Understanding the US - Again

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The lying sack of sh!t Secretary of Treasury, Janet Yellen, now says inflation is not transitory and will be here for some time - finally acknowledging what's happening. Couple this with the Federal Reserve raising 10yr treasuries a half-percentage point, plus the Fed selling pandemic time purchases of treasuries, and bear equity markets, the US economy is set to contract next year. Throw in the loss of the incumbent party in 2022 leading to further government dysfunction, people will reject the Xiden admin. I do not see any reason for GoI to seriously engage with the US government until Jan. 2025. Already the Xiden admin has created AUKUS, with maybe added Japan, as a parallel to QUAD, so any 2+2 will be chai-biskoot sessions.
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They think American people are stupid by blaming it all on "Putin's price hike" ! Weird country US has become...
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Cyrano wrote:They think American people are stupid by blaming it all on "Putin's price hike" ! Weird country US has become...
The public is very sceptical about the statements coming from the Xiden administration. Their party are facing major losses in the mid-term elections.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/bi ... al-rating/
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Mort ji,
Why this administration shows a visceral hatred of Russia and Putin? Why now after the Afghanistan debacle? Apart from the obvious (to BRFites) explanations often discussed here, is there something else that explains why Biden & Dems seem to be risking it all on Ukraine? How visible and important is Ukraine for amreeki janata ?
Thanks.
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It is not just this administration only. Even GOP are war-mongering. Arms to UkA has bi-partisan support.
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Cyrano wrote:Mort ji,
Why this administration shows a visceral hatred of Russia and Putin? Why now after the Afghanistan debacle? Apart from the obvious (to BRFites) explanations often discussed here, is there something else that explains why Biden & Dems seem to be risking it all on Ukraine? How visible and important is Ukraine for amreeki janata ?
Thanks.
I read somewhere that the roots are here.
Project for the New American Century
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^^^

This is a conclusion even I am arriving at. Because the end of cold war left US as the sole surviving global power.

Russia is one of the few power's with the natural resources to challenge the US.

Keeping Russians off balance will help in increasing the period of US supremacy.

But this plan did not consider the rise of PRC.

The US has not been able to adapt itself to the new reality. So it continues to antagonise Russians.

While the PRC feeds off US wealth.
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Cyrano gaaru,

Several examples come to mind re. double standards of the elite LeLis of the US.

1. Bill Clinton gets away with many peccadillos
2. Sexual harassment charges against Neil deGrasse Tyson are swept under the rug
3. Same with Garrison Keillor. I like his "A Prairie Home Companion", "Lake Wobegon Days", and "Guy Noir" skits on NPR.
...
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Pratyush wrote:^^^
While the PRC feeds off US wealth.
Looks like the media is waking up to the new realities. MSNBC is making noises that Biden should not send arms to UkA. GOP probably wants the war. Fox NN is fanning the warmongering and they are the voice of GOP.
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Twitter (TWTR) announced on Monday that it has entered into a deal to be acquired by Tesla CEO Elon Musk for $44 billion. Twitter shareholders will receive $54.20 per share, and when the deal is finalized the social network will become a privately held company.

Will await the new censorship guideline.
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Cyrano wrote:Mort ji,
Why this administration shows a visceral hatred of Russia and Putin? Why now after the Afghanistan debacle? Apart from the obvious (to BRFites) explanations often discussed here, is there something else that explains why Biden & Dems seem to be risking it all on Ukraine? How visible and important is Ukraine for amreeki janata ?
Thanks.
Sorry, I've been away since Saturday.

Aside from nuclear weapons, Russia itself is not a conventional military, economic or industrial threat. The natural resources of Russia are vast and the Chinese have a direct access to those resources which will then be inaccessible for the US and Europe. The biggest fear US planners have are the resources east of the Urals adjacent to China will be ceded to the Chinese. Note Biden's comments in early Feb. where he hinted as much. Since the Ukraine invasion it is clear that Russia is out of the western orbit; therefore, Russia must be broken into different republics - Balkanized now.

This policy isn't unique to the Dems in the US. It is also the policy of traditional RINOs (Republicans). There is no difference between Clinton, Bush, Obama, McCain, Romney and many of the other traditional regime change neocons and neolibs. They see the years of 2017-2021 as an aberration and now it's time to get back to business as usual.
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Mort ji,

American aam may not like what the DS wants to "achieve". I see some oppo building up slowly but surely for this idea of transferring billions of USD to Pakraine in the form of weapons, especially when inflation and recession are staring in their face. Only Wall Street and Silly-conmen are somewhat elated but frightened out of their wits as well.
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Twitter on Monday announced it has accepted billionaire Elon Musk's bid to takeover the social media company for $44 billion. Elon Musk will soon hold the keys to Twitter. The company announced on Monday that it has accepted the Tesla CEO's $44 billion offer to take the company private


one needs to see how this plays out now or will the deep state sponsor the development of twitter clones to maintain it's hold on the media and information war narrative
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Can someone post a link to Timesnow Speech by Hillary Clinton in Mumbai?
Thank you in advance.
The text would be even better.

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Ok found it as part of a 10 hour Youtube.



From 9:00:00 to 50 minutes.
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chetak wrote:Twitter on Monday announced it has accepted billionaire Elon Musk's bid to takeover the social media company for $44 billion. Elon Musk will soon hold the keys to Twitter. The company announced on Monday that it has accepted the Tesla CEO's $44 billion offer to take the company private


one needs to see how this plays out now or will the deep state sponsor the development of twitter clones to maintain it's hold on the media and information war narrative
The meltdown on Twitter is epic.

Elon Musk is buying Twitter.

CNN+ is shutting down.

Disney is being reined in.

It's a bad time to be woke.

Peppermint Patty was talking about repeal/revisit of Section 230. When Trump suggested it, there was full scale condemnation.
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Hillary Clinton is interesting.
NaMo is lifting the bottom quartile of the Indian population to be above BPL.
IMF/Wb just last week admitted extreme poverty has been eliminated not just reduced in India.
And she prescribes that to India!
Her bokwas about India's support of Russia is jarring.
US can act in its own interest but India has to act per the US interest.
And is telling many erroneous statements.
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Mort the big project of unseating Trump is over.
Hence Wokeism is being wound up.
And soon they will blame wokeism for Biden.
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I am flummoxed by her talk.
If her mission is to convince India to drop ties with Russia after all from Biden Admin has failed she also has not been able to do that with her preachy airy talk full of half-truths.
So what purpose was this visit?
All she does is tell old Jambavan stories from 1990s.
Indians know History that's one thing they are curious about and are well informed about.
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HRC is trying to stay relevant and keep the money flowing - much like Gandy/Neverwho clan. She has health issues and doesn't have the stamina for another full US presidential campaign in 2024 at age 77. The Conclave should not have invited her, but a more recent Obama official, or a current US Senator.
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IMO its still a positive that she was invited. WRT Russia, she will of course push the US administration line. I remember her similarly pushing the Bush admin line on Iraq WMD. Clearly her info on India is somewhat dated, and this conference would have provided new info.
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vera_k wrote:IMO its still a positive that she was invited. WRT Russia, she will of course push the US administration line. I remember her similarly pushing the Bush admin line on Iraq WMD. Clearly her info on India is somewhat dated, and this conference would have provided new info.
The whole Russia Gate was her scam on the American people. With active connivance from the non Fox media and the democratic party and outgoing Obama administration.
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US THREATENS THE SOLOMON ISLANDS


U.S. does not rule out military action in Solomon Islands
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^ After its Afghanistan & Iraq failures, it seems the hyperpower has finally decided to pick on someone its own size.
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Rudradev wrote:^ After its Afghanistan & Iraq failures, it seems the hyperpower has finally decided to pick on someone its own size.
Ouch.
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@cspan · 26 Apr.

@PressSec on @elonmusk purchasing @twitter: "The president has long been concerned about the power of large social media platforms, the power they have over our everyday lives, has long argued that tech platforms must be held accountable for the harms they cause."
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@Eluttwak:

It is now US policy to persuade US investors to reduce investment in China. But the largest US hedge fund, BlackRock, declares that investment in China should be tripled. And MIT refuses to cooperate w the FBI to resist Chinese science & tech espionage. Counterpressure needed
https://twitter.com/ELuttwak/status/151 ... 90W6A&s=19
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Pratyush wrote:The whole Russia Gate was her scam on the American people. With active connivance from the non Fox media and the democratic party and outgoing Obama administration.
FWIW, here's how the part about the Iraq WMD was explained later on. If this is taken at face value, any conversation you are able to have that does not align with whatever info may have been fed to her will hopefully result in further research.

Wiki entry
Clinton later said that she did not read the full classified National Intelligence Estimate that was delivered ten days before the vote to all members of Congress, and that gave a more subtle case for Iraq possessing weapons of mass destruction than the Bush Administration's abridged summary, but that she was briefed on the report.
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the us is threatening to do exactly what it is accusing russia of doing

how does this work

or is it simply because us wars are "good wars" and russki wars are "bad wars"

sauce, goose, and gander principle not equally applicable to all


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US is already trying out its tried and tested regime change formula in Solomon Islands, sending some state dept people there to "reinforce democracy".
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There is enough textual evidence already put in Wikipedia about the need to "civilize" Solomon Islands. More "freedom" on the way probably for less than a million inhabitants based on wiki. Also Australia was making statements about intervention.
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An interesting thread:
https://twitter.com/Tom_Fowdy/status/15 ... 50176?s=20
American foreign policy strategy refuses to compromise with adversaries under any circumstances. Instead, it seeks to utilize every aspect of state power in order to try and make these countries capitulate to zero-sum goals in ensuring maximum strategic gain.

In no circumstances does the US make strategic concessions to adversaries purely for the sake of peace. For example they would rather have North Korea sit indefinitely under tough sanctions maintaining the "complete denuclearisation" demand, than to find any middle ground.

Another example is that they would rather see Ukraine completely destroyed than to ever compromise on NATO expansion or settle for any outcome which gives Russia more influence.

Essentially modern American foreign policy is one of perpetual containment against perceived challenges to its hegemony that it might be able to sustain that position, using war, sanctions and a monopoly over global technology and finance as its tool kit.

American hegemony cannot be feasibly challenged until countries master how to ensure military, financial and technological independence from them, whilst not suffering the inevitable consequences of American policies to prevent that from happening.

Mao Zedong once said that the US would never step down from history on its own accord and he is right. The current system will never ever surrender its hegemonic position.

For all the focus on Russia, the reality is also true that the US is willing and prepared to wage some devastating wars than ever risk losing control of some parts of the globe. People seem to underestimate what they'd be prepared to do.
I was never really willing to look at the US this way, given there are so many other aspects about America that I like, so much marketing that I've swallowed over the years, that to crystallise similar thoughts that crossed my mind from time to time would have led to my losing all respect for this country, leading to total mistrust and perhaps even stir some hatred. Tom Fowdy's few lines forced me to recognise this sad fact about the US in full frontal mode.
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No superpower is willing to concede the mantel to its successor, they just are forced to fade into oblivion as happened with the Brutish and before them the Dutch. In all likelihood the present transition will be bloodier than usual because US has so much bad blood built - does not preclude WW3 which will inflict heavy damage and result in a pyrrhic victory to whomever is left standing.
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One of the mistakes many make is that Brutish waning empire caused the US to rise. The fact is that the Deep state from the Brutish in its new avatar is the US Deep State. Now the Deep state has global fangs and one of them happens to be in the land of China. Mao's Red Book was written by Columbia Univ John Dewey. There is massive money behind all this which is never reported in any form. The massive money stream juggles various facets including MSM, MIC, funding/bribing key decision makers in many nations, orchestrating global chaos, global trends/themes and much more. The base seeding of the initial money stream came from systematically looting the two global leaders in world GDP - India and China.
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^^^ “did not read” the briefing papers. Ahh the old ‘it was not corruption me lord only incompetence’.
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Cyrano wrote:US is already trying out its tried and tested regime change formula in Solomon Islands, sending some state dept people there to "reinforce democracy".

TUM KARO TO CHAMATKAR HUM KARE TOH BALATKAR

the irony is lost on the amerkis and the aussies

when their heads are so far up certain orifices, the only view that they have is colored, as always, by their ever present imperial tunnel vision

do they fear that another cuba in the making but without the prized cuban cigars
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The Elon Musk take over of Twitter still has some distance to go. He may back out if it impacts Tesla shares, although it will cost him over $1B penalty and additional fees in the $100s of million. Losing upto $2B is better than losing over $20B. TWTR $48.64 and buying price is $54.20. If this is a done deal then might as well buy a few million $$ of TWTR and make a quick 11% return.

There is some talk of making Twitter open source SM platform where you post in it and it shows up in other SM platforms - analogy (a bad one) like WhatsApp across multiple phone carriers.
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Mort Walker wrote:If this is a done deal then might as well buy a few million $$ of TWTR and make a quick 11% return.
Not a done deal yet, I think shareholders would get to vote and there's likely some regulatory approval. Like you said, also depends on tesla holding it's value and who knows the gov might intervene and stop it.

Not worth it imo, especially given Musk's behaviour and unpredictability. If he announces some crazy plans for twitter in the coming months, it will affect it's value.
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I do not know Elon Musk's political leanings.
but his having bought Twitter - undermines Trump's SM platform. people will be swayed to come back to Twitter. monopoly remains (without looking like it).
undermines any need to ban or regulate twitter. giving it a free run for any bias/influence in 2024.
indirectly saving other platforms like Whatsapp, FB, Instagram.
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