid-19 has been reported so far on the Indian cargo vessels. Srivastava said bulk cargo vessel MV Jag Anand is on anchorage near the Jingtang port in Hebei province of China since June 13. The vessel had 23 Indians on board. The other vessel MV Anastasia is on anchorage near Caofeidian port in China since September 20. It has 16 Indian nationals on board.
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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby nam » 25 Dec 2020 19:10

Chini Silk road. From 32.00 onwards is Pak's round.

Note how the Chini trucks come back empty from Pak and none come before the mid day.



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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby SSridhar » 26 Dec 2020 08:57

India, Vietnam leaders discuss South China Sea, stronger defence ties - Straits Times
Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi and his Vietnamese counterpart, Mr Nguyen Xuan, discussed issues related to the South China Sea as well as defence links between the two countries during a virtual summit on Monday (Dec 21).

The two leaders underscored the importance of "self-restraint" and "non-militarisation" of the South China Sea while drawing up a roadmap for closer defence ties.

The South China Sea featured prominently in the talks at a time when both countries have seen a downturn in ties with China.

Mr Modi stressed that the code of conduct negotiations on the South China Sea should not prejudice the interest of other countries in the region, said Ministry of External Affairs Secretary (East) Riva Ganguly Das.

Separately, the two countries released a document called India-Vietnam Joint Vision for Peace, Prosperity and People, where two paragraphs were dedicated to the South China Sea issue.

Analysts noted that there were many areas of convergence between India and Vietnam, which will also take their seats in the United Nations Security Council next month.

Though India is not directly involved in the territorial dispute, China has expressed irritation with its oil exploration activities in the area. One of the oil blocks where India has been involved in partly falls under territory claimed by China.

ONGC Videsh, the overseas arm of the Indian public sector oil and gas company, has sought a two-year extension for exploring the Vietnamese oil block.

Defence, analysts said, is emerging as a key area of cooperation.

The two countries signed nine memoranda of understanding, including a framework for promoting cooperation between the defence industries of the two countries.

India also handed over the first of 10 high-speed guard boats (HSGB) which are being manufactured under a US$100 million (S$133 million) defence line of credit extended in 2014 by India to Vietnam.

Five boats are being built in the southern city of Chennai, while the rest at Hong Ha shipyard in the Vietnamese port city of Hai Phong.

"There is skill transfer and technology transfer. Manufacturing and capacity transfer. I guess that's the harbinger for future projects," said China expert Srikanth Kondapalli from the Jawaharlal Nehru University

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby nandakumar » 26 Dec 2020 09:51

darshan wrote:
Indian crew on two ships stuck for months at Chinese ports as China does not allow them to unload cargo
https://www.opindia.com/2020/12/indian- ... ese-ports/
Displaying a vile gesture, China has not allowed two Indian cargo vessels with many Indians on board to unload their cargo at Chinese ports. The Ministry of External Affairs informed the same today, saying that the two cargo ships with a total of 39 Indians on board have been on anchorage in Chinese waters for several months as they were not allowed to unload their cargo, even though some other ships were allowed to do so.
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China has allowed the vessels of other countries to enter Chinese ports and unload their cargo during the months when two Indian ships with several crew members on board were not allowed to do so on the grounds of Covid-19 related restrictions. However, no case of Covid-19 has been reported so far on the Indian cargo vessels. Srivastava said bulk cargo vessel MV Jag Anand is on anchorage near the Jingtang port in Hebei province of China since June 13. The vessel had 23 Indians on board. The other vessel MV Anastasia is on anchorage near Caofeidian port in China since September 20. It has 16 Indian nationals on board.
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Can't the shipping company declare 'force majeure' and return to where it set off or shippers can sell goods on a high sea basis to who ever is willing to buy. Just keeping it anchored off the port must be costing them a lot more than the profits they might have hoped to from the sale to whoever is the importer. One explanation could be that the ship needs fuel for onward journey which cannot be supplied unless the ship is berthed. Can someone familiar with international shipping throw some light?

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby VinodTK » 26 Dec 2020 10:32

nam wrote:Chini Silk road. From 32.00 onwards is Pak's round.

Note how the Chini trucks come back empty from Pak and none come before the mid day.


It is very impressive and scary because of the implications; hope the rest of the world is taking note specially India

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby nam » 26 Dec 2020 18:26

Look at the nonsense we have been doing in the name of trade with the Chinis.

Indian railways has been importing 10,000 containers in a year from them.

https://swarajyamag.com/news-brief/containing-china-snub-to-hostile-neighbour-as-psus-braithwaite-and-bhel-to-now-manufacture-containers-to-boost-make-in-india

Previously there was a report on 4000 crores worth of Rakhis were been imported every year :roll:

If the Chinis did do their adventure on LAC, we would have happily continued this.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby A Nandy » 27 Dec 2020 02:13

There are probably hundreds of smaller such items being indirectly imported and re-routed. The honey adulteration scam had fructose syrup coming from China under a different HS code for paint pigment emulsion or something!

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Kati » 27 Dec 2020 03:34

China Involved in 90 Percent of Espionage and Industrial Secrets Theft, Department of Justice Reveals

https://www.newsweek.com/china-involved ... ft-1255908

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Postby A Nandy » 27 Dec 2020 17:26

https://timesnest.com/probe-into-instan ... luru-news/

BENGALURU: Criminal Investigation Department sleuths probing the alleged data theft by instant loan apps stated they’ve enough circumstantial and scientific proof to link the rip-off to China.
In accordance with the officers, the appliance server relies in China, the dashboard accessed by way of the app is positioned within the neighbouring nation and administrators of three of the 4 corporations lately raided by CID are additionally from there.
Confirming the China connection, superintendent of police, CID-cybercrime, MD Sharath, stated: “Operations of the businesses which have been raided are managed from China. This contains dealing with of the hacked mobile phones’ information.”

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby nandakumar » 27 Dec 2020 18:12

nam wrote:Look at the nonsense we have been doing in the name of trade with the Chinis.

Indian railways has been importing 10,000 containers in a year from them.

https://swarajyamag.com/news-brief/containing-china-snub-to-hostile-neighbour-as-psus-braithwaite-and-bhel-to-now-manufacture-containers-to-boost-make-in-india

Previously there was a report on 4000 crores worth of Rakhis were been imported every year :roll:

If the Chinis did do their adventure on LAC, we would have happily continued this.

Bridge &Roof, a PSU and Balmer Lawrie another PSU although operating under different ministries were making freight containers until the early 90s. Initially the problem was corrosion. You need automobile standard anti rust coating which was expensive and they didn't have the paint shop for that. Then it was cost vis a vis the Chinese. So both companies shut their container divisions eventually.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby sanjayc » 27 Dec 2020 18:39

Imports are a big gravy train for everyone, from railways to army. Nobody wants to stop

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby nam » 28 Dec 2020 02:44

Only if the US allows it..people forget Chinis are growing their GDP by selling to their biggest market: US.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby durairaaj » 28 Dec 2020 05:08

nam wrote:.

Indian railways has been importing 10,000 containers in a year from them.
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If the Chinis did do their adventure on LAC, we would have happily continued this.


So, What goes out as iron ore from India, comes in as containers.

A result of Chinese Magic and Indian Ministry of Commerce's wisdom in enhancing trade ties with China.

Read this article below.
India's iron ore pellet export up on Chinese demand

Few lines from the article.
"The country's overall pellet exports were at 12.86mn t in 2019 compared with 8.42mn t in 2018, according to government data"

"Japan and South Korea have government contracts with India for the supply of state-controlled NMDC's high-grade fines and lump. No other Indian producer exports high and medium-grade ores because of a 30pc export duty on ore grades above 58pc Fe. NMDC is charged a concessional 10pc export duty for its shipments to Korea and Japan."

Also, now we know why some of the PSUs are profit making.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Rsatchi » 28 Dec 2020 14:26

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/wor ... 988543.cms
Trump's parting gift!!
What does it mean in real terms??
Will the Biden presidency be able to reverse these decisions even though the Senate has voted the bill or water it down to make it useless??
D Lama will he at last stand up and make more noise of just lie low

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Arima » 28 Dec 2020 16:03

Rsatchi wrote:https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/trump-signs-tibet-policy-to-preempt-chinese-move-on-dalai-lamas-succession/articleshow/79988543.cms
Trump's parting gift!!
What does it mean in real terms??
Will the Biden presidency be able to reverse these decisions even though the Senate has voted the bill or water it down to make it useless??
D Lama will he at last stand up and make more noise of just lie low


should be seen as victory for FM Jaishankar and PM Modi. there is definitely more than what meets the eye.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby LakshmanPST » 28 Dec 2020 17:24

Rsatchi wrote:https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/trump-signs-tibet-policy-to-preempt-chinese-move-on-dalai-lamas-succession/articleshow/79988543.cms
Trump's parting gift!!


The last para is interesting in the context of Brahmaputra river flow...
Expressing concern over the exploitation of natural resources of Tibet, in particular water, the new law seeks to pursue collaborative efforts with Chinese and international scientific institutions, to monitor the environment on the Tibetan Plateau, including glacial retreat, temperature rise, and carbon levels, to promote a greater understanding of the effects on permafrost, the river flows, grasslands and desertification and the monsoon cycle.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Cyrano » 28 Dec 2020 19:10

Trump is doing what India should have done long ago, and is still not committing itself to doing.

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Postby NRao » 28 Dec 2020 21:44

Rsatchi wrote:https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/trump-signs-tibet-policy-to-preempt-chinese-move-on-dalai-lamas-succession/articleshow/79988543.cms
Trump's parting gift!!
What does it mean in real terms??
Will the Biden presidency be able to reverse these decisions even though the Senate has voted the bill or water it down to make it useless??
D Lama will he at last stand up and make more noise of just lie low


Biden's admin by itself is in no position to change anything. The US Senate/Congress will need to pass some amendments or the like to modify the law itself, which then Biden can sign

nam wrote:Only if the US allows it..people forget Chinis are growing their GDP by selling to their biggest market: US.


There are factions in the US government (SD and Def) that are pitching for decoupling and it is very open in Pompeo's speeches. There is some support in the farm sector, although they have been hurt the most!!

However, the Trump admin itself has at least 2 that vehemently oppose the decoupling. Steven Mnuchin is the biggest road bump, followed closely by the quieter Elain Chao (Sec of transportation and wife of Mitch McConnel).

Then we have a large number of US corporation that at least want laws watered down. Elon Musk has openly stated that China is a better place to conduct business (Tesla's Shanghai Gigafactory is expected to lead in many ways)

Followed by leading educators, one of them is Mary Gallagher (check her twitter handle out). Included are leading profs from Harvard, Stanford, people from the Education dept, etc.



However, India is held as a great example by those who want to decouple. In fact, Gorden G, Chang, just last week tweeted that China is planning on causing problems by supporting a strike at the plant in India manufacturing parts for the iPhone.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby g.sarkar » 29 Dec 2020 03:39

https://www.sundayguardianlive.com/news ... an-sailors
No doctors unless you are on deathbed: China tells stranded Indian sailors
Dibyendu Mondal, December 27, 2020

At least 41 Indian sailors aboard two ships have been stranded off the coast in China for over seven months now, with no respite being seen for these sailors in the near future.
The two ships that have been stranded off the coast in China’s Bohai Sea are a Swiss-Italian MV Anastasia and an Indian flag bearing ship known as the Indian bulk carrier Jag Anand. While the Indian Jag Anand has 25 Indian sailors on board the ship, the Swiss-Italian Anastasia has 16 Indians onboard.
These two ships were carrying Australian coking coal to China, but owing to growing economic and political tensions between Australia and China, the Chinese government decided not to offload the coking coal that was being brought in from Australia into China, leaving the crew members of the ship with no option but to stay put with the ship.
These two ships are currently at the Caofeidian anchorage point in Bohai Sea in China and just about 30 km away from the Chinese port of Jingtang.
Government of India is talking with the Chinese government to help bring back these stranded sailors, but China is not budging.
The Sunday Guardian reached out to the crew members who have been stranded on these two ships off the coast of China and they say that they feel exhausted and helpless being stranded for the last seven months. Gaurav Singh, a resident of Pune and one of the crew members on board the Swiss-Italian MV Anastasia that is currently anchored at the Caofeidian Anchorage point in Chinese waters, told The Sunday Guardian over telephone, “We have been stranded here for the last seven months now; the ship is standing at the same place for all these months. We are mentally exhausted. Most of the crew members here are over 60 years old and many of them are slowly slipping into depression, since there is still no certainty over when we can go back home. Our future looks very bleak. One of our crew members also tried to commit suicide. Please save us, please take us out of here. We want to be with our family, they are also worried.” Gaurav Singh also said that many of his crew members have started to develop skin problems due to the “contaminated” water supply from the Chinese side and the prolonged stay of the crew on water.
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Gautam

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby sanjaykumar » 29 Dec 2020 03:42

Aren’t there any Chinese ships coming into Indian waters?

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby nandakumar » 29 Dec 2020 08:07

What should a shipping company do if a port authority refuses to allow a ship to berth?

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby hemant_sai » 29 Dec 2020 10:53

g.sarkar wrote:https://www.sundayguardianlive.com/news/no-doctors-unless-deathbed-china-tells-stranded-indian-sailors
No doctors unless you are on deathbed: China tells stranded Indian sailors
Dibyendu Mondal, December 27, 2020

At least 41 Indian sailors aboard two ships have been stranded off the coast in China for over seven months now, with no respite being seen for these sailors in the near future.
Gautam


If same situation would be with USA citizens, how USA would have reacted?
When terrorist attack happens on USA or France, do they seek our approval to hit them back.

Before dreaming for superpower status we just need to introspect on reality. Just by accumulating military assets it is not going to happen.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Varoon Shekhar » 29 Dec 2020 22:56

What are India's options on this ridiculous stranded sailors issue, and where is the general public outrage? There is no controversy here.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby darshan » 29 Dec 2020 23:00

General public outrage may be termed as vomit. Following bureaucracy in India is considered to be a moral stand and more valuable than silly outrages over dead soldiers. Forget about sailors.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Varoon Shekhar » 29 Dec 2020 23:06

Why does India have any dealings with these basta*ds? Indians should show some pride, and boycott everything Chinese. Ban everyone Chinese from entering India. Okay, pay a little more for an Indian or non-Chinese alternative.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Ashokk » 30 Dec 2020 00:01

In Don’t fly in Chinese nationals, Centre informally tells airlines
NEW DELHI: In a strong retaliatory push :roll: , India has asked all airlines informally not to fly Chinese nationals into the country. This comes after China’s not-so-subtle move to stop Indians from flying into their country, something that has only tightened since November.
While flights between India and China are currently suspended, Chinese nationals eligible to travel as per current norms for foreigners have been doing so by first flying to a third country with which India has a travel bubble. And from there, they fly to India. In addition, Chinese nationals living in air bubble countries have also been flying to India from there for work and business.
Over the past weekend, airlines — both Indian and foreign — have been specifically asked not to fly Chinese nationals to India. At the moment tourist visas to India remain suspended but foreigners are allowed to travel here on work and some other categories of non-tourist visas. Industry sources say a majority of Chinese nationals flying to India have been coming from air bubble countries in Europe.
Some airlines, it is learned, asked the authorities to give them something in writing so that they can give reason for denying boarding to Chinese nationals booked on flights to India as per current norms.
New Delhi's response comes when Indian seafarers are stranded in various Chinese ports because China is refusing to allow them on shore, or even to change crew. This has affected almost 1,500 Indians serving on international flag merchant vessels as they can’t even come back home.
Though the target is Australia, whose coal is now banned by China, Indians seafarers have taken a big collateral hit and Beijing does not seem to be willing to organise immediate relief. Questioned this week, the Chinese foreign ministry lobbed the ball back in the courts of local authorities. But officials say there are no permissions forthcoming from any local authority. The Chinese government has given a list of steps to be followed, but, Indian officials say, they are designed to frustrate efforts.
In early November, China had suspended the entry of foreign nationals holding valid Chinese visas or residence permits from some countries including India due to the pandemic. "The Chinese embassy/consulates in India will not stamp the health declaration forms for the holders of the above-mentioned categories of visa or residence permits," the Chinese embassy in India had said in a statement on its website on November 5, while exempting some categories of visa holders like diplomats.
"The entry into China with visas issued after November 3, 2020 is not affected… suspension is a temporary measurement that China has to adopt to deal with the current pandemic. China will make further adjustment and announcement in accordance with the ongoing pandemic situation in a timely manner," the statement had said.
China’s decision had come after almost 20 passengers of an Air India Vande Bharat Mission Delhi-Wuhan flight of October 30 had tested Covid positive and another 40 were found to have Covid antibodies on arrival.
China’s special administrative region of Hong Kong suspends airlines for 14 days if five or more passengers on any single flight test positive on arrival. Hong Kong has so far barred AI four times and Vistara once during the pandemic for this reason.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby KLNMurthy » 30 Dec 2020 01:25

Rsatchi wrote:https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/trump-signs-tibet-policy-to-preempt-chinese-move-on-dalai-lamas-succession/articleshow/79988543.cms
Trump's parting gift!!
What does it mean in real terms??
Will the Biden presidency be able to reverse these decisions even though the Senate has voted the bill or water it down to make it useless??
D Lama will he at last stand up and make more noise of just lie low

Probably not Trump’s doing as such. Some US Congress person stuck the Tibet provision into the spending bill, and Trump just signed the whole package.

Would be more useful to find out which Congress person put that clause in the bill.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby KLNMurthy » 30 Dec 2020 01:27

hemant_sai wrote:
g.sarkar wrote:https://www.sundayguardianlive.com/news/no-doctors-unless-deathbed-china-tells-stranded-indian-sailors
No doctors unless you are on deathbed: China tells stranded Indian sailors
Dibyendu Mondal, December 27, 2020

At least 41 Indian sailors aboard two ships have been stranded off the coast in China for over seven months now, with no respite being seen for these sailors in the near future.
Gautam


If same situation would be with USA citizens, how USA would have reacted?
When terrorist attack happens on USA or France, do they seek our approval to hit them back.

Before dreaming for superpower status we just need to introspect on reality. Just by accumulating military assets it is not going to happen.


Sure. I’ll tell Modi to disband the military because of this brilliant nugget of wisdom from you.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Varoon Shekhar » 30 Dec 2020 02:36

I hope any ship with an Indian crew that has even half a brain, refuses to go to China. And will cite the experience of the 41 sailors as a reason. No matter under which flag the carrier travels. Of course, if it's an Indian owned one, there shouldn't be even the slightest hesitation to refuse.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby DavidD » 30 Dec 2020 06:46

nandakumar wrote:What should a shipping company do if a port authority refuses to allow a ship to berth?


I think they just go somewhere else that'll allow them to dock. Isn't that what happened with the Beirut explosion? The ship was supposed to ship fertilizers to an African country, but was denied docking, so the crew docked it at Beirut and eventually just left the load there and left. There are other ships carrying Australian coal, lobster, wine, etc. etc. that's been denied docking at China, what are they doing?

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby nandakumar » 30 Dec 2020 09:24

DavidD wrote:
nandakumar wrote:What should a shipping company do if a port authority refuses to allow a ship to berth?


I think they just go somewhere else that'll allow them to dock. Isn't that what happened with the Beirut explosion? The ship was supposed to ship fertilizers to an African country, but was denied docking, so the crew docked it at Beirut and eventually just left the load there and left. There are other ships carrying Australian coal, lobster, wine, etc. etc. that's been denied docking at China, what are they doing?

This raises another question. So why in this case the two ships are waiting for 7 months to somehow to melt the hearts of Chinese port authorities and they would allow the ships to dock. Possibly they are running low on fuel and can't divert to any nearby port. A worse possibility is that the Chinese coast guard has boarded the ship and the Captain and the crew are held hostage.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby KLNMurthy » 30 Dec 2020 14:59

nandakumar wrote:
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This raises another question. So why in this case the two ships are waiting for 7 months to somehow to melt the hearts of Chinese port authorities and they would allow the ships to dock. Possibly they are running low on fuel and can't divert to any nearby port. A worse possibility is that the Chinese coast guard has boarded the ship and the Captain and the crew are held hostage.

The news article should have addressed such questions. Instead we are left to speculate.

Could it be some business decision of the ships’ owners that is compelling the ships to remain in this untenable situation?

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Manish_P » 31 Dec 2020 18:20

Not sure if this is the most appropriate thread

Loan apps scam: Police stunned by the Rs 21,000 crore loan racket

Sleuths probing the countrywide illegal instant loan app case, involving Chinese national, Zhu Wei said four companies run by him carried out Rs 1.4 crore transactions worth nearly Rs 21,000 crore. :shock: The scale of the racket can be gauged from the fact that Rs 21,000 crore is a total loss that the domestic airline industry is likely to face in 2020 because of the pandemic and travel restrictions. These transactions have happened over payment gateways and bank accounts linked to these companies, Hyderabad joint commissioner of police (detective department Avinash Mohanty said "Most of the transactions have happened in the past six months. We do not know whether the 1.4 crore transactions were meant only for disbursement of loans and collecting the money or if there are other reasons. We need to see if there are any hawala transactions too," Mohanty added.

Sleuths said they were also shocked to learn they had unearthed a scam worth Rs 21,000 crore and ran multiple checks. "We were literally counting zeroes so to say" said a senior officer associated with the probe at the Central Crime station. After his arrest, Wei claimed that he does not know English, but when the cops began sustained interrogation and said they would get an interpreter if needed, he finally started to speak in broken English. "He initially claimed that he has no knowledge of the business, but when we opened his laptop, we found details of his employees, various business transactions. However, he was mostly tight-lipped about the business,'' an officer told TOI. Wei was staying in an apartment in Delhi during the lockdown and shuttled between India and China regularly. His passport revealed, he went to Indonesia. Meanwhile, investigations revealed companies used to make transactions in crores, many in bitcoins.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby chetak » 31 Dec 2020 19:15

Varoon Shekhar wrote:I hope any ship with an Indian crew that has even half a brain, refuses to go to China. And will cite the experience of the 41 sailors as a reason. No matter under which flag the carrier travels. Of course, if it's an Indian owned one, there shouldn't be even the slightest hesitation to refuse.


The crews are generally mixed flag and the ship is usually not Indian owned or even Indian flagged.

The few Indian crew on such ships may simply have no choice in the matter other than jumping into the water mid ocean.

also, mutiny is a very serious matter

If it is an Indian owned ship, then what you say has merit.

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Postby g.sarkar » 01 Jan 2021 19:55

https://www.rediff.com/news/report/indi ... 210101.htm
India seeks assistance for sailors stranded in Chinese waters
Source: PTI - Edited By: Utkarsh Mishra, January 01, 2021

India on Friday called for 'urgent, practical and time-bound' assistance to 39 stranded Indian sailors on board two ships in Chinese waters considering the 'grave' humanitarian situation developing in the vessels.
Ministry of External Affairs (MEA) Spokesperson Anurag Srivastava said Indian bulk cargo vessel MV Jag Anand has been on anchorage near Jingtang port in Hebei province of China since June 13 and it has 23 Indian sailors.
Another vessel, MV Anastasia, with 16 Indian nationals as its crew is on anchorage near Caofeidian port in China since September 20, he said.
Srivastava said both these vessels have been waiting for discharge of their cargo and there is a growing stress on the crew members on account of the long delay.
Given this and our concern for the increasingly difficult conditions for our crew members, these two cases are being pursued vigorously," he said responding to a media query on the matter. Srivastava said the Indian Embassy in Beijing continued to remain in close and continuous touch with the Chinese authorities in Beijing, Hebei and Tianjin, adding the MEA is also following up on the matter through the Chinese Embassy here for 'an early resolution'.
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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Varoon Shekhar » 01 Jan 2021 23:21

Are there nationals of other countries( Italy, Australia?) on board those ships as well? Or are they all Indian

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https://thediplomat.com/2020/12/amid-us ... he-moment/
Amid US-China Tensions, Tibetans Seize the Moment
A Tibetan leader presses the U.S. to punish China for crimes against humanity.
By Kevin Holden, December 30, 2020

President Lobsang Sangay, who heads the Tibetan government-in-exile, says his intense shuttle diplomacy with American leaders over the past year has led to a series of victories for Tibet’s embattled monks and monasteries, Buddhist pilgrims, and pacifist protesters.
Sangay explains in an interview that his recent breakthrough meetings at the White House, and with a bipartisan coalition of leaders on Capitol Hill, might ultimately help halt the waves of killings that Chinese armed forces have carried out over the past half-century to crush calls for religious and political freedom in Tibet.
China’s serial use of lethal force against unarmed protesters across the Tibetan Plateau has been documented in detail by the U.N.’s Committee against Torture. Sangay says his allies in the U.S. government could potentially stop these atrocities by imposing Global Magnitsky Act sanctions on Chinese Communist Party (CCP) leaders found responsible for ordering troops to open fire on Buddhist dissidents.
The Harvard-educated Sangay has spent 2020 shuttling between Washington D.C. and Dharamsala, the ever-expanding sanctuary India’s government has provided for the Dalai Lama and tens of thousands of exiled Tibetans, to formulate a common strategy on reaching that goal.
During a whirlwind of talks over the past weeks, he says, “I have met White House officials and staff members from both the President’s and the Vice President’s Office.”
Buddhist leaders and worshippers across the Himalayas are likely to celebrate his groundbreaking invitation to the White House because it “represents hope for the Tibetans and is also a mark of solidarity of the White House with Tibetans in Tibet and the Tibet cause.”
Just before that meeting, the U.S. State Department issued an official determination that: “In gross violation of the principles set forth in the 1948 Universal Declaration of Human Rights, the CCP maintains a military occupation of Tibet that dates to the 1950s.”
That means, Sangay says, the U.S. government has officially acknowledged that Tibet was independent before People’s Liberation Army troops marched into the Buddhist kingdom in 1950.
The explosion of support for Tibet across the American political arena has even included one call in the House of Representatives for the United States to affirm Tibet’s independence. With his proposed Free Tibet Act of 2020, Congressman Scott Perry seeks “To authorize the President to recognize the Tibet Autonomous Region of the People’s Republic of China as a separate, independent country.”
In a follow-up missive he dispatched in mid-December, Perry urged the White House to censure “more than 70 years of uninterrupted, illegal occupation of Tibet by the People’s Republic of China.”
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