Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby george » 25 Jun 2020 15:16

Apologies, Im so confused. I thought of not responding but have to get this out. Please understand that I am also an average nationalist and hence the frustration.

Avtar Singh wrote:^^^^^
all chinese will know who among them are CCP.

The most secure victory will come from getting china to the point where the chinese
themselves will clearout the CCP..


How are we or our Armed forces going to achieve this? 10K one child casualties? 20K?

Avtar Singh wrote:The fissures they, pakchin, try to exploit in India are also in abundance in their own countries
but I dont think India does much to exploit them. But I am sure the Anglos are getting busier
on this front.


Suffice to say, feels like shit that we have to wait for anglos to fight our wars.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby ricky_v » 25 Jun 2020 15:51

^But it is not our war solely, everyone is out to get everyone else, whether for something tangible or for the heck of it. My 2 paise, only the subcontinent is of interest to india civilizationally, the definition of what this subcontinent means may differ, and the only area where the country will actively try to influence others. Preventing others from entering this sphere of influence is the prime motive that India executes solely, in other areas the right nudge or alignment suffices, so India may be heavily entrenched in Pakistan because it is a claimant, a shity one, but a claimant, while vigorously defending against others, and aligning with differing agencies to affect net positive changes for all.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby pankajs » 25 Jun 2020 17:44

https://twitter.com/seriousfunnyguy/sta ... 0879725575
What a great step from Govt of India!!

100% Examination of all shipments coming from China

This is serious if true. Such a mandate can seriously cripple the flow of Chinese goods into the Indian market if implemented properly.

Force physical verification o fall imports by visual inspection. Withdraw staff. Create a MASSIVE backlog. Force importers to pay for wharehouse in the interim.

Slow the verification to a trickle making the import very expensive in term of time and cost (Wharehousing cost can really add up and turn a profit into a loss).

One of Non-tariff barrier.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Rsatchi » 25 Jun 2020 18:01

pankajs wrote:https://twitter.com/seriousfunnyguy/status/1275701170879725575
What a great step from Govt of India!!

100% Examination of all shipments coming from China

This is serious if true. Such a mandate can seriously cripple the flow of Chinese goods into the Indian market if implemented properly.

Force physical verification o fall imports by visual inspection. Withdraw staff. Create a MASSIVE backlog. Force importers to pay for wharehouse in the interim.

Slow the verification to a trickle making the import very expensive in term of time and cost (Wharehousing cost can really add up and turn a profit into a loss).

One of Non-tariff barrier.

Pankaji
A noob pooch.
Are there any reciprocal agreements that this act will break?
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 623789.cms
There is this as well. :shock:
What did the Congress/UPA sign
Furthermore are there any sticking points in the MOU of Cong and CCP.
And for that matter will the MOU stand the test of international law if there is dispute?? :roll:

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby chola » 25 Jun 2020 18:14

pankajs wrote:https://twitter.com/seriousfunnyguy/status/1275701170879725575
What a great step from Govt of India!!

100% Examination of all shipments coming from China

This is serious if true. Such a mandate can seriously cripple the flow of Chinese goods into the Indian market if implemented properly.

Force physical verification o fall imports by visual inspection. Withdraw staff. Create a MASSIVE backlog. Force importers to pay for wharehouse in the interim.

Slow the verification to a trickle making the import very expensive in term of time and cost (Wharehousing cost can really add up and turn a profit into a loss).

One of Non-tariff barrier.


Much more effective and fast acting than any tariff!

It will create instant pain for the importer and make him switch suppliers double quick.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby pankajs » 25 Jun 2020 18:21

^^ Asbolutely. IFFF there is Will NOT one container per day will be cleared and the beautiful things about it is that one can dial it up or down by adding and withdrawing inspectors in a period. No extra legal or executive order is needed. Just redeploy the available staff to "shape" the outcome that one desires.

If I were Modi I would have deployed this on taking office. If the Chinese behaved, everything would work fast. If they did not the flow would slow down to a trickle and the message would reach Beijing via our importers and their exporters! Such a fantastic channel for "strategic" communication.

Modi, like the rest of the PMs of India wanted to go sequentially. I would have deployed everything on day one and pressed the relevant levers depending on my mood for the day/month/year/event.

https://twitter.com/JDMayger/status/1275708114663362560
James Mayger @JDMayger

China’s banking system begins to crack at its grass roots as two bank runs take place within a week | South China Morning Post

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby pankajs » 25 Jun 2020 19:20

https://www.msn.com/en-xl/africa/kenya/ ... li=BBKxOg5
Contract for Kenya’s China-funded railway ruled ‘illegal’
When Chinese President Xi Jinping hosted African leaders at last week's China-Africa Summit, he singled out Kenya's Standard Gauge Railway, a multibillion-dollar Chinese-funded Belt and Road Initiative project, for helping to move cargo during the coronavirus pandemic.

<snip>

The Court of Appeal, which handles cases arising from the decisions of the High Court in Kenya, ruled that state-owned Kenya Railways had failed to comply with " and violated " the nation's laws "in the procurement of the SGR project".

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby darshan » 25 Jun 2020 19:24

chola wrote:Much more effective and fast acting than any tariff!

It will create instant pain for the importer and make him switch suppliers double quick.

I would also go step further and make it a treason for anyone involved in circumventing this by taking or offering bribes. There's nothing that WTO can complain about. Violate any laws that help enemy and that's treason.

Put local law enforcements to cross check everything for any violation for businesses dealing with China. Tons and tons of crap gets bought by Indians in Shenzhen. One can always find a simple tax violation. Make it absolutely clear to everyone in the ecosystem that anyone sleeping with businesses that do business with chinese would have to follow every single rule in business and personal lives. If some local gov't official gave NOC to operate by taking bribes, that official feels the pain too. Need to run business and live 100% law compliant lives for anyone associated with chinese. Nothing that WTO can complain about.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby pankajs » 25 Jun 2020 19:51

The Chinese have occupied Napalese border land at multiple places and it has now reached its parliament. AND a few weeks back Nepal/KP Oli was trying to fix India in cahoots with China!

https://twitter.com/FrontalAssault1/sta ... 1563586560
Official confirmation from Nepal about China occupation of Territory.
Source: @AshishG9661
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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby darshan » 25 Jun 2020 21:58

GoI should also put under microscope any chinese fake R&D centers being run by Chinese companies in India. Pretty much all would be there to poach strategic former employees associated with MIC. No chinese company would be doing any worthwhile research in India.
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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Suraj » 25 Jun 2020 22:10

Rsatchi wrote:Pankaji
A noob pooch.
Are there any reciprocal agreements that this act will break?
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 623789.cms
There is this as well. :shock:
What did the Congress/UPA sign
Furthermore are there any sticking points in the MOU of Cong and CCP.
And for that matter will the MOU stand the test of international law if there is dispute?? :roll:

Basic power play dynamics at big power level: Rules are things you make for others to follow. One does not worry about whether or not they follow some agreement when being punitive. All agreements fundamentally imply the parties have been behaving well. When they haven't, any 'agreement' is fair game.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby vinod » 25 Jun 2020 22:43

pankajs wrote:https://twitter.com/seriousfunnyguy/status/1275701170879725575
What a great step from Govt of India!!

100% Examination of all shipments coming from China

This is serious if true. Such a mandate can seriously cripple the flow of Chinese goods into the Indian market if implemented properly.

Force physical verification o fall imports by visual inspection. Withdraw staff. Create a MASSIVE backlog. Force importers to pay for wharehouse in the interim.

Slow the verification to a trickle making the import very expensive in term of time and cost (Wharehousing cost can really add up and turn a profit into a loss).

One of Non-tariff barrier.



This is a good start, if true. But they will circumvent it by shipping through third party countries with made in china sticker removed. Anyway, the costs should\will increase for them.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby M_Joshi » 25 Jun 2020 22:52

pankajs wrote:Image


Seems like an Indian operation to turn political tide in Nepal. Results seem good so far.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby darshan » 26 Jun 2020 01:07

Not acceptable. GoI needs to send team of software engineers to be stationed at each place and look into this. I'm sure that this people already have APIs that provide metadata on the country of origin.

You get five months but govt software engineers would need to be part of the scrum, trum, drum, etc.

Flipkart, Amazon And Others Want Five Months' Time Before Revealing Country Of Origin Of Their Products
https://swarajyamag.com/insta/flipkart- ... r-products
E-commerce giants like Flipkart and Amazon have reportedly sought a time of four to five months before they affix a "country of origin" label on the products sold at their platforms, Business Today has reported.

These labelling process which the government seeks to implement will help customers to choose between Indian made and foreign made products.

The e-commerce sellers which includes Reliance Retail, Jio Platforms, Tata Cliq, Snapdeal, Swiggy, Zomato, BigBasket and Grofers have been asked to revert back within 14 days after discussions with their sellers.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby RaviB » 26 Jun 2020 01:43

Rsatchi wrote:What did the Congress/UPA sign
Furthermore are there any sticking points in the MOU of Cong and CCP.
And for that matter will the MOU stand the test of international law if there is dispute?? :roll:


This MoU is subject to respective national laws, so international law does not apply.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby NRao » 27 Jun 2020 03:24

How can we keep China in check? Curb free-market fundamentalism.

China’s rise is forcing the United States to rethink its approach to the Pacific power. One strategy to keep the Asian giant in check will be both crucial and controversial: curbing free-market fundamentalism in favor of a limited national industrial policy.

China has been breathtakingly open about its audacious aims. It has systematically used trade with the West to acquire advanced technology, obtain the wealth needed to develop it and then employ both to acquire a dominant position in the technologies that further military power. The Communist government’s 10-year “Made in China 2025” plan, announced in 2015, clearly states its intent to dominate a range of militarily crucial technologies, including artificial intelligence and information technology. The combined population of the United States, the European Union and other close U.S. allies is roughly 1 billion people. China has more than 1.4 billion people. If it even reaches technological parity with the West, it would easily become the dominant global power.

President Trump’s administration and other leaders have begun to formulate a four-part strategy to fight back. The first step is to actively block Chinese penetration of key industrial sectors in the West. That’s what preventing China’s leading telecommunications company, Huawei, from building elements of Western countries’ 5G networks is about. The second step is to apply more leverage to force China to cease the industrial piracy and public subsidization of Chinese firms that unfairly tip the trading scales against Western companies. Each step makes some businesses uncomfortable, but these elements of American counter-strategy have significant and increasing support at home and abroad.

The next steps are much more controversial. China uses trade with Western nations to finance its mercantilist policies. Reducing the level of that trade through tariffs and other measures causes short-term pain to firms in the United States and other countries that sell to Chinese markets. These businesses predictably complain and pressure their governments to overlook China’s long-term plans. They are supported intellectually by free-market fundamentalists who themselves often underplay or overlook Chinese subversion of free markets. Many in this camp never see a tariff they like and almost always view Chinese subsidies of exports as a gift to American and Western consumers, overlooking the role those subsidies play in undermining the ability of Western firms to produce crucial goods on their own.

Things only get more contentious from there, particularly regarding industrial policy. It’s clear now that the United States will have to actively intervene in markets to enhance or maintain its capacity to produce goods in militarily sensitive areas. This is the open objective of Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), who has been widely criticized by free-market aficionados. They will also inevitably attack the Trump administration’s plan to promote a U.S. competitor to Huawei.

A new bill from Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) to incentivize domestic production of semiconductor chips is just the latest flash point in this titanic struggle. The legislation, called the American Foundries Act, appropriates $25 billion to subsidize and incentivize domestic manufacture of semiconductor manufacturing plants and other production and research facilities that will work toward keeping U.S. dominance in militarily important microelectronic technologies and ensuring sufficient capacity to produce goods reliant on those technologies in case of war. The bill is co-sponsored by Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) and four other liberal senators — along with Rubio and fellow conservative reformer Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.), among others.

Cotton’s bill thus crosses the fundamentalists’ Rubicon by directly employing federal funds in support of certain firms and tilting the playing field away from the goal of market efficiency. Rubio has described this strategy as one of building national resiliency, and it has applications well beyond semiconductors.

Cotton and Rubio are right. If we are serious about containing China’s threat, we must actively develop the industrial capacity and superiority that the United States had when it successfully contained the Soviet Union. This might make the nation somewhat poorer as more expensive, domestically produced goods redistribute wealth away from suburban consumers toward working-class producers, but it will make the United States infinitely richer in terms of increased security and greater national cohesion.

Free-market extremists often ignore history’s lessons about how great powers fall. Ancient Athens lost the Peloponnesian War because it lost access to its Black Sea grain supply when Spartan ships established a blockade. Britain’s blockade of imperial Germany hastened that country’s defeat in World War I. The emerging strategy to contain China seeks to prevent a similar fate from befalling the United States and the West.

Nations that cannot rely on domestic supplies of food, goods and important materials cannot win a war with a nation that controls access to those things. China is openly seeking to control that access and thus dominate the globe. The fight over legislation such as Cotton’s will thus determine whether the United States still has the will to defend itself and its ideals.


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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby VikramS » 27 Jun 2020 04:07

Suraj wrote:
KLNMurthy wrote:I am seeing confirmed leftists on WhatsApp suddenly worrying about the ecological destruction due to the activities on LAC, and how it is imperative that the conflict be ended ASAP to prevent environmental catastrophe. Because that is THE MOST CRITICAL thing. Don't think this psywar tactic has yet been reported on this forum here. I think it is a good tactic, as most Indians would be for "peace" and environmental preservation.

The peace/pacifism cultural attribute is indeed as prevalent in India as the 'order over freedom' one is in China. The only way to combat such elements is to emphasize what hypocritical frauds they are themselves. Not too hard to do - like the CCP, the entire elite ecosystem in India is an inherently corrupt and self serving apparatus.

In fact, I think there are great similarities between the CCP and the Congress ecosystem in India. The former just happens to have permanent control over power by virtue of its control over coercive power. If you interpret these two entities in this manner, it becomes very clear why they actually did something otherwise odd sounding as an MOU between them.



While they are both designed to provide Pelf, Privilege & Power, 21st century CCP is working hard to make China one of the, if not the most, dominant power in the world. In contrast the 21st century Congress will have little qualms in hurting Indian interests if it allows them to hang on to power.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Ardeshir » 27 Jun 2020 05:55


Gurus, have any of you read much of Ed Luttwak? I am on his third book now, the current one being "The Rise of China vs. the Logic of Strategy". The video above discusses the book. I would definitely incorporate some of the talking points mentioned here into my overall threat assessment. Some of these, incidentally, have in some round about way been mentioned in the Border Security thread - such as that of Chinese officers following prescribed tactics and not know what to do when the adversary does something unexpected.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby NRao » 27 Jun 2020 06:54

Japan’s Building Aircraft Carriers, China’s Thinking About Sinking Them

Imagine! Someone can think and write about that topic and no one but China acts on it. Rest of us analyze and feel great.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby samirdiw » 27 Jun 2020 09:20

Any true neutralizing approach has to be simple and based on few principles with other items as add-ons. It will have have to be both strategic in nature with some small tactical in between. Nothing has to be based on hope and mood of the Chinese and what will they think or do mentality that has plagued us since independence. It will have to be both at a Economic and Military level. Lets take military first

1. Our forces are being placed in a very tough situation where it is forced to only defend without being able to have the freedom to expand the borders. Cant think of many nations that have placed this burden on themselves and succeeded in history. We can never truly neutralize the Chinese unless we kick them out of South Asia by taking Half of Historical Tibet (matching to the Tibet state in current CCP maps). Both the nations will then be equally distant from their mainland with equal problems of supplying their troops. The Chinese have mentioned, if we cared to listen, that they are only worried about a change in attitude from us not what shiny weapons we buy. Limiting to Aksai Chin will not change anything even if we get it back. This will need a national consensus to be worked upon - at least between the two top parties. A tough but not impossible task.


2. Like all nations that get richer they like to fight from far to create intimidation and shock and awe which is shown by the large investment in artillary, conventional ballistic missiles, city busting nukes and so on. All their defense videos too point to the same thing. What do they threaten us with when they find us squatting in their land? Having the weapons that can also hurt them equally at a distance neutralizes this and they have no option but to engage us at a closer distance. Now with these two strategies it becomes easy to identify which few weapons we can put our money on to be at par or even superior instead of spreading the defense budget thin by trying to be only at a % gap in every area.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Kati » 27 Jun 2020 10:35

Hidden Back Door Embedded in Chinese Tax Software, Firm Says
William Turton
BloombergJune 25, 2020, 8:00 AM CDT


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Hidden Back Door Embedded in Chinese Tax Software, Firm Says
(Bloomberg) -- When a U.K.-based technology vendor started doing business in China, it hired a cybersecurity firm to proactively hunt for any digital threats that could arise as part of doing business in the country. The firm discovered a problem, one with such major implications that it alerted the FBI.

A state-owned bank in China had required the tech company to download software called Intelligent Tax to facilitate the filing of local taxes. The tax software worked as advertised, but it also installed a hidden back door that could give hackers remote command and control of the company’s network, according to a report published Thursday by the SpiderLabs team at Chicago-based Trustwave Holdings Inc. (The cybersecurity firm declined to identify the bank).

“Basically, it was a wide-open door into the network with system-level privileges and command and control server completely separate from the tax software’s network infrastructure,” Brian Hussey, vice president of cyber threat detection and response at Trustwave, wrote in a blog post, also published Thursday. The malware, which Trustwave dubbed GoldenSpy, isn’t downloaded and installed until two hours after the tax software installation is completed, he said.

Trustwave researchers determined that the malware connects to a server hosted in China.

It isn’t known how many other companies downloaded the malicious software, nor is the purpose of the malware clear or who is behind it, according to the report. Trustwave said it disrupted the intrusion at the tech company in the early stages. “However, it is clear the operators would have had the ability to conduct reconnaissance, spread laterally and exfiltrate data,” according to the report, adding that GoldenSpy had the characteristics of an Advanced Persistent Threat campaign. Such efforts are often associated with nation-state hacking groups.

Besides its client, Trustwave said it was aware of a “highly similar incident” that occurred at a major financial institution, which it didn’t name. “This could be leveraged against countless companies operating and paying taxes in China or may be targeted at only a select few organizations with access to vital information,” Trustwave wrote in its report. “We believe all corporations with Chinese operations should investigate for presence of GoldenSpy and remediate if necessary.”

Aisino Corporation, the developer of the Intelligent Tax software, didn’t respond to a request for comment, and Trustwave said it didn’t hear back from the company after alerting it to the malware discovery. Hussey said he briefed the Federal Bureau of Investigation on the findings on Wednesday.

Trustwave researchers believe the threat became active in April 2020, but they also discovered other variations of GoldenSpy going back to December 2016. It wasn’t clear what the hackers were after once it had successfully gained access to the tech company’s network, as they were discovered before they could exfiltrate data, Hussey said in an interview. Because the malware is included as part of software recommended by a bank, a target may be lulled into a false sense of security, Hussey said.

The malware was digitally signed by another Chinese company, Nanjing Chenkuo Network Technology, which helped it bypass the U.K. tech company’s anti-virus and security systems, according to Trustwave. When Trustwave reached out to Nanjing about the malware, its emailed bounced back, Hussey said. The malware is built to persist inside of a company’s network -- when one part of the malware is shut down, another part will re-install the malicious program, according to the report.

Trustwave is asking businesses and computer security researchers with information about the malware to contact them.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby nishant.gupta » 27 Jun 2020 12:42

Couple of articles from TOI yesterday reeking of Chinese propaganda to show that we are powerless without their manufacturing.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby amar_p » 27 Jun 2020 14:49

I remember an Indian glass mfg company called BoroSil, presumably deriving their name from BoroSilicate glass they manufactured. Not sure where they are now.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Manish_Sharma » 27 Jun 2020 15:51

TWITTER

@daeroplate:

each S400 'regiment' is a complex networked zoo of specialized vehicles - sensors, shooters, C3I, loaders, engineering support, comms - US Patriot is very simple in comparison , the naval SM-x does have more than 6 evos now.

https://twitter.com/daeroplate/status/1 ... 73920?s=19

we can also expect HQ22 arrayed all around the region https://t.co/Lbxa3X9mVA there is no reason not to bring atleast some of their best onsite if the idea is to reduce disk/scare india/teach a lesson
https://twitter.com/daeroplate/status/1 ... 87488?s=19

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby sanjayc » 27 Jun 2020 16:11

Lot of articles being sponsored by Chinese embassy in Indian newspapers against trade boycott

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby samirdiw » 27 Jun 2020 19:32

Quoting Deans from another thread as that thread was more for current happenings on ground.

Deans wrote:Indian army doctrine is to defend our territory, not liberate Tibet. That is sensible considering that we do no have the numbers necessary for
offensive operations in the mountains. If somehow we succeed, we won't have the logistics necessary to cover the long distances, nor the reserves of weapons & ammunition.

Only when one sees the terrain and the effects of high altitude can one put aside notions of masses of men and tanks rushing forward to liberate Tibet etc.


Hi Deans, the question is not whether we have the capacity now to liberate but what it will take to liberate Tibet in terms of men, weaponry (Indian) and logistics.

This question should have been asked since the first news of Chinese incursion in that land in '59. If we plan for this would Pak be even a thing to bother about. Doesn't China always say that they plan for US then what is India. Look how much they have succeeded with this approach.
These are ultimately numbers (for the most part) and the numbers can change with a sudden change in china's economy and a problem in their east. As long as we have a flexible doctrine and to plan to take advantage of the new status quo. Everybody knows its difficult and unlikely to succeed with the current power status quo.

A liberated Tibet is both in the interests of India and the Tibetian people is it not?

Lets work backward with that aim in mind. Say the current crisis is managed, China grows at the same pace it does for 10 years while for India you had the ability to add the capability of your choice. Leave aside monetary or assume size of US military budget for now.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby darshan » 27 Jun 2020 20:09

Need more actions. Lot of rot to deal with. An action per hour. And jailing of a brown lizard per minute.

Union govt announces 100%-170% hike in salaries for employees involved in road construction in difficult and high-risk border areas
https://www.opindia.com/2020/06/govt-nh ... in-ladakh/
The National Highways and Infrastructure Development Corporation has announced an increase in the salaries of its personnel posted in high altitude and difficult areas in Uttarakhand, North-east India, Jammu and Kashmir, and Ladakh with effect from June 1. The increase ranges from 100% to 170% towards risk allowance, which is aimed at checking the attrition level of staff posted in high-risk and difficult terrains along the border. The move assumes significance as the government wants to accelerate the construction work at the border areas for better connectivity and infrastructure along with the high-altitude areas and difficult terrain areas.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby darshan » 27 Jun 2020 20:13

Journalists, researchers, policymakers among China’s international espionage ring: Reports
https://www.opindia.com/2020/06/journal ... -spy-ring/
Now, an explosive report by Wion reveals that China is aggressively scaling up its non-traditional espionage activities across the world. The report states that the scale of the spy rings operated by China is unprecedented and is much larger than that of the cold war era. It also claims that the Chinese spy rings include people from all professions—journalists, policymakers, political leaders, researches and many others.

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Postby darshan » 27 Jun 2020 20:55

GoI needs to incentivize young kids to find security issues. Offer free tuitions to admissions into colleges to whatever it takes. With such a large population of technology oriented people, number of security findings coming out of India are still pretty low.



TikTok is secretly accessing your iPhone’s clipboard: Report raises massive security concern about Chinese app snooping on users
https://www.opindia.com/2020/06/tiktok- ... y-concern/
The Chinese social media video streaming app, TikTok, has been the subject of yet another controversy. According to a Forbes report, it has been found to be snooping on people by exploiting a bug in iOS 14 and accessing the clipboard secretly. While allegations surrounding security concerns of the said app are not new, a fresh set of concerns was raised by security experts Talal Haj Bakry and Tommy Mysk.

The Data Vulnerability of TikTok

Forbes reported that Apple had a universal clipboard functionality which implied that anything copied on the Macbook could also be read on the iPhone or iPad. In case TikTok is active on a phone that is used for work, then, the app can read financial information, passwords, sensitive data, documents, and so on. When the Chinese app was exposed in early 2020, there were questions about how the user data was put to use by the company. But, with the recent security update in Apple’s security features, the app is forced to make changes.

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Modi govt to draw list of countries to replace China in supplying critical components that cannot be manufactured locally
https://www.opindia.com/2020/06/india-m ... omponents/

In a bid to reduce the dependence on China for critical imports, the Modi government has coming up with a plan to look for alternatives that can replace China in supplying critical components to the country. According to the reports, the Union government has decided to draw a list of countries that can act as suppliers of critical components which are not manufactured in India currently.

Reportedly, the fast-tracking of such critical decisions at the backdrop of Modi government scrutinising various Free Trade Agreements (FTAs) with countries which have similar pacts with both India and China. The government has decided to relook at the trade pacts after China began to misuse these to access Indian markets and inversion of Indian duties.

The government is carefully re-looking at FTAs such as the South Asian Free Trade Area (SAFTA), ASEAN, bilateral pacts with Japan, Singapore, to check for loopholes that make it easier for Chinese imports to reach India without following the due duty structure. It is believed that China is routing its goods to the Indian markets by making use of these agreements.

The government is also reviewing the Asia Pacific Agreement (APA), which directly links India and China, South Korea, Bangladesh, Laos, and Sri Lanka. This move will allow India to ensure that cheap Chinese products are not allowed to flood Indian markets.

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Reduce need for disposables and cheap stuff.



Hundreds of local artisans trained to make handcrafted leak-proof bamboo bottlers under Pradhan Mantri Van Dhan Vikas Yojana in Tripura
https://www.opindia.com/2020/06/hundred ... n-tripura/

The bamboo bottles are the result of efforts by IFS officer Prasad Rao, who is providing tribal artisans training to create daily use items from bamboo, an abundantly available crop in the state. Earlier, he had trained 1000 people to make bamboo broom handles. After the success of that initiative, six months ago he began training artisan families to manufacture bamboo bottles. Talking to The Better India, the Managing Director of Tripura Rehabilitation Plantation Corporation Limited said, “For almost three to four months we have been immersed in the research and development of this product. We wanted to create something that not just looks good but is of international standards.”

The bamboo bottles were first introduced by the state of Sikkim to avoid the use of single-use plastic bottles and unusual littering earlier this year. The Lachen town in Sikkim was the very first to ban packaged drinking water and introduce the Bamboo water bottles to avoid any kind of environmental desecration.

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Interview with Gordon Chang (China expert he is good)

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Postby NRao » 28 Jun 2020 02:53

China opened an embassy on a tiny, remote Pacific island during the pandemic. Here's why the

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Yet Kiribati is the site of growing geopolitical competition.

Last September, it switched diplomatic recognition from Taipei to Beijing. China considers the self-governed island of Taiwan a breakaway province and has poached seven of its diplomatic allies since 2016.

And this week, Kiribati's pro-Beijing President Taneti Maamau -- who oversaw the country's diplomatic switch -- won a closely watched election after campaigning for closer ties with China, defeating an opposition rival who was sympathetic to Taiwan.

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I did not expect this. Movement in the right direction. Words. Need actionS.

China’s Xi Jinping is a successor to dictator Joseph Stalin: US NSA O’Brien

In a stinging attack, US NSA Robert O’Brien calls American China policy a blunder. Says this is the first of many speeches on China, right from Secretary of State Pompeo and Attorney General Barr, to FBI Director Chris Wra


US National Security Advisor Robert O’Brien on Friday launched the Trump administration’s sharpest attack on Chinese government, comparing President Xi Jinping to Russia’s brutal dictator Joseph Stalin whose policies killed millions, and warning that the Chinese Communist Party was seeking leverage over individual Americans through propaganda and collection of their “most intimate data” via big Chinese companies that made huge investments and had even pressured Hollywood into self-censorship.

Robert O’Brien, who described the foreign policy calculations of consecutive US governments towards Beijing as the US’ ”biggest miscalculation” since the 1930s, said China’s efforts to control the mind of people residing beyond its borders was underway. The communist party, he said, was using trade to coerce compliance with its diktats.

While NSA Robert C. O’Brien has come out openly detailing the penetration of the Chinese Communist Party in the US, his Indian counterpart Ajit Doval - as president of the Delhi-based think tank Vivekananda International Foundation - had written a paper on the penetration of PLA intelligence in “enemy countries”. The NSA, in his paper accessed by Hindustan Times, had explained the structure of people’s Liberation Army intelligence and use of propaganda as a tool in democratic nations, an evidence of which the world is now recognising in the US, Australia, Canada, and Brazil.

O’Brien said the Trump administration had started taking corrective steps and outlined six steps taken by the administration to curb the Chinese influence in the US. But he underlined that this was just the beginning.

In his address to a group of people at Phoenix in Arizona, O’Brien underscored that there really was no difference between mega Chinese firms and the communist party in power in Beijing.

“The Chinese Communist Party seeks total control over the people’s lives. This means economic control, it means political control, it means physical control, and, perhaps most importantly, it means thought control,” he said, according to the transcript released by the White House.

O’Brien referred to the analysis by an Australian official that in Classical Chinese statecraft, there were two tools for gaining and maintaining control: the first is ‘wu’, weapons and violence, and the second is ‘wen’, language and culture. Chinese leaders have always believed that power derives from controlling both the physical battlefield and the cultural domain.

The NSA cited several instances when China, in addition to propaganda, used trade to coerce compliance with its dictates. Like when Australia called for an independent investigation of the coronavirus disease, the Chinese Communist Party threatened to stop buying Australian agricultural products.

O’Brien added that the Chinese reach extends to heads of international organisations who are not themselves Chinese officials.

China, he said, heads 4 out of 15 UN specialised agencies, more than the US, the UK, France and Russia, the other members of the permanent members of the UN Security Council, combined. He alleged that China uses these leaders to force the international bodies to parrot Beijing’s talking points and to install Chinese telecommunications equipment in their facilities.

For example, since Zhao Houlin of the International Telecommunications Union took his post, he began to aggressively promote Huawei sales. Secretary-General Fang Liu of the International Civil Aviation Organisation has blocked Taiwan’s participation in General Assembly meetings and covered up a Chinese hack of the organisation. The CPC has used China’s membership on the UN Human Rights Council to prevent criticism of its abuses in Xinjiang and Hong Kong, he said.

Outlining how the CCP’s strategy could touch American lives, he said the CCP was collecting “the most intimate data — your words, your actions, your purchases, your whereabouts, your health records, your social media posts, your texts, and mapping your network of friends, family, and acquaintances”.

“The CCP accomplishes this goal, in part, by subsidizing hardware, software, telecommunications, and even genetics companies. As a result, corporations such as Huawei and ZTE undercut competitors on price and install their equipment around the globe at a loss. This has the side effect of putting out of business American manufacturers of telecom hardware and has made it very difficult for Nokia and Ericsson. Why do they do it? Because it is not telecom hardware or software profits the CCP are after, it is your data. They use “backdoors” built into the products to obtain that data,” he said.

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Investors in talks with firms to diversify China exposure in supply chain, funding

BENGALURU: India’s investor community has begun conversations with companies to diversify their China exposure and search for alternatives, whether it is for production and supply chain or fundraising, four people aware of these discussions told ET.

“This sentiment against China is not a gimmick, it’s here to stay,” said a venture capitalist at a toptier fund based in Bengaluru.

For consumer brands and electric mobility startups, this would largely mean finding alternative supply chain channels in India for manufacturing components and packaging materials, while social commerce players will have to relook at their suppliers’ backend procurement processes, the sources said.

Even ecommerce companies like Flipkart and Amazon, which are heavily dependent on smartphone sales anchored by Chinese brands, are figuring out newer strategies. Amazon, for instance, is betting big on promoting local stores on its platform.

“Covid has clearly penalised companies with global supply chains, especially ones with strong China dependencies,” said Varun Alagh, CEO of MamaEarth, a fast-growing personal care brand. “For us, the movement of B2B supply chain to India has been an ongoing process for the last year. It has of course been expedited now.” MamaEarth has grown 25% in May over its pre-Covid-19 average on the back of its capability to scale its India capacity. Chirag Taneja, chief revenue officer at BSC, said, “’Made in India’ narrative is on the rise in the country. Over the last few weeks, we have seen significantly higher conversion rates for advertisements having such made in India theme.”

Funding rounds are also seeing an impact of the increasing anti-China sentiment following the killing of 20 Indian soldiers at Galwan Valley in eastern Ladakh and the ongoing standoff between the two countries along the Line of Actual Control.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby Kati » 29 Jun 2020 12:47

One more Chinese spy caught ....

Chinese Professor Convicted of Stealing trade Secrets for China

https://www.voanews.com/usa/chinese-pro ... rets-china

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby darshan » 29 Jun 2020 17:26

While it feels soothing to see all these news of chinese people being caught, it is little late and not enough. There needs to be a step response to jolt the response rather than a catch here and there. Tons of companies upon bad advise from their corporate lawyers didn't even report or provide information about espionage to federals. There needs to be similar hate as they possess for Russians. Presently I don't see that disdain for chinese. Even from an engineer working on counter measures specific to chinese in US MIC. Newborns in US cry their hate for Russians but are welcoming to chinese. This needs to change and fast. I still haven't heard from my contacts in commercial industry about any changes. Till I here that sales people in these commercial industry are irritated about doing business in China, it's all charade between US and China. Nothing but WWE match.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby NRao » 29 Jun 2020 19:33

The disdain for China is loud and clear among US military circles. especially among the upper echelons. In fact, China is a very clear #1 enemy. No two ways.

That has not percolated to the US MIC only because, imho, most of today's military technologies make war very impersonal, although there are very well known exceptions.

US commercial side is beholden to the Tim Cooks, Sunder, and those multi millionaire CEOs on wall street, who are a lot more interested in making money than engaging in or supporting a military chess game. China to them is $$$$$$$$$$$.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby darshan » 29 Jun 2020 21:11

Upper circle can change the tune as they have done before after Korean war. After all political entities are hard to trust. So I am looking for that perennial anger to come to the US voters. Similar to their disdain for Russians. I'm hoping that all that stuff in regards to China comes out during the upcoming election to spark this proper identification of the enemy.

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Re: Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (15-11-2017)

Postby abhik » 29 Jun 2020 21:21

Finally some concrete action, Chinese apps banned (including TikTok, ShareIt) via @ShivAroor
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