Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby mappunni » 07 Jan 2020 06:15

Prasad wrote:That Harris Falcon iii is a software defined radio. The Chinese are going all out to get their hands on every bit of tech from everywhere.


Steal steal steal is Chinese motto :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Heard from a Prof in a Texas Univ. There is an unofficial ban in admitting Chinese students in sensitive tech areas.

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Postby Philip » 07 Jan 2020 08:41

China has deployed Type 15 light tanks and 155-M vehicle mounted howitzers in Tibet.The tanks hhave a 105mm gun that can take care of light AVs.Operating MBTs like heavy T-72s in the plateau is much more difficult to transport,etc.
I've said over a year ago that we should acquire asap the Sprut SD 2S 25 light tanks which have a 125mm main gun ,outgunning the Type 15 and with some extra ERA tiles for better protection.The tanks are amphibious and could also be used by our amphib. forces.The same can be assembled and built in India in sufficient number for our needs. The fact that the Chinese are inducting these systems in Tibet is a clear indication of their malafide intentions.

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Postby rags » 10 Jan 2020 21:22

Some neutering appears to have happened in South China sea. Moderators, please remove if this turns out to be a duplicate post

Thanks

https://www.janes.com/article/93621/ind ... backs-down

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Postby VinodTK » 11 Jan 2020 21:49

Tsai’s Record Victory Moves Taiwan Further From Xi’s Grasp

(Bloomberg) -- Xi Jinping’s goal of bringing Taiwan under his control moved further out of his grasp as the island’s voters re-elected a president who has vowed to defend its sovereignty, raising questions about the success of China’s Taiwan strategy.

Taiwanese president Tsai Ing-wen won a landslide victory over China-friendly opposition challenger Han Kuo-yu to clinch a second term in elections Saturday. Her victory, an emphatic public mandate with a record number of votes, is the fourth time since 2000 that her Democratic Progressive Party -- which advocates for Taiwan’s formal independence -- has secured the presidency.

The DPP also held onto its majority in the legislature, albeit with a reduced margin.

Tsai has vowed that Taiwan will never be unified with China as long she is in power. Meanwhile Han, of the Kuomintang party, had struggled to find a consistent message on China. Taiwan’s complex relationship with China is the main political fissure in its society, though issues like wages, housing and air quality were also important to voters.

In a victory address in Taipei, Tsai said voters had “put democratic values into practice” and that the world should see Taiwan as a partner, not an issue. She urged Beijing to resume cross-strait dialogues and negotiations as equals, and said she hoped the two sides could build a “sustainable and healthy” approach for exchange.

“This election is about having democracy and freedom, and not having democracy and freedom,” she said.

Tsai was swept to victory by a resilient economy and stock market and protests against China’s grip in neighboring Hong Kong, which have confronted Taiwanese voters with the potential perils of closer ties with the mainland.

“I voted for Tsai Ing-wen because I don’t want to lose Taiwan’s freedom,” Rita Huang, a 34-year-old public servant, said after voting in Taipei.

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Beijing has stepped up its strategy of offering an array of threats and incentives in the hope of persuading Taiwanese to begin the process of unifying with its giant neighbor in the four years since Tsai first came to power, and voters in the world’s only Chinese-speaking democracy faced pressure to pick sides in a global battle for influence between the U.S. and China. But the island’s inhabitants have proven largely immune to China’s coercion.

“China has failed to shift public opinion in favor of eventual unification, and many of its coercive measures have been counterproductive, pushing the Taiwanese people away,” said Natasha Kassam, a research fellow at the Lowy Institute in Sydney who studies Taiwan and Chinese politics. “The more that China has attempted to impose a Chinese identity on Taiwan, the more that the people have identified as Taiwanese, rather than Chinese.

U.S. Secretary of State Michael Pompeo congratulated Tsai on her victory and said in a statement that Taiwan had demonstrated the strength of its democratic system, making it “a model for the Indo-Pacific region and a force for good in the world.”

Chinese president Xi has reaffirmed his desire to use the same “one country, two systems” framework by which Beijing governs Hong Kong to bring the democracy of 23 million people back under its control. Tsai rejects the prospect, and her victory Saturday likely means four more years of no talks between the two sides on one of the region’s main potential flash points, a disappointment for those who had cast their votes for Han.

China’s official state Xinhua news agency responded to Tsai’s win by reiterating its insistence on the “one country, two systems” model for Taiwan.

“I support closer and more peaceful ties with China and am against independence for Taiwan,” Betty Chang, a 60-year-old accountant, said at a Taipei polling station. “If we choose independence, China will attack us for sure.”
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Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Peregrine » 11 Jan 2020 23:57

China reports first death from pneumonia caused by new type of coronavirus

Health authorities in the central Chinese city of Wuhan are reporting the first death from a new type of coronavirus.

The Wuhan Municipal Health Commission reported on Saturday that seven other people were in critical condition.

It said a total of 41 were suffering from pneumonia caused by a “preliminarily determined new type of coronavirus” as of Friday, down from the earlier figure of 59.

It said those were in stable condition and at least two had been released from a hospital.

Another 739 people who were in close contact with the patients, including 419 medical workers, have been placed under medical observation but no related cases have been found.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Suraj » 12 Jan 2020 01:20

Ing-Wen's win is seen by the global left as a cause for celebration of their values. I'm afraid they're wrong. Her victory has the same emotional value to the Taiwanese as Modi's has to India. The motives were essentially similar - people went out of their way to travel to Taiwan from overseas just to vote because they felt their country and its future was being threatened. This kind of enthusiasm cannot be motivated by the left - their cause is and always is global, not local. Taiwan's issues were very much local, and the vote focused on someone the people felt could safeguard their way of life.

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Postby Peregrine » 15 Jan 2020 01:58

U.S. gave Britain new evidence of 'madness' of using Huawei in 5G network - report

LONDON (Reuters) - U.S. government officials presented the British government with new evidence on Monday about the risks of including Huawei equipment in future 5G mobile networks, branding it “madness”, the Guardian newspaper reported.

Officials from both countries and the telecoms industry met on Monday ahead of Britain’s decision, expected later this month, on whether to deploy technology from the Chinese company.

The United States is trying to persuade Britain not to use Huawei’s equipment over what Washington says are security risks.

Senior U.S. officials told a group of reporters that using Huawei technology for 5G in the UK would be ‘an act of madness’ shortly after presenting a dossier of new evidence to ministers,” the Guardian’s defence and security editor said on Twitter.

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Postby Peregrine » 16 Jan 2020 02:53

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China fears CAA could have repercussions in Xinjiang - Atul Aneja

Beijing apprehends that the law, if it alienates Muslims in India, could have repercussions in the vast strategically important border region, which has faced separatist violence.

The adoption of the Citizenship (Amendment) Act (CAA), which excludes citizenship for Muslim migrants who had illegally entered India from Pakistan, Afghanistan and Bangladesh before December 2014, is fuelling anxiety in China.

A Chinese official who did not wish to be named told The Hindu that Beijing apprehends that the law, if it alienates Muslims in India, could have repercussions in Xinjiang—a vast strategically important border region, which has faced separatist violence.

“We fear that if possible Muslim alienation triggered by India’s new Act spreads, it could channel into international terrorism and eventually bolter separatism in Xinjiang,” the official said.

Xinjiang is China’s strategic lifeline. The West-East gas pipeline network drawing gas from Central Asia along a land corridor helps fuel Beijing’s east coast industrial heartland—the workshop of the world, represented by Shanghai and Guangdong province.

China has also unveiled the Greater Bay Area plan, covering the economic integration of Guangdong with Hong Kong and Macao, requiring huge energy sources.

Apart from energy security, Xinjiang is also the “choke point” through which China is connected with Central Asia and Europe along a vast inter-continental transportation network under Beijing’s Belt and Road Initiative (BRI).

Besides, China views Xinjiang as central to the “one-China” policy, which also rejects efforts that encourage “separatism” in Taiwan, Tibet, Hong Kong and islands in the South China Sea. “Given Xinjiang’s extraordinary importance, China firmly rejects any moves to weaken the one-China principle on the grounds of human rights,” the official said.

China has blamed the East Turkestan Islamic Movement (ETIM)—a terror group mainly comprising jihadists of ethnic Uyghur descent, for seeking an independent “East Turkestan” in Xinjiang.

In response to the CAA, a section of the Chinese state media has asserted that the new law mirrors India’s evolving geostrategic posture, in its South Asian neighbourhood, the Indian Ocean and beyond, fuelled by what is called, the rise “Hindu nationalism”.

An article in the state-run tabloid Global Times noted that “broadly speaking” the CAA “reflects the conflict between liberalism and nationalism. In India, the world's largest democracy, Prime Minister Narendra Modi has embarked on a path of nationalism. He tries to achieve a unified national recognition via the idea of having one country, one nation, one religion and one language and eradicate diversification and fragmentation in India's society and culture”.

It added that the “rise of Hindu nationalism has broader implications for international politics…Hindu nationalism will not be satisfied to be only the dominant force within India. It will push the country to pursue higher international status - from permanent membership in the UN Security Council to dominance in the Indian Ocean and South Asia and eventually a major world power - to satisfy the need for victory and reputation”.

The daily further noted that the CAA will have a major “spillover effect” on the Hindu minorities in the region. “At the regional level, conflicts are likely to emerge between India and neighbouring countries, especially those having a Hindu population. India cannot move all Hindus to India and the issue of protection of foreign Hindus may arise.”

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby chola » 16 Jan 2020 09:07

Probably more important than the trade war is the tech war.

This might make or break Cheen as far as we are concerned. Because the US tech war could:

1) contain and drive Cheen into a permanent subservient position by limiting it to only less than cutting edge technology not embargoed by the US and allies or

2) create a technologically independent Cheen that no longer relies on the US -- basically a bet that Cheen with its much larger domestic market along with a few other nations afraid of the US/Western technological monopoly would be large enough to sustain a peer eco-system.

We can tilt the contest decisively to the US/Western side by rejecting chini equipment and technology and enforcing the number "1" scenario. A technologically less advanced PRC would allow us to overtake them much quicker.

But if Cheen powers through this war and creates scenario "2" then we'll probably never catch up. In order to create the second scenario, Cheen has to be innovative.

Historically, the previous US embargoes of satellite/launches and HPCs on Cheen hadn't stopped the chinis from being in leading positions in those areas so the odds are probably 50-50.

https://www.afr.com/technology/us-tech-backlash-forces-china-to-be-more-self-sufficient-20200116-p53rw8

US tech backlash forces China to be more self-sufficient

Beijing embracing open-source collaboration and wooing scientists from overseas

January 15, 2020 5:00 am by Yuan Yang in Beijing

The acrimony between China and the US over technology transfers has created plenty of losers during the past year. There are the US companies which have missed out on business as a result of sanctions, and the Chinese groups that have had to find alternative supplies. But there is one group that has emerged as a winner: the security hawks who say they saw it coming and who are now pushing Beijing to be more self-sufficient.

Since the start of 2019, Washington has used sanctions to cut Chinese companies out of US supply chains, denting the telecoms group Huawei, China’s supercomputer groups and eight of the country’s leading artificial intelligence surveillance companies.

For many policymakers in Beijing, the inevitable trend is towards more decoupling of the two countries’ tech supply chains. A truce in the trade war is unlikely to diminish the Trump administration’s drive to place controls on exports of advanced technologies.

The result has been a decisive shift in China’s approach to the industry. Beijing is accelerating its drive for technological “autonomy” to boost its control over its own supply chain in the face of political risks, such as further US embargoes.


To achieve technological autonomy, Beijing is pursuing strategies that often tread an uneasy balance between increasing its engagement with the outside world and shutting it out. For all the accusations China has faced about stealing other countries’ technology, Beijing is now embracing international open-source, or free to use, collaborations.

China is also tapping overseas markets for talent, investing more in countries other than the US.

This acceleration of decoupling will not only affect US groups that rely on China’s custom, it will also start to reconfigure the world’s tech supply chain, as Chinese companies turn to countries they view as safer allies. The two superpowers are already bullying countries they buy from, and sell to, to take sides.


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Postby SSridhar » 16 Jan 2020 12:26

Many not sold on Beijing's new stance on Belt and Road Initiative: Survey - Straits Times
China's recent pledge to make infrastructure projects in its Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) clean, green and financially sustainable has not convinced key influencers within the Asean region, according to the results of a survey released today by the ISEAS - Yusof Ishak Institute.

Distrust of the Asian power is growing despite widespread recognition that it has the biggest clout in the region.

According to The State Of South-east Asia: 2020, an online survey of 1,308 South-east Asian nationals in research, business, the public sector, civil society and media, 63.6 per cent of respondents have little or no confidence that Beijing's new approach to the BRI will give their respective countries a fairer deal.

Critics of the BRI, which aims to connect regional economies through a network of China-backed projects, allege that it is a debt trap that will make recipient countries beholden to a Beijing which is, at the same time, vigorously asserting its dominance against rival territorial claimants in the South China Sea.

The sense of distrust towards China was most palpable in Vietnam, the Philippines and Indonesia, noted authors Tang Siew Mun, Hoang Thi Ha, Anuthida Saelaow Qian, Glenn Ong and Pham Thi Phuong Thao from the think-tank's Asean Studies Centre.

Even in BRI recipient countries like Myanmar, Thailand, Cambodia, Malaysia and Laos, the majority of respondents remained sceptical.

In recent years, as the United States led by President Donald Trump backs away from multilateral institutions, Chinese President Xi Jinping has pledged to support and strengthen multilateral cooperation.

Yet, some 60 per cent of respondents had either "little confidence" or "no confidence" that China will "do the right thing" to contribute to global peace, security, prosperity and governance.

This level of distrust is an almost 10-percentage-point jump from last year, when the same question was posed to respondents.

Distrust heightened across all Asean member states except in Cambodia, one of China's closest allies in the 10-nation bloc.

Just over 52 per cent of respondents felt China was the most influential political and strategic power in South-east Asia, compared with 26.7 per cent for the US.

"While China can take gratification from the region's recognition of its growing political and strategic clout, it should do so with some grain of salt," noted the authors. "Among those who view China as having the most political-strategic influence in South-east Asia, 85.4 per cent registered their concern over this matter."

The authors added: "It bears reminding that recognising China's power is not the same as accepting the new reality. In fact, if not handled with due diligence, this may elicit counter-balancing forces to prevent China from becoming the region's hegemon."

Among respondents who hold a positive view of their countries' relations with Beijing, most see "China's growing economic dominance and political influence" in their respective country as the most important factor that could derail relations.

Their second-and third-biggest concerns were China's "strong-arm tactics in the South China Sea and the Mekong" and its use of "economic tools and tourism to punish their countries' foreign-policy choices".

As Asean member states hedge against uncertainty brought about by US-China rivalry, Japan and the European Union have stood out as the region's most preferred and strategic partners.

Some 61 per cent of respondents expressed confidence that Japan will "do the right thing" to provide global public goods.

The EU was ranked first by respondents for "maintaining the rules-based order and upholding international law".

Meanwhile, the survey found that Samsung was the overall telecommunications provider of choice to develop 5G networks in the region.

"Given its potential security ramifications, the award of the 5G contract can be seen as a vote of confidence and trust in the developer's country," the authors write.

Respondents were asked: "In which company/companies do you have the highest level of confidence to build your country's 5G Internet infrastructure network?"

Samsung, a South Korean conglomerate, emerged the top choice overall, with 38.5 per cent of votes.

Chinese companies such as Datang Telecom, Huawei and ZTE were the top choices in Laos, Cambodia and Malaysia.

In Singapore, the biggest group of respondents - 25.7 per cent - chose Samsung, followed by Ericsson of Sweden (22.5 per cent), and the Chinese providers (19.4 per cent).

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby nandakumar » 16 Jan 2020 12:37

SSridhar wrote:Many not sold on Beijing's new stance on Belt and Road Initiative: Survey - Straits Times
China's recent pledge to make infrastructure projects in its Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) clean, green and financially sustainable has not convinced key influencers within the Asean region, according to the results of a survey released today by the ISEAS - Yusof Ishak Institute.

Distrust of the Asian power is growing despite widespread recognition that it has the biggest clout in the region.

According to The State Of South-east Asia: 2020, an online survey of 1,308 South-east Asian nationals in research, business, the public sector, civil society and media, 63.6 per cent of respondents have little or no confidence that Beijing's new approach to the BRI will give their respective countries a fairer deal.

Critics of the BRI, which aims to connect regional economies through a network of China-backed projects, allege that it is a debt trap that will make recipient countries beholden to a Beijing which is, at the same time, vigorously asserting its dominance against rival territorial claimants in the South China Sea.

The sense of distrust towards China was most palpable in Vietnam, the Philippines and Indonesia, noted authors Tang Siew Mun, Hoang Thi Ha, Anuthida Saelaow Qian, Glenn Ong and Pham Thi Phuong Thao from the think-tank's Asean Studies Centre.

Even in BRI recipient countries like Myanmar, Thailand, Cambodia, Malaysia and Laos, the majority of respondents remained sceptical.

In recent years, as the United States led by President Donald Trump backs away from multilateral institutions, Chinese President Xi Jinping has pledged to support and strengthen multilateral cooperation.

Yet, some 60 per cent of respondents had either "little confidence" or "no confidence" that China will "do the right thing" to contribute to global peace, security, prosperity and governance.

This level of distrust is an almost 10-percentage-point jump from last year, when the same question was posed to respondents.

Distrust heightened across all Asean member states except in Cambodia, one of China's closest allies in the 10-nation bloc.

Just over 52 per cent of respondents felt China was the most influential political and strategic power in South-east Asia, compared with 26.7 per cent for the US.

"While China can take gratification from the region's recognition of its growing political and strategic clout, it should do so with some grain of salt," noted the authors. "Among those who view China as having the most political-strategic influence in South-east Asia, 85.4 per cent registered their concern over this matter."

The authors added: "It bears reminding that recognising China's power is not the same as accepting the new reality. In fact, if not handled with due diligence, this may elicit counter-balancing forces to prevent China from becoming the region's hegemon."

Among respondents who hold a positive view of their countries' relations with Beijing, most see "China's growing economic dominance and political influence" in their respective country as the most important factor that could derail relations.

Their second-and third-biggest concerns were China's "strong-arm tactics in the South China Sea and the Mekong" and its use of "economic tools and tourism to punish their countries' foreign-policy choices".

As Asean member states hedge against uncertainty brought about by US-China rivalry, Japan and the European Union have stood out as the region's most preferred and strategic partners.

Some 61 per cent of respondents expressed confidence that Japan will "do the right thing" to provide global public goods.

The EU was ranked first by respondents for "maintaining the rules-based order and upholding international law".

Meanwhile, the survey found that Samsung was the overall telecommunications provider of choice to develop 5G networks in the region.

"Given its potential security ramifications, the award of the 5G contract can be seen as a vote of confidence and trust in the developer's country," the authors write.

Respondents were asked: "In which company/companies do you have the highest level of confidence to build your country's 5G Internet infrastructure network?"

Samsung, a South Korean conglomerate, emerged the top choice overall, with 38.5 per cent of votes.

Chinese companies such as Datang Telecom, Huawei and ZTE were the top choices in Laos, Cambodia and Malaysia.

In Singapore, the biggest group of respondents - 25.7 per cent - chose Samsung, followed by Ericsson of Sweden (22.5 per cent), and the Chinese providers (19.4 per cent).

If China is so confident of the financial viability of these projects they should take a 49% equity stake with minimal loan component in the project. Let them put their money where their mouth is. The host country's stake can be contributed via locally sourced goods and labour and other services.

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Postby Kati » 16 Jan 2020 23:10

Indictment: Kansas researcher secretly worked for China

https://www.yahoo.com/news/indictment-k ... 29821.html

WICHITA, Kan. (AP) — A Kansas associate professor concealed work he was doing for China while employed at the University of Kansas and tried to recruit other researchers and students for the Chinese government, according to revised federal charges filed Wednesday.

An extensively detailed superseding indictment charges Feng “Franklin” Tao, 47, of Lawrence, Kansas, with two counts of wire fraud and one count of program fraud for failing to disclose on conflict-of-interest forms the work he was doing for China while employed as a full-time associate professor at the University of Kansas' Center for Environmental Beneficial Catalysis. Prosecutors said some of the Tao's research at the Kansas university was funded by the U.S. Department of Energy.

Tao's defense attorney did not immediately return an after-hours phone message and email seeking comment.

The 16-page indictment describes how China spurred its rapid economic growth by offering scholarships or funding to foreign students or visiting professors who were studying or working at U.S. universities. It also used “talent plans” designed to encourage the transfer of original ideas and intellectual property from U.S. universities to Chinese government institutions to enhance Chinese “scientific development, economic prosperity, and national security."

Such talent plans have existed since early 1990s, but the Chinese government re-emphasized them in 2007 as part of its strategy to enhance economic development, federal prosecutors said. The Communist Party of China reviews all talent plan applicants, and the government administers and funds the program using other agencies within the Chinese government.

As of 2016, China had recruited more than 56,000 talent program participants. The indictment said the Changjiang Professorship was one such program sponsored by the Chinese government and the Communist Party. It alleges Tao did not disclose to the University of Kansas his selection for the Changjiang Professorship or the salary for his appointment to Fuzhou University in Fuzhou, China.

The Changjiang contract also required Tao to recruit two to three doctor students and three to four master's students per year to work with him at Fuzhou University, according to the indictment.

Federal prosecutors also cited in the indictment email exchanges dealing with Tao's efforts to recruit students and researchers for work in China, and the indictment alleges Tao sponsored at least four researchers and students visiting the University of Kansas from China. At least one of his researchers joined Tao's research team at Fuzhou University, according to the indictment.

Federal prosecutors detailed in the indictment numerous trips Tao took in 2017 and 2018 to China. He also performed “some duties” at Nagoya University in Japan.

The unusually detailed superseding indictment came on the heels of a defense motion seeking to dismiss the original indictment against Tao after his attorneys claimed a visiting graduate student fabricated the allegations against him. The judge said during a hearing on that request that a new motion could make some issues raised by the defense moot.

Prior to his arrest in August 2019, Tao was prominently listed as a member of the Fuzhou University on its website, according to the indictment. Shortly after his arrest, all mention of him was deleted from the Fuzhou website. Prosecutors said Tao never requested permission from the University of Kansas to work at Fuzhou University or Nagoya University.

Tau, an associate professor of engineering at the University of Kansas, was born in China and moved to the United States in 2002. He has been employed since August 2014 at the Kansas university’s Center for Environmentally Beneficial Catalysis in Lawrence. The center conducts research on sustainable technology to conserve natural resources and energy.

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Postby chanakyaa » 18 Jan 2020 07:55

(FT) Chipmaker TSMC says ready for potential new US export controls
Washington could further restrict supplies to Chinese telecom gear maker Huawei...

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby hanumadu » 18 Jan 2020 12:03

From here.
https://everydaypower.com/sun-tzu-quotes/

For a country who have these and plenty more like these sayings on war, they blundered big time. They apparently don't read their Sun Tzu. Instead of the mao's little red book, politburo members should have been made to read Sun Tzu instead.

“Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.” – Sun Tzu


“Do not engage an enemy more powerful than you. And if it is unavoidable and you do have to engage, then make sure you engage it on your terms, not on your enemy’s terms.” – Sun Tzu


”The good fighters of old first put themselves beyond the possibility of defeat, and then waited for an opportunity of defeating the enemy.” – Sun Tzu


Donald Trump is really rubbing the chinese nose into the dirt.

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Postby Rony » 26 Jan 2020 03:39

Virus-hit Wuhan has two laboratories linked to Chinese bio-warfare program

The deadly animal virus epidemic spreading globally may have originated in a Wuhan laboratory linked to China’s covert biological weapons program, according to an Israeli biological warfare expert.

Radio Free Asia this week rebroadcast a local Wuhan television report from 2015 showing China’s most advanced virus research laboratory known the Wuhan Institute of Virology, Radio Free Asia reported.

The laboratory is the only declared site in China capable of working with deadly viruses.


Dany Shoham, a former Israeli military intelligence officer who has studied Chinese bio warfare, said the institute is linked to Beijing’s covert biological weapons program.

“Certain laboratories in the institute have probably been engaged, in terms of research and development, in Chinese [biological weapons], at least collaterally, yet not as a principal facility of the Chinese BW alignment,” Mr. Shoham told The Washington Times.

Work on biological weapons is conducted as part of a dual civilian-military research and is “definitely covert,” he said in an email.

Mr. Shoham holds a doctorate in medical microbiology. From 1970 to 1991 he was a senior analyst with Israeli military intelligence for biological and chemical warfare in the Middle East and worldwide, holding the rank of lieutenant colonel.

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Postby kit » 26 Jan 2020 04:52

Rony wrote:Virus-hit Wuhan has two laboratories linked to Chinese bio-warfare program

The deadly animal virus epidemic spreading globally may have originated in a Wuhan laboratory linked to China’s covert biological weapons program, according to an Israeli biological warfare expert.

Radio Free Asia this week rebroadcast a local Wuhan television report from 2015 showing China’s most advanced virus research laboratory known the Wuhan Institute of Virology, Radio Free Asia reported.

The laboratory is the only declared site in China capable of working with deadly viruses.


Dany Shoham, a former Israeli military intelligence officer who has studied Chinese bio warfare, said the institute is linked to Beijing’s covert biological weapons program.

“Certain laboratories in the institute have probably been engaged, in terms of research and development, in Chinese [biological weapons], at least collaterally, yet not as a principal facility of the Chinese BW alignment,” Mr. Shoham told The Washington Times.

Work on biological weapons is conducted as part of a dual civilian-military research and is “definitely covert,” he said in an email.

Mr. Shoham holds a doctorate in medical microbiology. From 1970 to 1991 he was a senior analyst with Israeli military intelligence for biological and chemical warfare in the Middle East and worldwide, holding the rank of lieutenant colonel.



No wonder they sequenced the genetic map of the virus so fast !!

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Postby VinodTK » 26 Jan 2020 04:54

Coronavirus Live Updates: China Suspends Tours Abroad as Xi Warns of ‘Grave Situation’
The authorities reported 15 new deaths in Wuhan, the center of a virus outbreak, including a medical professional in his 60s.

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China moves to restrict travel, including tours abroad.
Schools in Hong Kong and the mainland postpone classes
Fifteen more deaths are reported, including a medical specialist.
Why is there so much panic?
Xi Jinping, China’s leader, says the nation will ‘beat the epidemic.’
Beijing’s response highlights longstanding tensions between national and local officials.
U.S. orders the evacuation of American consulate employees.
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China coronavirus spread is accelerating, Xi Jinping warns

The longer it goes bigger the impact on Chines economy and global economy

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby vinod » 26 Jan 2020 05:38

This is getting out of hand.
First Xi comes out with a alarmist message. Chinese never ever do this.
Twitter is filled with scary messages. Not sure what to make of it yet...

Message about more tgat 100k infected
https://twitter.com/howroute/status/122 ... 67463?s=19

And this thread
https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1 ... 03905?s=19

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Kati » 26 Jan 2020 06:59

What I've heard from China, especially the financial markets, is that the coronavirus is going to be a disaster. It will easily shave off half of the Chinese GDP for 2020.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby kit » 26 Jan 2020 07:48

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Aditya_V » 26 Jan 2020 07:56

Kati wrote:What I've heard from China, especially the financial markets, is that the coronavirus is going to be a disaster. It will easily shave off half of the Chinese GDP for 2020.

I think this is sensationalism. I this virus can be quarantined and no of deaths will be restricted.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby kit » 26 Jan 2020 17:07

VinodTK wrote:Coronavirus Live Updates: China Suspends Tours Abroad as Xi Warns of ‘Grave Situation’
The authorities reported 15 new deaths in Wuhan, the center of a virus outbreak, including a medical professional in his 60s.
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China coronavirus spread is accelerating, Xi Jinping warns

The longer it goes bigger the impact on Chines economy and global economy


The chinese heartland and its main economic zones are in danger, and the economy is sure to take a hit. Disrupted supplies, access, the losses will pile up.

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Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Peregrine » 26 Jan 2020 17:24

A report from Xinjiang

Many Han Chinese don’t mind the gulag for their Uighur neighbours

Yet it will aggravate ethnic strife for years to come

URUMQI : The district of Erdaoqiao in Urumqi, the capital of the far western region of Xinjiang, looks very similar to many urban areas of China. Its streets are filled with luxury cars competing for space with frantic food-delivery scooters. Many buildings are new, built with steel, glass and cookie-cutter uniformity.

No visible evidence remains of the riots here in July 2009, the country’s bloodiest ethnic clashes in decades. They involved battles between Uighurs, the Turkic-speaking, predominantly Muslim group indigenous to Xinjiang, and ethnic-Han Chinese who make up more than 90% of China’s population. The spark was a protest by Uighurs against the killing of two Uighur factory-workers by a mob in southern China. Of more than 200 people who were killed on the first day of the violence in Erdaoqiao and other areas of Urumqi, many were Han. Later, Han crowds gathered in the streets, hungry for revenge. The city stewed for days in a miasma of anger and fear.

Urumqi today is calm, but its ethnic contours remain distinct. Erdaoqiao is still known as a Uighur area. Its Uighur-run shops sell steaming bowls of noodles and stewed lamb, circular flatbreads, colourful bolts of fabric and religious articles. In other parts of the city, the residents are mainly Han people, who make up three-quarters of Urumqi’s population and dominate its economy. The city’s tallest building is a 229-metre office tower that belongs to a state bank based 2,000km to the east, in Beijing—a city that seems a world away from Xinjiang’s Uighur culture.

Urumqi is a Han bastion, but in Xinjiang as a whole there are about 10m Uighurs and around 9m Han people. They are divided not only by culture but also by geography. Han people mainly live in the north where Urumqi is located. Uighurs are concentrated in the much poorer south, in ancient oasis towns such as Kashgar and Hotan. Between north and south is the vast Taklimakan desert (see map).

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To understand why officials in Xinjiang began building a gulag in 2016 in which they have incarcerated an estimated 1m people, mostly Uighurs, it is important to understand the nature of this ethnic divide. The riots in 2009 made Han people more suspicious of Uighurs. The government’s draconian reaction has made Uighurs more resentful. The prison camps, euphemistically known as vocational training centres, are evidence that this divide has become even more institutionalised. That suggests that the Uighurs’ suffering will last a very long time.

Uighurs are put in camps for such things as being overtly pious Muslims or too fond of their Uighur traditions. The authorities say this has helped curb terrorism. They say there were thousands of terrorist attacks in Xinjiang in the 15 years before the facilities were built, and none since. But the mass internment of Uighurs is certain to have increased their bitterness towards Xinjiang’s Han rulers.

Assessing the camps’ impact on public opinion in Xinjiang is difficult. Foreign journalists who visit the region are closely watched, often by several plainclothes agents who follow them by car and on foot. There are small “convenience police stations” at many intersections. In between are endless arrays of surveillance cameras, many capable of facial recognition. Access to most buildings and businesses—ranging from large hotels and shopping centres to bookshops and hole-in-the-wall restaurants—is controlled with x-ray scanners and metal detectors. When buying petrol, customers must submit to a vehicle search, facial scan and identity check.

It is clear that this blanket security is mainly aimed at monitoring Uighurs and deterring any attempt by them to protest or stage attacks. Travellers on the region’s highways are frequently stopped at checkpoints where armed officers with truncheons, helmets and body armour search their vehicles. Uighurs are sometimes subjected to further questioning and checks. Han motorists are often waved through.

The clampdown of recent years targets the Uighurs’ faith. Some mosques have been shut or bulldozed. At others, domes, crescents and other Islamic features have been removed to make them look more “sinified”. Officials have stepped up controls over places of worship, for example by barring the teaching of children. They have banned many forms of observance, such as women’s full-head coverings and big beards on men. Officials and students have been banned from observing the Muslim holy month of Ramadan.

Many Han people in Xinjiang say they are not bothered by the intrusive security. “We’re all used to it, and in fact we like it because we know it keeps us safe,” says a woman surnamed Chen, who seven years ago moved from China’s interior to Turpan, a city close to Urumqi, where she runs an electronics shop.

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Some Han people in Xinjiang have roots in the region going back much further than Ms Chen’s—to the 1950s, soon after the Communists seized power in Beijing. At that time Mao sent about 175,000 demobilised Han soldiers to settle in the then overwhelmingly Uighur area, build farms and help guard the region’s borders with Soviet-controlled Central Asia. They became members of what was named the Xinjiang Production and Construction Corps (the bingtuan, in Chinese). This sprawling organisation, part state-run firm and part paramilitary force, has since emerged to dominate Xinjiang’s agriculture, leaving little room for Uighurs to compete. It controls vast tracts of land, on which it produces a large share of China’s cotton and tomatoes, often using migrant Han workers brought in from other parts of China. It is also involved in construction, property dealing and the oil industry (other large, Han-dominated, state-owned firms control most of this). In recent years its share of Xinjiang’s gdp has risen (see chart).
The bingtuan resembles a state-within-a-state. Nine of Xinjiang’s 28 cities are directly under its control. They have bingtuan-run police forces, hospitals, television stations and newspapers. Their populations are mainly Han people who often have little interaction with Uighurs and do not know their language (most Uighurs in cities speak Mandarin). It amounts to an informal apartheid system.

Many of Xinjiang’s Han residents resent being seen, at least by some Uighurs, as interlopers. A bank worker in Turpan, who gives his surname as Zhao, says his grandfather came in 1958 from Hebei, a province surrounding Beijing, and endured harsh conditions to help develop the region and establish his family there. “We are Xinjiang people, my whole family, and this place is our place, too,” he says. Mr Zhao admits that he regards Uighurs as “backward”, “untrustworthy” and “violent”. Such views are commonly and frankly expressed by Han people in Xinjiang.

When Chen Quanguo, an ethnic Han who took over as Xinjiang’s Communist Party’s chief in 2016 (that post is, in effect, reserved for Han Chinese), he would have heard such opinions, too. The Han people who marched through the streets of Urumqi in 2009, armed with axes, crowbars and meat cleavers, were not only angry about the Uighurs’ violence. They were also furious at the government for failing to do enough to protect them. Among such people, Mr Chen may have enjoyed some support for his gulag-building project, although official documents leaked to the New York Times last year suggested that some local officials resented his clampdown. The documents revealed that thousands of officials in Xinjiang, both Uighur and Han, were punished for resisting, including the Han leader of one southern county who was jailed for trying to slow the detentions and shield Uighur officials.

Mr Chen’s critics are right. Far from reducing the mutual animosities between the groups, the harsh and dehumanising treatment of the Uighurs seems more likely to fuel even greater resentment of Han rule. If that results in more violent protests, Han people in turn will become more hostile towards the Uighurs. With his gulag, Mr Chen has ensured that ethnic conflict in Xinjiang will haunt China long into the future.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby VinodTK » 26 Jan 2020 20:42

Wuhan, the center of the deadly coronavirus outbreak, is a major business hub for several international corporations
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Wuhan, a city of 11 million people, is one of China's largest industrial hubs and home to its steel industry. The $9.4 billion Chinese automotive company Dongfeng Motor Corp, which is joint venture partners with Nissan and Honda, resides in this city.

Several suppliers and international business operations are based in Wuhan. For example, massive car factories for General Motors, Nissan, Honda, and other corporations are there. Wuhan is home to the business operations for international corporations like Renault SA, PSA Group's Peugeot, IBM, HSBC, Siemens, Walmart, Ericsson and more. The beverage company Anheuser-Busch InBev SA also brews beer in Wuhan.
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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Kati » 28 Jan 2020 06:15

The chinese stock markets' closure has been extended till Feb 3, 2020. The main reason is to delay the inevitable - tanking of the markets. However, China Index funds in other countries are already tanking. For example, in Singapore it is down by about 6%. .... Eventually when Shanghai market opens it can dip by 10% on the very first day. ...

We are watching the meltdown of the Chinese markets and China's GDP in slow motion.


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