Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

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Peregrine wrote:Prem Ji :

China printing Indian Currency Notes?

Surely Indian "Currency" Printing Presses are capable of meeting India's requirement. Or aren't they?

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chola wrote:Saar, this is the one thing I will give us a pass on. Unlike cellphones or Diwali puja idols, NO ONE will outsource currency printing unless ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY. We will not be printing anywhere else in the world for a few rupees in savings. If we could print it and print it securely at home, it would have remained here. There are only a few places in the world that can print hard to counterfeit note. I know, sounds crazy when Cheen is biggest counterfeit rajah globally.
chola Ji :

Can one unequivocally say THERE WAS NO ABSOLUTE NECESSITY!

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Suraj wrote:ALL Indian currency is printed by by the Security Printing and Minting Corporation of India Limited (SPMCIL). No notes were printed abroad even during Demonetization. The last time notes were printed abroad was in ~1998, when the American Banknote Company and the British De La Rue company printed Rs.500 and Rs.1000 notes briefly. Both contracts were terminated after one batch of about Rs.1 lakh crore, all of which is probably out of circulation now that it's been 20 years. No Indian currency has ever been printed by China.
Suraj Ji :

Thank you for the "Comforting Words" - indeed Music to my ears!

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https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diploma ... ic-islands
Tonga Prime Minister asks China to write off Pacific islands’ debt
Tonga Prime Minister Akalisi Pohiva has called on China to write off the debts owed by Pacific island countries, warning that repayments impose a huge burden on the impoverished nations.

Chinese aid in the Pacific has ballooned in recent years with much of the funds coming in the form of loans from Beijing’s state-run Exim Bank.

Tonga has run-up enormous debts to China, estimated at more than US$100 million by Australia’s Lowy Institute think tank, and Pohiva said his country would struggle to repay them.

He said the situation was common in the Oceania region and needed to be addressed at next month’s Pacific Island Forum summit in Nauru.

“We need to discuss the issue,” he told the Samoa Observer in an interview published on Tuesday.

All the Pacific Island countries should sign this submission asking the Chinese government to forgive their debts.

“To me, that is the only way we can all move forward, if we just can’t pay off our debts.”

Tonga took out the Chinese loans to rebuild in the wake of deadly 2006 riots that razed the centre of the capital Nuku’alofa.

Beijing has previously refused to write-off the loans by turning them into aid grants but did give Tonga an amnesty on repayments.

Pohiva said China now wanted the debts repaid.
Not to say that anything will come out of it BUT bobcorn time? :rotfl: May be or may be not but this is plogless IMVVHO.

A forest fire starts with a spark. This may not be the spark but that spark will come in time. The spark for the demand of Chinese "debt writeoff" has been lit without doubt.
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I know china is the enemy here and loan write-off demands is a positive development for us, but from a neutral pov, where do these nations get off by first spending all the money and then making such ridiculous demands? Is it ethical to make such demands? Should these nations not have thought about repayments before they decided to borrow?
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Chinese desire to fake goes to entire cities as well.
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Govt seeks China role in northeast connectivity plan - Saibal Dasgupta, ToI
India is seeking Chinese participation in a newly-drafted project that involves connecting the northeastern states with Bangladesh’s Chittagong port. Making the pitch is BJP general secretary Ram Madhav and the cabinet ministers of three BJP-ruled states — Assam, Tripura and Nagaland, who are currently in China. Significantly, the team of visitors does not have a minister from Arunachal Pradesh, which borders disputed portions of Tibet in China.

Madhav admitted there are challenges in putting the new plan in place because of China’s claims over Arunachal Pradesh. “We have issues in Arunachal Pradesh... and that remains a challenge,” he said. Madhav’s announcement is significant because India has been reluctant to allow implementation of China’s Belt and Road Initiative across its borders.


He said Chinese investments can be in consumer goods and products like batteries for e-bikes. He did not mention infrastructure development by the Chinese. “Where there is mutually beneficial arrangement possible, there we’ll take them. Where there are concerns, we won’t allow many people there,” he said. Very little has so far been done to improve connectivity in the northeast.

“Southwest China can use the northeast as a hub to go to the Indian Ocean through Chittagong,” said Madav, who is in charge of BJP’s northeast affairs. Madhav said India is developing Bangladesh, Bhutan, India and Nepal as sub-regional hubs and even invited Chinese to use northeast to access the Indian Ocean through Chittagong.

The new plan involves moving goods from the northeast to Chittagong port instead of shipping them all the way from Mumbai and Chennai ports. “Right now, goods to northeast are taken by rail and road from Mumbai or Chennai through Kolkata to Guwahati,” he said.
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^^^just because BJP is the only alternative to other political parties which are desperate to break India into pieces doesn't mean that BJP can do whatever policy decisions based on whims and fancies and other illusions disregarding national security.

Yaak tu...
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http://southasiaanalysis.org/node/2332

By Dr Subhash Kapila



Misgivings on India’s surprise China Policy Reset in March 2018 marking a U-turn from India’s standing tall against China’s military provocations and intrusions in Dokalam analysed in the above referred Paper have largely materialised as evidenced by China’s unceasing buildup at Dkalam and repeat of Dkalam Standoff confrontation in Ladakh in end-July 2018.

Keeping Dokalam aside, China’s overall policies in the post- Wuhan Summit period have shown no positive U-turn from its decades-old ‘India Containment ‘policies, nibbling at India’s traditional areas of influence and now further reinforcing its buildup of Pakistan as the ‘Regional Spoiler State’ by solidifying the China-Pakistan Axis posing a Two War Threat Scenario. In short, China persists in its adversarial and confrontationist postures against India, notwithstanding its flowery rhetoric.

Has India’s U-turn policy of China-Reset Policy ensured that there will be no more Dokalams repeated by China in future? India would be strategically naïve to believe so. China views India in its ascendancy on the global power ladder and in its overall strategy gives priority to checkmating India’s rise.

India’s China Policy Reset was wrongly premised in repetitive flawed readings of China’s intentions by India’s foreign policy establishment emerging seemingly from the new Foreign Secretary having taken over immediately after his tenure as Indian Ambassador to China.

“India and its foreign policy establishment’s most confusing conundrum once again is to clearly define whether in the larger and long range perspectives China is a ‘Friend or Foe’? India’s lack of discerning this distinction makes it ecstatically jump at every crumb of feigned friendship that China spasmodically keeps throwing at India.” So read the Opening Paragraph in my SAAG Paper No.6356 dated 14 March 2018 entitled “India’s Foreign Policy Establishment’s China Policy Conundrum”. This Paper was timed with the reset advocacy debate in March 2018.

A Strategic Reality Check’ post the much hyped Wuhan Summit of reviewing China’s demonstrated geopolitical policy stances and actions in India’s neighbourhood and the Indian Ocean Region in which India has legitimate and major stakes reveal that while India had genuinely attempted to rest its China Policy, there was no matching response from China to do likewise. So what was the Indian foreign policy establishment’s ‘China Policy Reset’ was aimed at?

To me it seems that the factors which prompted the Modi Government to attempt a China Policy Rest was prompted by a number of factors which were totally divorced from prevailing global geopolitical realities in which China stood globally cornered and made a feigned reachout to India tactically but not as a long range policy precept.

Firstly, Indian policy establishment was unnerved and uncertain of US President Trump’s foreign policy directions. This policy panic- attack itself was yet another misreading of United States intentions. United States recognises that India is the pivot around which the successful execution of Indo Pacific security architecture rests. This was evidenced by the US renaming its Pacific Command as the Indo Pacific Command.

Secondly, presumably , the new Foreign Secretary’s readings on China’s intentions after his Beijing stint that a policy reset would bring good results was given primacy. It is amazing how India’s policy establishment could give primacy to one China specialist’s divination of China’s intentions? That too when China was under intense geopolitical pressures. Surprisingly, it did not occur to India’s policy establishment that what China was indulging in was nothing but a serious effort to wean away India from the United States.

Thirdly, what I presume seems to have been an inspired move and what started appearing in orchestrated contours I public TV debates was painting pessimistic scenarios that India with its present military inventories was unable to fight a Two Front War foisted by the China-Pakistan Axis. The implicit underlying message sought to be conveyed such was that India should cool the temperatures in China-India contentious relations. This seems to have had an impact on India’s policy establishment. None of these worthies noticeably advised China to do likewise.

To the credit of Indian Armed Forces Services Chief’s none of them articulated such apprehensions or shared wrong divination of the China Threat to India. On the contrary they sought to assure during this period that they could take up any challenge so posed by China.

In the same Paper referred above, in the Concluding Observations one had taken pains to emphasise for the Indian foreign policy establishment that (1) Recognise that the China Threat to India is REAL and LIVE (2) China Threat should never ever be UNDERPLAYED or DE-EMPHASISED (3) There CANNOT BE TWO DIFFERING VIEWS within the Indian Government of any political dispensation on the “China Threat” between the Ministry of External Affairs and the Defence Ministry.

Finally, the most significant debilitating factor for India when it comes to preparing to ward off any possible China Threat manifestations is that India’s political parties, academia and its intelligentsia with utter disregard to prevailing global geopolitical realities publicly projects DIVIDED PERSPECTIVES on the China Threat and compulsively “politicises National Security Issues”.

Concluding, India’s China Policy Resets are meaningless without matching responses from China as quid pro quos on which India should articulate benchmarks for China to adhere to. India perceptionaly cannot afford to project the image of a push-over State
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SSridhar wrote:Govt seeks China role in northeast connectivity plan - Saibal Dasgupta, ToI
Somebody please tell me there is some chankian plan behind this.
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if we do not take charge of BD and Myanmar economic situation the chinese will anyway. we need to get in the mud pit than sit around in starched white veshti and mundu.

having them economically tied to the prosperity & stability of myanmar and BD will be a good thing.

we need to develop deep state ties with all stripes of movers and shakers in these two - not just whoever is the govt or warlord of the week.

the congress foreign policy of benign neglect of our nearby countries only allowed dark forces to creep into the voids we refused to occupy

bolne mein kya ja raha hein. let us invite even argentina and namibia to invest in that region.

NE states cannot prosper and pull weight without opening of trade routes on all sides. bengal and bihar are not exactly taiwan and japan to pull up NE.
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https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diploma ... o-dutertes
China rejects Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte’s call for rethink and ‘will respond to foreign ships’ in disputed South China Sea
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https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diploma ... atch-south
String of Chinese satellites to keep real-time watch on South China Sea to protect ‘national sovereignty’
China will next year start launching a series of satellites to track water conditions and traffic, and reinforce “national sovereignty” throughout the South China Sea, according to state media.

In all, six optical satellites, two hyperspectral satellites and two radar satellites will keep a real-time daily watch on the contested waters and monitor key areas several times a day as part of the Hainan satellite constellation system, China News Service reported on Monday.
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Prasad wrote:
SSridhar wrote:Govt seeks China role in northeast connectivity plan - Saibal Dasgupta, ToI
Somebody please tell me there is some chankian plan behind this.
This is a stupid idea
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IMO as long as we are not signing any FTA, we should be okay.. and I'd be more interested to know what the Chinese are giving in place of this take.
There is a very clear tilt towards China in BJP from the beginning with senior leaders like Swamy being vocal about it. But at least in this way we would be able to keep an eye on Chinese investments in Beedi which was already happening.
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Lo jee ... karrrrrrrro lo baat!

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/policie ... truth-says
A century on, China still lacks the drive for scientific truth, says outspoken editor
A Chinese state newspaper editor who set off a public debate on the country’s overblown technological strength has said scientific spirit remains scarce, despite the nation being in pursuit of it for a century.

Liu Yadong, chief editor of Science and Technology Daily, said a lack of scientific spirit was often the underlying reason for some of the problems facing China, from weaknesses in fundamental innovation and research, to widespread counterfeiting and fraud, and even arrogance in society. :shock: :-? :rotfl: :rotfl:

Liu’s public criticism two months ago of media hyping of China’s strength is still reverberating in the country, and has coincided with Beijing’s apparent dialling down of rhetoric on its ambitions for global leadership in advanced technologies – one concern of Washington in its trade war with China.

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In my opinion, China in 1919 lacked scientific spirit, and China in 2019 will still lack scientific spirit.
Ideology driven propaganda is no match for real innovation.
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^^^
Think about this. The chief editor of their science and technology propaganda daily is saying this.

Unlike Mao’s PRC, these chinis are examining their faults. I prefer a Cheen whose science propagandist praises itself not one who points to its faults.

This is a chini call to arms on fixing their innovation issues. Not a good thing for us.
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Agree.

This was just to dispel the propaganda that has been spread around here and else where that China has "already" taken a lead over the west in "innovation".

They are good at stealing, copying and building even on a mass scale like no one else I will give them that. It is very very useful to a country like China and one wishes that India has the copying and building gene but that is not innovation.

Indians in general are too eager to embrace that propaganda and get disheartened.
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Well said Pankajs. The shivering over PRCs claimed prowess is ridiculous sometimes.
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pankajs wrote:Agree.

This was just to dispel the propaganda that has been spread around here and else where that China has "already" taken a lead over the west in "innovation".

Indians in general are too eager to embrace that propaganda and get disheartened.
Actually, I think we are too quick to dispel this propaganda and I’ll tell you why.

The vast majority of the chini-science-technology propaganda we read are not actually from Cheen but from the United States. These scaremongering articles are in english and with American bylines. They are there for America’s benefit not Cheen’s.

Why? Because being outpaced by someone should not “dishearten” you, it should be a kick in the arse to get yourself moving. That is the American philosophy. It was the same with the USSR. It is the same now with the PRC.

The US is using Cheen as an incentive to do greater and greater things like it did with the USSR. The PRC uses the US for the same effect.

We see this rivalry with things like super computers, hypersonics, satelite killers, etc. where each chini advance is matched by an American one. It an intense, self-enforcing spiral to greater and greater heights.

Dismissing or dispelling this propaganda gains us nothing except a meaningless psychological pat on the back, “there, there, don’t worry they are not THAT far ahead.”

If the US, with all its great resources and its commanding position in technology, finds it fit to use Cheen as an incentive then we should as well.

Otherwise, we really would be left behind as the Lizard and Unkil will drive themselves into a pinnacle in the coming years and decades.
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^well said. +1. We should be competing and at least trying to outpace china in every facet imaginable instead of resting on assumed laurels. The smartest people incorporate the best from others. There's a lot we can learn from the chinese.
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From more strategic discussion to tactical . . .

India, China open new meeting point for armies - Prabin Kalita, ToI
This Independence Day, India and China opened a new point for officers of the armies of the two countries to meet. The move is being hailed as an “ice-breaker” by Indian defence officials and signalling the beginning of positive relations between the two countries.

The officials met at the relatively low-altitude Kepang la (1,915 m), northwest of Gelling village, where the Yarlong Tsangpo river from Tibet enters India as the Siang river
which later joins the Lohit to form the Brahmaputra in Assam.

The defence PRO, Col C Konwer, told TOI, “At the new location at Kepang la Indian Army and People’s Liberation Army (PLA) troops met on August 15, marking a historic day in the India-China relationship. The Indian Army delegation was led by Col Manish Joshi and the PLA delegation by Col Chen Sau Feng. The two sides had eight members each and both sides welcomed the opportunity for the opening of this new location and allowing for a better contact process to resolve any issues in times to come.”

“Gifts were exchanged. Both sides affirmed their resolve to enhance mutual understanding and cooperation for maintaining peace and tranquility along the Line of Actual Control,” the PRO added. It was in this sector that the Chinese PLA had brought in bulldozers to build a road last January, prompting a build-up of Indian military there.

Defence sources said efforts were on to put the past behind and engage in improving bilateral ties at the political level. “The Kapeng la meeting was to break the ice between the two armies.”
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Trikaal wrote:^well said. +1. We should be competing and at least trying to outpace china in every facet imaginable instead of resting on assumed laurels. The smartest people incorporate the best from others. There's a lot we can learn from the chinese.
Rest is fine except the highlighted part.

This is how USSR bankrupted itself i.e by trying to outpace US not even across the board but in selected sectors. This is how US won i.e. by pushing USSR into a race it couldn't win given the economic disparity. We shouldn't not fall into that trap.

Rather, we should try the Chinese model of the 1990 up to 2007, which is work on the critical areas and leave the rest to the markets and try co-opting countries/companies investing in India.

I my self have great admiration for the Chinese strategy to the extent that people had taken offense when I repeatedly quoted Deng's "bide your time" for Indian strategy, obviously tailored to the present situation. People look at the Chinese strategy of today and want India to emulate it forgetting the strategy from 1970's onwards that made it possible for the change of strategy in 2007-08.
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Has China started to emulate the "mouse" of Asia i.e. India?

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diploma ... sian-prime
China to take ‘humble’ tack to win over Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad
China will seek to stabilise ties with Malaysia, rolling out the red carpet for the Southeast Asian nation’s prime minister on Friday as Beijing tries to head off growing tensions with Washington.

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Amid the rising friction and suspicions, China might feel it needed to take a more “humble” approach to gain the support of smaller neighbouring nations such as Malaysia, Chinese analysts said.

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Beijing is keen to build “political trust” with the new government in Malaysia, a country key to Xi’s ambitious “Belt and Road Initiative” and stronger ties in Southeast Asia as it grapples with disputes in the contested South China Sea.

China has been more patient, compared with [its approach] maybe five or six years ago, and has been more willing to compromise,” said Shi Yinhong, an international affairs specialist at Renmin University. “There are clear signs of adjustment.”
Compromise and China? in the same sentence. :shock: :-?
Shi said one example of that change was China’s restrained reaction to Mahathir’s decision to review at least three major Beijing-led projects – the US$20 billion East Coast Rail Link and two pipeline projects worth a combined US$2 billion.
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https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diploma ... ts-pacific
Chinese bombers are training to strike US targets in the Pacific, Pentagon claims
Chinese bombers are likely training for strikes against US and allied targets in the Pacific, according to a new Pentagon report that also details how Beijing is transforming its ground forces to “fight and win.”

The annual report to Congress, released Thursday, highlights China’s growing military, economic and diplomatic clout and how Beijing is leveraging this to rapidly build its international footprint and establish regional dominance.

In the case of China’s air power, the report states that Chinese bombers are developing capabilities to hit targets as far from China as possible.

“Over the last three years, the PLA (People’s Liberation Army) has rapidly expanded its overwater bomber operating areas, gaining experience in critical maritime regions and likely training for strikes against US and allied targets,” the document states, noting how China is pushing its operations out into the Pacific.

In August 2017, six Chinese H-6K bombers flew through the Miyako Strait in the southwest of the Japanese islands, and then for the first time turned north to fly east of Okinawa, where 47,000 US troops are based.

The PLA may demonstrate the “capability to strike US and allied forces and military bases in the western Pacific Ocean, including Guam,” the report says.
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https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diploma ... ng-invades
US will be ‘good ally’ to Philippines if China invades, defence official promises
The United States will be “a good ally” to the Philippines in responding to territorial conflicts in the South China Sea, a US defence official said Thursday.

Randall Schriver, assistant secretary of defence for Asian and Pacific security affairs, gave the assurance as tensions rise over China’s aggressive stance towards its claims to most of the strategic waterway.

Speaking to reporters at the US embassy in Manila, Schriver was asked if the United States, which is bound to the Philippines by a mutual defence treaty, would help the country if China invaded.

“We’ll be a good ally … there should be no misunderstanding or lack of clarity on the spirit and the nature of our commitment,” he said. “We’ll help the Philippines respond accordingly,” he added, declining to give further details.
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Pentagon report cites Doklam standoff to warn about China's coercive tactics - Rajat Pandit, ToI
The US has sounded yet another warning about China's expansionist designs and coercive tactics to smother opposition from rival claimants on territorial issues, pointedly referring to the Doklam troop face-off among other such incidents, even as the Chinese defence minister is set to visit India next week.

The Pentagon, in its latest report presented to the US Congress, said China does not want to jeopardise regional stability, on which its economic development hinges, by provoking full-fledged armed conflicts with its neighbours.

But backed by its growing economic, diplomatic and military clout, China is increasingly willing to employ "coercive measures" to advance its interests. China's use of such tactics, which fall short of armed conflicts, to pursue its strategic objectives are evident in its expanding territorial and maritime sovereignty claims in South and East China Seas as well as the 73-day troop standoff with India at Doklam near the Sikkim-Bhutan-Tibet trijunction last year, said the Pentagon.


The 130-page report on China's expansive military modernisation, which ranges from long-range precision-strike missiles, nuclear bombers and submarines to expanding information, cyber, space, counter-space and expeditionary warfare capabilities, comes ahead of the inaugural "two-plus-two" dialogue between India and the US.

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Defence minister Nirmala Sitharaman and foreign minister Sushma Swaraj are slated to hold joint talks with their American counterparts, Jim Mattis and Mike Pompeo, in New Delhi on September 6.

The US, of course, wants India firmly in its corner, whether it is by forging a quadrilateral along with Japan and Australia to counter an aggressive China in the Indo-Pacific region, or by weaning India away from buying Russian weapons.

India, however, continues to chart its course of strategic neutrality.
Even as it strengthens military ties with Washington, New Delhi has also firmly declared its intention to ink the Rs 39,000 crore deal with Moscow for five S-400 Triumf air defence missile systems later this year.

Similarly, despite being wary of China's assertive behaviour along the Line of Actual Control and its growing naval deployments in the Indian Ocean Region (IOR), India is also set to roll out the red carpet for Chinese defence minister General Wei Fenghe's visit here [New Delhi] from August 21 to 24.

China's military modernisation is primarily aimed at preventing any US intervention in the Taiwan Strait and protecting its energy supplies coming through the IOR, but India certainly needs to keep its guard up.

The Pentagon report says the Chinese air force has been "re-assigned" a nuclear mission. "The deployment and integration of nuclear-capable bombers would for the first time provide China with a nuclear triad of delivery systems dispersed across land, sea and air," it said.

After establishing its first naval base at Djibouti in the Horn of Africa in August 2017, China is also keen on additional logistics facilities in the IOR. "PLA Navy seeks to be able to operate across the greater Indo-Pacific region in high-intensity actions over a period of several months," the report said.

"Over the last three years, the PLA has rapidly expanded its overwater bomber operating areas, gaining experience in critical maritime regions and likely training for strikes against US and allied targets," it added.
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https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diploma ... ify-taiwan
Chinese military steps up strike strength against US targets and Taiwan, says Pentagon
In its annual report to the US Congress on China’s military developments, the Pentagon said the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) had undergone a sweeping overhaul, expanding the capacity of its bombers to “strike US and allied forces and military bases in the western Pacific Ocean, including [the US island territory of] Guam”.

The report also said the overhaul had improved the PLA’s ability to mount air and naval attacks on Taiwan, aiming to deter the island from pursuing independence and eroding Taiwan’s historical advantages in the Taiwan Strait.
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Good ally? Is that all US can promise Phillipines? What next? Kadii ninda of invasion in UN. And in return they expect Phillipines to stand up to China? For a bunch of corals? Good luck with that.
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Empty hotels, idle boats: What happens when a Pacific island upsets China - Reuters
Empty hotel rooms, idle tour boats and shuttered travel agencies reveal widening fissures in the tiny Pacific nation of Palau, which is caught in an escalating diplomatic tug-of-war between China and Taiwan.

Late last year, China effectively banned tour groups to the idyllic tropical archipelago, branding it an illegal destination due to its lack of diplomatic status.

As China extends its influence across the Pacific, Palau is one of Taipei’s 18 remaining allies worldwide and is under pressure to switch allegiances, officials and business people there say.

“There is an ongoing discussion about China weaponising tourism,” said Jeffrey Barabe, owner of Palau Central Hotel and Palau Carolines Resort in Koror. “Some believe that the dollars were allowed to flow in and now they are pulling it back to try and get Palau to establish ties diplomatically.”


In the commercial centre of Koror, the Chinese pullback is obvious. Hotel blocks and restaurants stand empty, travel agencies are boarded and boats which take tourists to Palau’s green, mushroom shaped Rock Islands are docked at the piers.

Prior to the ban, Chinese tourists accounted for about half the visitors to Palau. Of the 122,000 visitors in 2017, 55,000 were from China and 9,000 from Taiwan, official data showed.

Chinese investors had also gone on a buying frenzy, building hotels, opening businesses and securing large swathes of prime coastal real estate.

The decline since the ban was announced has been so sharp, charter airline Palau Pacific Airways announced in July it would terminate flights to China, four hours away, from the end of this month.

The Chinese government was “putting an effort to slow or stop tourists going to Palau”, said the Taiwanese-controlled airline, which has experienced a 50 percent fall in bookings since the China restrictions began.


China has previously used its tourism clout as a diplomatic tool, last year halting tours to South Korea after Seoul installed a controversial U.S. missile defence system.

Asked if designating Palau an illegal destination was a way of putting pressure on it to move away from Taiwan, China’s Foreign Ministry said relations with other countries had to happen under the framework of the “one China” principle.

“The one China principle is the pre-condition and political foundation for China to maintain and develop friendly cooperative relations with all countries around the world,” it said in a statement to Reuters, without specifically addressing the Palau issue.

The “one China” principle is a core government policy that states Taiwan is an inseparable part of China.

Taiwan’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs says China has lured four countries to switch diplomatic recognition from Taipei to Beijing in the past two years by offering generous aid packages and investment.

“While Taiwan faces serious diplomatic challenges, the government will not bow down to pressure from Beijing,” the ministry said on its website. “Taiwan will work with friendly nations to uphold regional peace and stability and ensure our rightful place in the international community.”

SHIFT IN FOCUS

Palau President Tommy Remengesau Jr. said there had been no official communication from Beijing on the tourism restrictions.

“It is not a secret that China would like us and the diplomatic friends of Taiwan to switch to them, but for Palau it is not our choosing to decide the one China policy,” he told Reuters in an interview in Palau’s second biggest city, Meyuns.

Remengesau, whose second and final term as president ends in January 2021, said Palau welcomed investment and tourism from China but the current administration’s principles and democratic ideals aligned more closely with Taiwan.

Palau was adapting to the China pullback by focusing on higher spending visitors rather than mass tourism, which had taken a toll on the environment, said Remengesau
, dressed in a lemon coloured shirt and white shell necklace.

One of Palau’s key tourist attractions, the saltwater Jellyfish Lake, was shut in 2017 after large numbers of swimmers were blamed for contributing to plummeting jellyfish numbers.

“The reality is that numbers did not mean big revenues for Palau. It actually made us more determined to seek the policy of quality versus quantity,” said Remengesau, who in 2015 declared most of Palau’s territorial waters a marine sanctuary the size of California.

CEMENTING INFLUENCE


Former Palau government officials say Beijing is trying to cement its influence in the region ahead of the expiry of the Compact Funding agreements between the United States, the Federated States of Micronesia, the Marshall Islands and Palau in 2023 and 2024.

The United States provides around $200 million a year on average to the Compact states and is responsible for the defence of the three countries, which each hold a seat at the United Nations.

Last December, the U.S. belatedly approved $124 million in assistance for Palau through till 2024, but has not announced any plans to extend the Compact agreements.


“The United States and China are not zero-sum competitors,” a U.S. State Department spokesperson told Reuters. “However, we have concerns about the sustainability of debt loads for countries highly indebted to China, as well as the environmental, social, or labour conditions that often come along with Chinese-financed projects.”

A June Security report from the U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Commission said Beijing’s increasing economic engagement in the Pacific was driven by its diplomatic and strategic priorities, including reducing Taiwan’s international presence, gaining access to natural resources and developing a blue water navy.

Former Micronesian government officials said Beijing also wants to extend its Belt and Road Initiative to Palau, and could provide an important source of investment once the Compact agreement expires.

“China is making overtures,” said former Palau President Johnson Toribiong. “We should be bringing in investors and that is a big factor in our Palau-Chinese relationship.”

Toribiong, who served until 2013, told Reuters Palau should not isolate itself.

“I like Taiwan. But even Taiwanese want China now. The businessmen, they also want China. They don’t care about political consequence. Think about the economics,” Toribiong said.

Palau receives $10 million annually from Taiwan, as well as education and medical scholarships.

Remengesau said Palau has not had any official talks with China for funding after the Compact expires but the government was discussing the issue internally.

CHINESE MONEY

China has quickly become one of the dominant economic players in the Pacific, spending billions of dollars in trade, investment, aid and tourism across Micronesia and the broader region.

China’s total goods trade with the Pacific Island Forum member countries reached $8.2 billion in 2017 versus $1.6 billion for the United States, according to the U.S. security report. Chinese concessional loans to Pacific islands have also risen sharply.

In contrast, Washington’s efforts to strengthen its position in Palau have been largely superficial
, according to locals who cite examples of bigger U.S. flags on their official vehicles and increased public signage.

Chinese activity has slowed significantly, however.

Barabe, the resort owner, said Chinese investors had secured 99-year leases for around 60 hotel projects prior to 2017, but construction has been largely put on hold.

At a lush forest site leased by China’s Hanergy group, a rusting metal gate blocks the entrance with no sign of construction. Hanergy did not respond to requests for comment regarding the development.

At a nearby hilltop site overlooking the ocean and leased by another Chinese developer, the shell of a dilapidated mansion stands scrawled with graffiti.

Jackson M. Henry, a real estate appraiser in Koror who helps Chinese companies lease land from local clans, said he was trying to set up channels to aid Chinese investment into Palau ahead of the next election in 2020. Pro business candidate Surangel Whipps Jr. was an early favourite to win the vote.

Henry, whose previous roles included Palau’s ambassador to Taiwan and Chairman of Palau Visitors Authority, said Palau wanted to be friends with both Taiwan and China.

“They (Chinese clients) are looking towards the next administration to improve the relationship with mainland China.”
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Prasad wrote:
SSridhar wrote:Govt seeks China role in northeast connectivity plan - Saibal Dasgupta, ToI
Somebody please tell me there is some chankian plan behind this.
As I have been saying for some time, any multilateral "BMIC" type corridor pushed by us is to connect India with India. An overland route to NE passing through BD, and sea access via Chittagong to the NE is in our interest, and the best and most stable way for this to happen is if this becomes a multi-player effort. That way it has a higher chance of surviving whatever political dispensation happens in BD.
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Sovereignty and sensitivity: on India-Bhutan relations - Suhasini Haidar, The Hindu

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In the larger scheme of things, highway markers — the reflective stickers on railings that guide traffic on Bhutan’s steep mountain roads — should not be a big issue. But when the Border Roads Organisation, which helps build Bhutanese roads under Project Dantak, decided in July to make those markers in shades of the Indian tricolour, it raised red flags among the Bhutanese on social media. Citizens were worried that this was an attempt by India to impose its flag on their countryside. This wasn’t a first. In April last year, the Department of Roads had to remove a board which read “Dantak welcomes you to Bhutan” at the Paro international airport. And on the Thimphu-Phuentsholing arterial highway, another board that credited the “Government of India” had to be painted over. Eventually, in the recent case, which was covered by the national weekly The Bhutanese, the Minister for Public Works stepped in, and the stickers were changed to blue and white.

The incident was a blip in India-Bhutan relations, but it is a clear indicator of heightened sensitivities in the Himalayan kingdom as it heads to its third general election. The National Assembly of Bhutan was dissolved and an interim government was appointed this month ahead of the election, which will be completed by October-end, marking 10 years of democracy in Bhutan.

Sovereignty and self-sufficiency

The People’s Democratic Party, led by imcumbent Prime Minister Tshering Tobgay, enters the elections with a visible edge, even if it may not be able to better its landslide victory in 2013, when it won 32 of the 47 seats. At his party’s first rally on August 4, Mr. Tobgay touted the 8% GDP growth in favour of his party, which has been fuelled by a construction and tourist boom in Bhutan. He can also take credit for stabilising the rupee-ngultrum crisis that he had inherited, as well as for economic reforms including lifting the import ban on cars. However, Mr. Tobgay has been unable to curb the national debt, owed mostly to India for hydropower loans, as he had promised to do in his last campaign.

Attacking Mr. Tobgay over a perceived “pro-India” stance will be part of the Opposition’s messaging. At its first rally, on July 29, the Druk Phuensum Tshogpa (DPT) party president, Pema Gyamtsho, said that “sovereignty, security and self-sufficiency” were the DPT’s top priorities. Crucially, this election comes after the 73-day India-China stand-off in 2017 in the Bhutan-claimed area of Doklam. Even though public commentary on the tensions has been frowned upon, Mr. Gyamtsho’s statement advocates a Bhutanese foreign policy that is less dependent on India. Another party in the fray, the Bhutan Kuen-Nyam Party, which has drawn large crowds at its meetings and derives some backing from a respected religious figure in eastern Bhutan, has a similarly worded campaign manifesto title: “For a self-reliant Bhutan: our concern, our responsibility”. Clearly, though Mr. Tobgay has called the raising of “sovereignty” issues by the Opposition as scaremongering, the concerns over India’s or any other country’s presence in Bhutan’s domestic and foreign policy are not being dismissed.

Given this, India must step lightly and thoughtfully around the upcoming election. The Manmohan Singh-led United Progressive Alliance government’s decision to cut cooking gas subsidy just before the 2013 elections in Bhutan has often been shown as proof of Indian interference, especially by the DPT party that lost that election. Since then, the Narendra Modi government’s actions, indicating a preference for one party (for example, Sheikh Hasina’s Awami League in Bangladesh) or antipathy for another (such as for Mahinda Rajapaksa’s Sri Lanka Freedom Party), have been noted closely in Bhutan. The government would be best advised to keep high-profile visits at an arms length from the election process, especially given that there will be several such visits after the National Assembly is chosen. Mr. Modi is expected to visit Thimphu once a new government is in place, and Bhutan’s King Jigme Khesar Namgyel Wangchuck is expected for a state visit this year too.

Revisiting policies and issues

The ensuing months may also be a useful interlude to revise India’s Bhutan policy and address several issues that have come up in the past few years — for example, the hydropower projects where delays in constructing and commissioning in Bhutan by Indian companies have led to the country’s burgeoning national debt. Although the government agreed to raise tariffs for the original hydropower plant in Chukha (by about 30 paisa per unit) in February this year, other tariffs will need to be renegotiated too. In addition, India’s power-surplus status and the advent of other renewable energies like wind and solar power will make it more difficult for Bhutan to ensure that its hydropower sector becomes profitable. And unless India finds ways to help, it will be accused of the same sort of “debt-trapping” that China is accused of today. India also needs to focus on policing cross-border trade better. The goods and services tax still hurts Bhutanese exporters, and demonetisation has left lasting scars on the banking system.

The China question


The biggest issue between India and Bhutan will remain how to deal with China. The Doklam crisis has brought home many realities for the Bhutanese establishment. The first is that Doklam, which has long been discussed as part of a possible “package solution” to the Bhutan-China border dispute, could become a point of India-China conflagration, with Bhutan becoming a hapless spectator in the middle — again. Experts point out that China’s actions since last June, to build a permanent military presence above the stand-off point, mean that Bhutan has a much reduced advantage in any forthcoming negotiations on the issue. “We will continue to discuss Doklam de jure, but the situation has changed drastically de facto,” said one Bhutanese expert. After Mr. Modi’s Wuhan outreach and several meetings with Chinese President Xi Jinping, Bhutan too has decided that there is little point in avoiding engagement with China. China’s Vice Foreign Minister Kong Xuanyou’s July visit to Thimphu was an outcome of this stance.

Interestingly, these issues are reminiscent of the situation in September 1958 when Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru undertook the arduous three-week journey by yak across the Chumbi Valley to meet Bhutan’s second king, Jigme Wangchuck. The trip took place amidst rising tensions with China, even as it gave special clearance for the delegation to cross into Doklam. As former Foreign Secretary Jagat S. Mehta wrote in his book, Negotiating for India: Resolving Problems Through Diplomacy: “The running anxiety during the 1960s for Bhutan was to steer its external relations with China by giving neither provocation nor the impression of getting into a bear hug of dependence with India. Both could jeopardise [Bhutan’s] autonomy.”
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Satellite Shows Sprawling 'Re-education Camps' For Chinese Muslims In Xinjiang Region

More proof has emerged confirming that China has erected expansive 're-education centers' for up to a million or more ethnic Uighurs in what a recent United Nations statement said resembles a “massive internment camp that is shrouded in secrecy”.

The minority Turkic speaking ethno-religious group concentrated in the western Chinese province of Xinjiang has found itself under increased persecution and oversight by Chinese authorities of late as their mostly Sunni Islamic identity and separatist politics have resulted in historic tensions with the Communist government.

A U.N. panel examining human rights inside China wrapped up last week and included a Chinese delegation of about 50 officials which formally denied that prisons have been set up for the Uighur population.

Satellite images reviewed by The Wall Street Journal and a specialist in photo analysis show that camps have been growing. Construction work has been carried out on some within the past two weeks, including at one near the western city of Kashgar that has doubled in size since Journal reporters visited in November.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08- ... ang-region
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X-posted from the Joint Exercise thread

India, Japan to expand defence ties, to hold first joint Army exercise this year - Rajat Pandit, ToI
India and Japan have decided to further expand their defence ties, with more bilateral combat exercises, military exchanges and top-level visits as well as collaboration in maritime security and defence production, with an eye firmly on an aggressive and expansionist China.

Towards this end, India and Japan will hold their first-ever joint Army exercise in the domain of counter-terrorism later this year, while cranking up the level of ongoing naval exercises and interactions, including those in the areas of anti-submarine warfare and mine counter-measures.

This was decided at the annual defence ministerial dialogue, with the delegations being led Nirmala Sitharaman and her Japanese counterpart Itsunori Onodera, in New Delhi on Monday.
While the Indian defence minister will visit Japan next year, the Japan Maritime Self-Defence Force (JMSDF) chief of staff will come here this November. The IAF chief, in turn, will visit Japan in December to discuss ways to strengthen cooperation between the two air forces.

The India-Japan meeting came a day before Chinese defence minister General Wei Fenghe begins his visit here from August 21 to 24.

With China continuing to strong-arm its neighbours on territorial and maritime sovereignty claims in South and East China Seas, India and Japan discussed the current security situation in the Indo-Pacific region, which also included developments in the Korean Peninsula.

“The two ministers stressed the need to ensure peace and stability in the Indian and Pacific Oceans as part of the larger Indo-Pacific region. They also reaffirmed that they have shared interests in expanding cooperation in the maritime security domain, welcoming the fact that the JMSDF and the Indian Navy were working towards the signing of the 'Implementing Arrangement for Deeper Cooperation’ between them
,” said an official.

India and Japan also decided to enhance cooperative research in defence equipment and technology, noting that they had already inked “a project arrangement” on unmanned ground vehicles and robotics.

Japan, of course, remains keen to conclude the long-pending negotiations to sell a dozen of its massive US-2i amphibious aircraft to India. But India is yet to take a final call on the feasibility of the proposed procurement project, which would cost around Rs 10,000 crore.
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Great News, guys.

''We can't afford, we can't repay': Malaysia scraps China-backed projects - AP
Multibillion-dollar China-financed projects in Malaysia have been canceled because they aren't needed and will saddle the country with an unsustainable amount of debt, Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohammad told reporters on the final day of a visit to Beijing on Tuesday.

Mahathir told Malaysian reporters that both Chinese President Xi Jinping and Premier Li Keqiang understood the reasons behind the cancellations and "accepted them." China had earlier defended the investments as bringing tangible benefits to both sides.

The projects, comprising a $20 billion East Coast Rail Link and two energy pipelines worth $2.3 billion, had already been suspended pending renegotiation.

"It's all about pouring in too much money which we cannot afford, we cannot repay and also because we don't need these projects for Malaysia at this moment," Mahathir said.


While the projects could be restarted in the future if considered necessary, Malaysia's current focus is on reducing the national debt, Mahathir said.

"With that debt, if we are not careful we can become bankrupt," he said, blaming the "stupidity" of the administration of his predecessor, Najib Razak {It was not 'stupidity', he was bribed} , whom he ousted in elections earlier this year and now faces charges of massive corruption.

Malaysia will still have to pay "substantial" penalties to extract itself from the projects and also needs to "find out where money that has been paid for the projects have gone to," Mahathir said.

Days before heading to Beijing, Mahathir was already saying Malaysia didn't need the projects, part of Xi's Belt and Road initiative to build ports, railways and other trade-related infrastructure across Asia, often built by Chinese contractors and financed by loans from Chinese state banks.

Belt and Road projects in Thailand, Sri Lanka and other countries have run into complaints that they are wasteful, too costly, give too little work to local companies or might facilitate embezzlement and other graft.
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Harmony in Xinjiang is based on three principles

From Liu Xiaoming, Ambassador of China to the UK

"The Chinese people often say: “One does not know how vast and beautiful China is until one visits Xinjiang.” Xinjiang represents the vastness of China because it is home to all of China’s 56 ethnic groups. The Uyghur, Han, Kazakh and Hui living in Xinjiang each has a population of over 1m, with the Uyghurs accounting for about 48 per cent and the Hans accounting for about 37 per cent of the entire population of Xinjiang. Xinjiang highlights the beauty of China with its ethnic harmony. People of all ethnic backgrounds respect and love each other, and work together for a better life. This has enabled rapid economic progress in Xinjiang in recent years. The growth rate of its GDP ranked the fourth among all Chinese provinces in 2014.

China is able to achieve ethnic harmony, economic growth and social progress in Xinjiang thanks to three basic principles. The first is equality of all ethnic groups. It is China’s consistent position to oppose ethnic discrimination of all forms against any group, and to prohibit all moves that undermine unity and incite division. Recent initiatives, such as “United as One Family” aimed to eradicate poverty and achieve common prosperity by focusing on the most needy, are welcomed by all ethnic groups in Xinjiang.

The second principle is freedom of religious belief. In Xinjiang where the majority of the people from ten ethnic groups follow Islam, there are 24,400 mosques, ie more mosques per person than in many other parts of the world. Normal religious activities are protected by law.

The third principle is taking firm actions against religious extremism and terrorism, from which Xinjiang has suffered deeply. Facts have shown that religious extremism is the breeding ground for terrorism because it incites hatred towards “believers of other faiths or pagans”. The education and training measures taken by the local government of Xinjiang has not only effectively prevented the infiltration of religious extremism and helped those lost in extremist ideas to find their way back but also provided them with employment training in order to build a better life.

The UK also faces the issues of infiltration and spread of religious extremism. Hence the British government issued its counter-terrorism strategy last June to underline the importance of early intervention in the cases of people under the influence of extremist views. This shows that terrorism is the common enemy of all mankind and the infiltration of religious extremism is a common challenge to the whole world. Every country needs to tackle this challenge effectively. It is time to stop blaming China for taking lawful and effective preventive measures.

Liu Xiaoming
Ambassador of China to the UK"
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FT Series : China’s debt threat

China responded to the global financial crisis with a huge surge in debt-fuelled investment. How bad has its debt problem become? Is there a risk of a financial crisis in China or of a sustained decline in growth, as a result of poorly-allocated capital?

Mixing analysis from Martin Wolf and in-depth reporting, our writers will seek to answer these vital questions

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A year after Doklam, India & China to discuss border CBMs, hotline, combat exercise - Rajat Pandit, ToI
India and China are all set to discuss further steps to strengthen bilateral confidence-building measures (CBMs) along the Line of Actual Control (LAC) as well as the long-pending hotline between their top commanders and resumption of their annual bilateral “Hand-in-Hand” combat exercise, a year after they all got derailed due to the Doklam troop confrontation between the two nations.

“Maintenance of peace and tranquility in the border areas is indicative of the sensitivity and maturity with which India and China handle their differences, not allowing them to become disputes,” said PM Narendra Modi, after visiting Chinese defence minister General Wei Fenghe + called on him on Tuesday.

Terming India-China relations as “a factor of stability in the world”, Modi appreciated the “increased momentum” of high-level contacts between two countries in all arenas, including defence and military exchanges.

Gen Wei, who is heading a 24-member team, will hold a “restricted meeting” and delegation-level talks with his counterpart Nirmala Sitharaman on Thursday. “The hotline between the two central military headquarters, akin to the one between the Indian and Pakistani DGMOs, the annual Army exercise and more effective implementation of CBMs on the ground to prevent troop face-offs along the LAC will all be on the agenda,” said an official.

Both countries have billed the talks as an important follow-up to the informal summit between Modi and Chinese President Xi Jinping at Wuhan in April, which led to “strategic guidance” to their militaries to manage and defuse troop confrontations during patrolling in accordance with existing mechanisms.

There has already been a reduction in the heightened border tensions along the 4,057-km LAC, which was witnessed during and after the 73-day Doklam standoff near the Sikkim-Bhutan-Tibet tri-junction, as was earlier reported by TOI.

The Chinese delegation, which began a four-day visit to India on Tuesday, includes Central Military Commission (CMC) vice chief of joint staff Air Marshal Dingqiu Chang, Western Theatre Command vice-commander Lt-General Guiqing Rong, and four Major-Generals, Changming Hu (chief of the CMC’s Office of International Military Cooperation), Haiyang Li (Southern Xijiang Military District commander), Jun Li (director of CMC’s Secretary Bureau) and Dewang Kuang (Tibet Military Command vice-chief of staff), among others.

Though the tempers have cooled down since Doklam, which saw the two armies move additional infantry battalions, tanks, artillery and missile units forward, the rival troops still continue to aggressively patrol to lay claim to disputed areas along the unresolved LAC, which stretches from Ladakh to Arunachal Pradesh.
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Colonization of Pakistan going apace . . .

As part of CPEC, 'Chinese only’ colony coming up in Pakistan - Dipanjan Roy Chaudhury, Economic Times
China is building a city for 5,00,000 Chinese nationals at a cost of $150 million in Gwadar as part of China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC). This will be the first such Chinese city in South Asia.

Half-a-million Chinese citizens, who will be housed in this proposed city by 2022, will be workforce for the financial district that Beijing is planning to set up in the Pakistani port city of Gwadar. Only Chinese citizens will live in this gated zone, which basically means that Pakistan will be used as a colony of China.

ET has learnt that the China-Pak Investment Corporation bought the 3.6-million square foot International Port City and will build a $150-million gated community for the anticipated 5,00,000 Chinese professionals who will be located by 2022 and work in its proposed new financial district in Gwadar.

China has such complexes or subcity for its nationals who are part of the workforce for projects in Africa and Central Asia. There are allegations that Chinese have also moved to acquire territory in eastern Russia and northern part of Myanmar, and such exclusive zones for Chinese citizens are also giving rise to considerable local resentment.


Beijing has invested in Pakistan’s pipelines, railways, highways, power plants, industrial areas and mobile networks to advance the geographical mid-way link for BRI.

In return, Chinese inland manufacturing cities have secured better links to shipping lanes and newly made free trade zones through railways, port renovation and blockchain technology.

Of the 39 proposed CPEC projects, 19 are either already completed or underway, with China spending over $18.5 billion since 2015.
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China offers to play ‘constructive role’ to ease India-Pakistan tensions - Atul Aneja, The Hindu
China on Wednesday offered to play a “constructive role” to ease tensions between India and Pakistan following the change of guard in Islamabad.

“We welcome the positive remarks made by the Indian and Pakistani leaders on improving their bilateral relations,” Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson Lu Kang said during his regular media briefing.


Mr. Lu was referring to Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s reported remarks seeking “meaningful and constructive engagement” with Pakistan, in a letter to Pakistan’s newly elected Prime Minister, Imran Khan. In tweets in English and Urdu, Mr. Khan, in turn, has proposed that, “To move forward, Pakistan and India must dialogue and resolve their conflicts, including Kashmir.”

The spokesperson specifically cited China’s concerns regarding “regional” security, in its offer to play a role in the India-Pakistan equation.

“Both Pakistan and India are important countries in South Asia. The improvement and development of their relations are quite important to the regional peace and stability and prosperity,” Mr. Lu said.

He hoped that New Delhi and Islamabad “can jointly stay committed to the regional peace and development”. He said, “China is willing to play a constructive role in this aspect.”

Exact nature of Beijing’s role uncertain

The spokesman, however, in response to supplementary questions, declined to characterise Beijing’s proposal as an offer for “mediation” between India and Pakistan.

“I just now said we are glad to see the positive remarks by India and Pakistan on improving their bilateral relations and all the efforts that are conducive to the improvement of their relations and peace and stability in the region. We welcome that and we will [play a] constructive role in this aspect.”

Mr. Lu declined to be drawn into the exact nature of Beijing’s role, asserting that he could not “give a pre-judgment” on this topic.

China has, in the past, pointed to bilateral talks between India and Pakistan as the basis of resolving the Kashmir issue. Mr. Lu also did not appear to change the basic template of bilateralism. “As a common neighbour of Pakistan and India, China firmly supports two sides to enhance dialogue and increase mutual trust and properly handle and solve their differences.”

China has been visibly emphatic in its advocacy for the resolution of India-Pak differences since the June summit of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO), where New Delhi and Islamabad were welcomed as full members of the grouping.

In an interview during the course of the summit with the state-owned China Global Television Network (CGTN), foreign minister and State councilor Wang Yi had stressed that India and Pakistan must not “see each other as opponents and much less enemies”. He pointed out that the SCO could provide a “better platform” to resolve the bitter feud between New Delhi and Islamabad of over seven decades.

“We know that there are unresolved historical conflicts existing between Pakistan and India. But I think after their joining the SCO, maybe we can provide a better platform and opportunities for the building of relations between them,” Mr. Wang said.
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Dated circa 2009 CLAWS article on modernization of PLA

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