Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Trikaal » 26 Oct 2018 01:41

mappunni wrote:
Saar,
Don't think Cheen has the stomach to see bodybags. Especially with one child norm, no sane parent would like to lose their only child. Cheen has been successfully using economy as a weapon just like they did against Japan or South Korea. When it is going to be real confrontation, Han's will be running for cover. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

You are talking about a country famous for its 'human wave' war tactic. Enough poor people in cheen who value the food and security of an army job over the life of their only child. Besides, one child policy is over and in a decade or two, the new generation will be here with 2 children.

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Japan & China: Thawing of Relationship?

Postby SSridhar » 26 Oct 2018 13:45

China, Japan to partner in building Asia infrastructure - Atul Aneja, The Hindu
Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe has arrived in China on a reset visit that is expected to trigger significant collaboration between Tokyo and Beijing in developing infrastructure in Asia.

Soon after his arrival, Mr. Abe was accorded a reception, hosted by his Chinese counterpart Li Keqiang, at the Great Hall of the People. The function was held to commemorate the 40th anniversary of the China-Japan treaty of friendship.

“Japan and China are playing an indispensable role in the economic development of not just Asia but the world,” Mr. Abe said during his speech at the function.

Mr. Abe will be accorded a ceremonial welcome on Friday morning and will hold talks with Chinese President Xi Jinping later in the day. “This is a breakthrough visit, important not just for the China-Japan relations, but whose significance would be felt in the region and the world,” Huang Jing, Dean of the International and Regional Studies Center at the Beijing Language and Culture University, told The Hindu .

During Mr. Abe’s talks with Chinese President Xi Jinping and Prime Minister Li, the leaders are expected {and already The Hindu gives an affirmative headline?} to seek areas of convergence between China’s Belt and Road Initiative and Japan’s concept of a free and open Indo-Pacific. Analysts say that they are expected to discuss joint development of infrastructure in Asia and Africa during talks.

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Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Peregrine » 26 Oct 2018 14:46

China agrees to increase imports from India: Suresh Prabhu – Reuters

NEW DELHI: Commerce and industry minister Suresh Prabhu said on Friday that China agrees to increase imports from India.

"Global disruptions offer a chance to increase Indian exports," Prabhu said at an event organised by the Confederation of Indian Industries (CII).

Prabhu said Chinese authorities will hold a meeting in November specifically with Indian exporters to address their concerns relating to market access and trade regulations.

India's trade deficit with China is its widest with any country, with large amounts of electronics and other items flowing across the border with its northern neighbour.

The government said on Thursday it is set to boost exports of rice and rapeseed to China to try to narrow this gap.

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Japan & China: Thawing of Relationship?

Postby SSridhar » 26 Oct 2018 15:04

Japan should be very, very wary of Chinese sweet talk which it would interpret differently when the 'time' comes!

Already, China is extracting oil & gas from the Japanese side of the median line in the East China Sea. In December 2007, Japan agreed to Chinese proposals for joint exploration around a median line that separates Japan & China (a 'median line' because the maritime boundary is still under dispute with Chinese claims on islets including Senkaku further complicated by Taiwan's claim as well on these). They even identified two joint development zones. In May, 2008, the Chinese President Hu Jintao and Japanese Prime Minister Yasuo Fukuda agreed on a joint gas development proposal. The deal was that Japanese companies would invest in Chinese oil exploration & production companies allowing them to completely exploit the field (even siphoning off the Japanese side), but the two would share profits. This field reportedly holds nearly 17.5 trillion cubic feet of natural gas and 20 million barrels of oil.

But, this idea made little progress only to be engulfed by the huge confrontation in c. 2010 over Chinese fishing trawlers and patrol boats in these areas. China's had a massive stand-off with the Japanese coast guard in the East China Sea following the detention of a Chinese fishing vessel which rammed two Japanese Coast Guard vessels deliberately near the disputed Senkaku/Daiyou islands in September, 2010. Immediately, China stopped rare-earths exports to Japanese electronics industry and also arrested four Japanese employees of the Fujita Corp. based in China. In a sense this c. 2010 incident was a turning point in Japan progressively diluting its pacifist Constitution since then. Then, continuing the tit-for-tat early 2011, China lodged protests with the Japanese government about Japanese fishing trawlers in the waters of Diaoyu (which Japan calls as Senkaku and is in its possession). The devastating earthquake & tsunami stopped any further 'progress' on this sensitive issue. The agreement therefore floundered. Later that year, Japan accused China of violating the agreement when CNOOC admitted that it was continuing to extract oil & gas from the disputed area even though no formal agreement had been reached.

Since that time, Japan has been routinely protesting the Chinese swindling of the energy resources from disputed East China Sea. China, for its part, turns an arrogant deaf ear and continues to build structures there reminiscent of its similar actions in the Indo-China Sea. China also continues to claim, as is its wont, that it is operating well within what are 'indisputably' its territories.

Except lately, with an assertive Abe at the helm, Japan has invariably acquiesced to coercive Chinese actions.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby chola » 26 Oct 2018 17:05

^^^^Japan (and Korea and Taiwan) built Cheen into the industrial powerhouse it is today.

The chinky types will always feel some attachment to Cheen because she is their Rome and Greece.

I looked into chini entertainment and leisure investments there as part of a work project (chini box office is on track to overtake North America’s.)

One of the first thing you’ll notice is how tightly integrated East Asians are culturally. The chini movie and music industries are full of Japanese and Korean people and concepts in China just as chini stars and entertainers are in Korea and Japan.

The chini travel market is full of Japanese, Koreans and Taiwanese in Cheen and chinis in Japan, Korea and Taiwan.

Chini colleges are full of Koreans and Japanese learning mandarin and classical chini script. Because much of their ancient history is written in kanji “(chinese characters.)” Something like 70% of Japanese and Korean are made up of chinese loan words.

Unlike the pakis and beedees, Japanese (and Koreans) are not sundered from their chini cultural roots by an intolerant phoren religion.

They will again and again help Cheen, out of both mercantile advantages and cultural affinity. Trump is right to go after and force a new trade agreement first with Korea and now with Japan.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby SSridhar » 26 Oct 2018 19:03

Abe’s visit won’t impact ties with Japan, says New Delhi - The Hindu
The ongoing visit of Prime Minister Shinzo Abe to China, just ahead of Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s visit to Japan on Sunday, will have no effect on India-Japan ties, said Foreign Secretary Vijay Gokhale.

“India and Japan have a shared vision not only of our bilateral ties but in the regional and global perspective, including on the Indo-Pacific... Not only will there be no impact of [Mr. Abe’s China] visit, but India welcomes the improvement in ties between China and Japan, because an Indo-Pacific that is inclusive and brings every country on board is something Prime Minister Modi has spoken off.”


Sign of thaw

In a sign of a thaw, Mr. Abe is making the first visit by a Japanese leader to China in 11 years. He will be in Beijing until Saturday and return to Japan in time to welcome Mr. Modi on Sunday.

The two leaders are expected to dine together at Mr. Abe’s holiday home in Yamanashi, take a walk at a hotel with a view of Japan’s Mount Fuji, visit an automated factory, and then travel to Tokyo together by train.

During formal talks on Monday in Tokyo, Mr. Modi and Mr. Abe will discuss progress on a range of projects, collaboration on projects in third countries along the “Asia-Africa” growth corridor and cooperation on the “connectivity, economic and geostrategic” aspects of the Indo-Pacific region, the Foreign Secretary said.

India and Japan are already working on an LNG terminal in Sri Lanka, and similar projects will be explored in other parts of India’s neighbourhood during the talks.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby A_Gupta » 26 Oct 2018 19:47

Academic Paper
https://scholarcommons.usf.edu/cgi/view ... ontext=mca
Military Cyber Affairs, The Journal of the Military CyberAffairs Association, Volume 3, Issue 1, Article 7
China’s Maxim – Leave No Access Point Unexploited: The Hidden Story of China Telecom’s BGP Hijacking
Chris C. Demchak U.S. Naval War College
Yuval Shavitt Tel Aviv University

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Singha » 26 Oct 2018 20:00

Good paper thanks for posting

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Isn't he a friend of SuSwamy, then how his return to power can be a worry for India?

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby SSridhar » 27 Oct 2018 12:03

China, Japan pivot to new markets - Atul Aneja, The Hindu
Faced with the threat of a trade war with the U.S., China and Japan have decided to work together to develop new overseas markets, by focussing on collaboration instead of competing with each other.

“Turning to cooperation from competition, the relationship between the two nations is entering a new stage,” Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe said at a joint press conference with his Chinese counterpart Li Keqiang
on Friday.

Prime Minister Li endorsed how ties between the two countries had pivoted from full-blown rivalry to growing partnership, especially over the last two years.

Mr. Li spotlighted that “we (China and Japan) are cooperation partners to each other and not a threat, and we support each other for peaceful development”.

In his brief remarks, the Japanese Prime Minister said joint forays in third countries would now be one of the new templates of Tokyo-Beijing ties.

“We have set up a new mechanism of cooperation between China and Japan in third party markets. Over 1,000 business representatives from the two nations gathering and signing multiple cooperation documents is one good example,” he said.

Analysts say the Japanese Prime Minister’s remarks showcase his “pragmatism” notwithstanding his strong nationalistic instincts. “Despite being a proud Japanese, I think Mr. Abe is also a very pragmatic politician,” Huang Jing, dean of International and Regional Studies Center at the Beijing Language and Culture University, told The Hindu .

New model

Japan’s Kyodo news agency reported that by bolstering investment in other countries, Asia’s two biggest economies will aim to form a new model of economic cooperation between them.

The meeting between the two leaders was followed by the signing of a slew of agreements, which covered energy cooperation, military confidence building measures in the East China Sea, infrastructure development and joint development of hi-end technology.

Focussing on cutting-edge know-how, an agreement was signed to establish a discussion platform on hi-end technology and intellectual property. {Now, China wants to steal from Japan}
The Chinese side hopes that such a forum would help make up possible shortages of U.S. components, in case the Beijing-Washington trade and technology war escalates.

The two sides also signed an agreement on joint development of gas fields in the East China Sea — an initiative that was stalled in 2008, when tensions over islands, called Diaoyu by China and Senkaku by Japan, spiralled. A decision has also been taken to launch joint search and rescue missions in these waters.

Analysts say China seeks Japanese companies to participate in its Belt and Road projects, especially in the financial sphere, to counter allegations that Beijing is deliberately pursuing “debt trap” diplomacy as a tool for exercising political control in developing countries. By entering into joint ventures, Japanese firms hope they can revive their flagging fortunes in new opportunity areas.

The two countries also signed a bilateral currency swap dealt of $26.7 billion — around 10 times as larger than a previous agreement that has expired.

Mr. Abe said Japan and China agreed to work together to open a hotline as soon as possible. That would help avert accidental clashes at sea and in the air.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby SSridhar » 27 Oct 2018 19:36

Indo-Pacific to dominate Wuhan-style summit between Modi and Abe - Indrani Bagchi, ToI
Inspired by the Wuhan summit, Prime Minister Narendra Modi and his Japanese counterpart, Shinzo Abe will hold one of their own on Sunday, closeted in Abe’s Lake House in Yamanashi prefecture for almost an entire day.

Modi’s visit, his last before the general elections, will see the two leaders focusing on some of the biggest geopolitical issues of the moment. Sunday’s conversation is expected to be the most substantive.

On top of their list is the Indo-Pacific.
This is a geo-political construct that has India and Japan as its biggest votaries and with the greatest convergence. For both countries the Indo-Pacific stretches from the eastern coast of Africa to the Pacific. But it is a policy that needs to be constantly fine-tuned.

China is deeply opposed to it as is Russia.

Both India and Japan have put Asean as the fulcrum of the Indo-Pacific. But it means both have to work much harder to convince the countries in the region that the Indo-Pacific is not an exclusive club set up with the US and Australia to dominate the region, which has been the core of Chinese diplomacy here.

Therefore, Modi and Abe are likely to announce that India and Japan will work both in third countries and with them to fulfil Indo-Pacific goals of being inclusive and helpful.

India and Japan will announce infrastructure projects in three countries in India’s neighbourhood — Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and Myanmar.


In Bangladesh, a set of roads and bridges being built separately by India and Japan will be synergised to become joint projects. In Sri Lanka an LNG terminal and port development in the north will also be linked by the two countries. And in Myanmar, transmission lines and housing projects in the troubled Rakhine province will be badged as an Indo-Japan venture. Venturing further, the two countries will be collaborating on a cancer hospital in Kenya.

Greater clarity and a roadmap will therefore dominate discussions between Modi and Abe this weekend.

The Modi-Abe summit follows hot on the heels of the first visit by a Japanese prime minister to China in about seven years. The China-Japan detente, like the China-India thaw, is seen as a direct consequence of the disruption caused by US’ China policy. Since the fundamentals of Chinese policy in the region has not actually changed, the warmed atmosphere among Asian powers may be temporary. The two leaders are likely to exchange notes on China as well as on the DPRK issue and the terror threat faced by India.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby yensoy » 27 Oct 2018 21:35

Peregrine wrote:China agrees to increase imports from India: Suresh Prabhu – Reuters

NEW DELHI: Commerce and industry minister Suresh Prabhu said on Friday that China agrees to increase imports from India.
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The government said on Thursday it is set to boost exports of rice and rapeseed to China to try to narrow this gap.

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Pathetic! We import every known manufactured product starting with hairclips & clay Ganpatis all the way to tunnel boring machines, and we are thrilled at being offered the opportunity to export commodity agricultural products?

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby chola » 28 Oct 2018 00:05

yensoy wrote:
Peregrine wrote:China agrees to increase imports from India: Suresh Prabhu – Reuters

NEW DELHI: Commerce and industry minister Suresh Prabhu said on Friday that China agrees to increase imports from India.
...
The government said on Thursday it is set to boost exports of rice and rapeseed to China to try to narrow this gap.

Cheers Image


Pathetic! We import every known manufactured product starting with hairclips & clay Ganpatis all the way to tunnel boring machines, and we are thrilled at being offered the opportunity to export commodity agricultural products?


Even America and OZ jumped at the chance to export commodity agricultural products to Cheen.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Neshant » 28 Oct 2018 03:50

Not a word from muslim countries..

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Inside China's internment camps: Tear gas, Tasers and textbooks.

Read more at:
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/wor ... 342546.cms

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby SSridhar » 28 Oct 2018 05:43

X-post from Sri Lanka thread.

Supratik wrote:It is now clearly a China backed coup.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/ ... ter-sacked

So, what happened to the Wuhan spirit? What happened to the '2+1' formula? What happened to Panch Sheel?

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Trikaal » 28 Oct 2018 11:47

yensoy wrote:Pathetic! We import every known manufactured product starting with hairclips & clay Ganpatis all the way to tunnel boring machines, and we are thrilled at being offered the opportunity to export commodity agricultural products?

You have to start somewhere. We can't be choosy at the moment. Focus should be to export whatever we can while substituting high value imports like the tunnel boring machines u mentioned. Hairclips don't matter.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby chetak » 28 Oct 2018 16:51

SSridhar wrote:X-post from Sri Lanka thread.

Supratik wrote:It is now clearly a China backed coup.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/ ... ter-sacked

So, what happened to the Wuhan spirit? What happened to the '2+1' formula? What happened to Panch Sheel?


Sri Lankan Speaker recognises Ranil Wickremesinghe as PM, urges President Maithripala Sirisena to reconsider his sacking



Sri Lankan Speaker recognises Ranil Wickremesinghe as PM, urges President Maithripala Sirisena to reconsider his sacking

Oct 28, 2018

Colombo: Sri Lankan Parliament's Speaker Karu Jayasuriya Sunday recognised Ranil Wickremesinghe as the country's prime minister in a major relief to the embattled UNP leader, who was sacked as the premier by President Maithripala Sirisena.


In a letter to Sirisena, Jayasuriya questioned Sirisena's decision to suspend the House until 16 November, saying it will have "serious and undesirable" consequences on the country. He asked the president to restore Wickremesinghe's privileges as the leader of the government who has "obtained a mandate to secure democracy and good governance”.

The speaker said a prorogation of Parliament should be one in consultation with the speaker. "In this context continuing the prorogation of parliament until November 16 will have serious and undesirable consequences for our country and I kindly request you to reconsider the same.

"I consider it is my duty to draw your attention to the convention that a prorogation should be one in consultation with the speaker," Jayasuriya said.

The speaker also questioned Sirisena's decision to withdraw the security of Wickremesinghe. Jayasuriya reminded Sirisena of certain forcible takeovers of state institutions since former strongman Rajapaksa was named Wickremesinghe's successor by the president on Friday night.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby yensoy » 28 Oct 2018 23:29

chola wrote:
yensoy wrote:
Pathetic! We import every known manufactured product starting with hairclips & clay Ganpatis all the way to tunnel boring machines, and we are thrilled at being offered the opportunity to export commodity agricultural products?


Even America and OZ jumped at the chance to export commodity agricultural products to Cheen.


Keep in mind that that's not all they are exporting. They make a ton of money from the Chinese in services - education, health care and tourism, not to speak of finance and technology. We are still at the bottom of the pyramid where we make a few pennies at long term detriment to our ecology. That must change with huge government push.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby SSridhar » 29 Oct 2018 12:28

Elite China security team arriving - Atul Aneja, The Hindu
A delegation of a Chinese group that takes care of the security of the top seven members of the nation’s leadership will visit New Delhi in November, as security ties between India and China begin to expand.

The delegation, led by Chen Yuantao, Deputy Director-General of the VIP security wing of the Public Security Ministry
, will hold talks on November 23 and 24, an official source who did not wish to be named told The Hindu .

The wing is in charge of the security of seven members of the Standing Committee of the Politburo, headed by President Xi Jinping.

The delegation will hold talks with India’s elite Special Protection Group (SPG).

“Both sides are of the view that there could be much to learn from each other regarding VVIP security. This is an important exploratory visit,” the source said.


The Chinese team’s visit comes after Zhao Kezhi, Minister of Public Security, concluded a visit to India earlier this month.

“We have had top-level visits from the Chinese security establishment in the past, but during Mr. Zhao’s visit, there was greater intent to carry forward practical cooperation, especially with India’s police forces,” the source said.

Tackling cybercrime

The Indian side is especially keen on learning from Chinese experiences in tackling cybercrimes{Ahh. . .who better than the thief can teach the tricks of the trade?} , as part of a broader security interaction with China.

Mr. Zhao’s visit is part of a string of follow-up visits after the Wuhan informal summit between Prime Minister Narendra Modi and President Xi in April.

Towards the end of November, National Security Adviser Ajit Doval will be heading to China for Special Representative (SR) talks with State Councillor and Foreign Minister Wang Yi. It is likely that the NSA’s visit will precede the G-20 summit in Argentina, where Mr. Modi and Mr. Xi are expected to meet again.

The two leaders last met in June on the sidelines of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation summit in Qingdao. The boundary question will be the focus of the talks during Mr. Doval’s visit.

At Wuhan — the symbol of the revival of China-India ties that had touched a new low last year during the Doklam standoff — Foreign Secretary Vijay Gokhale had announced that the two SRs, steering the boundary talks, would meet “in due course”.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Singha » 29 Oct 2018 16:47

Guests

Uyghur Folk Song


I invited guests to my home,
Let them sit on soft blanket,
But now I can´t enter,
The house built by myself.

I respected the guests,
Become homeless myself,
No place left for me in the garden,
I stray in the desert.

I changed the desert to oasis,
Plenty guests come for the harvest,
They broke the branches of trees,
Took the fruits away.

I invited guests to my home,
Let them sit on soft blanket,
Now they hold on the important spot,
Become our boss

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby chola » 29 Oct 2018 16:47

yensoy wrote:
chola wrote:
Even America and OZ jumped at the chance to export commodity agricultural products to Cheen.


Keep in mind that that's not all they are exporting. They make a ton of money from the Chinese in services - education, health care and tourism, not to speak of finance and technology. We are still at the bottom of the pyramid where we make a few pennies at long term detriment to our ecology. That must change with huge government push.


Geo-strategically, exporting food is immensely important. You are being paid by others to run the most critically industry there is — the food supply.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby yensoy » 29 Oct 2018 18:53

chola wrote:
yensoy wrote:
Keep in mind that that's not all they are exporting. They make a ton of money from the Chinese in services - education, health care and tourism, not to speak of finance and technology. We are still at the bottom of the pyramid where we make a few pennies at long term detriment to our ecology. That must change with huge government push.


Geo-strategically, exporting food is immensely important. You are being paid by others to run the most critically industry there is — the food supply.


They can choose to import rice from about a dozen rice-surplus countries. Exporting a widely produced commodity such as rice gives you zero leverage.

Chinese have no real reason to import any foodstuff. All their imports are only for the aspirations of the middle class & higher - whether it is milk products, tropical & temperate fruits, olive oil, wine, non-native rice varieties, beef, baby formula...

If they go a little easy on pork, they don't even need to import soybeans the bulk of which is used as animal feed. If there is a crisis you can bet the PRC government will suddenly become the new best friend of vegetarianism :) It's amazing how elastic the demand of food is in reality, because of the fact that a small shift to a less-meat diet will lead to a big drop in the consumption of grains; and that is not hard to achieve in a totalitarian society.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby SSridhar » 30 Oct 2018 09:06

China acknowledges diplomatic contacts with Rajapaksa, Wickremesinghe - Atul Aneja, The Hindu
China on Monday said it did not intend to interfere in Sri Lanka’s internal affairs, but was “closely following” the situation there, and had contacted the leaders involved in the crisis.

China and Sri Lanka are close and friendly neighbours {Really?}. We are closely following in the changes in the situation in Sri Lanka,” Foreign Ministry spokesperson Lu Kang said.

He also acknowledged that the Chinese envoy in Colombo had met Mahinda Rajapaksa. “We have maintained communication with relevant political parties. The Chinese Ambassador... met (Mr.) Wickremesinghe and the new Prime Minister Rajapaksa...” Mr. Lu observed.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby kit » 30 Oct 2018 14:19

https://www.janes.com/article/84136/russia-establishes-most-powerful-air-division-in-central-military-district


The Russian Ministry of Defence (MoD) has announced the establishment of a new composite aviation division in the Central Military District (CMD), Nezavisimoye Voyennoye Obozreniye (Independent Military Review, NVO) reported on 23 October. NVO’s MoD sources claim it will be Russia’s ‘most powerful’ air division.

The 21st Composite Aviation Division will combine existing units into a larger formation with higher level command and control for missions in the ‘southern and southeastern operational-strategic directions’. NVO concludes the new division could reflect greater Russian concern with threats in Central Asia and China. To cover more distant targets, however, its aircraft would have to redeploy to airfields further east or west.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby SSridhar » 30 Oct 2018 20:23

China pledges RMB 150 million assistance to Nepal Army - PTI
China has pledged to provide assistance of RMB 150 million to the Nepalese Army over a period of five years for humanitarian and disaster relief equipment.

The Chinese assistance — equivalent to Nepalese Rs. 2.5 billion — was announced during Nepal Deputy Prime Minister and Defence Minister Ishwor Pokhrel’s visit to China.

Mr. Pokhrel returned to Kathmandu on Tuesday on conclusion of his week-long visit.

During the visit, Mr. Pokhrel and Chinese Defence Minister Wei Fenghe signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) to this effect. With the latest aid, China’s financial support to the Nepalese Army has increased by 50 per cent.

Mr. Pokhrel held separate meetings with Chinese counterpart Wei and Vice-Chairman of the Central Military Commission of China Gen Xu Qiliang.

Last year, China had extended RMB 100 million for humanitarian and disaster relief equipment to Nepal’s Army.

China has hiked defence assistance to the Nepalese Army in recent years.

Mr. Pokhrel also attended the eighth Beijing Xiangshan Forum from October 24-26 that witnessed participation of more than 500 representatives from 67 countries and seven organisations from around the world.

The forum was themed ‘Building a new type of security partnership of equality, mutual trust and win-win cooperation’

Formerly known as the Xiangshan Forum, it was launched for the first time in 2006 with the objective of promoting cooperation among security officials, armed forces, international organisations and experts.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby pankajs » 31 Oct 2018 22:07

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diploma ... envoy-says
United States won’t allow force against Taiwan, new US envoy says as Beijing piles on pressure
The United States will not stand by to allow any non-peaceful attempt to unilaterally alter the status quo of Taiwan, a senior US diplomat has said in an apparent warning against Beijing’s threats to retake the self-ruled island, by force if necessary.

Washington would also do all it could to help Taiwan rejoin some international organisations such as Interpol, the official said, despite strong protests from Beijing, which considers Taiwan a wayward province.

In his debut press conference on the island on Wednesday, Brent Christensen, the new director of the US de facto embassy, the American Institute in Taiwan, signalled stronger US support for the island in the face of persistent pressure from Beijing against Taipei.

“I am here to tell you that US policy towards Taiwan has not changed,” Christensen said.

“Any effort to determine the future of Taiwan by other than peaceful means represents a threat to the peace and security of the Western Pacific area and is of grave concern to the United States.

“We are opposed to unilateral attempts to change the status quo.”

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby pandyan » 01 Nov 2018 07:01

Commies play funny tricks. they have cheap printing services for worldwide book publishers. China printed maps of india show entire j&k as a separate country. that's was that these cheap, slime balls commie government people do (people of china are good and mostly commoners like us)

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby SSridhar » 01 Nov 2018 10:06

India lodges strong protests with Pakistan, China over PoK bus service - PTI
India on Wednesday said it has lodged strong protests with China and Pakistan over a proposed bus service between the two countries through Pakistan-occupied Kashmir (PoK) under the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) project.

Ministry of external affairs (MEA) spokesperson Raveesh Kumar said on Wednesday the bus service will be a violation of India's sovereignty and territorial integrity.

According to reports, the new bus service will be launched between Lahore in Pakistan and Kashgar in China via Pakistan-occupied Kashmir on November 13.


Kumar said it has been India's consistent and well-known position that the "so-called China-Pakistan 'Boundary Agreement' of 1963 is illegal and invalid, and has never been recognised by the Government of India."

"Therefore, any such bus service through Pakistan Occupied Jammu & Kashmir will be a violation of India's sovereignty and territorial integrity,"
he added.

The MEA spokesperson was responding to media queries regarding the proposed bus service.

The $50-billion CPEC, launched in 2015, is a planned network of roads, railways and energy projects linking China's resource-rich Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region with Pakistan's strategic Gwadar Port on the Arabian Sea.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Prasad » 01 Nov 2018 20:28

Counter-Intelligence: U.S. charges Chinese spies and their recruited hackers in conspiracy to steal trade secrets
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/na ... story.html?

Chinese were trying to get into the tech for jet engines most likely targetting Safran for the LEAP engines given the timelines. If you remember, a chinese spy handler was lured to belgium and then arrested and extradited to the US. This is that case. Juicy bits on the op here - https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-relea ... 1/download

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby chetak » 02 Nov 2018 11:14

X posted from the OBOR thread

Credit could and should have been given to the present GoI for its perspicacious and principled stand.

One seriously doubts if any other govt except this particular one would have thought through the serious implications or even made a token resistance to the relentless OBOR/BRI/CPEC overtures, threats and demands, forget having the b@!!$ to reject outright these scam schemes and would have undoubtedly jumped in both feet first thus landing India in the schitt for decades to come.


Belt and roadblocks: India’s stance vindicated as China’s grandiose BRI plans run into resistance





Belt and roadblocks: India’s stance vindicated as China’s grandiose BRI plans run into resistance

Brahma Chellaney, October 29, 2018,

Sierra Leone has become the latest country to scrap a Belt and Road (BRI) project, cancelling a $318 million airport deal with China. After smooth sailing, BRI is now encountering strong headwinds, as partner nations worry about sovereignty eroding debt traps. In multiple countries, BRI projects are being scrapped or scaled back.

India was the first country to come out against the opaque BRI, Chinese President Xi Jinping’s marquee initiative. India boycotted Xi’s much-hyped BRI summit, held to drum up global support for his initiative. The May 2017 summit in Beijing attracted 29 heads of state or government, including Russia’s Vladimir Putin and Turkey’s Recep Tayyip Erdogan. But, while the US sent a joint secretary equivalent official to the summit, India sent no one.

Indeed, India publicly portrayed BRI as a non-transparent, neocolonial enterprise aimed at ensnaring smaller, cash-strapped states in a debt trap to help advance China’s geopolitical agenda. An official Indian statement before the BRI summit declared that “connectivity initiatives must be based on universally recognised international norms, good governance, the rule of law, openness, transparency and equality” and that they must also “follow principles of financial responsibility to avoid projects that would create unsustainable debt burden”.

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Illustration: Ajit Ninan

Some commentators in India were quick to claim that, through its summit boycott, India had isolated itself. They also predicted that India would come out a loser by turning its back on what they saw as a promising infrastructure building initiative that New Delhi too should have tapped.

But at the BRI summit itself, India received implicit support. The European Union openly echoed India’s concerns by saying BRI did not include commitments to transparency and social and environmental sustainability. The EU’s refusal to back Xi’s BRI-related trade statement marred the summit.

Before long, the US began depicting BRI as the dawn of a new colonial era. Then US secretary of state Rex Tillerson called China a “new imperialist power” whose practices are “reminiscent of European colonialism”.

The word “predatory” is now being used internationally about China’s practices. The International Monetary Fund has warned that Chinese loans are promoting unsustainable debt burdens. The price such burdens exact can extend to national sovereignty and self-respect. The handover of Hambantota port on a 99-year lease to China was seen in Sri Lanka as the equivalent of a heavily indebted farmer giving away his daughter to the cruel money lender.

Beijing has leveraged big credits to gain even military presence, as its first overseas naval base at Djibouti illustrates. Trapped in a debt crisis after borrowing billions of dollars, Djibouti was left with no choice but to lease land for the base to China for $20 million in annual rent. China is similarly seeking to employ its leverage over cash-strapped Pakistan to build a naval base next to Gwadar port.

In the Maldives, China has acquired several islets in that heavily indebted Indian Ocean archipelago. While the terms of the various lease agreements have not been disclosed, the acquisitions have come cheap; for example, China paid just $4 million for Feydhoo Finolhu, an island that previously served as a police training centre.

However, China’s grandiose BRI plans are running into broader resistance. Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad, with Chinese Premier Li Keqiang by his side in Beijing’s Great Hall of the People, recently criticised China’s use of infrastructure projects to spread its influence. By warning China against “a new version of colonialism”, Mahathir highlighted international concerns over Beijing’s use of geo-economic tools to achieve geopolitical objectives.

Sri Lanka’s experience has been a wake-up call for other countries with outsize debts to China. A number of BRI partner-states have begun trying to renegotiate their deals with Beijing. Some have decided to cancel or scale back projects. Mahathir, during his Beijing visit, announced the cancellation of Chinese projects worth nearly $23 billion. And China’s close ally, Pakistan, has downsized its main BRI railroad project by $2 billion.

BRI seeks to export China’s model of top-down, debt-driven development through government-to-government deals clinched without competitive bidding. But, increasingly, BRI is being seen internationally as an attempt to remake global commerce on China’s terms and project Chinese power far and wide.

Vulnerable countries are awakening to the risks of accepting loans that are too good to be true and then slipping into debt entrapment. China is even replicating some of the practices that were used against it during the European colonial period, such as the concept of a 99-year lease. BRI, by creating a mountain of debt, risks undermining China’s international standing, including engendering hidden hostility. A broader pushback against China’s mercantilist practices is already emerging.

Against this background, India’s brave, principled stand against BRI stands fully vindicated. India can pride itself as the intellectual leader that helped shine a spotlight on BRI’s financial and security risks and thereby moulded the international debate. The larger international pushback against China’s predatory practices is likely to intensify in the coming years, putting greater pressure on BRI.

DISCLAIMER : Views expressed above are the author's own.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby prasannasimha » 02 Nov 2018 18:46

Saw PUBG mobile is sponsored by tencent- could be a window for hacking

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Postby Trikaal » 02 Nov 2018 19:56

prasannasimha wrote:Saw PUBG mobile is sponsored by tencent- could be a window for hacking

Doesn't google tests apps to determine whether they are safe before allowing them onto Google Store? I am not sure if you can host an app on Playstore which steals your personal data in background.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby yensoy » 02 Nov 2018 20:19

Trikaal wrote:
prasannasimha wrote:Saw PUBG mobile is sponsored by tencent- could be a window for hacking

Doesn't google tests apps to determine whether they are safe before allowing them onto Google Store? I am not sure if you can host an app on Playstore which steals your personal data in background.


Steal? What steal? The person who installs such an app willingly gives permission for the app to access his/her contacts, camera, location and other info.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby ArjunPandit » 02 Nov 2018 22:17

China may offer $6bn loans to pakis. Classic case of evergreening of loans. The bill will come due some day, no matter how experienced China is china in this based on evergreening of loans of their SoEs
https://www.business-standard.com/artic ... 344_1.html

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby ArjunPandit » 02 Nov 2018 22:28

Trikaal wrote:
prasannasimha wrote:Saw PUBG mobile is sponsored by tencent- could be a window for hacking

Doesn't google tests apps to determine whether they are safe before allowing them onto Google Store? I am not sure if you can host an app on Playstore which steals your personal data in background.


Unless one uses symbian, apps ask for your access to your data, browsing history, camera, sms, basically everything. Needless to say the location history search and youtube history is also available. This is just the software part. There is a possibility of backdoors in h/w too.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby ArjunPandit » 02 Nov 2018 22:30

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diploma ... ence-china
We have seen this enough from Pakis. Master learning from slave

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby ArjunPandit » 02 Nov 2018 22:40

http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1111499.shtml
meanwhile in china.
Metropolitan spoke with Beijing's residents to find out if they favor little meats or beef jerky and what masculinity has to do with a country's national power.

South African national Kevin Richardson, whose arms look like they're getting regular workouts, said, "Some of the (Chinese) men just come across as more feminine than anything else," adding that ever since he came to China, he realized that some of the local men's skin is in better shape than the women's.

"I do think that if (China) wants to come across as powerful they should have more masculine men out there instead of just showcasing boys with nice skin and makeup," he said.

WION also reported that military finding hard to recruit. There was a chinese report to drink less pepsi and use hast-maithun less

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Trikaal » 03 Nov 2018 00:23

ArjunPandit wrote:Unless one uses symbian, apps ask for your access to your data, browsing history, camera, sms, basically everything. Needless to say the location history search and youtube history is also available. This is just the software part. There is a possibility of backdoors in h/w too.

All of that is meta-data, which every app collects. Besides, the risk as I understand, is about hacking into confidential data. Contacts, etc isn't that. No app is allowed permission to access data files or documents on your mobile, atleast not officially.


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