Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby chanakyaa » 03 Jan 2021 05:07

Guddu wrote:Chinese funding worldwide
https://www.lynalden.com/wp-content/upl ... -loans.jpg
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The article in which this pic appears, is worth 1000x more than the pic. Good old topics of Bretton Woods, Petro Dollar, Rise of China etc..but worth a read. I'll post it in the econ thread as well.

The Fraying of the US Global Currency Reserve System
Since autumn of 2019, I’ve been bearish on the dollar, meaning I have a longish-term outlook towards a weaker dollar.

This view began forming when the Federal Reserve cut interest rates in summer 2019, and then the view solidified with a catalyst after an overnight repo rate spike in September 2019 forced the Fed to begin supplying repo liquidity.

In my October 2, 2019 article, “The Most Crowded Trade“, I said to look for a weaker dollar in 2020, and also stated that the Fed would likely start expanding its balance sheet by buying Treasuries in 2020 or perhaps as early as that quarter in 2019 due to oversupply.

Days later, the Fed indeed announced that they will begin buying Treasuries, and as of this writing well over a year later, they haven’t stopped.


The Structure of the Global Monetary System
* Gold Standard Pre-1944
* Bretton Woods System 1944-1971
* Petrodollar System 1974-Present
The Great Petrodollar Bull/Bear Cycle
* Causes for the Cycle
* 1980s Dollar Cycle
* 1990s/2000s Dollar Cycle
* 2010s/2020s Dollar Cycle
The Fraying of the Petrodollar System
* A System Without a Purpose
* Shrinking US Share of Global GDP
* Multi-Currency International Trade
* China Subverting the System
* Eating Our Own Cooking
* Triffin’s Dilemma Unfolds
The Intermediate-Term Outlook
* The Dollar vs Other Currencies
The Long-Term Outlook
* The Slow Restructuring Option
* The Fast Restructuring Option
What the Next System Looks Like
* Decentralized Energy Pricing
* Digital Global Bancor
* Digital Regional Bancors
* Gold as a Reserve Asset
* Bitcoin as a Reserve Asset
Summary Thoughts

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby SSridhar » 03 Jan 2021 15:50

This is about some Chinese trying to neuter Indians.

After letting loose Wuhan China Coronavirus on the world, the Chinese are engaged in every way to take advantage of it.

Two Chinese held in loan app case, Rs 300 crore under lens - ToI
The Chennai police have arrested four people, including two Chinese nationals, and unearthed an extensive network of illegal micro-financing apps offering instant loans at interest rates as high as 36%. According to police sources, more than two dozen illegal apps which could have cumulatively disbursed Rs 300 crore in sums ranging from Rs 5,000 to Rs 50,000 to more than one lakh people across the country have been unearthed.

“The source of the money and to whom and how was the principal and interest credited back is not known and is being probed,” an official said. Two bank accounts with Rs 48 lakh and Rs 1.96 crore balance in ICICI Bank and RBL Bank branches in Bengaluru have been frozen by police.

While two Chinese nationals Xia Ya Mau, 38, and Yuvan Lun, 28, have been arrested, two others, Hong and Wandish, managed to escape to Singapore.

Two others from Karnataka S Pramoda of Doopanahalli and C R Pavan of Chikkanahally too were arrested and remanded in judicial custody in Chennai. “Though the Karnataka duo were cited as ‘directors’ of many of these lending companies, they were paid Rs 20,000 as monthly salary, while the Chinese took full possession of cheque leaves, ATM debit cards and the company’s internet banking access credentials,” said a senior official of Central Crime Branch.

A CCB team worked on the racket for 20 days and camped in Bengaluru for about a week to nab the suspects.

The Chennai breakthrough has come after the suicide of at least four men in Telangana and one in Bengaluru owing to shaming and humiliation meted out to them by recovery agents engaged by these loan app firms.

Over 100 hired at ₹8K/month to harass loan defaulters

At least five more Chinese nationals have been arrested in different parts of the country, including Delhi, in recent weeks.

Commending the CCB team, Chennai city commissioner of police Mahesh Kumar Aggarwal said: “We are looking into the flow of money to the company -- True Kindle Technologies Solutions Private Limited -- floated by the Chinese. The two arrested Chinese nationals have been staying even after the expiry of their visa period.”

Another officer said they would engage a translator to interrogate the suspects and obtain more information about their apps after taking them into police custody. The laptops and mobiles seized from them will be scruitinized.

The officer said CCB has sent requests to Google Play Store to suspend 25 mobile applications as they are illegal and existed against the investment as well as lending norms in the country.

Pramoda and Pavan told the CCB sleuths that they came across an online advertisement posted by the Chinese requiring them to set up a call centre in Bengaluru. “Their role was to register a company and recruit tele-callers, while the money part was taken care of by the Chinese. More than 100 telecallers were recruited at Rs 8,000 as monthly salary and they were given a target of at least 10 loan referrals every day. “Their job was to make abusive phone calls to defaulting customers, access the contact list of the defaulters and shame them by sending messages to all their contacts. The concept of micro-lending apps became popular only after the Covid-19 lockdown came into effect in March 2020,” said a CCB official.

After three of the customers caught in the debt trap committed suicide in a single month, Hyderabad police have arrested a Chinese national and 15 others and registered 27 cases.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby darshan » 03 Jan 2021 20:17

This micro loan issue is one more example of great law following Indian bureaucracy. One can only say that they should continue to set such examples.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby SSridhar » 03 Jan 2021 21:19

Chinese firm gets contract for construction of underground stretch of Delhi-Meerut RRTS project - New Indian Express

The National Capital Region Transport Corporation (NCRTC) has awarded a contract to a Chinese company, Shanghai Tunnel Engineering Company Limited, for the construction of a 5.6-kilometre underground stretch, from New Ashok Nagar to Sahibabad, of the Delhi-Meerut RRTS project.

The NCRTC, which is executing the country's first Regional Rapid Rail Transit System (RRTS), said the contract was awarded following the set procedure and guidelines.

"Approvals have to be taken at various levels for bids that are funded by multilateral agencies. This bid was also awarded following the set procedure and guidelines.

"Now, all the civil work tenders of the 82-km-long Delhi-Ghaziabad-Meerut corridor have been awarded and the construction is going on in full swing to commission the project in time," an NCRTC spokesperson said.

A controversy had erupted in June last year after the STEC emerged as the lowest bidder for the construction of the 5.6-km tunnel on one of the stretches of the Delhi-Meerut RRTS project amid a standoff between India and China along the Line of Actual Control (LAC) in Ladakh.

The 82-km-long Delhi-Ghaziabad-Meerut RRTS corridor is being funded by the Asian Development Bank (ADB) and procurement is governed by the guidelines of the bank and the government.

According to the ADB's procurement guidelines, vendors from all member countries of the bank are eligible to participate in the bidding process without any discrimination.


The NCRTC had invited bids for the construction of the tunnel from New Ashok Nagar to Sahibabad of Delhi Ghaziabad Meerut RRTS corridor on November 9, 2019.

Five companies submitted technical bids and all the five bidders qualified in the technical bid evaluation.

The financial bids were opened after obtaining the NOC on Technical Bid Evaluation from the ADB.

Of the five firms, Shanghai Tunnel Engineering Company Limited emerged as the L1 bidder for the tender after qualifying on all the parameters and the contract was awarded to it.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby chola » 03 Jan 2021 23:13

^^^ Nuts. Banning chini apps won't affect the CCP much. They themselves are going after Alibaba, TikTok and other chini SM/SW companies because they erode their manic control over the Chinese populace. Where you hurt them are bans against their infrastructure and manufacturing firms which mainly SOEs. But here we are awarding contracts to them.

Just absolutely insane.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Manish_P » 04 Jan 2021 11:43

SSridhar wrote:This is about some Chinese trying to neuter Indians.

After letting loose Wuhan China Coronavirus on the world, the Chinese are engaged in every way to take advantage of it.

Two Chinese held in loan app case, Rs 300 crore under lens - ToI
The Chennai police have arrested four people, including two Chinese nationals, and unearthed an extensive network of illegal micro-financing apps offering instant loans at interest rates as high as 36%. According to police sources, more than two dozen illegal apps which could have cumulatively disbursed Rs 300 crore in sums ranging from Rs 5,000 to Rs 50,000 to more than one lakh people across the country have been unearthed.


Sridhar ji, is this related to the article i posted on the previous page or something different? That article mentions 1.4 cr transactions worth a whopping 21000 crores!

For quick reference -

Loan apps scam: Police stunned by the Rs 21,000 crore loan racket

Sleuths probing the countrywide illegal instant loan app case, involving Chinese national, Zhu Wei said four companies run by him carried out 1.4 crore transactions worth nearly Rs 21,000 crore. :shock: These transactions have happened over payment gateways and bank accounts linked to these companies, Hyderabad joint commissioner of police (detective department Avinash Mohanty said "Most of the transactions have happened in the past six months. We do not know whether the 1.4 crore transactions were meant only for disbursement of loans and collecting the money or if there are other reasons. We need to see if there are any hawala transactions too," Mohanty added.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby TKiran » 04 Jan 2021 12:41

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I received this SMS five minutes back. So it looks like only the tip of the iceberg has been seen. There's lot more to it than appears...

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby SSridhar » 04 Jan 2021 14:39

Manish_P wrote: is this related to the article i posted on the previous page or something different? That article mentions 1.4 cr transactions worth a whopping 21000 crores!

We are in dark, As TK says, if these SMSs continue to be sent, there are many operatives still on the loose.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby SSridhar » 04 Jan 2021 14:42

Jack Ma has disappeared? - ToI
As Chinese regulators intensified their crackdown on Jack Ma's Ant Group, speculations are rife that the billionaire is missing.

Jack Ma has reportedly not made a public appearance in over two months. Speculations about his whereabouts intensified when Ma failed to appear as judge in the final episode of his own show, Africa's Business Heroes.

The flamboyant co-founder of Alibaba and Ant Group has not made a public appearance since Ant's initial public offer (IPO) was suspended in November. He was advised not to leave the country by the government.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby rohiths » 04 Jan 2021 14:50

He is doing a refresher course on Socialism with Chinese characteristics in a reeducation camp. Will be back shortly

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby A Nandy » 04 Jan 2021 16:31

with very different characteristics.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby kit » 04 Jan 2021 21:14

SSridhar wrote:
Manish_P wrote: is this related to the article i posted on the previous page or something different? That article mentions 1.4 cr transactions worth a whopping 21000 crores!

We are in dark, As TK says, if these SMSs continue to be sent, there are many operatives still on the loose.


I wonder if those untraceable Chinese phones with fake IMEI s are being used as portals for such scams ?!., also interesting to think what can happen with a Chinese 5G network with full access to Indian networks !!!

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby darshan » 04 Jan 2021 22:13

The loan business thru apps was going on for awhile. That should not upset anyone's stomach. However, Indian stomach should be upset at inaction of GoI. It doesn't take rocket science to know what has been happening or going on within the country. It was all out in open. There were even many news articles on and off about "suicides" and connection to loan apps. Though the bureaucracy is excellent at processing bidders so that should suffice and everything should be fine. The GoI continues to not recognize the enemy. Forget about treating enemy at enemy. It took dead soldiers to ban token apps. Somehow excellent bureaucracy included gaming and dating apps but forgot the loan apps. All RBI did after being caught with pants down was to issue a circular recommending xyz about the apps instead of demanding an immediate action from other bureaucracies about it.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby kit » 04 Jan 2021 22:57

I guess it might be a good idea to ban ALL Chinese apps. Unless proved otherwise , they are all detrimental to the economy and people.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby DavidD » 05 Jan 2021 00:52

kit wrote:I guess it might be a good idea to ban ALL Chinese apps. Unless proved otherwise , they are all detrimental to the economy and people.


An Indian app could do the same thing, it could even use Chinese money since in this instance the app is nothing special unlike say TikTok. You need to crack down on these predatory lending practices in general. It's basically payday lending on steroids, supercharged by the accessibility afforded by smartphone apps.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby g.sarkar » 05 Jan 2021 03:33

rohiths wrote:He is doing a refresher course on Socialism with Chinese characteristics in a reeducation camp. Will be back shortly

No big deal, Even Eleven had graduated from such refresher courses. Comes with the territory called the Sugarland.
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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby SSridhar » 05 Jan 2021 08:52

DavidD wrote:
kit wrote:I guess it might be a good idea to ban ALL Chinese apps. Unless proved otherwise , they are all detrimental to the economy and people.


An Indian app could do the same thing, . . .

It doesn't matter what an Indian App can or cannot do. That doesn't mean that a bunch of Chinese can come into my country, swindle people and take away the money. After all, China is an enemy country. Let us not get into metaphysics.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby nandakumar » 05 Jan 2021 09:22

One aspect of loan app story that intrigued me was whether the arrested Chinese nationals funneled foreign exchange clandestinely through some kind of money laundering transaction and used it in their loan business. In which case it is a FEMA law violation plus anti-money laundering law violation. Else abetment to suicide and threat of use of force are criminal law offences then it is State police issue.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby kit » 05 Jan 2021 13:32

nandakumar wrote:One aspect of loan app story that intrigued me was whether the arrested Chinese nationals funneled foreign exchange clandestinely through some kind of money laundering transaction and used it in their loan business. In which case it is a FEMA law violation plus anti-money laundering law violation. Else abetment to suicide and threat of use of force are criminal law offences then it is State police issue.


Interestingly "enterprising" Chinese are using their money in other foreign countries as well, touting "better forex rates" and "investments" and using "girls" and certain apps to route the whole scheme., the buggers are active everywhere.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby DavidD » 05 Jan 2021 13:42

SSridhar wrote:
DavidD wrote:
An Indian app could do the same thing, . . .

It doesn't matter what an Indian App can or cannot do. That doesn't mean that a bunch of Chinese can come into my country, swindle people and take away the money. After all, China is an enemy country. Let us not get into metaphysics.


And I'm saying that a bunch of Chinese can do the same exact thing with an Indian app. It's the money behind it that's swindling people, not the app itself.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby m_saini » 05 Jan 2021 14:32

DavidD wrote:And I'm saying that a bunch of Chinese can do the same exact thing with an Indian app. It's the money behind it that's swindling people, not the app itself.


The problem isn't just the money behind the scam. The problem is also the people behind it and so it's going to be treated differently.

Just like CCP would treat a couple of indians, running a similar scam in Beijing, different than a couple of members of Han master race. It isn't exactly a hard concept to grasp.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby ArjunPandit » 05 Jan 2021 16:23

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/bus ... 108017.cms
most likely being used as a front to manage chinese demand

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby darshan » 05 Jan 2021 19:38

The problem is very simple. Your enemy can't be in your territory with ability to generate money transactions. One needs money and transactions to hide other activities like terrorism, protests, espionage, buy influence, etc. Various money moving apps didn't go unreported for awhile without money being exchanged. chinese have been found to be involved in drugs to havala. Now combine that with chinese being involved in infrastructure to providing mobile phones.

India is openly providing chinese everything required to sabotage India.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby ArjunPandit » 05 Jan 2021 23:14

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/01/05 ... of-freedom?

Aal is well in china now..and NYT is back to their old ways with buy them administration coming back...

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby darshan » 06 Jan 2021 22:16

I'm sure all the paperwork was duly filed and reviewed in accordance to Indian law by British Indian bureaucracy.
Made-In-India Baggage Scanners Flourish Thanks To Govt's Import Ban On Chinese Products
https://swarajyamag.com/insta/made-in-i ... e-products
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Vehant Technologies is amongst the first companies to locally develop the machines as it manufactures 500-600 x-ray baggage scanners on a yearly basis. Bardeja revealed that around 25-30 per cent of components required in production are still imported. However, the developers began purchasing these items from western markets following the regulations introduced to curb Chinese imports from May 2020 onward.
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https://www.rediff.com/news/special/lad ... 210106.htm
Subramanian Swamy: China, India must cease hostilities
By SUBRAMANIAN SWAMY, January 06, 2021

The onus today is on China, but it also requires a little diplomatic finesse from India, backed by a modernised armed force, argues BJP MP Subramanian Swamy in this excerpt from his new book, Himalayan Challenge: India, China And The Quest For Peace.
It is equally important to understand reactions of China's India watchers. At one end are those who believe that the current conflict is an 'inevitable development' of the covert strategy of India for an infrastructure race at the LAC. Hence, the upset PLA wants 'to teach India a lesson', as in 1962. Of course, subsequent events ended up with China learning a lesson instead.
The Indian government, ruled since 2014 by the BJP, is made of sterner stuff. At this juncture in time, India, burdened with the COVID-19 pandemic, has yet not been able to reverse what the PLA had taken by nibbling away since 2002 and encroaching on the mutually agreed 1993 LAC.
On the other side of the debate there are those influential political scientists, who in their analysis of the Galwan Valley incident, have been concerned about China's policies towards India, which they say remain mostly tactical, of a 'reactive nature', and are characteriSed by a 'tit-for-tat' approach, but devoid of any clear strategic intent.
This, according to them, stokes aggressive nationalism in India, which not only harms China's interests, but might eventually draw China into an untimely global military conflict.
China, they argue, has failed to fathom that India, as a rising power, is very important to enable China-India relations to evolve for global positioning as the most important pair of relations after China-US.
If China-India ties are damaged beyond repair, they warn, India alone or in association with other countries will cause 'endless trouble for China'. For instance, an openly hostile India will use every possible means to prevent China from reaching the Indian Ocean.
Moreover, the ending of China-India relations will strengthen the encirclement of China by the US, India, Japan, Australia, Vietnam, Indonesia and other nations, who will actively take the initiative of reshaping global industrial chains and the Indo-Pacific Strategy to checkmate China's military and economic power, and to expand international organisations such as the G7 to reduce China's influence in international affairs.
Strategically too, the alternate view is that it is 'unwise' for China to get into a military conflict with India, which is a large country with commensurate and thus comparable military strength at this point in time.
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Postby darshan » 07 Jan 2021 23:23

Indian bureaucracy has been excellent at servicing Indian public interests in lawful manners. Ah the chinese. The gift that continues giving. Hindi chini bhai bhai.

PIL in Madras High Court seeks ban on Instant Money lending apps sans RBI permit
https://www.wionews.com/india-news/pil- ... mit-355138
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Representing the petitioner, advocate A.Kannan pointed out that advertisements of such apps appeared while using smartphones and instigated users to avail instant loans. When the debtor fails to repay the loan within the prescribed time the tele-callers of the money lending company and their henchmen will start their continuous verbal and physical abuse, which drives the debtor to end their life.

“The recovery teams of such instant money lenders are insulting the debtor by circulating their picture in WhatsApp groups showing them as a “defaulter" which is nothing but infringing the rights of privacy and dignity as enshrined in the Constitution of India” read the PIL, mentioning instances of individuals having been forced to take the extreme step.

The PIL appealed to the Court to pass an order restraining Google from hosting online money lending apps which seek exorbitant interest rates, without prior permission from the RBI. It also sought the intervention of the Government authorities to ban instant loan apps available in the Google play store and other websites. It was also pointed out that a special team must be forced to investigate the shell companies providing digital money lending, where Indian nationals are Directors and Chinese companies are promoting them.

The case is expected to be taken up for hearing on February 3rd.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Rsatchi » 08 Jan 2021 13:25

https://theprint.in/opinion/jack-ma-jus ... ev/581668/
What is Mr Chari contemplating???
is it even possible for a people's revolution to be unleashed in China a la USSR with Gorbachev like person
Mr Chari seems to be dreaming about Jack Ma being such a person!!!

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Postby g.sarkar » 09 Jan 2021 18:02

https://www.rediff.com/news/report/chin ... 210109.htm
Chinese soldier captured in eastern Ladakh
Source: PTI - Edited By: Hemant Waje
Last updated on: January 09, 2021

In a second such incident in nearly three months, a Chinese soldier was apprehended by the Indian Army at the southern bank of Pangong Tso in eastern Ladakh on Friday morning after he transgressed across the Indian side of the Line of Actual Control, official sources said on Saturday.
The capture of the soldier comes amid a massive deployment of troops by the Indian Army and the Chinese People's Liberation Army in eastern Ladakh in view of the tense border standoff that erupted following a clash between the two sides in the Pangong lake area in early May.
In a second such incident in nearly three months, a Chinese soldier was apprehended by the Indian Army at the southern bank of Pangong Tso in eastern Ladakh on Friday morning after he transgressed across the Indian side of the Line of Actual Control, official sources said on Saturday.
The capture of the soldier comes amid a massive deployment of troops by the Indian Army and the Chinese People's Liberation Army in eastern Ladakh in view of the tense border standoff that erupted following a clash between the two sides in the Pangong lake area in early May.
The PLA soldier had transgressed into the Indian side of the LAC and was taken into custody by Indian troops deployed in the area, the sources said.
The Chinese soldier is being dealt with as per laid down procedures and the circumstances under which he had crossed the LAC are being investigated, they added. "The PLA soldier had transgressed across the LAC and was taken into custody by Indian troops deployed in this area. Troops from either side are deployed along the LAC since friction erupted last year due to unprecedented mobilisation and forward concentration by Chinese troops," said a source.
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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Lisa » 09 Jan 2021 23:54

It appears that every house in the neighbourhood has had a free physical copy of The Epoch Times delivered to it this morning. It is full from top to bottom of 16 pages of anti CCP news. A wonderful read. I have never seen such obviously anti Chinese propaganda in all my life.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby darshan » 10 Jan 2021 21:36

Non scientific people don't know what they are talking about. Why would the sane people in US have ever resorted to appeasing chinese before Trump? Taiwan is part of china and uneducated people like Trump don't know anything. Now because of ignorant Trump everyone in US would have to pay extra chinese tax so chinese don't get upset. Thank God, Xiden is just around the corner with the science.

U.S. Removes All Restrictions On Officials’ Dealings With Taiwan, Says It Was Imposed To "Appease The Communist Regime In Beijing”
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The latest move by the outgoing Trump administration, aimed at bolstering Washington’s relationship with Taipei, is likely to incur the wrath of China.

While the Trump administration has been expanding its relationship with the island country, with arms sales and new laws to help Taiwan deal with pressure from China, the latest move goes further.

“Taiwan is a vibrant democracy and reliable partner of the United States, and yet for several decades the State Department has created complex internal restrictions to regulate our diplomats, service members, and other officials’ interactions with their Taiwanese counterparts,” Pompeo said in a statement.

“Today I am announcing that I am lifting all of these self-imposed restrictions,” he said, calling them “null and void”. He added that the US government had originally put them in place “in an attempt to appease the Communist regime in Beijing”.

"Additionally, any and all sections of the Foreign Affairs Manual or Foreign Affairs Handbook that convey authorities or otherwise purport to regulate executive branch engagement with Taiwan via any entity other than the American Institute in Taiwan (AIT) are also hereby voided. The executive branch‘s relations with Taiwan are to be handled by the non-profit AIT, as stipulated in the Taiwan Relations Act." the statement added
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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby m_saini » 10 Jan 2021 21:43

And the chinese strike back

China’s new rules could hit U.S. firms, send a message to Biden

China fired back at the Trump administration on Saturday with new rules that would punish global companies for complying with Washington’s tightening restrictions on doing business with Chinese companies.

As President Donald Trump’s trade war against Chinese companies intensified, the Trump administration prohibited the sale of American technology to Huawei, the Chinese telecommunications giant, and other firms. It also issued rules that punish companies for their ties to the Chinese military and for their involvement in Beijing’s surveillance and suppression of mostly Muslim ethnic minorities in China’s far northwestern region of Xinjiang.

Chinese companies that incur losses because of another party’s compliance with those laws can sue for damages in Chinese courts, according to the Commerce Ministry’s notice. Such a case would be likely to result in a victory for a Chinese plaintiff, since China’s courts are ultimately answerable to the Communist Party.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Vivek K » 10 Jan 2021 23:01

g.sarkar wrote:https://www.rediff.com/news/report/chinese-soldier-captured-in-eastern-ladakh/20210109.htm
[b] Chinese soldier captured in eastern Ladakh

So is this in addition to the 5 that were reported as having crossed over?

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby nam » 11 Jan 2021 01:25

Chinese companies that incur losses because of another party’s compliance with those laws can sue for damages in Chinese courts, according to the Commerce Ministry’s notice. Such a case would be likely to result in a victory for a Chinese plaintiff, since China’s courts are ultimately answerable to the Communist Party.


Brilliant. This is exactly what we want.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby g.sarkar » 13 Jan 2021 03:32

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/c ... 2021-01-11
China pulls out 10,000 troops from depth areas of LAC; sources say possibly due to 'extreme winters'
The Chinese Army has withdrawn around 10,000 soldiers from the depth areas on its side of the Line of Actual Control (LAC). The development has taken place in the traditional training areas of the Chinese Army close to the Indian territory in Ladakh.
Manjeet Negi, New Delhi, January 11, 2021

In a major development, the Chinese Army has withdrawn around 10,000 soldiers from the depth areas on its side of the Line of Actual Control (LAC). The development has taken place in the traditional training areas of the Chinese Army close to the Indian territory in Ladakh. The areas are lying empty at present, top government sources told India Today TV.
The Chinese side had deployed 50,000 troops on the Indian border since March-April last year when the entire world was fighting Covid-19 pandemic.
The troops have been withdrawn from the areas around 200 km from Indian side, possibly due to extreme winters and difficulties in maintaining them there, sources said.
The Indian side has been maintaining an equal number of troops in that sector to counter any further misadventure by the Chinese Army in Ladakh.
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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Rony » 13 Jan 2021 23:44

A history fact-check for China

It is extraordinary that in his seminal book, On China published in 2011, former US National Security Adviser and later Secretary of State, Henry Kissinger, thought it fit to add a prologue devoted to India-China relations. It is laced with factual inaccuracies and appears to be aimed solely at eulogising Mao Zedong’s great abilities as a military strategist. Mao, in fact, drew heavily from Chinese classics and history.

Based on his understanding of Chinese sources, Kissinger writes that in deciding to “knock” India back “to the negotiating table” through military action in 1962, Mao claimed to his commanders that he banked on strategic principles drawn from China’s so-called historical experience of defeating India in “one and a half” wars. Both the examples that Kissinger narrates are clearly ersatz, revealing Kissinger’s insufficient scholarship on ancient India.

The fact is, there was no war between India and China during the Tang period (618-907 CE). There is a reference to a small event in A History of Sino-Indian Relations by Yukteshwar Kumar of Cheena Bhavana, Visva-Bharati University, Santiniketan. It involves a mention of Emperor Harshvardhan sending an emissary to China in 641 CE. After his death and the decline of his empire, Wang Xuanze, the Tang envoy to the court at Thaneswar and his entourage were reportedly attacked by local feudal powers. Apparently, Wang fled to Tibet and sought to regroup before launching a military campaign against some north Indian villages. If this is the story that Mao was referring to, it is apocryphal in terms of its scale and significance. Giving it an exaggerated spin reflects rather poorly on both the narrator and Kissinger, his eager audience.

Throughout history, the extreme fringes of all empires have often waxed and waned, and this was true of both Indian and Chinese empires. However, India and China did not share any border at the time. Tibet then was completely independent and even the mounted soldiers reportedly mustered by Wang Xuanze were obviously Tibetans. Mao was clearly trying to reinterpret historical events in a manner through which Han Chinese chauvinism could lay a vicarious claim to a distant event in the past.

Incidentally, the year 641 CE also coincides with the presence, in India, of the legendary Chinese monk Xuanzang who was still on his peregrinations in search of Buddhist scriptures and other religious and philosophical texts. After nearly 17 years of wandering, including a sojourn at Nalanda University, he carried back with him to Chang’an in China a rich trove, to spread the teachings gathered in India among his fellow Han Chinese. This was no doubt an age marked by the absence of narrow nationalism, one that permitted Chinese monks such as Fa Xian, Xuanzang and Yi Jing from China, and Dharmaratna, Kasyapa Matanga and Bodhidharma from India to travel unfettered to exchange ideas and learnings. Xuanzang’s journey has been recorded in detail in the classical Chinese text Da Tang Xiyu Ji (Great Tang Records on the Western Regions) and, eight centuries on, immortalised by a Ming-era writer, Wu Cheng-en, in his fascinating fictionalised work, Journey to the West.

If Mao was referring to an “Indian kingdom” that approached the Tang court to prevail over another “Indian kingdom” during this period, he was probably referring to the ancient Buddhist kingdom of Kuche, home to the famous fifth-century Buddhist monk Kumarjiva, located on the northern Silk Road in modern-day Xinjiang. The small kingdom of Kuche was then populated by the Kushans and used the Indic script. It was one of the many kingdoms in the “Western Regions” (Xiyu) against which the Tang emperor Taizong waged military campaigns. Kuche, like many other neighbouring kingdoms in Central Asia, was influenced by Indian culture, religion and script, but was distinct from India, which lay south of the Himalayas.

That Kuche, which lay in modern-day Xinjiang, was in the ambit of Indic culture only highlights the limits of Han influence in the region, the alien nature of which the Uigyurs have resisted and challenged through the centuries to this day. Mao, like his Tang predecessors, could not really tell the difference between Tianzhu, as India was known in classical Chinese texts, and Xiyu, or Western Regions, which covered large parts of modern-day Xinjiang and Central Asia.

The second example unquestioningly quoted by Kissinger and attributed to Mao is equally specious. The “half war” in which Mao takes credit for defeating India purportedly took place when Timur (Timur the lame) sacked Delhi in 1398 CE. By no stretch of the imagination could that be claimed as a victory by the Han Chinese, who themselves had only recently overthrown the Mongol yoke of the Yuan dynasty in 1368 CE. The Yuan dynasty, established by Kublai Khan when he conquered Han China, had nothing to do with Timur, who was a member of the Turkicised Barlas tribe, a distant Mongol clan settled in Transoxania, in what is modern-day Uzbekistan.

In fact, Timur had planned to invade China next. In 1404 CE, he set off on an expedition against the Ming dynasty in China. Had he not died of illness in February 1405 at Faryab in contemporary Kazakhstan, not long into his campaign, he too would have been knocking at the gates of the Forbidden Palace in Beijing as many foreign military powers later did in “China’s century of humiliation” before the formation of the People’s Republic of China.

It is a fairly common refrain for Chinese strategists to play up the Chinese PLA as some kind of an invincible force. In 1979, Deng Xiaoping had purportedly said that the Chinese PLA had crossed the southern border to ”teach Vietnam a lesson”. As it turned out, it was the gritty Vietnamese army that taught the Chinese a lesson that they would not forget in a hurry.

Chinese writings often refer to the 1962 border conflict as China having “taught India a lesson”. Of course, they conveniently ignore the drubbing received by the PLA in the military flare-up across Nathu La and Cho La in Sikkim in September 1967. In July 2017, during the Doklam crisis, the hardline Communist Party mouthpiece Global Times had called for teaching India “a bitter lesson” and had issued a thinly-veiled warning that in a military conflict China would inflict “greater losses than in 1962”. Following the unilateral actions by the PLA which led to the on-going stand-off in eastern Ladakh since April this year, the indefatigable Hu Xijin, editor of the Global Times, warned India on the same lines.

Chinese strategists often forget that the age of teaching anyone a lesson is over. Unilateralism and military aggression, especially against a large country like India determined to defend its sovereignty and territorial integrity at any cost, will simply not work. The way forward, to resolve border tensions between India and China, is through dialogue and peaceful negotiations.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby darshan » 14 Jan 2021 07:02

Gotta give it to chinese. Spread the virus first and then run the diplomacy based on the virus mitigation. In normal circumstances, affected countries would have shut the door on chinese delegations and businesses.

China backs Myanmar on Rohingya response with eye on Biden
https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/Intern ... e-on-Biden
YANGON/BEIJING -- Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi promised Beijing's support on Myanmar's handling of ethnic conflicts while meeting with the country's top officials, as part of China's efforts to shore up ties with neighbors ahead of the U.S. presidential handover.
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China will do what it can to help resolve the ethnic conflicts in Myanmar, Wang said. Myanmar faces criticism from the West and from international organizations over the violence against its Rohingya Muslim minority. Military attacks on the Rohingya resulted in 700,000 refugees who fled the country in 2017, and Myanmar faces armed ethnic groups in various regions as well.

Win Myint told Wang that Myanmar "will continue to support China's position on issues related to Taiwan, Tibet and Xinjiang," China's state-run Xinhua News Agency reported.
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The two sides also discussed investments related to China's Belt and Road infrastructure-building initiative. Ahead of Wang's trip, China and Myanmar signed a memorandum of understanding to launch a feasibility study for a rail link between Mandalay, Myanmar's second-largest city, and the Indian Ocean port city of Kyaukphyu.

China is involved in a large-scale port development project in Kyaukphyu and hopes eventually to connect the port to the Chinese province of Yunnan by rail.

Wang visits Indonesia, Brunei and the Philippines before returning home Saturday. He is expected to offer cooperation on vaccines and the economy in these countries as well.
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"The new U.S. government may ratchet up efforts to seduce relevant countries [around the South China Sea] to reduce or abandon cooperation with China," according to a recent opinion piece by the Communist Party-affiliated Global Times. "Vaccine cooperation will likely be high on Wang's agenda."

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Manish_P » 16 Jan 2021 15:30

More.. 3rd or 4th such case within last 2 weeks!

How gang duped 40,000 people via malware app of marketing scheme

NEW DELHI: Twelve people, including two Chinese women and a Tibetan, were arrested by Cyber Cell of Delhi Police for duping people of crores by making them install apps of their marketing scheme, which had malware. These app users were then exploited to create social media influencers. DCP (Cyber Cell) Anyesh Roy said around 40,000 victims were cheated in the last two months. “Almost Rs 4.75 crore was blocked in various bank accounts and Rs 25 lakh in cash was recovered from the Chinese nationals,” he added. The arrested Chinese women, Chaohong Deng Daoyong (27) and Wu Jiazhi (54), belong to the Sichuan province. More arrests are likely.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby darshan » 16 Jan 2021 19:04

Manish_P wrote:More.. 3rd or 4th such case within last 2 weeks!

How gang duped 40,000 people via malware app of marketing scheme

chinese have been at various criminal activities for awhile. What's of importance are the excellent law and order within India, excellent bureaucratic institutes, and the ubiquitous Indian news outlets.

chinese are doing what they have been known to do. No surprise here with chinese electronics everywhere and companies everywhere. Can't blame them for being them.


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