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Stuff you don't see on US mainstream media.

This is from July 2021, Seattle WA (home district of Pramila Paypal).



Seattle area Muslim politician threatens to blow up school bus
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Islamophobia.
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Rudradevji, the video says 2010? Perhaps uploaded in youtube only now?
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Possible. And if so, all the more pathetic. It seems Mohtarmas could terrorize schoolchildren & then be elected to local govt positions in the Seattle area in *later* years. Around the same time when Jamia Paypal got elected to Congress & became a full-time Modi/India basher and frequent panel guest at CAIR/ICNA/IAMC events.

The message is clear to MusIims all over the US. Consolidate your votes in local immigrant ghettoes, conduct a little low-grade terrorism while playing the victim on viral videos, and the Coastal Elite parents of the children you terrorized will happily sign up to be Dhimmis.
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100% jewish conspiracy to deface the religion of peace.
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Rudradev wrote:It seems Mohtarmas could terrorize schoolchildren & then be elected to local govt positions in the Seattle area in *later* years. Around the same time when Jamia Paypal got elected to Congress & became a full-time Modi/India basher and frequent panel guest at CAIR/ICNA/IAMC events.
She went to jail over it. Mentally unstable and wanted to go to jail as she thought that was her best option. I know a homeless guy like this who purposefully gets arrested by shoplifting because at least in jail he can sleep and get some food.

That crazy chic Pramila Jaypal is the worst though.

https://www.redmond-reporter.com/news/k ... s-threats/
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"I know a homeless guy like this who purposefully gets arrested by shoplifting because at least in jail he can sleep and get some food." >> reminds me of the short story "the cop and the anthem" by O Henry written over a century ago. One of my fav American authors along with Mark Twain.
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Cyrano wrote:"I know a homeless guy like this who purposefully gets arrested by shoplifting because at least in jail he can sleep and get some food." >> reminds me of the short story "the cop and the anthem" by O Henry written over a century ago. One of my fav American authors along with Mark Twain.
I remember the story. Guy decides to mend his ways, and is right away arrested by cop for sleeping on bench.
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https://americanenglish.state.gov/files ... anthem.pdf

Enjoy ! O Henry and Maupassant - they both out do each other...
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Sorry that link goes to a dumbed down version with tasteless wordsoup replacing O Henry's prose bedecked with irony and charm. Why would a US Govt State Department website do that ?!! Eek !!

Use this: https://americanliterature.com/author/o ... the-anthem
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Cyrano wrote:"I know a homeless guy like this who purposefully gets arrested by shoplifting because at least in jail he can sleep and get some food." >> reminds me of the short story "the cop and the anthem" by O Henry written over a century ago. One of my fav American authors along with Mark Twain.
But both are not in favor anymore - Twain for being a racist (Injun Joe and for Huck's African-Anrican companion on the boat when Huck runs away) and O. Henry for being anti-semitic.
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Please continue the discussion on writers in the Books thread: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3736&start=1280
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Cyrano wrote:Sorry that link goes to a dumbed down version with tasteless wordsoup replacing O Henry's prose bedecked with irony and charm. Why would a US Govt State Department website do that ?!! Eek !!

Use this: https://americanliterature.com/author/o ... the-anthem
Thank you. Lovely to read that O.Henry prose after a long time.
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Why Biden is by far the most radical of US presidents ! ..Not Trump by any means, loudmouthed but by far far less so.

Lighting up a match in middle east ., Iranian "deal" with no roll back of its nuclear or missile development., sanction free Iran will literally set the fox in the hen house.

Pushing "peaceful" NATO expansion in Europe crossing Russian red lines., conflagration and flash points in Europe

Attempts to "recruit" India to push for an aggressive anti China campaign

Biden is now no longer the Biden he was, but rather biding by the decisions of the "inner government"

Biden is likely to go to the extent of seriously polarizing the US itself
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kit wrote:

Why Biden is by far the most radical of US presidents ! ..Not Trump by any means, loudmouthed but by far far less so.

Lighting up a match in middle east ., Iranian "deal" with no roll back of its nuclear or missile development., sanction free Iran will literally set the fox in the hen house.

Pushing "peaceful" NATO expansion in Europe crossing Russian red lines., conflagration and flash points in Europe

Attempts to "recruit" India to push for an aggressive anti-China campaign

Biden is now no longer the Biden he was, but rather abiding by the decisions of the "inner government"

Biden is likely to go to the extent of seriously polarizing the US itself
I think we should look at later Roman Emperors who destroyed Roman power by their personal choices.
Biden falls into that category.
The recent speech by Ted Cruz supporting India shows that there is no longer a unified American stance on foreign policy.
So Victor Hanson Davis is correct that the US is getting polarized.
Soon it will be Democrat President and Republican President.
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CIA open source " intel" Stratfor and strategy page seems to be singing a different India tune vs China !! wonders never cease !
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Also we see a struggle in Europe between Third Rome Moscow and the New Rome Washington DC.

New Rome is trying to put the Communism tag on Third Rome but failing.

As New Rome prides itself as a Roman successor,
Biden most represents Claudius among the first twelve emperors.
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Since it is the understanding US thread.

I have never understood why the US thought that the Russians will be convinced with explanation of Biden's demand for getting the prosecutor fired.

Of when Trump was impeached for asking the comedian to look into the firing of the prosecutor. Putin would think that Ukraine is not an American puppet.

I am reaching 2 conclusions

1) US Deep State is okay with a Russia PRC alliance. If that compelled the EU to rearm. Something that we are already seeing.

2) that they are foolish beyond belief. In thinking that Russia in the lap of PRC. When PRC has attained the peak of ots power. Can be handled by US and it's alliance system.
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US Deep State are very confident in their ability to mount a successful colour revolution in Russia itself, in the short to medium term. They calculate that Putin has dug his own grave by invading Ukraine. That Russian aam janta will turn against him as the sanctions-related misery and war deaths compound. Then a pliable Yeltsin/Navalny type can be placed in Moscow and Russia will join the US camp against China... this is their endgame.
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Lots of Ukrainians are asking why they got rid of their nuclear weapons; convinced by the US that they will be protected through NATO by various administrations from both parties. Lesson learned - don't become a pappu.
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Rudradev wrote: Snip....

Then a pliable Yeltsin/Navalny type can be placed in Moscow and Russia will join the US camp against China... this is their endgame.
It's extremely ambitious. Ukraine will suffer tremendously before any of that materializes.

IMO, Ukraine is getting smashed because of their own foolishness.

I don't think Ukraine giving up nukes was foolish in it's own right. It was to antagonise Russia for west. Inspite of Russia warning about what this antagonism will lead to.
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Rudradev wrote:US Deep State are very confident in their ability to mount a successful colour revolution in Russia itself, in the short to medium term. They calculate that Putin has dug his own grave by invading Ukraine. That Russian aam janta will turn against him as the sanctions-related misery and war deaths compound. Then a pliable Yeltsin/Navalny type can be placed in Moscow and Russia will join the US camp against China... this is their endgame.
Some in the deep state may want that who are part of the MIC, but others may not. The Chinese have their hooks deep into the corporate, academic and political class of the US and have lots of cash to push their view. We may see three major powers: The US, China and Europe who will partition the world as they see fit. China will control all of Asia.
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Pratyush wrote:
It's extremely ambitious. Ukraine will suffer tremendously before any of that materializes.

IMO, Ukraine is getting smashed because of their own foolishness.
The key is that the West is perfectly happy to have Ukrainian people suffer, get smashed & humiliated, and brew centuries of bitter resentment against Russia. This suits them extremely well.

Pakistan, or even moreso a hypothetical Khalistan, are appropriate analogies for the present Ukraine in multiple ways. See how much mileage the BIFs get out of Op Bluestar or 1984 riots nearly 40 years later.
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To me the analogy is India Pakistan partition. Post partition India doesn't have to show it self as an overt Hindu state, that is Anti Pakistan and by extension Anti muslim.

But Pakistan has to show itself as not India and anti hindu. In order for them to be Muslim's.

The difference is that Ukraine lacked any sense of self preservation due to its anti Russia tendencies. Just like Pakistan before 71 war.

After the 71 war, Pakistan has not really tried to fight India head on.

This war is the 71 moment for Ukraine. They will be broken in multiple parts. The military will be smashed. But the core of Anti Russia ultra nationalists will remain.

West can choose to continue to fund and arm residual Ukraine, but it will not effect Russia. If it achieves it's aims through military means.

The only question is how many Ukrainian's have to be sacrificed for this end to be reached.

Zilinsky will want a few million dead and multiple of those displaced, before surrender or death.

It's quite similar to Germany right before the fall. But Russia is alone in Europe today.

PS: this is dangerously off topic now.
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Pratyush wrote: I am reaching 2 conclusions

1) US Deep State is okay with a Russia PRC alliance. If that compelled the EU to rearm. Something that we are already seeing.

2) that they are foolish beyond belief. In thinking that Russia in the lap of PRC. When PRC has attained the peak of ots power. Can be handled by US and it's alliance system.
Europe re-arming is primarily Germany re-arming. Rest already have reasonable manpower and tech for their (nato) needs. Don't think US deep-state wants EU deep state to be be independent. Unless US's plan is to fight the chinese/russian to the last european. Seems like new tfta munnas are in the pipeline.

Russia in chinese lap is still urban legend. Until, china gives a loan to russia, we can safely say bear has not landed in the panda's lap.
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If Germany rearms, then the relationship between the EU and US will change drastically in the long run. In a way rearming of Germany will result in it Putin achieving the strategic objective of weakening the link between the US and Europe. I seriously doubt that is what the US Deep State wants.

But globalists may wish it. As things stand it the US administrative set-up poses some inherent difficulty to the ruling elite in the form of citizens' rights provided in the US constitution. Such difficulties will not be there as it is easy to change any constitution in Europe. Plus the Europeans are already ruled by an unelected elite from Brussels. So that is already easy and almost done.
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Rudradev wrote:US Deep State are very confident in their ability to mount a successful colour revolution in Russia itself, in the short to medium term. They calculate that Putin has dug his own grave by invading Ukraine. That Russian aam janta will turn against him as the sanctions-related misery and war deaths compound. Then a pliable Yeltsin/Navalny type can be placed in Moscow and Russia will join the US camp against China... this is their endgame.
From an Indian PoV this may not be a bad outcome. The more countries arrayed against China the better for us. But I highly doubt they'd be successful in doing that.
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Pratyush, I think the bigger objective it prevents Eurasia from emerging to challenge the Euro-Atlantic in play since WWII.

As for the Russian or Chinese psyche, it is based on authoritarian rule.
People want a Tsar/Emperor to impose order.
Law and Justice emanate from order.

Can do all the color revolutions but the natural state is Order.
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Actually, it is fruitful to try to game what type of prohibitions the US will impose on India and NRIs in the US.
It is heading that way due to cancel culture in Democrats.
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^^That would be like doing a favor to India. Similar to today's announcements by McDonalds that they are closing their outlets in Russia...seems like a favor than a punishment. If they also closed in the USA, that would be a massive favor to the public.
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May be off topic for this thread...but by far the greatest value export from India to USA is human resources - and ironically, India gets nearly zero returns from the highest value export. It is high time for India to impose outbound controls on this. Drastically reduce the numbers of students, researchers, professionals that are allowed to emigrate to the USA....and put these people to work in India on well-funded Atmanirbhar missions. This will show results.
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See the connections between China and US politicians in Peter Schweizer's book. Many Republicans and Democratic party members are interlinked.

Red-Handed
How American Elites Get Rich Helping China Win
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The US wisely stopped the Mig-29s of Poland to join in the fight, they are afraid of global escalation. Once again the big guys avoid a direct combat. It is always some cat's paw country which is sacrificed in the high level fisticuffs. Looks like another sacrifice of christian euros for the greater good of the Deep State. All the sanctions are going to backfire bigtime. For India it is a good time to evaluate all videshi controls/products/services/links and come up with master plan to scrub the entire lot in the name of Atmanirbhar. We need alternates and independence from the regime of sanctions.
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KL Dubey wrote:May be off topic for this thread...but by far the greatest value export from India to USA is human resources - and ironically, India gets nearly zero returns from the highest value export. It is high time for India to impose outbound controls on this. Drastically reduce the numbers of students, researchers, professionals that are allowed to emigrate to the USA....and put these people to work in India on well-funded Atmanirbhar missions. This will show results.
Nope we should double down it, more Indians in Western countries the better.
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ramana wrote:Pratyush, I think the bigger objective it prevents Eurasia from emerging to challenge the Euro-Atlantic in play since WWII.
If PRC can stop itself and it's pet from getting into a total war with India. Then by default the Asian order will emerge by 2050. Irrespective of what happens on the European continent.

This war in Ukraine will just be a side show in the broader historical context.

Unless this war brings about xenophobia against Eastern Europeans to Western Europe as a result of the millions of Ukrainians as refugees. It is inevitable that Europe will turn into Eurabia.
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Aditya_V wrote: Nope we should double down it, more Indians in Western countries the better.
Not advisable unless we can prevent them from turning into social justice zombies.
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https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-roo ... -february/
At the same time, today’s inflation report is a reminder that Americans‘ budgets are being stretched by price increases and families are starting to feel the impacts of Putin’s price hike. A large contributor to inflation this month was an increase in gas and energy prices as markets reacted to Putin’s aggressive actions. As I have said from the start, there will be costs at home as we impose crippling sanctions in response to Putin’s unprovoked war, but Americans can know this: the costs we are imposing on Putin and his cronies are far more devastating than the costs we are facing.
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